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PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Tinubu Meets Fed Govt Reps On Tripartite Committee by triplechoice(m): 2:44pm On Jun 06, 2024
Mvnster:
You dont get my point, offcourse it would cut accross board but that isnt the point, increasing it much more than 60k would only encourage laziness and worsen inflation, it is counterproductive.
Like i said earlier, those on minimum wage are not supposed to rely on only one source of income.
Every salary earner shouldn't rely on their salary alone,not only those earning minimum wage.

And how does increasing it beyond 60k going to make them lazy?

How you aware that the lowest paid worker in some companies in Nigeria, especially those in the oil and gas, are earning above that? Why are they not lazy?

And you do you know it will also cause inflation? We're already experiencing hyperinflation and you're talking of inflation. Inflation is normal. As long as economic activities are going on in any country ,cost of living will continue to rise . It cannot be stopped but only managed so it doesn't result in hyperinflation.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Tinubu Meets Fed Govt Reps On Tripartite Committee by triplechoice(m): 2:32pm On Jun 06, 2024
77up:
All are still bad , having employment without giving anything to do and refusing to go to work you are been paying for all because you don't do anything.


It's all part of the bad system.
Yes It's all part of the bad system and that's why you shouldn't blame most of the civil servants for not doing anything. Nothing for them to do because the people who employed them don't really care.

Most of the employment into the civil service in Nigeria at the moment is " come join us chop free government money" ,and that's why if you're not connected to those in power, you won't get the job easily.

Only very few are civil servants and those ones were employed when things were not as bad as it's now.

The rest are friends and family members of political office holders given the appointment to receive salaries and do nothing.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 1:58pm On Jun 06, 2024
Babysho:
I know they'll not be paid in cash but it's just an economic expression to make people understand what I mean.
it was in the past when workers were paid in physical cash that such expression was commonly used by economic experts to warn of the consequences of printing more to pay salaries. But not anymore . We are almost operating cashless economy everywhere . What you receive as money these days is reflected as computer figures in your bank account , not physical cash.
Basically, the money in circulation will increase without productivity to match it. Demand will pass supply and that's an inflation.
This is very poor analysis. How do you know productivity will not increase? Are you a business man with some experience?

You have ignored the fact that we're already experiencing hyperinflation due to some of the policies introduced by the current government which has not only drastically reduced the purchasing powers of workers,but as also led to the shutting down of several businesses that can no longer keep up with the ever increasing high cost of production and the inability to sell as they used to.

But once minimum wage is increased reasonable enough,it will help stimulate economic activities once again and favour local businesses, especially manufacturers who will then increase productivity to meet up with the surge in demand as a result of the increase in the purchasing powers of their regular customers .

Increase in productivity means more supply to the markets. And this, coupled with competition from others producing the same kind of goods will result in price reduction in the long run and everyone benefits.

Inflation is normal occurrence everywhere in the world and it's not caused by just one thing. There are other factors involved , not only minimum wage. It's hyperinflation that's not normal. And there's nothing to suggest minimum wage increase will lead to that or further fuel it since the number of workers to benefit from it in Nigeria according to the law is less than 5% or about that of the entire working force in this country which is not enough to result in too much money entering the system.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus And Black Magic! by triplechoice(m): 8:42pm On Jun 05, 2024
AbuTwins:
The Black Sorcerers worshipped baby Jesus!
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Matthew 2:11

The Magi are Sorcerers or Magicians from the east!
They came to worship Jesus!
Again Sorcerers worshipped Jesus and gave him gifts!

Then after Jesus's family called him "out of his mind" the teachers of the law accused him of practicing demonism!

Mark 3:21-22
When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He is out of His mind.” And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”

The key is why sorcerers or magicians (people who were supposed to be killed under Deuteronomic laws) could have worshipped Jesus!
Somebody once said that Jesus Christ is the head of all principalities and powers . If that's true , then it could explain why they came to worship their Grand Master magician who later magically turned water into wine, walked on water, raise people from the dead .
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 7:21pm On Jun 05, 2024
Babysho:
I hate to say it but I think he's right. The initial cause of the inflation was clearly from our leaders but the increment of wages MIGHT also add to the inflation especially if the govt borrows/prints more money to pay.

And I also agree with you that the right way to go is for those in power to cut on wasteful spendings to accommodate the improved salaries.

In fact, a wiser approach would be to introduce maximum wage. And that maximum wage should not be 10X more than the minimum wage. Therefore even at 30k, our leaders take home will be capped at 300k. You'll be surprised how immediately minimum wage will rise to 300k without striking 😁.
I don't understand why someone of you keep mentioning printing of money to pay as if civil servants will be paid in cash.

The physical money in circulation is already enough to go around . Most people have embraced Internet banking for making transactions, and the money transferred reflects in the recipient 's account as computer figures, not raw cash.

And every worker we not withdraw physical cash on the same day salary is paid. Most of my transactions these days are through bank transfer and it's so for many others.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 7:08pm On Jun 05, 2024
Majesty7:
They care less about that. They are only interested in their selfish fight that would still boomerang heavily on them. If you are being paid #100k, I see no reason not to increase my house rent for a room self contain to #1m.

The #100k is just the basic salary. I also have the right to increase my house rent
Then your tenants we vacate your house for
those of . more understanding landlords who won't increase their rents just because minimum wage has been increased for just a few workers in the country.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 7:02pm On Jun 05, 2024
Majesty7:
If the #100k is approved, that is when you will know the real inflation. Everybody will want to take a bite. Even private schools won't be left behind. They will also claimed they have increased their teacher's package. Let's all brace ourselves up.

Labour don't know what to do. Instead of fighting high cost, they are busy fighting rubbish. If government pays then the needed salary, why should the government subsidies fuel price again? Hyperinflation is knocking seriously and the idiot nlc dwarf and tuc thinks they are fighting for living wage? What a senseless humans.

Landlord will increase their rents. Foodstuffs will increase because everyone now knows they are being paid high.

What a useless union
So it means you're more sensible than Tinubu who has now decided to pay above 60k?
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Tinubu Meets Fed Govt Reps On Tripartite Committee by triplechoice(m): 4:27pm On Jun 05, 2024
Mvnster:
This is why nigeria is backward, minumum wage is for unskilled labour, i.e cleaners, gatemen, messengers, you should ask yourself why should someone want to limit himself/herself to just being a cleaner/gateman and want a decent life on that alone?
Those are supposed to be part-time and temporary jobs, but...what do you think would happen to the economy when gatemen begin to earn high as 200k monthly up suddenly from 30k and maybe professors would be paid 15million monthly.
You don't understand it. Minimum wage benefits all category of workers . Once a new minimum wage is signed into law, it will lead to a consequential adjustment in the salaries of those at the top .
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Tinubu Meets Fed Govt Reps On Tripartite Committee by triplechoice(m): 4:15pm On Jun 05, 2024
77up:
Honestly, something has to be done on this because staff like that are every government organization. I wish staff like that can be fish out and get in people that are ready to work.

I also know people that normally goes to work twice or trice in a week. They resume to their business instead of where they are collecting salary.
It's not their fault as you think. The people who employ them haven't given them any job to do.
When you replace them you will get to know there's nothing to do. Just sit down and wait till 4 pm and go home and resume the next day. After some time boredom will set in and you don't like going everyday especially when you know that nobody will query you.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 2:47pm On Jun 05, 2024
casualobserver:
The point I was trying to make and I hope I succeeded is that the Nigerian worker is poorly paid because he is inherently unproductive. That is the root cause of his poor wages. If you like use 10 workers to produce a barrel of oil, if you like use 2. The price of oil is the same in the market. Common sense dictates that the country where it takes 10 cannot earn as the country or company where it takes 5. In both cases the rice seller does not give discounts.
But there are some of them who are highly productive but unfortunately find themselves stuck somewhere receiving very low wages and can't resign due to lack of Jobs elsewhere.

One thing I failed to mention in my previous reply is that civil servants are looking at government revenue to demand for pay increase. Truth be told, the civil servants aren't different from our political office others whose only concern is to share from the national cake. So you can't blame them for lack of productivity. Civil servants are like the wives of government. They have insider information concerning what Nigeria is actually earning that's for the most part kept from the public.

And because they know, is why they are asking for what they're currently demanding for. But most don't understand.

So maybe we should have 2 minimum wage law. One for civil servants who you say aren't productive and another one for those in the private sector where productivity should determine what you're paid,if not, the same scenario will play out in another 5 years time.
PoliticsRe: Abia, Lagos, 28 Other States Spend Over N₦968 Billion On Refreshments, Travels by triplechoice(m): 2:31pm On Jun 05, 2024
helinues:
Just imagine

Yet some of the listed states are still paying N18k as minimum wage oo
I hope you know understand that corruption and wickedness is the reason some have refused to pay minimum wage and not because they don't have the capacity to pay
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 2:18pm On Jun 05, 2024
casualobserver:
Like I said it is a chicken and egg situation. It is robbing from Peter to pay Paul.

Let me give you an example to illustrate: You have a farm of 1 acre with 10 workers. Your competitor farms the same 1 acre with 3 workers. The yield and therefore the income from 1 acre is the same. The farmers in farm1 are naturally poorly paid because there are 10 of them doing the job of 3 people in farm 2 for the same output, let us assume 1 acre of land can only produce a fixed amount of maize. Don’t forget the price of the maize for both farms is the same in the market….. a customer is not going to pay the farmer a higher price because he has 10 workers, if anything the price of the products in farm 2 will be cheaper because his costs are lower but for the sake of this example let us assume they both get the same price.


Remember I mentioned GDP earlier? The Output per worker (productivity) in farm 1 is lower than farm 2. If the both sell maize for N100,000, Farm 1 with 10 workers has an output per capita or productivity of N10,000 per worker whereas in farm 2 it is N33,000 per worker.

Therefore it makes sense that a worker in farm 2 is paid N20,000 for his work totaling N60,000 in salaries, let’s say materials cost N30,000 leaving a profit of N10,000 for the farmer. He is happy to earn just 10,00 from that farm because he knows his workers are efficient and do all the work. In contrast farm 2 has the same materials and input costs of N30,000, all he has left to pay the 10 workers is N70,000. Assuming he doesn’t even make a profit, the worker in farm 1 cannot earn more than N7,000. Now the farmer must make a profit otherwise he will shut down the farm. So he takes a lower profit of N5,000, meaning all that is available to pay his workers is N65,000, meaning the income of the farm 1 worker based on his productivity is N6,500. Imagine farm 1 workers saying they want a salary increase to N10,000, what will happen if he agrees? The farm will close down because the output or GDP of the farm cannot sustain that level of income due to their low productivity. It will mean they have costs of N130,000, income of N100,000 and loss for the farmer!!!

That is why I keep emphasizing the importance of our GDP per capita of N150,000, I.e the average output of all Nigerian workers from the lowest to the highest…it cannot sustain a minimum wage above N70k without a drastic increase in productivity. Increasing purchasing power without increasing productivity is just kicking the can down the road. If you increase the purchasing power of the 10 workers in farm 1 and they are still only producing 100,000 worth of maize you are just going to induce inflation because their output is still the same and the prices of the things they buy will go up because those workers have more money but you the farmer will incur debt or go bankrupt and so in the end you will be forced to close down the farm. More money in the hands of workers and same level of goods (output) = inflation.


The solution is either 1) to reduce the number of workers for the same output if that is the only farm you have 2) leave salaries as they are for the same output or 3) find another acre of land and move 5 workers to the new farm in which case you can double their wages because their productivity has doubled.

Bottom line Nigeria has a worker productivity problem not a purchasing power problem. The poor purchasing power is a result of low productivity. Increasing purchasing power for the same level of productivity is a recipe for inflation. But most importantly, just as the farmer cannot increase salaries beyond the income of his farm, you cannot increase salaries in a country beyond the output of your country. Again this is why I keep emphasizing the importance of our GDP per capita, it is the value of the output of the average Nigerian. You can’t give what you don’t have!!!

If 3 workers can produce N100,000 in farm output at another farm, you solve the salary problem of the 10 workers by sacking 5 and creating another farm for the sacked 5. The output increases to N200,000 and you can pay all better wages. The problem is the same workers in farm 1 who want salary increase will down tools at the farm if you suggest it.
Very good what you explained, but you should know that in Nigeria most business owners are not knowledgeable enough to know the exact number of workers to employ. They don't like consulting experts because they see it as a waste of money. And so, because of that the person that needs only 3 to maximize profits may employ more than that and end up not gaining much from his farm without understanding why . While the one that needs more than 3 ,may just employ 4 and also end losing in the long run.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Talks: Labour Considers N100,000 As Tinubu Issues Ultimatum by triplechoice(m): 1:39pm On Jun 05, 2024
Coolestguy2023:
No wahala, let us see if every state will be able to pay including the private sector and domestic workers.
There are down sides to this which many ignorant people don't know.
1. Most private companies or even government will downsize which would lead to massive loss of jobs.
2. Those that don't downsize will increase the cost of there products and services rendered.

Last last, inflation will skyrocket and that 100k will just be like 30k in the hand.
.1 No. They won't downsize after minimum wage increase .It doesn't make sense for them to do so.,and this is why.

They will need to step up productivity in order meet up with the increase in demand of their products as result of the increase in the purchasing powers of their regular customers who will now buy more from them. Increase in productivity can only occur if they have enough workers to do so. An increase productivity will lead to increase in supply and we all know that as supply continues as increases prices will drop in the long run.

2. They'll step up production to gain from the increase in the purchasing powers of workers. If they downsize, then they'll not be able to increase productivity and sell more and make more profits.

I can assure you that most business owners in this country whose businesses are on the verge collapsing due to low patronage are eagerly anticipating the increase minimum wage so they can have their regular customers back again. There will be some increase but not enough to make your negative prophecy see the light of day.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 10:39am On Jun 05, 2024
DeOTR:
So how's this minimum wage increase supposed to force those organizations to pay?
You should ask yourself if they've complied with the current wage before thinking of the new one. Is the labour union even concerned about enforcing the minimum for private organizations to start with?
You probably don't know what you're talking about.
People with conscience who also want to hire and retain the best hands will pay.

And I believe you're aware that some private sector employers have already increased the salary of their workers during this period without waiting for government to ask them to. Those ones understand what their workers are going through and have done what is right, but others haven't. See what I mean?

My focus on the minimum wage act is not about the issue of payment but the reason for having the law in the first place which is to protect workers from exploitative employees. Nigerian business owners are very notorious for underpaying their workers.

Yes, if you feel exploited you can resign the job, but how many people know what they are
worth,? Only a few, and business owners are aware of this fact ,hence the exploitation.

Let's discuss the benefits of minimum wage or disadvantage of it before any thing eise.

So tell me why are you against the government fixing minimum wage?

Modified. The responsibility for enforcing minimum wage lies with the government and not labour. Labour are not policemen that enforces the laws of the land.

Employees in the private sector should be aware of what the law says concerning minimum wage and report any one paying shortchanging them.

However, not everyone in the private sector in Nigeria is paid minimum wage. There are not of exemptions there.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 9:47pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
Like I said, anyone who thinks he is worth more than he is being paid is free to resign and rest his value in the market, there is no fight there.

Many of you will realize how overrated you are. If you were worth more than you currently earn, you would be earning it already. You are where you are because that is what you are worth. If you don’t like that reality check seek to improve your value in the market place.

Good. Night!
And where did I say you shouldn't resign ? You blind bat that hardly reads what he has been replying to.

If you have no experience of ever employing anyone, then please shut. You're only making sense to your selfish self. That's all.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 8:45pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
You need to understand English. Average is not minimum.

Look my friend, the bottom line is this: if anyone feels he is worth more than he is being paid he should resign and test his worth with other employers. This is not slave Labour or forced Labour. If you feel you are worth more than you are being paid please please please feel free to leave your “exploitative” employer.

Is it by force you work for someone who is paying you less than you feel you are worth?

Abi kilode? Them force you?
If you don't own a business where you employ people to work for you, then shut up because you have no experience to discuss this with me.

Besides I haven't announced that I work under anyone. So keep your unsolicited advice to your selfish and self centered self or maybe your siblings,and stop the very wayward assumptions about my person .

Modified. Are you sure you're alright? Who's confused about average. You said you schooled in the UK, yet you struggle to express yourself very well in English language. And who's saying you can't leave if you feel exploited where' you work?
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 7:35pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
The figures do not lie and the evidence says otherwise. The GDP per capita of the average Nigerian worker is N150k a month. An avearahe worker is a graduate with a few years experience according to civil service salary scale. It means that a minimum wage worker likely only contribute economic Labour or work to the value of the 30k he earns.

Argue with yourself but the figures do not lie. That’s the beauty of stats and measuring things, it removes the emotions and brings the realities home.
The above has not nothing to do with my previous reply. You're talking to yourself and no longer coherent. The evidence is there in your reply.

Read it again.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 7:13pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
The bold sums it up

Agree on all counts.

When I first got to england despite being a graduate, I had 2 full time minimum wage jobs as a security guard and at macdonalds. After finishing 12 hours of standing, I will go and do macdonalds where there is not a second of rest. I did what I had to do to improve myself. In Nigeria, you are a minimum wage worker you earn 30k or less and you have time to go to church for overnight vigil and revival?

We are not serious
Not everyone who earns 30k in Nigeria will not improve himself. You're generalising and it's very stupid to do so.

So many in Nigeria have moved from that position by attending part time school.

You far from reality and don't know what's happening around you.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 7:05pm On Jun 04, 2024
DeOTR:
Ask most of them if they can pay their cleaners at least 150k as they want the minimum wage to be, it'll be another story.
I've learned one thing in life: the best way to get a pay raise is to change your job. No profit oriented organization will wake up one morning and decide to double your salary.
You're as ignorant as the person you replied.

We have employers of labour who use their workers to make excessive profits and still pay them less. Is that not true?

For instance, there are teachers in private schools in Nigeria teaching more than two or three subjects, which is not supposed to be,yet they're are paid peanuts despite the large students population and exorbitant school fees that they charge.

Yes, that's happening with nobody to check them.

Both of you are quick to judge others because you're very shallow in your thinking..
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 6:50pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
I didn’t read all you wrote but let me tell you a basic principle in emplotlyer employee relations. If you feel your employer is exploiting you, you are free to quit and find another job. It is not slavery, it is not forced Labour. You likely can only get what you get because that is what your productivity and skill set (or lack there of) is worth in the open market.


Like I said you are free to quit. You have a sense of entitlement. Nobody owes you a job or 3 square meals, you earn it by the value of your work. If 30k is all anyone is prepared to pay you, then get a second job. Or go and work for your father’s company where you can be idle all day and get a salary that is comfortable.

I have repeated this many times: the reason why most employers are only willing to pay minimum wage workers so little is 1) they are unproductive…you need 3,4,5 to do the job of 1 person so the salary that should go to 1 person is shared amongst them. As a Nigerian business you are competing with imports from other countries with productive workers not workers who spend their day singing and playing praise songs. In the end the customer does not care whether The employer paid you and the 3 other unproductive workers he has to employ N100k each for every 1 worker his competitor abroad does. He is only interested in the price of the product.
You reply me without reading because you want to live in denial of the truth.

I haven't announced to you that I work under anyone so why calling me entitled ?

And it's not a matter of being entitled,but the consciousness to know that your employee is an extension of yourself and so deserve better. You sound like a very selfish and self centered individual who cares only about himself.
I'm different.

In the business I do,I can't bring myself to employ anyone if I know what I will offer won't be enough for him to take care of himself.

That's how I operate and I know so many others who do. Everyone is not the same . You can do what you like an employ just anyone to work for you, that's if you even have a business that you operate..
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 5:36pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
It is not exploitation if the law does not mandate that they comply with the minimum wage. The vast majority of workers in Nigeria (over 90%) do not fall under the law and it has been So they will continue to be paid way below the minimum wage. They won’t benefit from it but their cost of living will rise due to the inflationary effects of the minimum wage. That is my point.
No . It's exploitation when you pay someone a salary that's below what they deserve simply because the law has given you the freedom to do so. Why can't an employer be considerate and do it the right instead of hiding behind the law?

You should understand that the average business owner is unwilling to pay reasonable wages unless he is forced to by the laws of land where' he operates.

If you can't afford driver ,then don't employ one and pay him peanuts. Drive yourself until you can afford to. The driver is a human being like you that needs to feed very well in order to give you his best services.

Minimum wage is not the only thing responsible for the ever rising cost of living everywhere . Why you choose to focus on minimum wage alone, and ignore the other factors is what I still don't understand.There are countries without a minimum wage yet they experience inflation from time to time.
Read about the Effect of the 100% Udoji award of the 1970s. Govt workers got 100% salary increase, In anticipation prices started rising in the end there wasn’t much benefit for the rest of the country only perhaps govt workers. On the contrary prices went up for everyone else.
It's very wrong to use something that happened in the past when the circumstances were completely different to interpret the present or make forecast about the future. You won't get it right.

The 70s was a period when most Nigerians were working as civil servants and so you can understand why the impact of the award was wildly felt, leading to traders raising their prices arbitrarily .

But times have changed. Only a few are civil servants, and so, each time there's an upward review of minimum wage in this country,it's only marginal increase in the prices of goods and services that usually result , which is not enough to cause hyperinflation.
PoliticsRe: Dear NLC Trends As Nigerians Compare Salary Of Workers & Senators & Rep Members by triplechoice(m): 3:44pm On Jun 04, 2024
erniok2:
Check out this https://www.nairaland.com/8113175/minimum-wage-lets-reasonable-tonyebarcanista
It even made FP.
A new minimum wage is yet to be signed into law. What's contained in the link you shared is the personal opinion of the writer.

Inflation is normal and it's not only caused by minimum wage increase. There are other factors involved which the Op deliberately ignored
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage: Organised Labour Suspends Strike For 5 Days by triplechoice(m): 3:32pm On Jun 04, 2024
casualobserver:
The irony is that many people supporting Labour do t realize whatever minimum wage is agreed will not trickle down to them and will cause inflation.

To start with (see section 4 below) minimum wage law exempts employers with less than 25 staff, agric workers, contract workers, part time workers and daily rate workers. It applies only to government and organized private sector workers with 25+ staff strength. So all this wahala for majority of Nigerians nothing will change.



Long and short most people backing Labour will not see any benefits and will reap the negative consequences..inflation and job losses. Labour will tell you they are fighting for you they are not. In a nation of over 200m people only 1m are federal government workers and the majority of those are not on mimimim wage.

If you don’t work for the federal govt and you are earning 30k, when all is said and done, after all this noise and wahala, you will look at your alert and it is still 30k…because all this was not for your benefit . Your employer would not be breaking the law because minimum wage does not apply to him. If you complain too much you will be sacked. By definition if you are on minimum wage you are easily replaced, your skills if any is not scarce! The real issue like I have said many times is the lack of productivity of the Nigerian worker



The salary of a Zamfara teacher who was earning N8000 is not suddenly going to go up to N60k+ . Where was Ajaero when it was N30k, they were paying 8k since 2019?


Finally I should add, minimum wage anywhere in the world is not meant to take you home. Yes they say so but in practice it never does. You are not supposed to be comfortable on minimum wage or else you have no motivation to improve yourself and that is bad for any economy .
.A lot of states, about 31, have been paying correctly the old minimum wage of 30k and even above it. You ignored those ones for zamfara state where the governor is violating the law due to wickedness and not because he can't pay in order to push forward your false narrative that most states can't pay if it's increased. Lagos, Edo and some few others are now paying above 60k to their workers. Why are you blind to those.

Modified. Yes, minimum wage won't take you home but at least it will help prevent exploitation of workers by employers who will like to pay below that .
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Negotiations Will Be Tough - Atedo Peterside by triplechoice(m): 11:06pm On Jun 03, 2024
DMerciful:
More than 30%
How did you arrive at that figure?

Those in the public sector where there's 100% compliance are not up to 5% . So how can the private sector where there so many exemptions for employers be more than 30%.

If you haven't read the minimum wage act as it applies to the private sector, Google it and read and come back to tell me how it can be what you say it's.
PoliticsRe: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by triplechoice(m): 10:55pm On Jun 03, 2024
bixton:
Definitely the government will have to downsize but they also do not need to do such thing. They only need to deploy the civil servants to where the work to do it and not keep them muddled together in a place where no work is and many can be re-assigned to other ministries/parastals/agencies/commissions that generate revenue and grow it. There's so much the/any government can(should) do to grow the economy and grow the knowledge base of the country of civil servant.
Very good suggestions. Some governors have been doing that, but others don't care.
PoliticsRe: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by triplechoice(m): 10:52pm On Jun 03, 2024
CharleyBright:
Can you hear yourself?
You are bold enough to say minimum wage is not for food sellers or pepper sellers or people on the street, it is for civil servants., abi?
Very selfish opinion. And thats how most of you civil servant reason.
When govt removed subsidy, it affected civil servant only abi? The hard economy is biting ou civil servants alone abi?
When we talk about minimum wage, is it not called National Minimum wage? When u talk about National, is it only Civil Servants ??
I hate this mentality and angle of your argument.
If govt give una 70k, make una no accept, the govt should arrest all of your selfish and greedy bunch.
Nonsense!!!
It's not my opinion please. It's what's stated in the minimum wage act I just communicated to you. Direct your anger to those who came up with the unjust law. I never mentioned that I like it that way or announced to you I'm a civil servants. Just free me

Google the minimum wage act of March 2019 signed by Buhari for confirmation of those who are qualified to receive minimum wage in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Organised Labour To NASS: We’re Fighting For Living Wage, Not Starvation Wages by triplechoice(m): 10:42pm On Jun 03, 2024
armo:
Ah well, if there is the political will, there is a way, perhaps the civil service laws should be updated to allow it be more agile and let it run like the private sector. As to the cost, it will be expensive but we are already incurring that expense on a yearly basis with not much to show for it.
About from the cost, there are other reasons they won't sack them.

Most of the civil servants you want sacked got the job,not necessarily by merit, but through political connections. They know someone who knows someone that knows the governor, or are card carrying member of the party in power and because of that employed.

Moreover a lot of them are giving the government job so they can be instructed to vote for the government in power during elections:. We gave you the job. So, you must vote for us.

The real civil servants are very few and most where employed when things were not as bad as they're now.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Negotiations Will Be Tough - Atedo Peterside by triplechoice(m): 10:28pm On Jun 03, 2024
DMerciful:
It affects even the private companies
But less than 1%
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Negotiations Will Be Tough - Atedo Peterside by triplechoice(m): 10:23pm On Jun 03, 2024
jamafa:
How many private companies can pay 100k as minimum wages??
Those in the private sector enjoy exemption. Only few of them are mandated by the law to pay it and that's why most of them are not too worried.They know the law.

Besides, some are even paying more than the minimum wage. For instance, those in the oil and gas who have already increased their workers salaries in keeping with the current economic climate.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Negotiations Will Be Tough - Atedo Peterside by triplechoice(m): 10:16pm On Jun 03, 2024
Aurelius1:
What about sales boys/girls, fuel attendants , hotel workers etc? Would the increment afect them?
It will benefit them if they work in a place with 25 staff or more.
PoliticsRe: Minimum Wage Negotiations Will Be Tough - Atedo Peterside by triplechoice(m): 10:13pm On Jun 03, 2024
slim75d:
My only problem with this minimum wage issue is that it only favours civil servants. Those of us in the private sector, and those who have no sector are suffering the hardship brought by the strike. Ones labour get what they want they'll move on.
It's never to late to ask for what you want if you really want to benefit. Make your voice heard by demanding for an amendment to the minimum wage act to Include more workers in the private sector.

The people who came up with the minimum wage act in this country cheated those in the private sector by exempting employers with less than 25 staff from paying minimum wage.

Before it was 50 workers, but when Buhari signed a new minimum wage in 2019, it was amended and reduced to 25.
PoliticsRe: Resolve Minimum Wage Saga Like You Did To National Anthem - Falana Tells NASS by triplechoice(m): 10:04pm On Jun 03, 2024
Buhari did better by signing a new minimum wage in March 2019 before it expired. Jonathan did the same. But Tinubu is busy singing the new national anthem somewhere.

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