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Oracleee:Enough of this hyperinflation talk. Zimbabwe's was because of sanction from Western nations and not minimum wage. Don't misinform the public about what you don't know. Focus on Nigeria and provide evidences to support your claim. This is going to be the third time for miimum wage increase in Nigeria after the minimum wage act was signed into law . Why was there no hyperinflation when Buhari signed 30k? It seems most of you assume that once minimum wage is reviewed upwards then every single Nigeria, (employed and unemployed), will automatically have much money in their pocket to cause hyperinflation. The number of civil servants in each state in Nigeria is not up to 5% of the population. So , please stop hallucinating about something you don't understand and face the reality that wages must be increased to meet up with current realities in the country . There's a minimum wage act which mandates it must be increased every 4 years so workers go home with a living wage. The resistance of you and your likes cannot stop it. You don't know more than the government who wants to increase it. If it would cause hyperinflation, they should know since they have economic experts to advise them. You and your likes don't have what it takes to advise the government on what to do. Your textbook economics knowledge is not enough. Even the world bank and IMF have not gone against it because they know it's needed at this time. |
helinues:If you say the proposal by labour is unrealistic, then tell us how a family of 2 can survive on 48k in a month in the present day Nigerian ? |
MEEVEET:A miimum of 50 workers and above is what's required for those in the private sector to pay minimum wage.Thats what the minimum wage act says.. So it's not for everyone. In addition, the 500 k is just a proposal by labour to get a better deal from government . They're not insisting on that and that's why they're negotiating. |
PARADIZEPRIEST:And you think 48k being offered by the federal government is very sane? Please try to understand that labour is not insisting on 600k. It's just a strategy to get a better deal from the government. During the last minimum wage negotiations, labour proposed 150 to 200 k, but at the end of the day, Buhari sighed 30k and it' was accepted. 48k is slave salary and Nigerian workers are not slaves. Anyone supporting the government on this is very self centered and selfish. |
Kobojunkie:1. You haven't been able to explain how they're not metaphors. In fact your explanations has confirmed they're metaphors. Everything single statements the op quoted is metaphor 2. Yes I'm for real. It's you who have a problem of not knowing what a metaphor is. Jesus made the comparison to drive home a point. He never asked his listeners to take him as literal bread to be eaten with sardine or whatever. |
author=Kobojunkie post=129968050]Ok .... ![]() Jesus Christ broke literal bread and said, “Take this bread and eat it. It is my body.” He equally poured out literal wine and said, "This wine is my blood, which will be poured out to forgive the sins of many and begin the new agreement from God to his people." The same Jesus Christ is recorded to have said that those who eat His body(bread) and drink His blood(wine) will receive His Eternal Life — the life of a man is in His blood. Hence, the bread of Life is essentially the literal bread you eat that Jesus Christ is His body. :- :- : Does this ring as some metaphorical speak to you?The answer to the bolded, is a resounding yes, He was using figurative language all through. |
Kobojunkie:The Op ,from what I read, only highlighted the "I am" statements that are metaphors. He never said all of them is metaphor. You're the one insisting all of them are literal statements when it's obvious they're not. To the " I am the bread of Life," statement, examine what Jesus Christ is recorded to have said in the passages below.. What's described in the above clearly shows Jesus was making a comparison between himself and something not human,( bread), to drive home a point So it was clear he was expressing himself figuratively and not literally as you think. Or you don't know what a metaphor is? A metaphor is a direct comparison between two unlike objects in order to bring out the similarities which exist between them. In the bread metaphor, Jesus was making a comparison between himself a common food which most people can't do without. I hope by this, you can now see the point of the comparison . |
Kobojunkie:If you say the following statements are not metaphoric ; " I'm the light of the world" I'm the bread of life and I'm the resurrection and the life", Please can you explain how Jesus is literally a baked bread? |
CaptainJune:You don't have anything to teach, but lies and twisting the scripture . If you don't know the difference between NDE and OBE, what can you teach anyone? Nothing. There are no instances of anyone in the Christian Bible visiting heaven and hell and coming back to warn others of it. You and your friends are using lies and deception to promote Christianity. That's evil. You better repent before you're sent to that same hell you're discussing here. NDE transcends Christianity ..It doesn't validates it. |
CaptainJune:What's the truth you're blabbing about? So the good news you're asked to preach as a Christian is NDE and OBE? The message of Christianity is the one of love and not that of fear you and your friends are spreading here . I know, because I was once a Christian. You don't need to lie and use fear to draw people to Christianity. It's not needed.. And please, apostle Paul didn't not have a NDE experience. Having a close shave with death without the "subjective" experiences associated NDE is not the same thing. Paul never reported any NDE experiences What he narrated in 2, Corinthians 12, was the vision he said God revealed to him about a man who found himself in the third heaven. And according to him, he wasn't sure if the man went there in his body or not. He wasn't certain. But in your desperation, you have interpreted it to mean what you want it to mean. You're lying. A Christian should not lie to promote Christianity. If Paul had expressed certainty about how the man got there,then it would mean OBE and not NDE. The Op is discussing NDE and not OBE. And it's because you don't know the difference, you brought in what is not relevant to the topic to cause confusion. Stick to the Op please and provide instances of anyone in the Bible that had an NDE. Who were those people in the Bible that went to heaven and hell and came back to warn others of what awaits them if they don't repent? That's what you should answer for me if you want to. |
CaptainJune:This is gibberish . What you're saying please. Define and explain what NDE or OBE is in your own words before bringing Google as support. That's how to do it. If you can't do that then you don't know. It's as simple as that. |
CaptainJune:I asked you because I see you don't know it at all. You don't know the difference between NDE and OBE. Asking me to Google is deflection . |
CaptainJune:What's false NDE? Before the coming of Christianity to Africa our people were having NDE. It's nothing new and nothing to do with the gospel or the scripture.. Its a natural phenomenon anyone can experience. You can't say that NDEs which contradicts the Bible is fake. You're saying so because you're a Christian. If you were practicing Hinduism, you would have accepted the ones which agrees with its scripture, and rejected as fake the ones which contradicts it.Yes, that's the same thing you would have said. The Bible doesn't contain any NDE experiences which matches the ones currently being reported everywhere or the ones in the op. So how did you then determine what's fake or genuine. In fact, no one in the Bible reported an NDE where they went through a tunnel of light, meeting and embracing a light, and then visiting heaven or hell and coming back to report it to warn people of what awaits them after death if they don't repent.Nothing like that in the Bible. So ,it's a lie to say that St Paul and John had an NDE . They never had it. You think they had it because you don't know what an NDE is . It's not just having a close shave with death alone. It's much more than death. In addition,seeing visions of what has happened in the past or what will happen in the future (John in the island of Patmos) while still in the body is not NDE. And FYI, NDE is a kind of OBE. Using the two terms to mean the same thing exposes your ignorance of not knowing the difference.. |
CaptainJune:What's a near death experience,NDE? What's also an out of body experience,OBE? |
Courz:Bitter? Hehehe. We are interacting. Not so? You created a thread like others here about something you think you know and I responded to it with what I know. where's the bitterness in that? So, it means when you jump into threads created by others to discuss and disagree with what you find there you are doing so because you're very bitter? Well, I won't be surprised that's what you do and think everyone is like you. I'm not you.so don't project yourself. If anyone is bitter between the two of us right now,it's you who simply can't tolerate contrary viewpoints and want me to leave the thread. Modified. Talking of personal research, you're free to do that, but just know that what you arrived at shouldn't be announced to the world as truth, especially when others know it better than you. I don't claim to know it all,but from what you have said so far, you don't know it all. You're just looking for what supports your beliefs. And what you have found so far is unfortunately being misinterpreted by you. Every religion can use NDE to validate their beliefs. You're not the only one capable of doing that. |
Courz:I haven't said anything about me believing or not believing NDE. I said it's not Christian belief. If you believe in it as a Christian, then you're not one. That's what I said. I'm sure you never took the time to read what I already explained about NDE ,if not you wont be making this comment as well as the other the ones before now. |
Courz:But you were responding at the beginning. Next time ignore those whom you don't want to engage. Now that you said this, I be will watching out for when anyone ask you to ignore them and you don't. You're always on the neck of JWs, I'm not one of them, but the same you is not happy to experience the same thing You're joking. Take this to your personal blog if you don't know how to handle dissenting views to what you want to believe |
Courz:No. You don't know what's a genuine NDE. You're trying to misinform the public about what you don't know. That's all. NDE is not Christian doctrine. It's not in the Bible and so you can't claim you're a Christian and still preach it. I know, because I was once a Christian like you. The Bible teaches after death then judgement. Nothing like coming back to warn people. There's no one in the Bible that came back to warn anyone of heaven or hell after visiting it or meeting with Jesus. You're not preaching Christianity but your own doctrine to drive fear into the minds of the gullible. |
Courz:This is Nairaland ,a public forum,and not your personal blog and so you can't tell anyone what to respond to. As long as they don't insult you or derail the thread, you can't bar anyone. And besides you're not the only one reading my comments. It's not for you alone. Others are also reading yours too. However, good day and stop commenting on the thread of others if you don't want people to respond to yours. |
[quote author=Courz post=129827307]It is not every NDE experience that you listen to especially if they are not in line with the Bible. You need the Spirit of discernment which is only through the Holy Spirit and you must ask for it. You sound like you're not a Christian. The NDE community has been penetrated by New age believers and others to discredit the genuine ones. There was one I saw where the Narrator was saying that she saw someone who wasn't Born again in Heaven. Now as a Christian, you're supposed to know immediately that this is a Lie because Jesus made It very clear that you must be Born again to see the Kingdom of God. Satan knows that Near Death Experiences bring people closer to Almighty God and Jesus and make them change for good. So, he has sent people to distort the community and make people have disbelief in the genuine ones. Remember Satan Copies Jesus and God and creates counterfeits. I have seen an NDE where the narrator just starts talking about ascending and consciousness. Immediately I knew that's New Age belief and not Biblical. This thread is for Christians. If you're not one, kindly ignore the thread. There are NDE of those who were Atheists, New Agers, Muslims, Satanists and other religions that made them give Their life to Christ. I will only post genuine ones that align with the Bible. Any NDE that doesn't glorify God and Jesus or speak about them, I will not post.If you focus only on information which supports what you want to believe and hear and ignore the ones which don't,then it only means one thing you don't want to know the truth or not willing to. And no one can force you to know the truth. |
Courz:The Lazarus story is not what you think. It was used to illustrate something. It never happened. It was a parable and parables are not to be interpreted literally. Those who practice Judaism know better than you Christians who don't understand the story. Modified. Please answer this questions? Why are people during NDE meeting with artists impression of Jesus as a white man? Are there pictures of Jesus in the Bible to confirm if people are meeting with the real Jesus during NDE? |
Courz:In Africa, our people have been having NDE experiences before the coming of Christianity . And what they experienced then, and even now, were different from the ones talking about heaven and hell . Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying people don't have those experiences in your op. But it's caused by something you're not aware of yet .They aren't meeting any real Jesus or going to a real "heaven or hell". The so called Jesus represents "something" entirely unknown ( you can called it a being or the Divine if you like) making its appearance know to the experiencer using an image which they're familiar and comfortable with so the experience doesn't shock them. When adherents of other religion have an NDE, they also get to meet with highly respected religious personages associated with their own religion. For instance those who follow ATR get to meet their ancestors, not Jesus ,and visit a place where they're asked to return back as it's not yet time for them to leave the earth. And they return. What of atheist or those without a religion who claim to have met Jesus?Those ones are drawn into experiencing during NDE what people around them strongly belief in or what they have believed before. If it's Christianity , then they met Jesus, but not a real one , if Hinduism,then Krishna or any other being associated with that religion. So in all, the experience of consciousness leaving the body during NDE is real, but most of the things people experienced during that period are both real/illusion at the same time. It's so because, the brain at this time is no longer functioning as normal to modulate the experience . So one experience both the real and unreal outside the body. Scientists are still trying to understand the experience , but unfortunately they're very very far from that. So the public who depend completely on them for truth about the human being will have to wait maybe endlessly to know the truth. But ,believe me ,NDE has nothing to do with your religion, Christianity. It doesn't validate it as you think. |
Courz:But the Bible didn't teach NDE experience. Moreover, how come the description of Jesus seen by these people matches the ones depicted in movies and artworks? There's no picture of Jesus in the Bible. Nobody knows exactly how he looks like. So, I think if anyone were to see a Jesus in NDE ,it shouldn't be the ones portrayed in movies as white man. Yes Something is wrong. Don't you think? |
Courz:Then why are you ignoring the ones which doesn't support your heaven and hell narrative? Like this one below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DKsqTs9M8?si=LLGWJFLDe62Ua5pF |
Courz:Be aware that we also have reports of those who had NDE ,but with experiences that has nothing that with hell . Don't tell me you haven't seen those ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6DKsqTs9M8?si=LLGWJFLDe62Ua5pF |
FRANCISTOWN:. Then why were you mocking yourself on the meaning of the word ,"anyone" ? This is the question you have refused to answer because it will expose you for who you're. . Or you don't know the difference between anyone or anything In my original comment before you edited it and ran mad insulting yourself. You want to lie it was an ommision on your part. Why "omit" it? The trail ( the dictionary definition) you left behind is the evidence you edited my comment deliberately , if not, it's not supposed to be there at all. . As for , Hawking's or Dawkins, not spelling someone"s name correctly is not something any intelligent adult should make an issue of, . I haven't committed any grammatical blunder .It's just spelling mistake or not being sure of the correct spelling., it's a typo . I'm sure you don't know what a typo is. Budda noticed it and corrected me graciously without making an issue out of it because really, there's nothing to it. But because you're very pained ,petty minded and pendantic you choose to focus on that to escape your inability to provide evidence for your very outlandish claim about babies,and also to cover for your shameful display here. You who don't know the difference between anyone and anything. You thought they were the same hence you brought a definition for "anyone" I'm finally done with you. You can continue talking to yourself. . Explain why you were mocking yourself for not knowing the meaning of the word, ", anyone" or shut up and own up to your deception you mannerless kid without home training. Someone on this same thread said so about you .So you're well known crazy head on Nairaland. I blame myself for quoting you in the first place. It won't happen again except you change your behaviour. |
FRANCISTOWN:. I have shown the bolded already. Just go back and read it. The summary is that not everyone who is a non - theist is an atheist. So your claim is baby talk. Concerning Dawkimgs, I'm not you. If I said so,I own up to the error. Budda already spelt the name correctly ,Dawinkings. I thank him for that. I'm not of fan of Dawkimgs. He was a very toxic person and fanatical atheist why alive . But this doesn't take away from his achievements in the sciences. It doesn't matter whether he was the first that said so or not. What matters is thar he promoted the falsehood like you're doing here You just brought this talk to deflect as you usually do. Face the business of proving the lie you have been brainwashed with . You have no evidence other than empty talk , insults and foolery. |
FRANCISTOWN:No. It wasn't an ommision. If it was, you would have said so immediately I pointed it out to you. You doing all of these to cover for your shame. You did that deliberately and posted a screenshot of the meaning of "anyone". to mock yourself, not me, that I don't know the meaning. So , why denying it.? Did you not post a screenshot defining " anyone"or you have memory problems. Go back to your comments and see it there. It seems your head is not there at all .You posted something yourself and now denying it. If you can't explain the reason for your insults in the image below,then you're stupid and of a very low IQ. There's nothing I said to show I don't know the meaning of the word, anyone, but you decided to display your insanity. You edited my comment to read only "anyone" initially. But here was when you replaced it. Anyone or anything are not the same indefinite pronouns Go get cured .
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FRANCISTOWN:. You admitted here, the "anything" was an error. So why editing it from my reply to insult and mock yourself with the screenshot defining "anyone" ? Was the word ,"anyone" the only thing I mentioned? I said you said "anyone or anything.Be sincere without yourself. But you can't . You're not as smart as you think . I already have a screenshot of our conversation. If you like go and remove the dictionary definition you brought in which has exposed you as a liar. |
FRANCISTOWN:Yes, you have gone to bring it back. But you left a trail. The reason you posted that screenshot was for what? Was it not to mock me after you deliberately edited my comments to read only "anyone" . You were certain I had no evidence. Now that I provided evidence, you have gone on to edit your comment , but not without leaving a trail. I have screenshot your comments which includes that incase you want to remove it. It's late already. I hope your friends and others following this thread are taking notes of your foolery . Modified. You edited my comment at first to read only "anyone" If you didn't do that,then explain the reason for the screenshot explaining the meaning of that word alone. You quoted me already. So it's easy to edit it in your reply. Stop fooling yourself. |
FRANCISTOWN:Shut up. It wasn't a mistake. The fact you stupidly edited my comment to reply me shows it wasn't. Good day. And continue with your baby talk with others.I can't be wasting my time discussing with someone who lacks integrity . |
I'm FRANCISTOWN:And why did you edit my comment up there to reply me. What sort person are you are? I said you said, "Anyone or anything" ,in my question to you. It's clearly there and everyone can see it.But you edited it to remain "anyone". to reply me. You just exposed your desperation to win an argument with anything SMH. You're not worth anybody's time. |
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