Ziinno:


"but i cant spare to think you wont jump into the rich arms of that pretty fair boy if he gives you as much as a wink"

In this society we live now, I can see why you would think that or assume I do not already live a rich life.

Still, not everyone is slave to money.

Ziinno:


Above all things, A man MUST be self made, dark skinned and above any form of rumours and accusations to get my attention.

Don't read a thousand times before you puzzle out the subtext.

Ziinno:


What are you? The sexuality police?

Not his type? Lol. Since you do not know me, I'll let that slide.

lovelygurl:



You are twisting things up AGAIN. Nobody is talking about standing up for your faith because most countries now embrace different religions. Well except for most Arab countries.
I even think it's hilarious how you keep saying all Christians know this and that when we all know Christians have done worse.

Anyway back to what I was saying. With 'unsafe', I mean where are the 'religious' morals gone that was instilled into them. Most 'religious' country ALSO Nigeria where almost 50% are Christains are unsafe NOT because they stand for their faith. Tell most Nigerian Christains at gun point that they'll be allowed to go if they become a Muslim and see how they change. Do you call that stand up for your faith. In fact the next Sunday there'll be a testimony, the fact that they denied their God is forgotten because they CAN be forgiven.

You are talking about radical feminism and gay rights. So we want to pretend that although you talk bad about those countries they are safer that your holy holy country. I can already list the topics your church is going to talk about on Sunday
Pastor: Lats pray first those ladies that are yet to marry
Ladies dress responsible
Children respect your elders blablabla
Then tongue speaking for about 30 mins. Testimony time, flaunting their fashion skills and dancing skills and the service is over.


Most people go to Church every Sunday in Nigeria, go to the Mosque every Friday. Yet they are the same people that will accuse a rape victim of dressing improperly. In fact no one talks about the rapist or they talk about him however there's a "but the lady didn't dress properly" added to it. Same people brought with "morals".

The fact that Jesus wasn't able to get tempted by the devil in the wilderness is forgotten. Do you want to tell me they never read that part of the Bible?
In fact a baby was too cute that's why she got raped right? How dare he/she have tempted the rapist with her 'baby cuteness'?

Your pastors would rather talk about ridiculous topics, as if those are the real problems, when politicians are there stealing your money. Those politicians were also brought in a very religious country so what went wrong? In stead of the pastor to preach about that, he'll rather people "pray" for them.

Well I have never seen someone pass an exam or earn money just by praying and never leaving the house.

Nigeria is quick to frown about the morals of the western world because they see themselves as holy holy YET criminals like robbers, kidnappers etc are chilling there. That's what I mean with unsafe! Not standing for your religion because like I said most won't do at gun point.

Trudax:
Okay, I think it's official. I know there are various kinds of intelligence, but any intelligence that involves being able to think independently and objectively, examine ideas critical and extrapolate valid conclusions from them, and being open-minded, on the average, black people are inferior to other races in this aspect. This thread substantiates this fact.

If I post this exact same question on a forum like reddit, the kind of responses I will get will be the opposite of what I am receiving here.

For God sake I just posited my opinion elaborately and asked for it to be challenged in a civil way. I even stated explicitly that I was open to have my mind changed. Why am I getting ad hominem attacks instead?

Trudax:


Where did I say I was an atheist? Why are you people in this country so immune to civil discourse?

I am not opposing anyone's choice to train their kids in whatsoever way they feel is best. All I am doing is stating my opinion on an important issue with the hope of having constructive, civil discussions about it, with the possibility of changing my mind if compelling arguments are put forth against mine. But what do I get? Sentimental comments that don't even address the points I raised. What the heck is wrong with people in this part of the world?

Why are your views so insulated from appraisal? So what you are essentially saying is that no one's views on issues should be questioned and we should all just live our lives according to whatever beliefs we have and never question them? How would a society move forward if this is the approach people have towards ideas and beliefs?

I am not infringing on your freedom of choice. I am only exercising my freedom of thought and expression, in a civil way. I am not pointing a gun at you and telling to stop using the Bible as a moral foundation for your children. I am only asking you to question it. Questioning our beliefs and ideas is the only way we can grow intellectually. Dogmatism and fundamentalism has never helped anyone.

Trudax:


What books have been used for years? The Bible? The Quran? And you think they have been effective? Let's examine this claim shall we.

Human beings possess something called empathy. Empathy is the ability to put yourself in the shoes of others. It's the ability to understand another person's suffering and feel it as if you were them. Empathy allows humans to consider the circumstances their actions would have on another individual before committing such action. So the higher the empathy a person has, the less likely he would commit a crime against another person. Empathy is what regulates moral actions, not texts.

Every moral obligation that involves the consequences of our actions that the bible prohibits, like stealing, killing, etc, humans by dint of empathy already know that this is wrong. Anyone who needs a book to tell them that such kinds of actions are wrong, has no empathy. And only psychopaths fall within this category. So I can rightly say that the bible is a reinforcer or reminder of moral values that we already acknowledge.

That aside, the bible also espouses so called moral values that anyone living today would consider as morally reprehensible. Such as endorsing slavery, subjugation and marginalization of women and sanctioning of genocides and some of the other horrifying practices. Now no 21st century person would abide by these laid our codes. Why is it so? Because we have a more nourished framework for empathy. If empathy and our developed notions about the value amd sactity of human life can lead us in a progressively moral direction than the bible could, how then is the bible reliable as a moral foundation?

Also, you claim the bible has worked until recently. Please when exactly is recently?

I am of the opinion that one doesn't necessarily need the bible to acknowledge the good moral values it espouses. All one needs is empathy and common sense. And contrary to your opinion, the bible didn't originate moral values. Moral values precede the bible.

Finally, if the bible actually is an efficient mechanism to instill moral values in people, then Nigeria, given how religious it is, should be among the most moral countries. But the opposite is the case. Nigeria despite all the Bible thumping is corrupt and morally decadent. And quite remarkably, countries that aren't religious, that don't use the bible to instill moral values in their children, countries like Denmark and Sweden, are the most peaceful and moral countries in the world. Why is this so? The answer is obvious. There are alternative ways to raise kids to be moral that are more effective and efficient that using the bible. What the bible-style moral education does is create moral sheep. People who are coerced into adopting moral values by threats of hell and promise of heavenly rewards.

The bible-style morality thrives on selfishness and fear. It tells you to do good for selfish reasons. It tells you to do good for personal rewards in heaven and the avoidance of hell. This in my opinion is not only counter productive but it also stifles empathy.

Children should be taught virtues of compassion and empathy, not fear and blind submission.

Safiaa:
The truth is that nigerians are not educating themselves in the right way.
You're right, they don't know their rights as citizens, and they will continue to accept their atrocious living conditions, because that's all they know. Eveything in nigeria is surrounded by religion. The only reaction that nigerians know is prayer. Pray for politicians who will continue to steal and embezzle the money into their pockets. I just feel sorry for Nigeria. Its a never ending cycle.

Estharfabian:
So, we that don't exactly give a flying fück about marriage, Overrated Relationships and just love A good rump and Knee-weakening head when we get the chance to nko?

We should die abi?
Puleeeeaase, Let us continue to throw ourselves. Izz nuh your throw mbok!

Charly68:
Pray for them Mr Saint ..You can't imagine the trouble they are causing the host of hell hence the attack here & there forgetting that they are human as we are...They only carry grace .. Unfortunately those they are sent to help never remember to intercede for them ..Hence they fall but God is merciful to restore his own..

Alero3Arubi:


Your quote is inside the mention Uto.
Was that deliberate?

Alero3Arubi:


I am very serious here.

Gives me sleepless nights.
And the worst is ayaf being begging Alezy to marry me since 2015.
Ayaf followed him.
PMed him.
Stalked him.
Facebooked him.
Even tweeted him.
He says I have no bumbum or boobs.
lol.atleasts its better than fake ass and boobs and fake camel toes
So my dilemma.
Edakun.
Epp me.

seguntijan:
BournvitaTeachersAward was Cadbury Initiative.Teachers mould your childrens destiny but you dont value them,the corporate organisations dont celebrate teachers but give you meaninglessly stupid reality shows and you go beserk with voting process.Continue and lets see how your children will excel in school under teachers you dont value.

PaperLace:
I'm not trying to wave off verbal abuse but anyone who goes physical on a fellow human is a wild animal and should be confined.
No one should tell me that rubbish of women having bad mouth. Some guys on this NL, with the way they insult_ you can only imagine how they talk in reality. In reality, I know men that can say hurtful things.

Anyone can get verbally abusive when angry, be it male or female. An apology can easily fix that, but how does a man bludgeon his wife. How will he even watch her limp round the house with her strained ankle after the issue has been resolved?

Please, people should learn self restraint. Conductors, keke drivers insult you guys everyday, you don't beat them. Then you beat your wife and say she has bad mouth? Didn't your sisters have bad mouth, did you beat them?

For the advocates of women are verbally abusive, I have a question. When a man annoys his wife, what does she do, considering the fact she can't beat him? Maybe she should stab him in his sleep or put something in his meal.
Dunderheads!

Alero3Arubi:


Exactly.
But don't tell me you woke up early to do this?
Smh. But you are absolutely right.

iambijo:
That (No.6) ! the more you give them, the lazier they will become, those nigga's need to work there arses up

darlenese:


Loose my cool? When I'm happily married and I'm not a product of a disfunctioned home , and I didn't allow other people 's experience interfere with my personal life , my dear , u are wrong !
Referring to my marriage as "just 7years " wasn't right and I can't pretend not to notice that , from an unmarried lady for that matter
Pls don't forget to quote me when u are 7 Years in marriage !

Ioannes:
Sincerely speaking, if I was a staunch and dedicated Moslem, the US or Western European countries would be the last place I'd ever want to go.

I'd rather head to Qatar, UAE or Saudi.

Why would I endanger my faith by being exposed to Western lifestyle when I can safely practice my faith and have access to qualitative living by going to developed Moslem countries?

jejemanito:
Funny thing is if you'd allowed yourself to be wrapped under the cloak of "religion," chances of your constructing such a nice write-up would've been very very very slim.

All I know is there is something about religion: it bars us from exploring the full potentials of our thinking abilities.