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AlMuflihah:
Sincerely my heart just melted. I'm sorry if I had sounded unlady-like.
And one more thing though keep off our Muhammad(Peace be Upon him).
And you right

Did your mohammed keep off from the Jews and the christians?

analice107:
Am shamed of you, only because I share the same gender with you. You open your mouth constantly to insult a man who has not insulted you even once.
Islam is indeed a virus. Go back and check from the beginning of this thread, no Christian has called any of you a fool or an idiot. The reverse has been the case. I can tolerate the men, but a woman calling a man an idiot? Do you think because you are a Muslim that exonerate you from being morally upright?
Where do you come from? because we as Africans have a culture which respects each other, especially our men first, before following any religion we choose, which also shd make us better people, not worst. OMW

I have been following you and the way you allow your mouth roll out shit. I hope you know that so many people are reading what we type here silently? I hope you know you are here projecting and representing your religion? Otio.

I think she is new on nairaland. She will soon be used to hearing unpleasant truth about Islam/allahh/Mohammed. Her insult and abuse won't stop anyone from quoting all the evils in the Quran and the hadith and giving reasonable arguments against some evil instructions and deeds of Mohammed.

lexiconkabir:
actually you sound frustrated, you are masking your frustration under that "hahahahaha" which op? op that has been busted?

How did you burst the op? Did he compile the hadith? Is he Abu Dawud?

Demmzy15:
So by this nonsense, you're trying to justify christians killing Jews abi? I could remember a scenario of when the black death plague struck the world, christians blamed Jews and started killing them. Now christians are police in this case abi?



Being a Jew is different from being a Christian, If a Jew is a Christian, then he can't be like you because he would reject trinity and he'll still uphold law. Something you christians of today consider as a curse! Muslims at some time fought Jews after they betrayed and they also protected them when they were loyal. But christians killed them at every slightest opportunity, don't forget that Jews consider their golden age to be under Islamic States, so stop bothering with your boring nonsense. They've refuted you, you now want to derail the thread and disturb abi?

Nowhere did I justify the killing of Jews, they are human and true custodian of the prophetic blessings bestow upon them by the Almighty (not like the arab impostor who called himself a prophet). There was no time christians killed Jews nor hate Jews. No true christian kill any single Jew.

Till date, virtually all the christian countries are in support of the Jews right to exist while all muslim countries are for the destruction of the state of Israel, what does that tell you? The only arab-muslim country that has diplomatic relation with the Jews is Egypt and saddat (who brokered the deal) paid the price with his blood, he was assisinated by the muslim brotherhood for signing a peace treaty with Israel.

History and facts doesnt lie but muslims do. Can you deny the fact that your quran and hadith called for the extermination of the Jews? Can you deny the fact that an average muslim, from birth, is programmed to hate the Jews? You cant. See the quran and hadith below, dont tell me its a weak or fabricated hadith:

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

The Jews do not believe in trinity, does that stop the muslim\arabs fighting and killing them worldwide? I laughed at your ignorant when you said christians are curses. You are the first muslim that I am hearing this from. As at today, christian countries are the richest and current run the world, including what happen in your muslim countries and who should be installed leaders.

Read bro.

facheux:
Just imagine, Mary, mother of Jesus pbuh, in a very conservative and religious community. She is from a well known family-

This virtuous, unmarried woman arrives carrying her child, in front of people who new her and her family very well.

How can she prove her innocence? Would anyone believe her? What on earth is she going to do?She needed a miracle.

You can not find the answer to these questions in the canonical Gospels. You will not find the answer even in the non-canonical Gospel of Infancy of Jesus pbuh, which has Jesus pbuh speaking in the cradle but only to his mother and Joseph, who is described as her spouse. But if she was married, there would be no cause for concern!

You will, however, find the answers in the Quran.

Only a miracle could vindicate Mary in front of the people. She needed a miracle, and that is precise;y what she got. A great miracle:

It was baby Jesus pbuh, still in the cradle, who spoke to the crowd, defending his mother, and vindicating her for ever, and dispelling any doubt about her purity.

This is how the whole scene is beautifully described in the Quran:

The Quran, Chaper 19: MARY

16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.
17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ((Allah)) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."
19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed."
22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.
23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!"
24. But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;
25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, 'I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being'"
27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!
28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"
29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;
31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;
32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;
33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!
34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.
36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight

Lies no 2, Mary was never the sister of Aaron. Where did Mohammed get his stories from?

AlMuflihah:
YES the Qur'an can no longer be abrogated... but while it was being revealed, some verses came to abrogate some... the abrogated verses are called 'mansukh' while the abrogating ones are called 'naasikh'.

Abrogation Naskh means lifting or removing, but in islamic terminology it means lifting the ruling indicated by an islamic text on the basis of another evidence from the Qur'an or Sunnah.
any other question after this?

If within 10 years most of the earlier quranic revelations were abrogated, cancelled or changed, what gives you the impression that, if mohammed were to be alive alive today, more revelations will not be abrogated and replaced with a new one?

Demmzy15:
Are you sensible at all? I asked a question and I need an answer, if you can't answer shut da hell up!

Your question is like 'who kill people more, armed robbers or police'? That's a silly question to be asked by an adult, if you are one. If you have value for human life who wont ask such question.

And I tell you that the fighting\killing of Jews is fully endorsed in both in the quran and the hadith. Any muslim that kill any Jews is a normal exercise in obedience to allahh and his apostle. No christian book sanctioned or approved killing of Jews. All the early christians, as a matter of fact, are all Jews.

Demmzy15:
Christians are the people who have killed the highest amount of Jews, can you dispute this fact? I need an answer please!

Your argument is not whether the muslims kill the Jews or not, your argument is on who killed more. Can you see how muslims reason? Must you kill\attack your fellow human being with no just cause?

There is no any christian sacred text that santioned the killing of Jews, but both the quran and the hadith are filled with call to violence against the Jews. I can give you many quranic verses and hadiths that sanctioned muslims to fight and kill the jews.

In most muslim countries, ordinarily identifying oneself as a Jews is as good as suicide. If any Jews is seen anywhere in saudi arabia he will be killed immediately, in obedience to the law of allahh\mohammed.

So take a chill pill, your request for the highest killer of Jews is both stupid and dangerous. Your quran legally sanctioned the killing of Jews till date and muslim-arab, till date, are calling for wholesale massacre of Jews wherever they are found.

Blackfire:
i ve never denied been an atheist, u are under a fusion of illusion. I can be friend with chritains, Hindus, zoroastans, Buddhists, Jews, traditional worshipers and i feel safe among them, i may ve my ish with them, we discuss , without any fatwa of death on my head. I learnt alot from them like Ali sina did.
But can that be said of u Muslims.... No. Intact mohamed ibn abdulallah specifically told u , u must never take Christians and Jews as friend,(even on this forum i ve seen a Muslim castigating his fellow Muslim for calling a Christian friend, u people are sick)... If so much hatred for these people , me an atheist will be killed by u morons.

So many people knew me as an open confessed atheist.

But u need to ask yourself why i know Islam, and hate what it propagates... Was i a former Muslim or a guy who bought the quran read it, and find tears, sorrows and blood.

If u want to meet me in person, i live in ibadan. Altaqiya is what mohamed and Allah does best.

I am not an atheist but I do share some of your sentiments. Mohammed did not hide his hatred for the Jews and christians (quran 5:51, quran 98:6, quran quran 9:29)

DeathStroke007:
It's in the hadith itself you will see the Chain of narration.. The hadith you posted is weak hadith..


And if you wanna say its strong hadith... Then the Moses law justified what the hadith is saying as right...



Let's forget maybe weak hadith or not..



What that hadith is saying is supported by mosaic law..the commandments from God... The law about adultery... Go read it's explanation

If the narration is weak why is
there no fatwa to condemn the
hadith? If I publish thing against
your prophet, in a public magazine,
wont your mufti and ayatollas issue
a fatwa for me to be killed for blasphemy against your prophet? Is
there any official rejection of this
hadith, by the council of islamic
scholars, aside from classifying it as
a weak hadith by some unkown
and irrelevant muslims like you? Take a chill pill, there are thousands
of hadiths, without chain of
narrators, which spoke well of your
prophet and were all clasified sahih
(original), why the inconsistency
anytime the hadith place your prophet in a bad light? You muslims
cant just cherry-pick what you
want in the hadith, it is either you
accept all hadiths that had been in
circulation for hundreds of years or
you discard the hadiths altogether. Some muslims have already
discarded the hadith and call
themselves 'quran only' muslims.
Why are you deceiving yourselve
ignorantly?

AlMuflihah:
I told u to learn small Arabic u say no, if u had known d meaning of da'if d amount of disgrace u'll bring upon urself would be a bit minimal...oya let's debate,in a honest and good manner, as academics and intellectuals...but u haven't proven dat u have a brain to debate me with...

What will be the usefulness of arabic aside from wasting my time reading the quran and the hadith? What benefit or impact has quran\hadith made in the life of muslims in muslim countries?

In this modern age and time, I dont need to understand German to know that Hitler's 'meim kapmf' is the new testament of the quran.

DeathStroke007:
Am just seeing the title of this thread ni sha...


#laughing#

Wahala wa o..



This Christians and lies sha..



Ma go read the post come show una lies

Is it muslims or christians that compiled the hadith? Are u ok?

DeathStroke007:
Hmmmm... No let me abuse you.. Let me just say its your ignorance.. But still we in 21st century, why can't you do research on something before you Post... That shows you lack knowledge and wisdom..





Well, you quoted hadith with no narration chain... This hadith is daif.. Weak hadith.


Hadith is the saying and deeds of prophet Muhammad(saw) written by other people. And we Muslims are told to allow and accept hadith with strong chain of narration from people close to prophet Muhammad (saw)..


This hadith is either weak or it's fake hadith..






To answer your question.... #go read the 10 commandments of moses and emphasize on knowing more on the adultery part#

That's your assignment..



I won't be giving you fools straight answes again.. Na assignment I go dey turn ur questions to for you...





You might say why Bible, because bible is written on rumours. 90% lie, 10% Truth. Among that 10% is the answer to your question

If the narration is weak why is there no fatwa to condemn the hadith? If I publish thing against your prophet, in a public magazine, wont your mufti and ayatollas issue a fatwa for me to be killed for blasphemy against your prophet? Is there any official rejection of this hadith, by the council of islamic scholars, aside from classifying it as a weak hadith by some unkown and irrelevant muslims like you?

Take a chill pill, there are thousands of hadiths, without chain of narrators, which spoke well of your prophet and were all clasified sahih (original), why the inconsistency anytime the hadith place your prophet in a bad light? You muslims cant just cherry-pick what you want in the hadith, it is either you accept all hadiths that had been in circulation for hundreds of years or you discard the hadiths altogether.

Some muslims have already discarded the hadith and call themselves 'quran only' muslims. Why are you deceiving yourselve ignorantly?

lexiconkabir:
so you have turned to malvisguy, i thought this has been beautifully explained to you by AlMuflihah? i counsel thee to go back and read that post, perhaps ye might understand.

If Abu Dawud make a mistake on this hadith, why is it still among the reference hadith collections and still in islamic library? Any publication deemed errorneous is removed from circulation.

facheux:
It's a weak hadith.

Why so emotional?

If that same hadith had praise mohammed for good works will you still call it a 'weak' hadith?

AlMuflihah:
You see that's why I always emphasize USE YOUR BRAIN AND DO RESEARCH DONT COME OUTSIDE AND HUMILIATE YOURSELF... if you had followed this advice you wouldn't have showed your idiocity to the world... How difficult can it get, use your brain before saying anything, and if you don't have go borrow na or get brain transplant although I am sure it won't work in your skull.

Sorry sister you are not making sense, you are just throwing insults left and right. Make a honest debate and stop this rubish insult.

Demmzy15:
This people are humans and they're prone to mistakes. No one is perfect, if you christians can be careful as Muslims, then all the nasty stories of your would be filtered out!

Oh sorry, the people are human and are prone to mistakes, anytime they write anything you dont want to believe your prophet said or did but Bhukari and Dawud are the 'most authentic' hadith collectors whenever they right good things about your prophet.

Keep deceiving yourselves.

Demmzy15:
This people are humans and they're prone to mistakes. No one is perfect, if you christians can be careful as Muslims, then all the nasty stories of your would be filtered out!

If Abu Dawud make a mistake on this hadith, why is it still among the reference hadith collections and still in islamic library. Any publication deemed errorneous is removed from circulation while some a burnt.

The book 'satanic verse' was viewed as an offense to islam worldwide and a fatwa was issued by Ayatolla Khomeni for the writer, Salman Rushdie, be murdered by any good muslims. Why dont any sheik, mufti or Ayatolla issue a fatwa to denounce this hadith as weak or fabricated if they are 100% sure it is a weak hadith?

Demmzy15:
Lol, at least your lies were busted!!! Oya face front!

Looks like I need to follow you so as I can be able to refute and disgrace you well!

Which lie do you bust, that i compiled the hadith i quoted or what? Am i abu dawud or Bhukari who compiled disgraceful hadiths against your prophet?

Demmzy15:
This is why you're a dullard, didn't you see where it was stated by Sheikh Al-albani that it's a weak hadeeth, what's wrong with you? Your lies are busted you still want to argue, instead you to find something better to do you're looking for hadeeth Deal with your bible first, leave Islam alone!!! Kai!!!

Thats a typical islamic lie anytime an hadith talk negetive about mohammed.

Demmzy15:
Mr. Man its a weak hadeeth, what else do you want? Why are you even emotional about, it's my hadeeth not yours so why want to kill yourself about it?!

See me see wahala o!!!

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We have to be concerned with the acts and deeds of mohammed, as recorded in the hadith, because it has destroyed many lives and families. Your straw man's excuse that the hadith was fabricated is a lie. If the hadith is fabricated why do you still have it in islamic libraries and still use it as a teaching material in some madrasas? If it is fabricated why cant muslims burn it and do official fatwa that mohammed never said what he was alleged to have said in that hadith?

Blackfire:
Mon ami, parle anglais... Ne pas francais.

If u are sure of Islam, mohamed, Allah... We are here to make u see the tears, sorrows and blood they ve caused mankind..

Pls don't use al taqiya here, it will only make u silly.

Again i say welcome.

Dont mind the guy facheux, he seem to be new on nairaland. We will teach him real islam that he wont be taught in any mosque or madrassas.]

facheux:
MUHAMMAD (peace and blessings be upon him).

He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numerous social and political reforms, established a powerful and dynamic society to practice and represent his teachings and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and behavior for all times to come.

He was born in Arabia in the year 570 C.E. (Common Era), started his mission of preaching the religion of Truth, Islam (submission to One God at the age of forty and departed from this world at the age of sixty-three.

During this short period of 23 years of his prophethood, he changed the complete Arabian Peninsula from paganism and idolatry to worship of One God, from tribal quarrels and wars to national solidarity and cohesion, from drunkenness and debauchery to sobriety and piety, from lawlessness and anarchy to disciplined living, from utter bankruptcy to the highest standards of moral excellence. Human history has never known such a complete transformation of a people or a place before or since - and IMAGINE all these unbelievable wonders in JUST OVER TWO DECADES.

The world has had its share of great personalities. But these were one sided figures who distinguished themselves in but one or two field, such as religious thought or military leadership. The lives and teachings of these great personalities of the world are shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the time and place their birth, the mode and style of their life, the nature and detail of their teachings and the degree and measure of their success or failure that is impossible for humanity to reconstruct accurately the lives and teachings of these men.

Not so this man. Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) accomplished so much in such diverse fields of human thought and behavior in the fullest blaze of human history. Every detail of his private life and public utterances has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to our day. The authenticity of the records so preserved are vouched for not only by the faithful followers but even by his prejudiced critics.

Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, an administrative colossus, a faithful friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father - all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in any of these different aspects of life - but it was only for the selfless personality of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to achieve such incredible perfection.

Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was nothing more or less than a human being. but he was a man with a noble mission, which was to unite humanity on the worship of ONE and ONLY ONE GOD and to teach them the way to honest and upright living based on the commands of God. He always described himself as, 'A Servant and Messenger of God' and so indeed every action of his proclaimed to be.

I will employ you as my chief propaganda officer, you are a good propagandist.

The social changes you are talking about does it include the shia\sunni crisis he created in the middle east and the entire muslim world? Does the social changes include his forceful expulsion of Jews from the arabian peninsula? The religous reform you talked about does it include his instructions for muslims to attack the christians and the Jews for rejecting him as a false prophet (quran 9:29)?

His high moral standard, does it include his getting married to a 6 year old girl when he was 54? Does it include his calling the Jews and the christians the worst of creatures (quran 98:6)? Does it include his getting married to zainab, his alleged daughter-in-law and wife of his adopted son Zaid? Does it include approval of telling lies:

Bukhari Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857: Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba: That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by INVENTING good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”

Muslim Book 032, Number 6303: Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good.

Lest I forget, among the legacy he brought was the random assasination of the 3rd, 4th and 5th khalifa in the hand of fellow muslims after the death of mohammed. His grandchildren were also killed by soldiers loyal to aisha who are the present sunnis and the largest muslim sect.

I can go on and on to list the misfortunes that mohammed brought to muslims and the arabs in particular. If islam is so good and sharia is the divine laws of allahh, why are muslim going to war, in some muslim countries (egypt, tunisia, sudan, afghanistan etc), to avoid the imposition of sharia laws on them?

On the concept of 'one God', the Jews already believe in one God, thousands of years, before the concept of the oneness of God was propagated to the arabs by mohammed. So mohammed's teaching of one God and uplifting of their family idol into a god status does not in anyway make mohammed a prophet. Mohammed's father was a pagan and his names was Abdullah (meaning slave of allahh). The concept of the 'slaves of allahh' was practiced and believed by the arab pagans before mohammed was born. Can you deny this simple fact?

Demmzy15:
You're a miserable man, did you care to check the authenticity of this hadeeth?! Here is it:

Grade : Da'if (Al-Albani)
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 2131
In-book reference : Book 12, Hadith 86
English translation : Book 11, Hadith 2126
The hadeeth is unauthentic!

Da`if -weak hadeeth:

A hadith which fails to reach the status of Hasan is Da`if. Usually, the weakness is one of discontinuity in the isnad, in which case the hadith could be Mursal, Mu`allaq, Mudallas, Munqati` or Mu`dal, according to the precise nature of the discontinuity, or one of a reporter having a disparaged character, such as due to his telling lies, excessive mistakes, opposition to the narration of more reliable sources, involvement in innovation, or ambiguity surrounding his person.

The smaller the number and importance of defects, the less severe the weakness. The more the defects in number and severity, the closer the hadith will be to being Maudu` (fabricated).

Some ahadith, according to the variation in the nature of the weakness associated with its reporters, rank at the bottom of the Hasan grade or at the top of the Da`if grade. Reporters such as `Abdullah b. Lahi'ah (a famous judge from Egypt), `Abd al-Rahman b. Zaid b. Aslam, Abu Bakr b. Abi Maryam al-Himsi, Faraj b. Fadalah, and Rishdin b. Sa'd attract such types of varying ranks as they are neither extremely good preservers nor totally abandoned by the traditionists.

O ye Christians change, as for the inbred animals making noise, continue o!!! Your deception has been exposed once again, next?!!

Which deception are you talking about? Am I the one that compiled the hadith? Why is it that any hadith that narrates what muslims dont want to know or hear about mohammed is branded 'a fabricated hadith'?

This hadith is over 1000 years in islamic library, why does it, all of us a sudden became fabricated and yet it is all over big libraries, even in saudi arabia? The issue is that you muslims are hypocrites, you reject any hadith that seem to portray your prophet in bad light and accept the ones that show him in a good light as authentic, well thats not the essence of this thread.

This thread is all about the misogynistic nature of mohammed which crept into islamic and arabian culture, the maltreatment of woman in islamic societies. In islam, a woman is reduced to sex object or farm where man can easily go and cultivate and come back from farm. Mohammed described women as 'tilt for a man to cultivate'. Hope you understand what your prophet tried to say or implied there.

Annunaki:
Muslims will tell you the Quoran is fabricated if it embarrasses their useless prophet.

No, they will say we need to read it in arabic to get a better understanding of the context or that we should read the tasfir of 'islamic scholars' such as ibn kathir or ibn ishaq concerning the verse (especially if the verse indict mohammed badly).

Yes, the honour of the profiteer mohammed must be protected at all cost.

analice107:
My dear brother, it will be considered as insult to God if it has been established that indeed allahh is God. But he is not.
allahh is Satan. One of the demons of Ka'aba.
You know a tree by its fruits not by its leafs.
I don't know what that vermin was thinking, claiming he is a prophet of God, when all his activities negates God and the teachings of God.

I hope muslims will not say this hadith is fabricated to tarnish the image of their prophet.

Sunan Abu Dawud 2126, “A man from the Ansar called Basrah said: ‘I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet).’ The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: ‘She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. The child will be your slave. When she has begotten (a child), flog her’ “.

A good Muslim marries a woman, thinking her a virgin, then finds out that she is pregnant. Muhammad – divinely inspired –then tells him to treat the woman as if she were a sexx slave and flog her after she is delivered of the child while the child will be a slave to the man.

We all know that islamic society is governed by what is written in the quran, the narrations of the hadith (about the prophet) and the sunnah of the islamic prophet. Sunah Abu Dawud is one of the trusted islamic source with regard to the life-styles of the islamic prophet and mohammed is the embodiment of perfections and the last and seal of the prophets that muslims are expected to follow (his foot-steps).

On this particular issue, as a christian, I think what the islamic prophet advised concerning how this pregnant woman should be treated is wrong. There should have been a better way to manage the situation than enslaving an unborn child and flogging the mother (after she would have given birth) supposedly for fornication.

hammedah001:
You are a stupid fool, where in the quran was it stated that the Muhammed was poised

If you believe in the hadith and the sunnahh of the islamic prophet, you will believe that profiteer mohammed (shitt be upon him) died of food poisoning. You dont need to be hurt, that the ugly reality muslims must accept. We do not compile the hadith and the sira, it was done by islamic historian of great repute whom you guys do called 'islamic scholars'. See the hadith below that reported how your prophet died:

Bukhari's Hadith 3.786: Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle.

Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you
will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."

Ibn Sa'd page 249: Verily a Jewish woman presented
poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."

Former Nigeria head of state, General Sani Abacha, was also reported to have died of food poisoning.

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Please use your God-given brain, stop worshipping your racist arab master (if your are not arab yourself). Be proud of your language, culture, history, heritage and values.

allahh is an arab demon and mohammed was his apostle.

AlMuflihah:
And I feel really irked by your post shifting method, first of all, if you really think you want to display your frustrations, you could open different threads to answer one question at a time that you find incomprehensible and invite me to them. I see you lumping so many things together and just can't stand that unacademic approach. So please this thread is about your esteemed G.J.O. Moshay's display of ignorance of the Arabic language. So henceforth I would only respond to intelligent replies from you on this topic alone. If you need tutoring on any other topic related to Islam, open another thread(s) and invite me to it...

I wont be comfortable in your ignorance and will continue exposing the arab imperial machinery which is islam.

On arabic language you held so much in a high esteem, it is either you are an arab yourself or a highly islamically brainwashed person that is groomed to promote arabian language and culture over your indigenous language which mother nature blessed you with.

AlMuflihah:
I can feel the frustration In you. Well,you can go to hell...you have no points whatsoever... and as I told u earlier... u are too intellectually shallow to hold an evidence based discussion with me...

I know that common-sense, reasons and facts are taboos to islam\muslims. You guys dont reason with facts, especially when it contradicts what your pedofile profiteer mohammed said or did.

I asked you are question that you choose to ignore, since islam is for intellectual, can you mention any single muslim that had won any science award? Can you give me a single muslim nation that is technologically advanced? You arabs\muslims contribute nothing to the progress of humanity but terrorism and islamic lies and brainwashings from childhood.

AlMuflihah:
I guess you see the problem now, you are a people who worship other people. First of all I believe you have problem organising your thoughts for you are raising so many unrelated issues simultaneously. And I really see you are really not in this century or you rather chose to ignore thinking for yourself and rely only on what some ill-informed people brainwash you with. First of all lemme give you an assignment, you could go research on the technological advances of Saudi Arabia, or need I say the dubai you so much yearn to go to is a Muslim country. Need I tell you where the world's tallest building is? And please I think it's about time I stopped wasting my energy on a fruitless endeavour like you. If you are spite about how we remain pure to our religious teachings, just tell me, I would humbly educate you instead of resorting to libel, slander, blasphemy and distortion of facts. Arabic is a prerequisite for understanding Islam; learn it or shut that garbage hole you call mouth and stop displaying your ignorance and illiteracy to the world.

God forbid, I dont worship other people but appreciate the progress made by the countries I listed. Do you have problem with that since there is no single muslim country that made the list of developed nations.

Can you give a single muslim that have won nobel laurrete for science? Just one person. Can you give a single technical product that is produced in saudi arabia and export to another country?

I never yearned to go to dubai, who told you that? Are you dreaming? 90% of advance buildings and infrastructure in dubai and saudi arabia are built by non-muslim expatriates, are you that daft that you know know this simple facts? Without oil and gas money, the saudis and the pple of dubai will still be living tatched houses and riding camels in the arabian deserts. You ungrateful muslims seem never to appreciate the fact that the civilized world is tryin to help you guys free from mohammed-induced backwardness reminicent to dark age period.

Arabic is a condition for understandin islam, just as latin is the condition for understanding catholicism, and yoruba language is a pre-requistive for understanding ifa religion and its incantations. Different races, diffrent colour, different languages and different religions. Thats how nature made it but the arabs want to destroy all cultures and languages, either throught jihad (quran 9:29, quran 8:39) or blackmail.


Wise up and stop following the arabian imperial political religion which offers you nothing but backwardness, illiteracy anf poverty. Your muslim brothers can no longer stay in their countries, except the oil rich ones, they are all running to the US and europe to escape islamic poverty, oppression and tyranny.