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Are Ahmadiyyas regarded as true muslims? Someone told me that they are also regarded as kufars and are not allowed in saudi arabia?

analice107:
According to Wafa, it's not. 20% but 50%. When that was raising eye brows, he came up with the verse that the booty is for Allah and his Apostle. And because no one else heard from allahh to verify, and because they have witness what happens to anyone who goes against the apostle of allahh, they all kept quiet and fall in line.

"And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to allahh and his Apostle, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, if ye do believe in allahh and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For allahh hath power over all things. (Quran 8:41)

So allahh and his apostle are assigned 20% of war booty. Mohammed, after the death of his rich wife khadijah, had to engaged in perpetually fighting the pagans with the sole aim of collecting war booty from them while the Jews and christians (they are not necessarily expected to converted to islam) are to pay jizya to their muslim masters while feeling humiliated (quran 9:29) or else they will be attacked.

For more than 1300 years, the arab-muslims have been using this techniques as a means of survival: attack infidels, rob them, collect their hard-earned monies and properties in obedience to allahh and his apostle. For the christians in muslim land, they are to pay extortion money called jizya and under shame and humiliation.

Now, since muslim nations are weak and poor, the new pattern of collecting jizya is migration to rich non-muslim nation to collect jizya in the form of free house, free food, free medical, free education, free free free. Arab-muslims never like paying for anything, they either rob to get those things from infidels or migrate to the land of kufars to collect free stuffs.

Who says mohammed is not a hardened criminal possessed by a strong devil!

Annunaki:
The worst thing about islam is labelling a paedophile, armed robber, murderer, rapist, terrorist, liar, adulterer and psychopath 'the best of mankind' and islam's best example. That is why muslim's feel justified in perpetuating evil since their best example did worse. I watched a youtube video this morning were a muslim imam was bragging that muslims had a right to seize(steal) the property of unbelievers and rape unbelieving women. His argument was that as a non Muslim you have no rights since you have rejected allaah who owns everything. Islam is nothing but a curse to the world.

Dont forget that allahh and his apostle has 20% share of all what muslims looted from the kufar (on any Gwazwa or raid of kufars) while the remaining 80% is shared among the muslim ummah. allahh and mohammed are truly great.

Mohammed is allahh's apostles, those that follow him are merciful to themselves but harsh to non-muslims (written in the wholey quran).

lexiconkabir:
I dont remember quoting you.

Dont let mohammed (his be upon him)separate us, we are still friends and I will always quote you when necessary.

The elders brothers seem to be slow men. Why not pay the yeye pastor an August visit and a nice beating and maiming gift?

lexiconkabir:
which one you dey na? at some other threads you act up as if you are civil, now tell me how civil that statement of yours is? when next you want to mention me, act like you got sense.

Maa binu, I am sorry. Do you believe that all what Wafa Sultan said about Islam and Mohammed is true? If not, can you tell us where she lied against your noble prophet?

Skako:
how did she becomes Muslim hero? with this rubbish?

She became an hero by exposing our Islamic religion as a vile and ugly ideology thats very dangerous to man. Currently a fatwa had been issued on his head, by Sheik Quadawari of the Egyptian muslim brotherhood, for her to be killed by devout muslims who are truly willing to defend the honour of our beloved prophet (hiss be upon him).

Our Islamic religion is peaceful but anyone that insult our prophet, or Islam, must be killed.

My fellow Muslims seem to be avoiding this thread, why?

analice107:
My work in this clinic was confined, in most cases to diagnosing pregnancies and confirming the virgin status of young girls. Most of the girls were unmarried and came with their mothers who wanted to reassure themselves that their daughters were still virgins. And also to find out if they were pregnant. It was the doctors task to abort the children of the girls who were pregnant and patch up those who have lost thier virginity.
The patients and their escorts enter the office concealed under their cloaks so that only their hands showed, None wished to risk being recognized. In the examination room, the story was always the same

"Doctor, my daughter had a serious Fall and bled when she was a child, we are here now to make sure she is still a virgin, because shes about to get married."
In almost all the cases, after a number of questions, the girls would CONFESS THAT FOR YEARS, SINCE CHILDHOOD, THEY HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED BY THEIR FATHERS, BROTHERS, STEP BROTHERS ESPERCIALLY, UNCLES, AND OTHER MALE RELATIVES. And the doctor will be asked to help solve the problem, and carry out an operation to cover up the shame. The mothers will go to any length to borrow money for this operation, because she dares not say anything about it, or her daughter will be stoned to death.

Wafa-Sultan

Serious Islamic comedy.

TruthHurts1:
A brave Ex- Muslim raised the following 10 questions for his former religious companions. These questions have been translated into about 400 languages.
The questions are as follows:

1. Why Allah changed his own statements in the Holy Quran?

The following are examples of the good and kind verses, Allah revealed to our Holy Prophet in Mecca when he had only one wife, Kadhija.

“Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously” (Q.73:10)
“To you be your religion, and to me my religion.” (Q.109:6)
“Therefore be patient with what they say, and celebrate (constantly) the praises of your Lord” (Q.20:103)
“...and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: ‘We are Christians”; because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.” (Q.5:82
“We well know what the infidels say: but you are not to compel them”. (Q.50:45)
“Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant” (Q7:119)
“Pardon thou, with a gracious pardoning.” (Q.15:85)
“Tell those who believe, to forgive, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of Allah.” (Q.45.14)
“Those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians – any who believe in Allah and the last day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” (Q.2:62)
“And do not dispute with the followers of the Book, except what is best.” (Q.29:46
After the death of Kadhija, our holy Prophet married Sawda, and then under-aged 9-year-old Aisha at the age of 53 and by this time he became very powerful in Medina. However, the Jews and Christians had rejected his claim of prophethood and his call to embrace Islam. Now the attitude of the Prophet and tone of Allah’s subsequent verses dramatically changed. Let us now take a look at the new Koranic verses, and also reflect a little on why Allah could not honour his own earlier words.

“Oh you who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you” (Q.9:123)
“I will instil terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite above their necks and smite all their finger tips off.” (Q.8:12)
“Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him.” (Q.3:85)
“Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.” (Q.9.5)
“slay them wherever ye catch them.” (Q.2:191)
“Humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax if they are Christians or Jews,” (Q.9:29)
“Allah deceived and Allah is the best of deceivers” (Q 3:54)
“Muslims do not take Jews and Christians as your friends” (Q 5:51)
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day, and fight people of the book.” (Q.9:29)
“O people of the Book (Jews and Christians), do you find fault with us, except that we believe in Allah? Shall I inform you of him who is worse than this in retribution from Allah? Worse is he whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine and he who served idols. Such are in worse plight and far more astray from the straight path” (Q.5:59-60)
If Jews and Christians are the breed of monkeys and pigs in the eyes of Allah, then how it is possible that out of 820 or so Nobel Prize winners, 800 belonged to the People of the Book (Christians 620, Jews 180)?

Have you noticed that all inventions and discoveries that we use today, from safety-pin to aspirin, were made by people who never read our Holy Quran?

How we, the Muslims, can demand respect from others without any contribution to humanity?

2. Accusation of our Holy Prophet of being a paedophile?

According to Sahih Al-Bukhari (Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236), our Holy Prophet married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.

Is it normal for a 50-year-old Holy Prophet to fall in love with a 9-year-old girl and for a 53-year-old Holy Prophet to consummate a 9-year-old girl?

Was he the best of Allah’s creation, as we claim?

Are we to follow this example and marry six-year-old girls?

3. Accusation that our Holy Prophet a looter of caravans, a rapist and a slave trader?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:

“We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives and we desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.( molesting the women and withdrawing before ejaculation, because pregnant women are difficult to sell in the slave trade) So we asked Allah’s Apostle, he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul is predestined to exist, it will exist.”

This hadith proves that our Prophet looted caravans, raped captured women and was involved in slave trade.

Accordingly, non-Muslims are accusing our Holy Prophet of being a looter, rapist and slave trader. How do we counter these accusations?

4. Accusation that our Holy Prophet was a mass murderer?

According to Sahih Bukhari (Volume 4, Book 52, Number 280), after 25 days of holding Banu Qurayza besieged, the Jews eventually surrendered unconditionally as was demanded by our Holy Prophet. By the order of our Holy Prophet, between 600 and 900 of the Jewish men were beheaded.

Even if these Jews were found ‘treacherous’, was he not a "mercy of God to mankind" as Allah has said in the Quran? How could he then commit this horrendous massacre?

Yet, our Prophet boasted of such cruelties: “I have been made victorious through terror”. (Bukhari 4:52:220)

Soon after our Holy prophet set foot in Medina, he started his campaign of terror. His followers have been doing the same ever since until this day.

5. Accusation of polygamy against our Holy Prophet

After Kadhija’s death when our Prophet was 50 years old, he had more than 20 wives and concubines. They were: Sawda, Aisha, Hafsa, Zaynab biny khuzayma, Umm Salama Rayhana, Zaynab bint Jahsh, Juwariya, Safiya, Barra, and Maria etc. Many of them were beautiful young widows from war-booty between the ages of 15 to 20.

6. Did Our Holy Prophet marry his own daughter-in-law Zainab?

Our Holy Prophet peeped through the window of his adopted son Zaid’s house and found Zaid’s wife Zainab in her night dress, which aroused his sexual desires for her. When Zaid heard about it, he become heart-broken, and divorced Zainab so that our Holy Prophet, his father, could marry her. And to clear the way for him to marry his daughter-in-law, which was not approved in Arab societies, our Prophet produced the following Quranic verse:

“You did hide in yourself that which Allâh will make manifest, you did fear the people whereas Allâh had a better right that you should fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished his desire from her (i.e. divorced her), We gave her to you in marriage, so that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them. And Allâh’s Command must be fulfilled” (Q.33:37).

Was this verse, which gives Muslims licence to marry the wife of their adopted sons, needed for guiding humanity to the right path?

7. Why Our Holy Prophet had broken the promise given to his 12 wives?

Mariah was a very beautiful Coptic Christian slave-girl of Hafsa, a wife of our Prophet. Though our prophet had promised to his wives that he would not have sex with Mariah, he cleverly planned and sent Hafsa out to her father Omar’s house on the pretext of an urgent matter, and had sex with Mariah when Hafsa was gone. When Hafsa found out that father didn’t call for her and returned home quickly, she found our Holy Prophet having sex with Maria in her bed.

In this awful situation, how did Our Holy prophet react? He pulled out another Quranic verse, allegedly coming from Allah, to give him divine license to commit such sexual act:

“O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allâh has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Allâh has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of your oaths. And Allâh is your Maula (Protector.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise”. (Q.66:1-5)

Is this verse needed to be there in the Quran for guiding humankind to the right path? Or was devised just to cover his sexual pleasures?

Intelligent Aisha, being the favourite wife, knew our prophet well and rightly said: "Allah really sends his verses at and for your convenience, Rasool Allah!"

8. Is Allah the pagan moon God?

Was not our Prophet’s father named Abdullah, meaning “slave of Allah”? If so, how this Allah came into existence before our Prophet was born? Was this the pagan moon god Allah which the people of Quraish in Arabia, revered and worshiped? How this idol moon god of the Arabs became the heavenly one God for Muslims?

9. Why the rights of a woman in the Muslim world are so weak?

In Islam, a woman can be beaten by her husband (Q:4:34); the Quran and Hadith give her no right to divorce her husband; her testimony in court is half the value of a man’s; her inheritance is half what her brother gets; and she cannot leave the house officially without her husband’s permission.

Under sharia law, for a violated woman to prove that she was raped, not committed adultery, she must produce four male witnesses. So, how can a woman prove that she was raped? Does rape happen in front of four men? Was there any incident in the world that four men came to the court and said they have witnessed the rape? How do we justify this law, cruel to women?

10. Why Muslim women must wear burka?

When our Holy Prophet died at the age of 63, Aisha was 18 years old and his other wives, except Sawda, were between 23 and 27 years of age. On his later years in life, probably when our Holy Prophet became sexually weak and was unable to satisfy his wives, he faced a serious problem of protecting his 12 young and beautiful wives from the lustful glance of others. Hence, he ordered his wives and also the concubines to cover them from head to toe. This burqa dress has become the symbol of ‘modesty’ for women in Islam today. Please remember that our Prophet’s first wife Kadhija never wore burqa. Today, half a billion Muslim women have to veil themselves, because our Prophet had devised this dress-code to cover for his sexual weakness (impotence).

Islam, the fastest-growing religion?

We Muslims proudly claim that Islam is the fastest-growing religion. Islam is not the fastest-growing religion in terms of conversion. Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani gave Aljazeera T.V. the following facts and figures: “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Every year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.” (note that even two professors and Imams of Egypt’s most prestigious Al Azhar University, Dr. Mustafa (now Mark Gabriel) and Dr. Mohammad Rahoumy (now Dr. Samuel Paul) have left Islam, because of the unacceptable teachings of the Koran.)

But Islam is certainly the fastest-breeding religion. If you can have up to four wives and take a lot of children without bothering about their future and well being, that’s what will happen. The population will increase fast, but your community will be poor with hunger, and lack of education and jobs.

Conclusion

My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, please do not treat this letter as an American or Jewish propaganda. We love you very much. Why? Because we were Muslims like you before. We want you to see the truth for your self. If you have any doubt about this letter ask, any educated Muslim, but not a Mullah, who will be angry with you. You may have heard this story. A young Muslim asked a Mullah:

“When Allah created Adam & Eve, that is one woman to one man, how is it that our Holy Prophet had more than 12 wives and allowed us to have 4 wives? Because of this, we Muslims are poor everywhere?” The Mullah slapped on his face and shouted: “Don’t ask questions: believe and obey what we say.”

The Mullahs want you to remain chained in the 7th-century Arab culture. When we, the ex-Muslims, studied Koran, Ahadith and Sira together, with a logical and analytical mind, we found that Islam was not what we were taught in childhood: Islam is the best religion and Prophet Muhammad was the finest man in history. In fact, the exact opposite is the truth. And we became heart broken; we felt depressed; shame, shock, guilt, and frustration. But eventually, we came through that difficult stage, and got enlightened and freedom from the shackles of Islam. However painful was the process, we came out strong, confident and happy. Believe us: only after we were out of the bounds of Islam, we realized that how great a feeling it is not to live a lie and to be free. Please look around the world on the TV, the Kaffir people in Northern Ireland, South Africa and Punjab have found peace and are pursuing higher education, prosperity and happiness. You all know that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (East Pakistan) got freedom on the night of 14 August 1947. The idol-worshiping Indians are progressing well and steadily toward a superpower nation, but Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, who follow “allegedly” the best religion and ‘greatest prophet and human being ever on earth’, are struggling to exist as nations. India is building 1,200 km fence to stop the hungry Muslims from crossing into India.

We the ex-Muslims will have no greater joy than seeing you – the Muslim brethren of our birth-religion – progress, prosper and excel in the race of civilization. For that to happen, leaving the false, backward, unjust and cruel religion of Islam and walking the path of truth and justice and loving humanity is essential.

May God bless you abundantly.

Yours truly,

Roman (An Ex-Muslim)

Anytime I read the phrase 'our Holy Prophet', I can't help but laugh and laugh. So funny that mohammed (hiss be upon him) is 'our Holy Prophet'.

Annunaki:
"there is no way a person can read the quoran and the biography of mohammed, believe in it and remain psychologically and mentally healthy"

Wafa_Sultan

This woman must be a Jew out there to tarnish the image of our beloved prophet (hiss be upon him). Our prophet mohammed never kill anyone, never fight anyone, never married a 6 year old girl when he was 51. Our beloved prophet is the embodiment of mercy who is greater than all other prophets and the last and the final prophets.

Islam will rule and conquer the world, insha halla. allahhu ache-head.

Annunaki:
Thanx for those video links, I thoroughly enjoyed watching them. The rate at which arab muslims are converting to Christianity is truly alarming though most of them are still covert christians because of islam's evil apotasy laws but with time they will gain enough numbers to hold their own and fight for the right to worship the true God.

Apostasy law sustains Islam.

facheux:
A pig digests whatever it eats rather quickly, in up to about four hours. During the digestive process, animals (including humans) get rid of excess toxins as well as other components of the food eaten that could be dangerous to health.

Since the pig’s digestive system operates rather basically, many of these toxins remain in their system to be stored in their more than adequate fatty tissues ready for our consumption.

Another issue with the pig is that it doesn’t have any sweat glands. Sweat glands are a tool the body uses to be rid of toxins. This leaves more toxins in the pig’s body.

When you consume pork meat, you too are getting all these toxins that weren’t eliminated from the pig.

Of the Aberhamic religions Christianity is the odd man out with regard to pig eating. Prophet Jesus peace be upon him never ate pigs.

And of course camel urine is safer than pork, according to mohammed ibn abdullah (slave of allahh).

facheux:
Pigs are garbage disposal units with feet. Not fit for consumption.

Christianity is the odd man out amongst the Aberhamic faiths on pig eating.

Jesus peace be upon him did not consume the flesh of the swine

Islam is not part of the Abrahamic faith. Stop legitimizing a religion formed by a shameless Arab pedofile.

kindredspirit:
Yet another installment in the riveting story of Prophet Muhammad. It has all the trappings of a major epic. Hopefully, sometime in the future, Islamic fundamentalists would have an open mind and allow somebody put the life and times of the Prophet on celluloid. It is guaranteed to be a blockbuster. Name it : Wars and conquests , slavery, sex, communion with heavenly beings, espionage, the murder / death of the protagonist and whodunit etc etc etc....... Intriguing stuff !

No matter the question marks about who caused his death , the Islamic prophet has cemented his place in history as one of the greatest men who ever lived, controversial or not. Nothing can diminish that.

I agree with you, the islamic prophet is one of the most influential man in world history. Hitler is a lightweight compared to mohammed.

Annunaki:
It will really be nice to see a movie on the life and death of mohamed especially from the Shia perspective but the cowards will never that to happen. However thank God for animated videos and the internet some short videos depicting mohamed's life are already online if you are looking for something to disgust you.

Last year the shia iran put up a propaganda film of the islamic prophet. The film portrayed him as a nice and gentle man who never hurt a fly. However the larger sunnis protested against the film and that was the end.

Dont really know if the film is on youtube. I will check and advise you on the site if they have not deleted it.

Annunaki:
This also betrays the pathetically low moral and ethical standards muslims have set for their religion. But I won't blame aisha though, she was a victim of child abuse and routinely molested whilst growing up. This could help explain why she conspired to kill mohamed and make up dis jointed stories to cover up her crime.

While muslims world-wide shamelessly celebrated the unacceptable marriage of a 51 year old mohammed to a 6 year old Aisha, they have forgotten the psychological and physical effect the marriage will have on Aisha.

2014 in kano, a muslim girl of 11 poisoned her 30+ 'husband', reason being that she was forced into marrying the man and that she was not prepared for the marriage. While this girl was sincere enough to confess to her crime, Aisha was not. Partly because she did not act alone, she might have been teleguided by some powerful sahadas to kill the islamic prophet.

The events that unfolded after the death of the islamic prophet showed that there might have been a coup against the islamic prophet by his aides and close associates among who are Abu Bakr and Omar.

Annunaki:
The shias are 100% muslims, the fact that you sunnis have a political power tussle with them does not take away the fact that they are followers of mohamed and his rightful heirs. If in your own words mohamed was healthy for the four years after taking the poison of the jewish woman, what then killed him suddenly four years later in aisha's arms Does that not buttress the fact that aisha knew more about his death? And the fact that she told lies in her hadith about the cause of his death suggests she is covering up something. The shias are most likely right in their allegation, it was aisha/abubarker that conspired to kill mohamed and cover up their crime.

Aisha and her father, like mohammed, are amazing genius to have deceived the muslim world and their lies are still being taught as true till date (mostly in sunni-dominated muslim countries). It take a bit of joining together her hadith narrations to confirm that she is a liar.

Amazingly, Aisha is the greatest, most honest and most respected woman in islam. Thats to tell you how an average muslim mind works, no questioning and critical analysis whatsoever.

[quote author=unphilaz post=43113998][/quote]If you consider the greatest benefactors of Mohammed's death, it was not his direct bloodlines but his in-laws. So you join the pieces together, you will get what I'm talking about. Recall that Mohammad did not hand over the mantle of leadership to anyone
before he died, Abu Bakr did not even consult Fatima before he declared himself a khalifa.

unphilaz:
hmm so christians now are forcing muslim to adhere to strict sharia and not the grace of God...

Did you read the transcript of the muslim man's response to the christian and non-muslim audience? What might seem an intelligent response to me might look unreasonable to you.

Dont follow the bangwagon without proper verifications.

facheux:
Let's compare to see how Prophets are treated in BibleOne is hard pressed to find a single prophet or messenger who was not a drunkard, an idolater, an adulterer, guilty of incest, a liar, and so forth. The Bible practically overflows with such stories . The messengers of God are even made to be guilty of multiple cases of adultery and worse. Abraham (pbuh) is alleged to be a liar and worse (Genesis 12:13). Noah (pbuh) a drunkard (Genesis 9:21). Lot (pbuh) a drunkard and guilty of incest (Genesis 19:30-38). Solomon (pbuh) a worshipper of idols in his old age (1 Kings 4-9), King David (pbuh) commits adultery with Uriah's wife and then murdered her husband (2 Samuel 11:3-4,15-18), David's son Ammon is guilty of incest and the rape of his half sister (2 Samuel 13:14). Aaron (pbuh) fashions an idol (the golden calf) for the Jews to worship (Exodus 32:1-4), to name but a very few of the many allegations to be found in the current Bible

Bros chill, cool down. Abraham, noah, solomon and david are not bible prophets. Can you show me a single verse in the bible where they were regarded as prophets?

The problem mohammed and muslims generally have is that any character in the bible you muslims will call a prophet. Amond the Jews, a political leader can never serve in the office of the prophethood. It is even crazy for muslims to also regard adam as a prophet, who did he prophecy to?

Prophets in the Bible are Elijah, Elisha, Samuel (also a judge), Hezekiah, Joel, Amos, Zachariah, malachi, hosea, moses, habakuk, isaiah.

Noah, Abraham, David and solomon are not regarded as prophets, though they are highly respected and regarded among the Jews. And note that thses peole are far more decent than your pedofile and criminal prophet mohammed.

truthmans2012:
One of the hadiths up there states Muhammad ate the poison but didn't swallow it. It is possible it had the effect of slow poison as he didn't actually swallow it. That made it possible for him to live up to four after the poison. Slow poison doesn't kill instantly.

@ truthman2012, long time. It is difficult to trust the narrations of Aisha completely. If all is well, there is no way Aisha and Fatimah will became mortal enemies as soon as Mohammed died. Note that Fatimah did not believe the narrations of Aisha concerning the cause of the death of her father.

If you consider the greatest benefactors of Mohammed's death, it was not his direct bloodlines but his in-laws. So you join the pieces together, you will get what I'm talking about. Recall that Mohammad did not hand over the mantle of leadership to anyone before he died, Abu Bakr did not even consult Fatima before he declared himself a khalifa.

Annunaki:
That means sunni islam was started by a conspiracy against mohamed and his family with mohamed being the first victim before the rest of his family was murdered by the sunnis. This is a real cruel joke on muslims who are being deceived into believing they are serving God by being muslims. Islam surely is the biggest and most successful scam in the history of mankind.

History had it that mohammed was close to his son-in-law, Ali, and also close to his daughter, fatimah, and loved his grandchildren so much. He'd a very high regard for them, even above his closest companions, Abu Bakr and Omar. It is only commonsensical that Mohammed would have handed over the leadership of the Muslim world to Ali if not the treasonous and treacherous behaviors of Abu bakr and his fellow bandits.

The truth is that Abu Bakr, Omar, Aisha and Hafsa are the prime suspects in the sudden death of the Islamic prophet. The supposed al-hadith narrated by Aisha, on the death of Mohammed, are both contradictory and ridiculous. I am not a fan of Mohammed (because his hands were soiled in blood) but that should not stop us from having a rational debate about him, vis-à-vis the true cause(s) of his death.

First, Aisha was neither a doctor, a nurse or a physician, why did she conclude that Mohammed died of poison?

Second, Aisha allegedd that mohammed took the poison 4-years ago. Did Mohammed complained of ill-health before his sudden death? No. Did he engage in war and many social activities within the four year period Aisha claimed he took the poison? Yes. Was there any report that Mohammed was on medical treatment within the four-year window period? No. So where did Aisha get the information that Mohammed still died of food poison? Perhaps from her father, who knows!

Third, though it is customary to bury Muslims the very day they die, however there are rooms for exceptions, especially if the cause of the death is suspicious. Why did Aisha and her father bury Mohammed hurriedly in the absence of his only daughter fatimah, in the absence of his son-in-law, Ali, who he also regarded as a son? Yaser Arafat's body was exhumed when there were suspicion that he was poisoned by the Israeli, why didnt Abu Bakr do a thorough investigation on Mohammed's body, I mean an autopsy, before the burial, to ascertain the true cause of his sudden death?

If all I's are dotted and all T's crossed, Abu Bakr and Omar`s hands may not be clean in the death of Mohammed, the Muslim's greatest man ever.

Annunaki:
This does not take away from the credible evidence we have on this thread that aisha killed mohamed on behalf of her father who became the first caliph of islam after the murder of mohamed. Of course we know the history of how the first five islamic caliphs were murdered by fellow muslims in their obsessive lust for power.

Isn't it ironic that islam's best man was murdered by islam's best woman and muslim are meant use both of them as examples? Bunch of jokers

Some truth are hard for Muslims to bear. Looking at this issue more critically, the first suspect in the sudden death of Mohammad is Aisha. Aisha have to claim innocence by pointing at the Jews, Muslim's eternal scapegoat. But with a little bit of investigation, it can easily be concluded that Abu bakr and Omar used their daughters to finish off Mohammed so as to climb to power immediately.

Fatimah, Mohammed's daughter, smelt foul play and refused to be loyal to Abu bakr and umar which lead to the death of her childish, Hassan and Hussein. Her husband, imam Ali, also died in the hand of fellow Muslims.

crusadistic:
He should be sunni.was is the point of your post/thread

To clear-up the controversy on how mohammed dies. Some crazy muslim fanatics are physically attacking Jews that they murdered the islamic prophet.

And again to expose the islamic dirty history which they dont want we kuffar to know.

facheux:
Christians do not discredit their prophethood for corruption and sin, yet they attempr to discredit the Prophet Muhammad for “eating poison”. Yet the biographies of Muhammad are clear that he lived for many years after consuming the poison. The Prophet displayed tremendous energy after eating the poison, showing that the poison had no effect on him. The Prophet detected the poison whereas the companions failed to detect it.

The Prophet lived for four years after the poison!

Once the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) was given food mixed with poison to eat. He who ate it first expired, but the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) lived for four years even after taking that food. That food told the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam): There is poison in me.

The Prophet showed tremendous energy before his death, the poison had no effect on him. When the Prophet conquered Mecca, he was fasting!

Read the post very well bro. Are you a shia or a sunni?

Who benefitted from the death of mohammed? The answer is Abu Bakr and Omar, the fathers of Aisha and Hafsa respectively.

It should be noted that mohammed did not hand over the khalifa on the muslim world to neither Abu Bakr nor Omar, but Abu Bakr, with the support of Omar, declared himself a Khalifa, or leader of the muslim ummah. Was mohammed's blood-line family in agreement with Abu Bakr's unilateral assumption of power without consulting them? No. The objected and felt betrayed by Abu Bakr and Omar.

The tension led to a sharp disagreement betweem Fatimah (mohammed's only surving child) and Abu Bakr. Fatimah taught that her husband, Imam Ali, should have naturally led the muslim ummah so that her children, Hassan and hussein, will naturally assume leadership of the then muslim world, but she was wrong. Abu Bakr and Omar had already agreed on a power sharing formula between themselves hence sidelined mohammed's blood from the leadeship of the muslim world.

After the death of Abu bakr, Omar took over and this further widened the gap between the Abu bakr faction and the fatimah faction.

After few years of power struggles between the aisha led sunni-muslim world and the Fatimah led shia-muslim world, mohammed's grandchildren were massacred by aisha-led army.

Hence going by what transpired before and immediately after the death of the islamic prophet mohammed, how can we conclude he died? In the hand of a Jewish woman (through poisoning) or was assisinated by Aisha with the help of Abu Bakr or Omar?

Thanks for reading.

As a continuation of the above narrative, this second part will focus on the Shia side of the story, on what\who killed mohammed.

The shia make up the minority among the larger muslim population. They represent roughly 10%-13% of the entire muslim population while the sunnis are between 87% to 90% of the muslim population.

On this matter, lets get the shia side of the story. The shia didnt believe that mohammed died of any poison from any Jewish womna. As a matter of fact, they believe that mohammed was murdered by his two wives, Ayeesha and Hafsa on the order of their fathers, Abu Bakr and Omar respectivley. The testimony given by the Shias is that mohammed was said to have died of the alleged poision 4 years eating the poision. How can that be, how can the prophet die of a poison he took after a 4 long years? So from the shias point of view, Aisha lied to cover-up her lie and evil plan against the islamic prophet mohammed. The shia also alleged that mohammed never had any health complain\problems between the 4 years Aisha said he took the poison and the time he suddenly died. As a matter of fact he was said to have participated in battles within those 4 years. How can a man suffering of food poisoning fight a 4-year battle?

And again, the shia claimed that if mohammed died of food poison, as Aisha claimed, that that will signify that mohammed was not a true prophet (which no true muslim will imagine or insinuate).
Besides, the shia considered some of the hadith that indicated that some of mohammed's followers did eat the poison and died, as being false and fabricated (it means that some hadiths seen as authentic by the sunnis can be false to the shia and vice-versa). They alleged that Aisha actually narrated those incident under a false premise and that they were false cooked up by her.

The shia also believed that Aisha was a terrible liar that can never be trusted. See the quran verse and hadith below:

Quran 66:4 described Aysha and Hafsa as sinful wrongdoers whose hearts deviated from the true path.

Al-Bukhari reported Aysha saying: "Allah's Prophet was eating honey at Zainab Bint Jahsh place. So Hafsa and I agreed to tell him, upon his return that he smelled of Maghafeer". (Sahih Al- Bukhari, Vol 6, Page 68. Maghafeer is a substance extracted from a tree. It has a sweet taste but very foul smell.).

Aysha knew that the mohammed had taken honey from his other wife, Zainab Bint Jahsh. Being jealous of her, she agreed with her friend, Hafsa, to hurt the mohammed by claiming that he smelled foul when he consumed that honey. Thereby, he would stop eating it, and consequently stop visiting his wife, Zainab. That was a lie. A woman, who would not abstain from lying to the islamic prophet, would not abstain from lying to ordinary people, either. Hence, according to the shia, Hadiths reported by her cannot be trusted.

Mohammed also accused ayeesha of leading a rebelion against him (see below):

Ahmed Ibn Hanbal and other famous scholars of Bakri Sect related: "The Prophet, (Peace be upon him), emeged from Aysha's room saying this is the spearhead of disbelief! It is from here that Satan's horn emerges"! (Musnad Ahmed, Vol II, Page 23). Hence, we the shia cannot trust her Hadiths.

So from the shia side of the argument, mohammed was actually assisinated by Aisha and she used the incident of the Jewish woman to cover her crime. And also note that non of mohammed's blood-related family was present during his burial

Who benefitted from the death of mohammed, Aisha's family or mohammed's family? The next post will give us a clue of the crime and the cover-ups.

It is not news that Ayeesha is a well respected woman in islam, especially among the sunni muslims. She is regarded as being intelligent, smart and lovely (among the muslim faithfuls). However it should be noted that this wonder 'mother' of islam engaged mohammed when she was 6 and the marriage was consumated when when became 9. Anyway thats another sensitive issue, the matter at hand is to discuss the mysterios death of mohammed in the hand of Ayeesha.

Many hadeeth narration pointed the death of mohammed to a poision administered by a Jewish woman who wanted to avenge the death of the people in the hand of the islamic prophet mohammed. Among the many hadeeths and the sunnah, below might be of help:

From Bukhari's Hadith 3.786: Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle.

From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."

From Ibn Sa'd page 249: Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you."

From Ibn Sa'd page 249: The apostle of Allah and his companions ate from it. It (goat) said: "I am poisoned." He [Muhammad] said to his Companions, "Hold you hands! because it has informed me that it is poisoned!" They withdrew their hands, but Bishr Ibn al-Bara expired. The apostle of Allah sent for her (Jewess) and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are a prophet, in that case it will not harm you and if you are a king, I shall relieve the people of you. He gave orders and she was put to death.

From Ibn Sa'd page 250: Verily a woman of the Jews of Khaibar presented poisoned (meat of) goat to the apostle of Allah. The he recognized that it was poisoned, so he sent for her and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I thought if you are a prophet, Allah will inform you, and if you are a pretender, I shall relieve people of you. When the apostle of Allah felt sick, he got himself "cupped".

From Ibn Sa'd pages 251, 252:....When the apostle of Allah conquered Khaibar and he had peace of mind, Zaynab Bint al-Harith the brother of Marhab, who was the spouse of Sallam Ibn Mishkam, inquired, "Which part of the goat is liked by Muhammad?" They said, "The foreleg." Then she slaughtered one from her goats and roasted it (the meat). Then she wanted a poison which could not fail. .... The apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the apostle of Allah said, "Hold back your hands! because this foreleg; ...informed me that it is poisoned. Thereupon Bishr said, "By Him who has made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from emitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food unrelishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong. Bishr did not rise form his seat but his color changed to that of "taylsan" (a green cloth)..........The apostle of Allah sent for Zaynab and said to her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "You have done to my people what you have done. You have killed my father, my uncle and my husband, so I said to myself, "If you are a prophet, the foreleg will inform you; and others have said, "If you are a king we will get rid of you.""...... The apostle of Allah lived after this three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away. During his illness he used to say, "I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several timyes (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein."

Tabari Volume 8, page 123, 124: When the messenger of God rested from his labor, Zaynab bt. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam, served him a roast sheep. She had asked what part of the sheep the messenger of God liked best and was told that it was the foreleg. So she loaded that part with poison, and she poisoned the rest of the sheep too. Then she brought it. When she set it before the messenger of God, he took the foreleg and chewed a bit of it, but he did not swallow it. With him was Bishr b. al-Bara b. Marur, who, like the messenger of God, took some of it; Bishr, however, swallowed it, while the messenger of God spat it out saying, "This bone informs me that it has been poisoned." He asked, "What led you to do this?" She said: "How you have afflicted my people is not hidden from you. So I said, "If he is a prophet, he will be informed; but if he is a king, I shall be rid of him"". The prophet forgave her. Bishr died of the food he had eaten.

Tabari Volume 8, page 124: [different narrator] The messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr had come in to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar."

Readers should note that the above instances are all according to the sunnis narratives (side of the story) on what led to the death of the prophet of allahh. However the next post will be the shia side of the story. The shia side of the story will help us get a clearer picture of the cause(s) of mohammed's death, the cover-ups and the what led to the eventual split of the muslim world into two major ideological camps, the SUNNIS and the SHIA.

Grab your pop-corn, sit back and read.

I guess the Pope is not a Christian too. The same pope that cannot condemn gay marriage and evil. This is the worst pope in the history of catholism.

lexiconkabir:
really? your alma mata is?

Sorry, there is a little I can disclose to strangers on a public forum, my username was actually my alias in school. It is one of the schools in the south west.

lexiconkabir:
Thats great Ma! I'm in my 3rd year now, studying pure and applied maths in university of Ilorin

I studied mathematics and statistics, but that wont stop me from exposing mohammed as a false prophet. Academically we are friends, mohammedically we will always disagree until you come to realize that he is an evil genius.