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hockeyoilers:
'Lord’ is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are called ‘Lord.’ For example:

1) property owners (Matt. 20:8
2) heads of households (Mark 13:35)
3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24)
4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6)
5) a son called his father Lord (Matt. 21:30)
6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26)
7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63)

‘Lord’ is not the same as ‘God.’ ‘Lord’ (the Greek word is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the Bible. If Jesus peace be upon him was God, then for the Bible to say he was ‘made’ Lord would make no sense.

Thats your own personal interpretation, you asked for where Jesus is called lord and I gave it to you, why are you making it more complex for yourself.

Can I address Jesus as 'lord'? Yes. Can I address mohammed as 'lord'? No. My response is based according to the christian scriptures which I believe in.

Matthew 12:8 ►'For the Son of Man (Jesus) is Lord of the Sabbath', do you know what this statement means?

I have no time in giving more bible verses that attested to the lordship of Jesus because you will only create more islamic and irrational argument on it.

VomeSchakleton:
ooh come on, you know i dont play this cat and mouse game anymore. lets catch up a bit, how have you been, how has the holy ghost been treating you jar jar

Thats not an answer to my simple question.

Banjoramos:
Slave trade,crusade,vietnam war, first and second world war, cause by Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)?

The arabs have been enslaving black hundreds of years before the europeans joined in the illicit trade. The arabs were simply following the example of mohammed (curse be upon him) in their wholesale enslavement of blacks. Mohammed (shitt be upon him) did not only enslave blacks, he also addressed them in a derogatory manner. See hadiths below:

Bukhari (Book #87, Hadith #161) Narrated ‘Abdullah: The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai’a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa).”

From sacred Islamic text, the biography of Muhammad, these words inspire racism and consequent slavery (Ishaq, p. 243): "I heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks...Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom." [9:61] "Jibril came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"

Mohammed compared his black slave Nabtal, to the devil. What an evil racist mohammed was! The greatest idiotts on earth are black muslims who defend mohammed, the greatest oppressor of their ancestors. In order for the arabs to compensate blacks for their evil, they lied that the first man to do islamic call to prayer was a blackman (with no single proof) and millions of foolish blacks will accept these lies hook, lines and sinker. No wonder we blacks are being ridiculed, even by the backward, uneducated and uncivilized arabs.

Some 120 million blacks perished in the Islamic slavery holocaust. 75% of blacks died on the way to market and those black men who survived were castrated by the Muslim overlords "based on the assumption that the blacks had an ungovernable sexual appetite."

VomeSchakleton:
looool! but jesus supported slaver while Muhammad (SAW) supported the abolishing of slavery, in fact a lot of the early followers of islam were slaves, like Bilal, a black man and the first person to call the adhan. like i said, hypocrisy and double standards, christians are hypocrites!!!!

Who between Jesus and mohammed was actively engaged is slave trade, according to the Bible, the quran and the ha-death? Did Jesus own any single slave? Did Jesus marry slave? Did mohammed capture, own and sell slaves? Was he fully engaged in slave trade or not? Did he marry slaves (whom his right hand possesed?

You sincere answers to these question will give you an insight into the foundation of arab slave trade and imperialism, especially in sub-sahara africa.

My last question to you, when did saudi arabia officially cancel slave trade and where was it written, in both the quran and the ha-death, that slave trade has been abolished?

VomeSchakleton:
Ayeeeeeee!!! Jar jar Binks! I've been asking about you!!! How've you been jar jar?

Hello Mr islamic apologetic who has no rational means of defending Islamic lies and deceit. Small question for you, is islam a religion, a race or a culture?

Banjoramos:
Some of the biggest misconceptions that many non-Muslims have about Islam have to do with the word “Allah“. For various reasons, many people have come to believe that Muslims worship a different God than Christians and Jews. This is totally false, since “ #‎Allah‬” is simply the #‎Arabic‬ word for “God” – and there is only One God. Let there be no doubt – Muslims worship the #‎God‬ of Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus – peace be upon them all. However, it is certainly true that #‎Jews‬, #‎Christians‬ and #‎Muslims‬ all have different concepts of Almighty God. For example, Muslims – like Jews – reject the Christian beliefs of the #‎Trinity‬ and the #‎Divine‬ Incarnation. This, however, doesn’t mean that each of these three religions worships a different God – because, as we have already said, there is only One True God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim to be “Abrahamic Faiths“, and all of them are also classified as “monotheistic“. However, #‎Islam‬ teaches that other #‎religions‬ have, in one way or another, distorted and nullified a pure and proper belief in Almighty God by neglecting His true teachings and mixing them with man-made ideas.

Liar without real facts, see below what your superman, mohammed ibn abdullah (peace be upon me) believed and preached:

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad (Karachi) p.553: …the Apostle of Allah said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.”

Bukhari Vol.4 Bk.52 No.176 Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah’s Apostle said,“You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)!There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”

Quran-5.60 “…[the Jews] whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made apes and swine, and who served the Shaitan…”

Quran-5:72 “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: “Allah is the Messiah … and the Fire will be his abode and for the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.” [Not only does this verse say Christians burn in hell, it also equates them to “polytheists”, thus negating their “special status” as “people of the book”.]

Quran-9.29 “Fight against those who … acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and know themselves subdued.”

Banjoramos:
where did Jesus (peace be upon him) called himself Lord?

The islamic question has shifted to 'where did Jesus call himself lord' from 'where did Jesus call himself ''the son of God'''. We are getting there. But I will help you, though I know you will still snakingly defend Islamic irrationality as always.

In Matthew 7:21 Jesus said and I quote: 'not everyone who call unto me ''lord lord'' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but the ones that does the will of my father who is in heaven'. What Jesus said here is that not everyone that called him 'LORD' will enter the kingdom of heaven meaning that many people will call him 'lord' but it is only the ones that are obedient to God that will make God's kingdom.

So bro, read the bible first before making your false claims.

plappville:
Jews ke? Oh No. I am talking about the terrorist Arabians. 80% of arab people who practice Islam are terrorist. My opinion

Islam is a religion of peace. I think the people that did the raping in Germany were 'Jews' but were shouting 'allahhu akubaruss' in order to implicate the muslims. I can tell you that no single muslim raped any woman in Germany, the rapist were all 'Jews'. Even prefect Mohammed (peace be upon me) never rape any woman. All the refugees in Germany are 'Jews'. Do you need a proof?

tartar9:
are you answering yourself or what?
punishing someone for his crime and punishing the persons entire family because they are related to the person(typical of your god) are two entirely different things so stop diverting the point I made.regarding the paris attacks,how would they be any different from the terrorists if they had attacked innocent Muslims(let's forget the millions of innocents they have killed on their so-called war on terror) after all the so-called terrorists also gave retaliation as reason for their attacks.

Collateral damage is part of the result of revenge. In the course of seeking revenge it is possible that it is not only the perpetrator that suffers, the family\society\nation can suffer the consequence of revenge. If you read the genesis of world war 1, you will understand that it was as a result of revenge.

I tell you, if not for revenge, the fight between the sunnis and the shia would have ended. Muslim world would not have been in the state of chaos as it is now.

tartar9:
was that his question?
only an evil being will go for revenge.

Fixed.

On the December 2015 islamic massacre in paris, the french government, using the media, ensured that innocent muslims are not attacked by the angry french population despite the fact that the killings were done in the name of allahh (which all muslims believe to be god).

Lack of forgiveness is the cause of the sunnis killing shias, and vice versa, till date hence made muslim nations the bloodiest nations on earth. Muslims keep killing themselves because allahh asked them not to forgive to to always seek justice for all evill done to them.

In the second world war, the japanese were nuked by the US but today they are both allies in international politics. Muslims should have a forgiving mindset, it is not always about seeking for justice.

orisa37:
Gays and lesbians of the world have finally torn the Anglican Church asunder. And have turned Muslims into sex maniacs all over Germany

Many Churches no longer use the Bible as a guide in their doctrine and conduct and the Anglican church is a big culprit here. The jugdement of God will surely start in the church and all evil Bishops will be punished. We are critical times when demons have taken over many churches.

Demmzy15:
When would the Christians of Burundi and South Sudan settle their Christ inspired dispute?!

Shia\sunni dispute was inspire by your criminal and booty-taking pedofile prophet.

Demmzy15:
If closing down the mosque is a way of curbing terrorism, I agree with it. Moreover, even Islamic Countries like Kuwait, Egypt and Saudi have all arrested violent preachers and closed down mosques promoting violence.

True2god I sight you, continue talking your nonsense!

Demmzy how far? When will Iran (shia) and saudi arabia (sunni) settle their mohammed-inspired dispute?

Thats fake conversion for free benefits. Why are they running away from Iran, algeria, morroco, afghanistan, egypt, sudan, and other lands where their god is allahh and mohammed is still his apostle? Why are they running to the land of the infidels, or kafir, why Jesus is claimed to be the 'son of God'?

I hope they wont inflict the spirit of allahh and his apostle, the islamic greatest man ever, on the innocent and good-hearted Germans.

vooks:
ha-death?
Funny if it were not tragic

Ha-death is the right spelling and not hadith.

Nadheer15:
Oponu, I raised my points now address them. From all indications you're truly a frustrated evangelist. Now lemme make this clear to you, you can criticise Islam but do it with sense, don't abuse or curse anyone because it doesn't make sense. So whatever abuses I hurled at you was because of your post. Hope you'll change!!!! Anyways, I'm sorry!

Negro-arab Izlamic 'scholar' kindly explain these statements from your prophet (peace be upon me);

Sahih al-Bukhari 6924—Muhammad said:“I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and whoever said La ilaha illahllah, Allah will save his property and his life from me.”
Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I
have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

haywhy911:
I want to assume you are typing in the heat of the moment. I will advice you to rest today and maybe tomorrow when the pressure has waned,come back to this thread and read through all posts with a clear mind. Look critically at all explanations (including yours).. Free your mind from prejudice and read.. Maybe then you'll notice how many times you have lied and how many times I and Demzy have repeated the same explanation....

If you had the link,why didn't you paste it earlier. You were 'brave' enough to COPY AND PASTE verses from the Qur'an which were neatly explained. You were also 'brave' enough to COPY AND PASTE a fake Hadith which you FALSELY claimed SAHIH.. I just don't understand why you can't paste fifteen out of your 'HISTORICALLY FACTUAL HUNDRED+ OFFENSIVE. Is it because you're scared that those OFFENSIVES are justifiable?? Demzy clearly explained this...


Anyway,I'm tired of this never-ending seesaw. Hold on to your faith.

"TO YOU BE YOUR RELIGION AND TO ME BE MINE" (SURATUL KAFIRUN V 6.)

Are you ok? See what you criminal prophet said:

Sahih al-Bukhari 6924—Muhammad said: “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and whoever said La ilaha illahllah, Allah will save his property and his life from me.”

Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

We have shown you quran verses (quran 8:39 and quran 9:29) that support the above hadith. The 'peaceful' quranic verses have been abrogated and replace by the violent verses.

Demmzy15:
Thank you brother, the Annunaki is just an empty barrel nothing upstairs. He actually had a former account which he registered in 2008(showing he's not a kid). Whatever you can reply just do and whatever stupidity you see just ignore.

The true2god guy is just a sadist, he's always never pleased about anything Islam. He always clash with many Nairaland Muslims and I especially don't like his posts. He raises some questions which are worth responding to, but he never does them in a respectful manner. He's a racist, tribalist and pathetic sadist!

Others include plappvile, pneumaticos(a tribalistic Yoruba Christian), truthman2012, basilico, malvisguy, OLAADEGBU, etc you'll soon see many of them.

The issue that malvisguy is raising as already been treated at this http://www.nairaland.com/2538115/examining-quran-9-29-islam They like repeating arguments which as been refuted countless of time, in fact Muslims had to create a thread for recycled topics.

All I can say is welcome to Anti-Islamic bigots, Nairaland Chapter!

If you like cry it won't change the obvious fact that Islam is the most violent and intolerant religion known to man. The evidence are so glaring that it takes only the deceptive, the deceived or the brainwashed not to see.

Mohammed called the christians and the Jews 'the worst of creatures' (quran 98:6) and to you it is not a big deal since he is the perfect examples for muslims to follow.

Mohammed asked muslims to keep fighting infidels until there is no more fitna, that is unbelief (quran 8:39), and to you mohammed is a perfect man.

Mohammed asked muslims to keep fighting christians and Jews until they pay jizya and feel humiliated (quran 9:29) and to you mohammed is a normal person.

Mohammed promised to expel the Jews and the christians from the arabia peninsula and to you he is not insane.

Mohammed asked muslims not to take Jews and christians as friends (quran 5:51) and to you he is not a mad man.

Hitler wrote a book called Meim kampf (in german) which in English means 'my struggles'. Meim kampf and quran are very similary because meim kampf was purely devoted to attacking the Jews only while the quran is devoted to attacking both the christians and the Jews. Both books are hate books.

Look into the hate in your quran and the hadith. Look into the arab imperialism in the hadith, quran and the sunnah of the islamic prophet. I have studied islam extensivel and come to realize that is pure evil and dangerous to man. Take a look at arab nations, for over 1400 years, you will understand the negetive effect of islam to the arabs.

In islam, if a girl is raped it is the girl that will be punished and the rapist freed. In a sane world, the rapist are jailed while the girl is compensated. In islam i can marry my first cousin while in my african culture it is a taboo considered as incest. In islam muslims are permitted to lie, to defend mohammed\muslims\islam, while lying is a serious crime in a sane world.

Look at what happen in Koln Germany last week, muslim refugees went on rampage raping and molesting white women. I mean new refugees running from an islamic-induced poverty in their countries and not even showing appreciation for German hospitality.

The list is long. Islam is a sick ideology.

haywhy911:
To true2god.

The 9:29 is clear.. Fight the unbelievers who fail to to pay Jizyah... And what's Jizyah? A tax paid by non muslims under the protection of muslims.. Failure to pay is a crime because it's a law.

The 9:30 is a different ball game. Different from the topic.. It has to do with supremacy of faith... That's not something I will argue because my attempts will be futile. And besides,the Qur'an states [109:6] "to you be your religion and to me my religion".

Thirdly,Prophet Muhammad didn't write a single word in the Qur'an. He was unlettered... The Qur'an is strictly Allah Almighty's.. I don't want us to deviate from the topic.


True2god,I like it when people stick to topics. This is not an interfaith debate. That's why all my points have been 'channeled through a muslim channel'.. [if you understand what I mean]. I'm not telling you to believe in Islam. I'm telling you that Muslims aren't terrorists as alleged and that NO VERSE supports terrorist acts. Simple!

Why are non-muslims under the protection of muslims in an islamic country? Does that mean that my life is at risk in a muslim land being a non-muslim?

Why are muslims not under a special 'protection' under non-muslim government in a non-muslim land?

haywhy911:
you're indirectly insulting me by insulting my belief.


I think you're civilised. Jizyah has been scrapped! You heard that right...why? Cos the world has changed. There's a now a different outlook to what is civil laws are.. You can google that.


I swear,I don't understand the emboldened. How can they get out when they are not independent? You want them to do a Biafra? Islam enjoins us to obey set laws. In Nigeria,the constitution is supreme. NIGERIA IS INDIVISIBLE. How can we obey God when we can't even obey earthly rules.


Last time I checked,Spain and France had heavy Islamic ties till the muslims WERE SENT OUT. There are many atheists and Jews out there in Europe.. More than you imagine. I have never heard of a Christian republic.

Saudi is an Islamic republic. Fulfill their conditions and you're welcome. You don't like the Jizyah payment yet you enjoy the Chinese ban. Talk about hypocrisy. Tsk tsk.

Did your prophet respect other people's belief (quran 9:30)? No.

Did mohammed ask muslims to physically attack others for their belief (quran 9;29)? Yes.

Did your prophet call the christians and Jews 'worst of creature' as a result of their beliefs (quran 98:6)? Yes.

So why are you annoyed that I 'insult' you insultive prophet? You muslims are hypocrites, you insult others and you want to be respected.

You said Jizya has been scrapped, who scrapped it and when was it scrapped? Can you provide any islamic source that say jizya must br scrapped?

Sokoto caliphate can separate from Nigeria if they wish, Nigeria is a product of British colonialism, it is not a naturally homogenous people, culture, religion and entity. The paskitanis separated from India sub-continent when they feared that the larger Hindu population will oppress the muslim minority. Pakistan is a good example for the sokoto caliphate and we christians will be happy if they choose to live under a happy and properous islamic caliphate. Are you afraid that sokoto caliphate will be poor if they leave Nigeria? No, allahh will provide for them in the islamic caliphate.

Islam in medieval france was as a result of the ottoman empire's\islam imperial ambition in western europe. The arab\turks declared war and defeated france and part hence lead of islamic occupation of spain (cordoba) and france for hundreds of years. The arabs\turks killed millions of europeans in order to establish islam in europe. So muslims being expelled from those countries is perfectly normal. Is spain and france part of the islamic sphere of influence or under the roman sphere? Dont be evil bro.

Saudi is an islamic republic because they chose to perpetually continue thier aparthied policy against non-muslims, including the shia and the ahmadis. Of course islamic republic of saudi barbarians do not believe in equal right, human right, right to practice any religion and right to leave your religion. Islamic republic of saudi arabia is the perfect utopia of the muslim caliphate where even their fellow muslims, like the shia, can be killed and massacred at will.

haywhy911:
you actually insulted me :\... Jizyah is a civil tax. Obviously,the world wasn't run the way it is now... The world was run based on religion and religious leaders where at the helm... I really don't know why you can't understand this... Sokoto is not an independent muslim Caliphate. It's under Nigeria and it's constitution. Mecca,then,was purely an Islamic state.. When did Europe become a christain owned continent? Perhaps,you haven't heard of Turkey. And for ur info,muslims are banned from performing religious obligations in China... So please

I am sorry, I never knew you were prefect Mohammed (peace be upon me).

You said the world was not run they way it is now, so are you telling me that allahh no longer want Muslims to collect jizya from us 'infidels'? How is the world run now, especially in Muslim nations? You said sokoto is not in independent Muslim caliphate, are Muslim expected to live under the law of the kafir or under the caliphate? What's stopping sokoto from declaring the caliphate? We non-muslims will happily wish the sokoto caliphate declare indepent from Nigeria so that Muslims in the caliphate can have a better life under islamic Shari'a.

Christianty was used to be the religion of the state in Europe and even now Christianity is still the unofficial religion in many part of Europe, except Turkey. I don't know if you have heard of the separation of the church and state (not mosque and state), in Europe and the US. I don't know if you have heard of the church of England (the british official or state church) because I never heard of the mosque of England yet.

As for China banning Islam , it is a good news and I want more countries to follow. Saudi arabia , the home of prefect Mohammed, banned the Jews and the Christians from entering Mecca for over 1400 years and the ban is still effective till date. So Mohammed is evil racist for banning people from entering certain part of the earth.

haywhy911:
As for the first verse,There's something called Jizyah in Muslim states or countries. It's a form of tax 'unbelievers' pay to ensure their security and freedom of religion. These are civil laws. For instance,I can't just move to America and expect to enjoy equal privileges of an American. So people who don't pay this tax face a penalty. Ever heard of tax evasion?


As for the second verse,it's stated clearly in the Qur'an that God has no 'begotten' son(s). Very blasphemous. That verse has nothing to do with ISIS. Where is the ISIS relation? Please,I'll advice u don't just browse the net for these things. I thought you had done background check. Do you even have a Qur'an? Don't just feed on abrogated verses from the internet. If you have a qur'an,check 2:190-193. Still waiting for the verses that support ISIS

I will not insult you by saying you are evil and stupid. Why must you charge me jizya because I do not believe in your pedofile prophet? Is Islam a religion or a race? My religious affiliation is by choice and not hereditary which means I can live in Nigeria and chose to be a Christian or a Muslim. If I choose to be a Christian in sokoto state, the seat of the caliphate in Nigeria, do you mean I will have to pay jizya to the sokoto caliphate so that Islamic touts or vigilantes will not attack me? Why must I pay a government for my security, in a Muslim dominated territory, while Muslim do not pay the same security tax? This further exposes Islam as a religion from demons.

Why don't Hindus charge Muslims jizya in India? Why don't bhudist charge Muslims jizya in China? Why don't Christian charge Muslims jizya in Europe? Why don't shintos charge Muslims jizya in Japan? My friend, islam-a-bad and rotten to the core. Islam is evil without redemption because their evil is codified in a document called the Koran. Do Muslims/Arabs have human conscious at all?

Annunaki:
Meanwhile muslims routinely make worse utterances against christianity in their useless mosques and no one prosecutes them.

Muslims are protected and endangered species in Europe and must be protected while current christians in Europe can go to hell. Muslims can curse Jews and christians in their mosques all over Europe but christians will be jailed for saying 'Islam is satanic'.

Gone are the days when christianity was the official religion of Europe, in the next 30 years, or so, the official religion will be islam. The good news is that when the cup of the atheist and liberal leaders (in europe), who are got supporters\promoters of islam, is full, they will all be dealth with and hanged for being traitors against their own people.

plappville:
Am not surprise at the acts of the Israelites.
I hope Merkel will not regret her actions on bringing in too much of them without proper screening.
These people are like hen. They will always display thier notorious character. It doesnt matter where they are.

Do you mean the allahh Akbar screaming Jews who see infidel women as fair game?

gimakon:
I wouldn't call him a prophet. He's not and will never be near a Prophet. His dark magic is what has blinded all of you. You slaughter yourselves by yourselves and even in the confusion, you still call him a prophet? What are you on about?

don't blame slyng, he had been programmed from childhood to view Mohammed as an OK person. Even if you open the hadith and the Quran to prove that Mohammed was a criminal, he won't accept cos the initial stress will be so much for him to bear. We will keep exposing Mohammed/allahh for who he is.

Annunaki:
No it's an al taquiya hadith

Muslims can cook up lies to justify mohammed\islam. Muslims said that mohammed 'predicted' the shia-sunni crisis but without any quranic verse or hadith narrations to back-up the claim. As a matter of fact, how will a religion leader predict that there will be bloodsheed among his followers? Mohammed didnt simply forsee this crisis.

And in another way, the shia-sunni crisis is good for we 'kafirs' because muslims will concentrate on killing themselves instead of non-muslims.

On international level, both saudi arabia (sunni leaders) and Iran (shia leaders) are the greatest sponsor of terrorism, madrassas (terrorist breeding ground) and mosque building (allahh's baracks) worldwide. Their fight is a good thing for world peace.

tartar9:
he sunni-shia crises has claimed more lives than any other war in history"
this nonsense you wrote is more than enough to convince anyone with a brain not to take serious any trash you say.
if he didn't predict the death of his grandson how does that rob him of his prophethood and how did you come to your conclusion that he never made any such prophecies?
that you are ignorant of something does not mean it doesn't exist.the divisions and crises that will face the Ummah is something that He(SAW) talked of numerous times as for the death of his grandchild there are also different hadith where He(SAW) saw it like this;
Narrated Muhammad bin Udaid, narrated Shurahbil bin Mudrik, from Abdullah bin Nujayy, and his father, that he traveled with Ali , and he used to carry his purifying water. When they were next to Nainawa on his way to Siffin, Ali called, “Be patient Oh Abu Abdillah (the kunya of his son al-Hussain), be patient Oh Abu Abdillah by the banks of the Euphrates. I [Nujayy] said, “what is this?”. He [Ali] said, “I entered upon the Prophet one day while his eyes were shedding tears. I said, 'what is it with yours eyes shedding tears?'. He said, 'Rather, Jibreel was here earlier and he told me that al-Hussain will be killed by the bank of the Euphrates and he [Jibreel] said 'do you want me to show you a sample from his soil [where he will be killed]?' and he[Jibreel] extended his hand and showed me so I couldn't help my eyes to fill with tears'”. [Recorded by Ahmad, vol. 1, p. 85.]

Is this a sahih hadith?

darknez:
That's exactly the challenge a lot of Christians have today. They change faith more times than a woman changes her panties.

Small wonder why a lot of them go about looking and acting very confused.

It is not a crime to change faith, it is a human being's unalienable fundamental human right. Only in islam that changing faith, or apostasy, is punishable by death. In saudi arabia, if a sunni change to shia he will be jailed or executed, despite the fact that both are islamic sects.

So it is not a crime, in a civil society, to change religion, but a crime in muslim countries. This is part of what makes islam evil and dangerous to man.

slyng:
Hello op, get some enlightenment. Dont write for the purpose of just writing. A good writer won't just trust a single source and u wont sound convincin to ur reader if ur arguements were just based on conjecture or out of ur bigotry nature as u ve shown now. Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) remains the most influential man(dead or living) on earth and will forever be. Before his demise, there exist a unified muslim ummah(no sunni/shi'ia or others). He told the muslims then that after i leave this world, 70 more muslim groups will spring up(making 71). He then warned that only one out of all will preach/follow the pristine islam. The muslims were worried and very inquisitive so as not to go astray but the prophet told them never to deviate from any of his teachings. So out of the 71 said by the prophet,i'm not sure we have up to 10 now. Most muslims today has deviated from the teachings of d prophet and that's y it is not logical to judge islam with one ill-actiön of a muslim or a sect. Islam is peace

Good! Can you please support your claim that 70 more islamic sect will spring up after the death of the islamic prophet, either with a quran or sahih hadith?

Your excuse that islam is peace is both disingenious and ridiculous. Mohammed's own grand-children, hassan and hussein (both were killed by the sunnis), fought bloody war to regain the legacy (or leadership) of their grand father and were both killed in their attempts. Do you understand islam more than mohammed's own grand children? If mohammed's grand children (incluing mohammed himself) fought series of battle to establish islam, why do you get the myth 'Islam is peace'?

You said mohammed is the most influentail person on earth, I agree. It is a positive or negetive influence? What is the result of his influence among the muslim ummah (especially the shia and the sunnis)? What are the consequence of his influence in the arab\muslim world? What are the result of his influence in the relationship between the muslims and the 'kufars'? Of course mohammed is a bad influence to humanity.

Join the pieces together and you will get what i mean.

Bible prophets are men of great predictions and prophecies, only because their prophecies are inspired by a divine power. I have no time listing biblical prophecies that had been fulfilled.

However, among all the known prophet is also the islamic prophet reverenced and respected by muslims worldwide (as their last and greatest prophet). But I am just curios, if mohammed was a prophet of God, why didn't he forsee the crisis that will engulf his religion (or the religion of allahh) after his death. I mean the crisis that claimed the life of his son-in-law, Ali, and his grandchildren (hassan and hussein). I mean the crisis that had lasted for over 1300 years between two main sects, the sunnis and the shias.

If mohammed could not forsee this crisis and pray for it not to happen, how can we trust his 'prophethood'? The shia\sunni crisis had claimed more life than any other war in human history, muslims killing muslims.

Currently all the sunnis world had line-up against shia Iran after the saudi killing of a leading shia leader and the aggressive Iranian move, would all these crisis ever happen if mohammed had not come with Islam? Is Islam a force of good and peace or a force of violent and wars?