Christianity Etc › Re: Sunni And Shia Crisis: A Test Of Mohammed Prophethood by true2god(op): 9:55am On Feb 07, 2016 |
asquare3: all criticism you islam haters on NL make we muslim only stronger in faith. and wether u like it or not islam will remain in the world as long as the earth remains. for over 1400 years has been waging war right? be deceiving yourself with the mass conversion of people to islam in the west. i no get time for much talk any ways
just take this read and digest it an old post but it comes in handy in situation like this
Christian bigotry and the accusation of Muslim terrorism: do to others as you’d want them to do to you ! Bigotry is always a problem and Islamophobic bigotry is perhaps the worst in contemporary times, the usual tirade against Muslims is that they’re all terrorists, killers, bloodsuckers and frigging terrorist!(Coming to mind also is the illogical statement : not every Muslim is a terrorist but all terrorist s are Muslims). However, the celebrations of the deaths of pilgrims in this year’s hajj probably showcases the extent of the hatred harbored by these individuals, I mean they celebrated the deaths of people simply because they were Muslims! Attempting to engage with these people especially on social media, as some Muslims have done, is ,in my view, not only wrong but misguided, individuals who gloat over peoples misfortune effectively put a question mark not only their upbringing but also on their humanity , animals, especially elephants, have been scientifically documented to show empathy when they pass by their dead. It is would also be wrong for one to generalize, since we had a fair share of (not only) Christians (but atheists) who sympathized and commiserated with Muslims, right in front of me as I type this, is the letter of condolence issued by the office of the bishop of Bedford, the right reverend Richard Atkinson OBE, commiserating with Muslims, and that’s why this article is directed to Christian bigots. The purpose of this article is not to respond to those who celebrated the hajj deaths, it is a short response to bigoted Christians who (irrespective of Muslim denunciation of the antics of ISIS, irrespective of the fact that all radicals or militants who carry out terrorist acts in the name of Islam don’t even represent 0.5 percent of Muslims) still believe all Muslims are terrorists. The Pew research center estimates the number of Muslims around the world at 1.6 billion, official CIA figures estimate ISIS fighters at 31,500, that’s 0.001969% 0f world Muslims ,yet all Muslims are not only to apologize on their behalf (according to Rupert Murdoch) ,but they are responsible for their actions! According to bigots terrorism is what the Qur’an actually teaches (according to Ben Carson, William lane Craig etc.) Really? So what does the bible teach? 1) Kill all those who do not worship (the Christian) God. They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. – 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 (NAB) 2) If a town is beginning to not worship God, kill them all! Oh – and burn it to the ground! Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” – Deuteronomy 13:13-19 (NLT) 3) Kill you own relatives if they try to lead you away from worshipping God. If anyone secretly entices you—even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend—saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” whom neither you nor your ancestors have known, any of the gods of the peoples that are around you, whether near you or far away from you, from one end of the earth to the other, you must not yield to or heed any such persons. Show them no pity or compassion and do not shield them. – Deuteronomy 13:6-8 (NRSV) 4) Not only is it okay to have slaves, you can beat them to near death as long as you don’t kill them. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. – Exodus 21:20-21 (NAB) 5) You can sell your daughter as a sex slave, just make sure everyone treats her a little better than other slaves. When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. – Exodus 21:7-8 (NRSV) 6) Spanking is probably good, but never rule out death. Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. – Exodus 21:15 (NAB) 7) The only penalty for unfaithfulness is death. If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. – Leviticus 20:10 (NLT)
Premarital sex is punishable by death! Well, for women. But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father’s house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst – Deuteronomy 22:20-21 (NAB) 9) It’s perfectly fine to rape an unmarried woman, but if you’re caught you must give her Dad 50 shekels and marry her. If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. – Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV) These quotations are really a summary (taken from Mark Sandlin’s blog) of the horrors that one can find in the bible, a particular shocking story is the destruction of the Amalekites ‘Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' 1 Samuel 15:3 Assuming the men are combatants what was the crime of the woman or the children or the ox, cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys? When you confront the bigots with these verses usually the response is : Well, you took the verses out of context! Whoa!? So, you believe the bible can be taken out of context? why not belief same for the Qur’anic verses you so often malign? Another response: Well, the bible had a progression from violence to non- violence While one may retort that Saint Paul had said ‘All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16)’ (And at this time the scriptures he was referring to was the Old Testament!) Or that Jesus had said: ‘For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot will pass the law till all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven’ While one can say that and more, the simple question to ask the bigot is did God sanction these killings? The answer: yes! And according to Christian theology Jesus is God? Yes! So the sugar- candy, gentle –meek –mild Christian God had once (or severally?) committed genocide (at least). Impressive? Right? Another response from Christ ians ,one with which they’ve used to blindside ignorant Muslims; who’ve neither studied their own religion, studied the Christian scriptures or even tried to be aware of current affairs; is to say: ‘Even if these verses are in the bible Christians have not worked with them and they’ve generally embraced peace’, Right? Wrong. Terribly wrong. Throughout history bigoted Christians had used these verses, especially the genocidal ones, to commit untold atrocities, in fact right from early on, around the fifth century, Saint Augustine used Luke 14:23 ‘…and the master said to the servant, go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in that my house may be filled (NKJV)’ to justify and legitimize the forced conversion of heretics to his version of orthodoxy. The colonization campaigns of Europe were legitimized with these verses as indigenous populations were simply turned to the Amalekites who deserved extermination, not to mention the Spanish inquisition, the crusades, the ku klux klan and the bombing of abortion clinics in the US! Philip Jenkins (a catholic turned Episcopalian), distinguished professor of history at Baylor university has studied this in detail and concluded: ‘the Islamic scriptures in the Qur’an were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the bible’ And these bigots claim ‘not every Muslim is a terrorist but every terrorist is a Muslim’, so what about the lord’s republican army (LRA) in Ugandan who has been advocating for the country to be ruled by the biblical Ten Commandments? What about the anti balaka militants in central Africa republic who have stated categorically and unequivocally their aim of exterminating all Muslims in CAR? Or Anders Breivik who slaughtered 77 people in Oslo in 2011 based on his anti -Muslim and pro Christian vision of Europe? Or another response that Muslims are all terrorist because they demand the sharia, so what about the far right Christians (especially in the republican party) who advocate theonomy (from theos (god) and nomos (law), which is the idea that Mosaic law should be observed by modern societies) and imbibe dominion theology (which is the idea that Christians should work towards either a nation governed by Christians or one governed by a conservative Christian understandings of biblical law) In fact the greatest atrocity of the 21st century, which can easily be laid on the feet of bigoted Christianity , is that George bush went to war (as reported by the Independent, the BBC and the Guardian newspapers) with Iraq because God told him to do so ,it is reported that every memo Donald Rumsfeld ( then secretary of defense) submitted to the president was headed by biblical verse , you would probably not believe that missiles and rifles used in Iraq had biblical verses etched on to them as George bush , who had become born again at 40, went to war with what he perceived as the land of ‘Gog and Magog’ (as instructed by the holy spirit). A war that its casualties count has reached approximately 4 million. Yet, every terrorists is a Muslim? The ISIS has been roundly condemned by Muslims and they’ve (Muslims) denounced ISIS’s modus operandi as unislamic and not qur’anical, let me add to it: The actions of ISIS is in fact biblical! ‘Deuteronomy 20:10-16 New International Version (NIV) When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby. However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. ’ Do you, as a Christian, feel indignation? Do you feel the verses of the bible have been snatched out of their contexts? Do you feel like screaming that the above is a misrepresentation of your religion? If so, sit down, relax and think: So do others feel when you deliberately malign their religion. Those who live in glass houses, of course, should not throw stones! Stop spamming bro. We need your input on the prophethood of Mohammed and the dual monster it created, the Sunnis and the shia. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sunni And Shia Crisis: A Test Of Mohammed Prophethood by true2god(op): 9:00am On Feb 07, 2016 |
Annunaki: Islam is such a cruel joke on muslims.  A religion built on killing and assisinations cannot be from God. The muslims want caliphate but they have forgotten that the 3rd khalifa was killed by the 4th khalifa to get to the throne. The 5th khalifa killed the 4th khalifa while the 6th khalifa killed the 5th to violently get to the throne of the islamic world leadership. Coup plottings and assisinations was the hallmark of early muslim leadership hence it cant be from God. Even here in Nigeria, the fulanis plotted and overthrew the indigenous hausa population to establish the sokoto caliphate, uthman dan fodio comes to mind. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Saudi Man Arrested For Selling Own Urine Instead Of Camel Urine by true2god(op): 8:44am On Feb 07, 2016 |
superior1: Drinking camel urine like Fanta .....yuck...gross As a muslim, drinking camel urine is far better than taking fanta. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Quran (koran)? Facts About Quran by true2god: 4:42pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Annunaki: The proof is in your sahih hadiths or do you want me to quote it here so everyone can confirm that your 'prophet' has no honour in him. Sahih Bhukhari and Sahih Muslim (the 2 most authentic hadith) have really exposed the mohammed as a big criminal, liar and a thief. Most muslim apologist have resorted to denying many hadiths as fabricated or weak, a straw-man's excuse, and yet all the hadiths (weak, strong or fabricated) are still in all islamic library in saudi arabia. Who are the muslims deceiving? The internet age is the death of islam, no more encryption of allahh's coded messaged in the quran and the ha-death. All the shaddy and evil deed of mohammed (death be upon him) must be exposed, and saudi arabia (the owner of allahh) must also be exposed. Seriosly, the arabs are like of evil geniuses. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 4:27pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
truthman2012: You must be an intelligent historian. Keep it up !!! Thanks man, we wont get tired of exposing the arabian beast, that is ISLAM. |
Islam › Re: Muslims Copied Ablution From The Bible by true2god: 4:16pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: I thought the Bible says no man has seen God John 6:46, No one has seen the Father except the one (Jesus) who is from God; only he has seen the Father. Do you believe Jesus calling God his father? Do you believe God and Jesus are one (John 10: 30-33)? |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 4:05pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: Christian God dies , needs rest. Sounds weak. You have not told us what makes islam stand out, we need your list. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 10:45am On Feb 06, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: And also true2god, Muhammad who you accuse of hating blacks had some blacks as his companions, can you point out one companion of "your lord and saviour" that was a gentile? if you cannot then he actually called them DOGS in the real sense. When did slaves become companions? Mohammed had hundreds of blacks slave who he always call 'raisin heads' and a heart as 'a donkey'. They are well documented in your ha-deaths. One problem you muslims have is that anytime your prophet is exposed, either as a criminal or a racist, you try to justify his evil by looking at a similar event in the bible to justify his evil. Thats not a reasonable way to argue. Muslims believe in their fake Jesus in the quran while christians view mohammed as a criminal as an warlord, all recorded in the quran and the ha-death. Evil quranic fake Jesus was portrayed in the best light while your criminal prophet mohammed was in a bad light, in your own quran, yet you fail to see it. Jesus perhaps had no contact with blacks during his days while mohammed came in contact with black either through caravan raid, war or slave trade. Fyi, the blacks had always been in contacts with the arabs for thousands of years. Egypt was owned by the black african nubia tribe before the arabs-muslims destoyed egypt and its great civilizations. Northern Sudan was owned by 100% blacks before the arabs invaded and drove the blacks downward to Niger and mali. Arab-muslims had been killing, collectin their ancestral lands and enslaving blacks by following sunnah of the islamic prophet mohammed (death be upon him). Who are the original occupants of egypt, the Nubians or the arabs? |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 8:00am On Feb 06, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: analice107 you see a christian like you indirectly insulting you? mr true2god i dont need your hadith, as it has been refuted countless times, what more can you say about Muhammad who said "an arab is equal to a non-arab, a white is equal to a black et al, but you can only surpass each other by the deeds you perform" compare this statement of Muhammad with that of your lord and saviour who called the gentiles DOGS!!!  Are you now denying your hadith or are you also a 'quran-only' muslim? On Jesus' statement, it was a general proverb then that 'you dont give food meant for your children to the dogs'? It makes no practical sense throwing away you children's food to the dogs while your own children go hungry. You need to comprehend and understand the reasons for that proverb. |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 7:17am On Feb 06, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Shield Christians From Al Shabab Scum by true2god: 7:11am On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: 2 Kings 6:26-29
As the king of Israel was passing by on the wall, a woman cried to him, "Help me, my lord the king!"
The king replied, "If the Lord does not help you, where can I get help for you? From the threshing floor? From the winepress?" Then he asked her, "What's the matter?"
She answered, "This woman said to me, 'Give up your son so we may eat him today, and tomorrow we'll eat my son.' So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
Jeremiah 19:9 (also Ezek 5:10)
I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them by the enemies who seek their lives That is a punishment on Judah for disobedient, war and hunger, such that they will have to eat human flesh to survive the hunger of the siege of their war-time enemies. During the second world war, the russians were so starved that they resorted to eating some of their dead for survival. During the biafran war, some biafrans did it too. The verses you quoted was a prophesy\prediction of what will happen to the Jews when their enemies lay siege and battle them and not an instruction by their God. Don't be a mischeivous islamist (sorry all true islamists are mischievous). Hope you wont go one day blow up a shia mosque (if you are a sunni). Please can you show me where Jesus commanded, practiced or encouraged cannibanism. Remember that we christians are to model our lives after Jesus and muslims are to model their lives after mohammed (death be upon him). |
Islam › Re: Women Prove Islam Wrong by true2god: 6:55am On Feb 06, 2016 |
Dude I'm not a muslim Stop criticizing other people's religion...
just look at your threads 90% of em is bout islam. You no dey tire?! Why don't you leave em be? Maybe you tell that to mohammed (death be upon him) who championed the criticism of other people's religion and even sanctioned threat and death against an opposing view (quran 9:29) |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 6:41am On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: I hope you're getting enough fibre in your diet after that tripe. Thats an unintelligent response. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Shield Christians From Al Shabab Scum by true2god: 6:38am On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: Let's use your criteria
What instructions of the Bible are Christian cannibals using in Central African Republic? What do you mean by christian cannibal? Is that a new Islamic invention? Where do you see christian cannibal in the bible or among the follower of Jesus in the bible? |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 6:34am On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: I cannot take anyone seriously that worships a man , a man who prayed to Allah , a man who cannot answer when the day of judgment is. In my opinion anyone who worships anything but the creator is 100% in a state of kuffur If i believe in one God of israel without believing in allahh and his apostle am i still a kufar? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Shield Christians From Al Shabab Scum by true2god: 6:29am On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/africa/kenya-bus-attack-al-shabaab-muslim-christians/index.html
It warms my heart to see such compassion in the face of evil. I think any decent person would do the same regardless of their faith. I never heard of 'christians shield muslims from christian terrorist'. I never heard of 'hindus shield muslims from hindu terrorists'. I never heard of 'jews shield muslims from jewish terrorist'. I have heard on many occasions 'muslims shield christians from islamic terrorists'? How is this a good news about islam? It is only exposing the evil in your religion. Islamic terrorist are simply following the instructions of mohammed in quran 9:29. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 6:10am On Feb 06, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: Brother here in Canada the greatest migration to this country was Christian Europeans. Hence why still 23% of us either speak French or have french surnames. Then came the Ukrainian , Germans , and Russians Romania etc.
You realize the 2 world wars were started by Christians , same ones that took slaves from Nigeria. It was Christian Europe killing the 6 million jews , not boko haram Islamic snake and propagandist. When you have a bad report on europe they become 'christian europe' but when you want to report the shameless migration of muslim destitutes to europe you will say 'europe is not a religious country', 'europeans are atheist', 'churches are turning to mosques', etc. Can you see you are a shameless hypocrite? Which religion started the islamic shia\sunnis war that had killed millions for over 1400 years? Christian europeans? Which religion massacred the indian hindus (over 150 million killed) and lead the creation of pakistan from india? Christian europe? Which religion led a futile military invasion of europe that led to the death of millions of people and the formation of crusade to save europe from muslim barbarians? Christian europe? Before world war 2, hundreds of millions had died in the hand of muslim invaders. The 2nd world war was an attempt by the germans to avenge their loss in the world war 1 and not a religious was to impose christianity on the whole world. The shia\sunnis war of 1400 is an islamic war going on till date. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Six Point That Prove Muslim Are Not Terorrist. by true2god: 12:18pm On Feb 05, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: I don't think it takes an intellectual giant too see terrorism isn't restricted to one race , religion, or group. The Rwanda 500 000 - 1 000 000 murdered, was in a country 90% Christian. So there is a christian country? |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 4:44pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Akkord4gov: I so much like where you said Muslim nations will remain poor and where you are just countering yourself,saying the West practice Christianity and later said"the West,though not religious doesn't recognise Islam as there religion  Your ignorance is just a tonic for me and I don't see any reason where I will be ashamed of my religion. I worshipped Allah and any Muslims who don't follow the words of Allah's prophets can never be referred to as a Muslim,Jesus included .I would have been going to church too if there is any evidence that Jesus went to church,i would have been clapping and singing too if there are evidences that Jesus did the same,but Jesus worshipped God putting his head on the ground,the same way I am worshipping Allah, and Jesus also washed his hands and feet before worshipping his God(the same way I do my ablution) etc. Who is now the follower of Jesus. Very very disgusting when you can call a pastor who rape as a fake pastor but cannot call a Muslim who bomb as a fake Muslim. Is that not hypocrisy of the highest order It seems you lack comprehension skill. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 3:59pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
YourMain: Lol.
When Muslims move to USA and Canada, which aren't Christian countries they move in search of greener pastures. Because their educational system is better. Their healthcare system is better. Their chances of getting a good job is higher. They can live a better life. Regardless of religion, why wouldn't they move ?
And these " Christian " countries you've mentioned are not even religious at all. I don't know how you can call UK or Germany or France religious. Stop being fooled by what they show you. And we all know Christmas and Easter and 99% of all "religious" celebrations are pagan not Christian.
And moving from Saudi Arabia to UK doesn't stop you from practicing your religion. You can still be a great Muslim in the UK.
And also part of what Muslims do here is to spread Islam. If they stayed in Saudi or Iraq where everyone's Muslim how will get spread their religion. And they've been very successful. Islam has had the one of highest conversion rate even after actually especially after all the commotion with the religion.
As for all the wars. All you need to do is open a history book to see what actually happened.
Educate yourselves!!! You called easter and christman a pagan celebration, what do you call hajj, throwing stone at meccan devil, running aroung the kabba etc? What do you call eid maloud, eid fitr and other arabian pagan and idol celebrations? Fya, the official religion in the UK is the anglican, the church of england. The official religion in italy is roman catholic, the official religion in the US remains the evangelical christian church, the official religion in germany is catholic while the current german govt is called the christian democrats. I understand the muslims, you guys take freedom of these countries for weakness. They allow you guys to freely practice your faith, as your fundamental human right, while muslim countries kill and attack non-muslim minorities. This is why muslims are called all sort of names by the media: radicals, extremist, fundamentalists, jihadists, islamists and terrorist. Muslims will seek for space to built mosques in europe and america while the will be bombing churches in their countries. You guys are devils you know. And this is one of the reasons why muslim nations will ramain poor and will continue to run to those countries with Judeo-christian principles. In the west, we have the separation of the church and the state, not the separation of the mosque and the states. The separation of the church and the state means that the countries recognize two bodies that form the society, the church (the religious angle) and the state (the non-theocratic political angle. The west, though not religious, do not recognize islam as their religion. All there laws and society are modelled after the judeo-christian principles. You muslim like hostile take-over of non-muslim society hence building mosque as a foundation of future arabian take over. And you knw what, alsmost all western nations are currently against building of new mosque on their soils and any mosque where terrorist or islamic hate preachers operate are to be closed down. Most western countries are putting cctv cameras in mosque to monitor muslims more closely. No cctv camera in churches, hindu shrine, jewish synagoues etc, but only mosques. You muslims should be ashamed of yourselves. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 3:34pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
YourMain: Lol.
When Muslims move to USA and Canada, which aren't Christian countries they move in search of greener pastures. Because their educational system is better. Their healthcare system is better. Their chances of getting a good job is higher. They can live a better life. Regardless of religion, why wouldn't they move ?
And these " Christian " countries you've mentioned are not even religious at all. I don't know how you can call UK or Germany or France religious. Stop being fooled by what they show you. And we all know Christmas and Easter and 99% of all "religious" celebrations are pagan not Christian.
And moving from Saudi Arabia to UK doesn't stop you from practicing your religion. You can still be a great Muslim in the UK.
And also part of what Muslims do here is to spread Islam. If they stayed in Saudi or Iraq where everyone's Muslim how will get spread their religion. And they've been very successful. Islam has had the one of highest conversion rate even after actually especially after all the commotion with the religion.
As for all the wars. All you need to do is open a history book to see what actually happened.
Educate yourselves!!! Muslims taking advantage of the good-hearted non-muslims in order to expoit them and spread arab racism and imperialism. Saudi arabia killing apostates but spending billions to build madrassas worldwide, especially in non-muslim countries. Your type are the reasons the western countries now view muslims as criminals and terrorists. Back to memory lane, muslims attempted to forcefully conquer europe for allahh but were beaten and expelled from the old western countries. The western power took time to invest in knowlegde thereby becoming so rich, the muslims moving in to europe to reap where they never sow with the aim of conquering them in the future, which had always been the dreams of mohammed, the khalifas and the turkish sultans. And you know what, just as allahh couldnt save the muslims from being expelled from europe then, allahh wont still save arabs\muslims when the anger on the street of europe get to the boiling points against islamic nuisance whose wicked intents had already being to subjugate europe. And you know what, we have hindus, budist etc, living peacefully in europe and america but none is giving them headache and terrorism but only muslims. With time muslims\arabs will soon be expelled again because they will never change from their stupidity and imperial nature. Let allahh, arabian demon, keep deceiving you and other muslims who think they are going to the west for a future take-over (what you call conversions). |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 3:19pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
truthman2012: Jesus akbar !!! This got me laughing. Islamic terrorist wont like this. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 6:20pm On Feb 03, 2016 |
truthman2012: You said some migrate for economic reasons. Why do muslims migrate to Christian countries and not islamic countries for economic reasons? Why are islamic countries not developed since their independence ? There can be no development when there is no peace. I wonder why you did find out the cause of unending crisis in islamic nations. While western nations are doing scientific research and development on a daily basis, muslim nations are building madrassas and packing useless quran and hadith into the heads of their kids, primarily to hate the infidels. Hence an average muslim nation is built on hate, from childhood, against the infidels (especially Jews and christians, muslims and allahh's eternal enemies). How can a nation develop when millions of people are wasting billions of minutes on a yearly basis studying 'the science of the quran and the hadith'. The science that produces poverty and frustrated youths from north africa to pakistan. Youths that are ready to blow up themselves to escape earthly poverty for 72 virgins in islamic heaven. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 3:07pm On Feb 03, 2016 |
Newnas: BISMILLAH
this is the second of this guy's posts that I'm reading, and the ignorance in them is unbearable.
firstly, Us, Canada etc are not Christian countries, they don't believe in any God. Maybe everyone that is not a Muslim is a Christian?!!! Tell me what makes them Christian countries. It's the same ignorance you have that has made many Christians in Nigeria think that Israel is a Christian country and they love Christians. unfortunately for you all the JEWS call your 'lord' Jesus a bastard child of promiscuity committed by his mother Mary but the ignorance in you all is bad. Your Bible can't guide a Nation because it has no constitution! Secondly, the Muslim nations are in turmoil because they deserted the true guidance for western methodology and this has caused them misfortune, is it not their fight for democracy and 'freedom'that got them where they are today?! This has already been prophesied by our messenger -alyhissolaat wassalaam - and the solution is that they repent and return to the pristine Islam. Don't you see that the nations that adhere to the correct principles are in peace such as Saudi Arabia. And I can tell you that there is no nation in the world that it's citizens enjoy like Saudi, Kuwait etc Even in Nigeria, the north was the calmest and easiest part of country until they deviated and the result is what you have. please OP save people stress and time of writing retort to your flimsy and ignorant claims. AlhamduliLlah. Why are muslims not moving to saudi arabia and kuwait but to the US, Britain, Germany and canada. You said those countries are not christian countries, that BS. Those countries are founded on Judeo-christian principles and all their leaders are professing christians (including the muslim lying obama). In the UK, the US, Germany, France etc, the official religion, holidays and celebration are still based on Judeo-christian beliefs, like the new year, christmas, easter etc. The dont belief in your islamic holidays. In Germany the ruling party is the christian democrat, what does that indicate? The christian world is now so liberal that they no longer view religion as a do or die affair, unlike the arabs who still use islam as an agent for conquering the infidels and non-muslim lands. Fya, saudi arabia, kuwait, qatar, uae are rich muslim countries because they have a large deposit of oil and gas. The same oil and gas are being tapped by infidels, left for the muslims nothing like oil and gas. Without oil (or before oil was discovered in SA) saudi arabia is just like yemen, sudan or afghanistan. Stop making assertion like a beer-parlour professor. |
Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Rush To Christian Countries Rather Than Islamic Countries? by true2god: 2:42pm On Feb 03, 2016 |
truthman2012: Muslims rush to US, Canada, Britain,,France, etc in search of greener pasture. But they don't go to Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Afganistan, not even Saudi Arabia, their beloved ''prophet's'' own country. If the those Christian countries had been run islamically, will muslims be able to go there?
None of the islamic countries are in peace today for any muslims to go looking for a better life. Even in Nigeria, the Norther part where they are in majority are not having peace. Allahh is incapable of holding his faithfuls to live in peace. What a god!!!
The Bible says there is no peace for the wicked (Isaiah 48:22). They are going to non-islam countries to collect their jizya from the infidels (quran 9:29). Yoruba people will call it 'owo igboro' or free public money. Muslims in the non-muslim countries are collecting their extortion money, that is jizya, from the infidels in form of free housing, free food, free medicare, pocket money etc. Over 75% of muslims in the western countries do not work to support themselves and their families. But they must f$%kk to produce more jihadist for allahhh. allahh akbarrrrrrr! |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 12:30pm On Feb 03, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Things That Stand Islam Out by true2god: 10:54am On Feb 03, 2016 |
Annunaki: 11) it is the only religion that breeds terrorists and forces it demonic beliefs on others. 12) it is the only religion were it's adherents are encouraged to lie to further the cause of the religion. (kitman and al taquiya) 13) it is the only religion were the founder was a rapist, armed robber, murderer, philanderer and paedophile. 14) it is the only religion that was spread by violence as instructed in it's 'holy'. Book. 15) it is the only religion that kills apostates. 16) It is the only religion where the rival faction (the sunnis) beheaded the grandson of the founder (mohammed) for politico-religious reasons. 17) It is the only religion\culture that permits first cousin marriage (especially among the arabs and the pakistanis) because mohammed did it. 18) It is the only religion that endorsed subjugation and extortion of non-muslims (quran 9:29) 19) It is the only religion that allow marriage to girls who never had mensuration (quran 65:4) 20) It is the only religion started the whosesale enslavement of blacks among the arab population. The only religion whose founder own many blacks slaves and describe some of them as 'raisin head' or coconut heads. According to the islamic prophet, seeing a black woman in a dream is a bad omen. See hadith below: Bukhari (Book #87, Hadith #161) Narrated ‘Abdullah: The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai’a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa).” |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Forgiveness Of Muhammad Shown To Non-muslims by true2god: 2:23pm On Feb 02, 2016 |
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read the verse in context Which context? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Churches Turned Into Mosques by true2god: 6:20am On Feb 02, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: The real question is what is causing Christians to abondon their religion and stop attending Church. For if this wasn't the case , we wouldn't be seeing Churches being turned into Mosques. Christians are not abandoming their faith bro. The west is now open to liberalism and materialism than religion or spirituality. The west, mostly the europeans, do not care much about religion hence they do not kill each other for the sake of religion. On the other hand the muslims\arabs still view islam as a tool for supremacy and global conquest. Hence any muslim that leaves islam will be killed, especially in saudi arabia and iran. That is why the ahmadiyyas are not allowed in mecca for being infidels. That is why is sunnis are bombing the shia mosque on a daily basis. Thats is why the saudis and the iranians would rather help a country to build mosques and madrassas than hospitals, electricity, good road, power dam, farming tools, etc. Thats is why muslims can no longer stay in their countries but will be running to europe, the land of the infidels, for them to have a better life. That is why muslim countries are rated are the poorest on earth. That is why muslims are regarded as the least educated on earth. So many churches in europe open their doors for islamic prayers, muslims will not appreciate or reciprocate but will see it as another victory for their idol called allahh. The europeans have now realized arab\muslim criminality hence both individuals and govt have stopped selling old and unused churches and to muslims. And fyi, the growth of islam in the west is completely due to migration of arabs and pakistanis to europe and nothing more. Stop living in delusion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Boko Haram Is Unislamic by true2god: 5:21am On Feb 02, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: Al-Azhar
... Sunni Islam’s foremost authority, Egypt’s Al-Azhar Mosque, has condemned the activities of Boko Haram as un-Islamic and demanded the immediate release of at least 180 school girls abducted by the group on 15 April.
In a statement issued on 6 May, Al-Azhar said: “this action does not relate to the noble teachings of Islam in any way.” Given that it is one of the oldest Sunni institutions and is highly respected throughout the Islamic world and particularly in Africa, Al-Azhar’s intervention constitutes an authoritative and significant riposte to Boko Haram’s claims of divine sanction.
CAIR
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, today condemned as “un-Islamic and obscene” the kidnapping and threat to “sell” more than 200 Nigerian schoolgirls by the terror group Boko Haram. In its statement, CAIR said:
“It is almost impossible to express the level of disgust felt by American Muslims at the un-Islamic and obscene actions of the terrorist group Boko Haram for the kidnapping and threat to ‘sell’ hundreds of Nigerian schoolgirls. We urge authorities in Nigeria and throughout the region to do everything they can to return the girls safely to their families and to eliminate the threat to peace and security posed by Boko Haram.”
CAIR also renewed its condemnation of Boko Haram’s decade-long campaign of violence and intimidation targeting Christians and Muslims. In 2011, CAIR condemned bomb attacks on churches in Nigeria that left at least 35 people dead and many more injured.
The Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI)
MUI has condemned the kidnapping of more than 200 schoolgirls in Nigeria by Boko Haram and demanded the group release them.
“[Boko Haram] is not on the right path and contradicts Islamic values,” the chairman of MUI Din Syamsuddin said in Jakarta on Monday, as quoted by Kompas.com. Fake white man, can you please tell me what boko haram is doing that is different from what mohammed did? |