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Celebrities › Re: My Fiance Has Covered My Shame - Comedian Princess Is Getting Married by true2god: 1:08pm On Apr 20, 2013
Scarpon: I like this woman she is funny
I neva knw she is already a woman, tot she was a lady.
Celebrities › Re: Tee Billz Saved And Paid For My Kelekele Video - Tiwa Savage by true2god: 1:02pm On Apr 20, 2013
Kzinne: yoruba women and their culture of depending on men
Im not yoruba but u just yarn trash. Wetin u write no tally at all with wetin dey ground.
Politics › Re: 2015: We’ll Push Out PDP –buhari, Tinubu by true2god: 10:01am On Apr 20, 2013
Gbawe: Learn to spell first. Silly illiterate. People like you shame our education system. Rather than address your own deficiency you are always here in hatred of those who are far better than the demons you support. Olodo.
Mr wole-soyinka achebe, at least u understand the message he was tryin 2 pass acros. Stop being childish plzzz.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Saudi Arabia Deports ‘irresistible’ Men Deemed ‘too Handsome’ To Women by true2god: 6:31am On Apr 18, 2013
[quote author=Galaxy.Note.II]Yoruba men, please come back home tongue[/quote]Yoruba men are very qualified to live in saudi.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Saudi Arabia Deports ‘irresistible’ Men Deemed ‘too Handsome’ To Women by true2god: 6:26am On Apr 18, 2013
It seems it is unislamic to be handsome.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 7:01pm On Apr 16, 2013
frosbel: No wonder Nigeria is in an abject mess, if these are the calibre of Christians left we are almost doomed, but I know God has reserved a few who have not bowed the knee to baal.

Bidam is a true reflection of all that is wrong with the Nigeria brand of Christianity, seeped deep in biblical malpractices, cannot properly divide the word of God, will not debate with facts, rather chooses blind faith and tradition, dumps reason and logic in favour of irrational beliefs etc.

One in his team, in the same article, talked about demons drinking blood while belonging to a church that spends 90% of their efforts on chasing perceived enemies, including witches, demons, wizards, monsters and all manner of creatures.

Tell me, how can these people who rely on the whims and caprices of men, ever come to a knowledge of the truth?
To start with, which church/assembly/congregation are u identified with? Who is ur role model in this contemporary christian era? Having noticed the 'mess' in christianity in naija, do u have a ministry dat attempt to set things staright? Jesus called the pharisee, 'wolves in sheep clothings'.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 2:47pm On Apr 16, 2013
Pygru: Frobel is very deceptive!
1. Editing posts.
2. He makes it hard for others to quote his posts sometimes.
R u just aware?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 9:15pm On Apr 14, 2013
ijawkid: True2God na we dey the creeks dey do the oil bunkary na...cheesy..............after tapping the oil I still do have time to come on nairaland to chat with y'all......cheesy
Dats great, so u run an 'independent' oil firm and still hav time to obtain a degree. U r a business genuis. Wish u the best of luck.

Hope u dey cope well with the JTF shaa?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 7:32pm On Apr 14, 2013
ijawkid: Hehehehehehe.......

If you no answer my questions I no go give you one oil line to tap crude from o.......grin......

Just an answer and an oil block is yours ........grincheesy
Lol. If u hav aces to oil block ursef i dnt tink u will hav so much time niraland.
Sports › Re: A Tale Of Two Stadiums. Lagos And Abuja Stadiums... by true2god: 12:02pm On Apr 14, 2013
I left the secondary school some years back. I tot the plural of staduim is stadia, maybe im wrong. But if im right i think the title of the thread should be modified to read a proper english sentence.
Politics › Re: Boko-Haram Kills WAEC Students And Principal In Borno by true2god: 11:53am On Apr 14, 2013
[quote author=Had_one]THIS CONFUSING BOKO ISSUE IS STRATEGICALLY DESIGNED AGAINST THE NORTH. INNOCENT SOULS WERE KILLED DAILY. ATTACKS ON SCHOOLS, MARKETS, TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENTS AND OTHER FACILITIES WHICH IS ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. BOKO HARAM IS A VERY STRONG ANTI-NORTHERN NIGERIA PROGRAMME DESIGNED TO RID NORTHERN ECONOMY.[/quote]Conxpiracy theory. Kindly provide a clear-cut evidence to butress ur point.
Education › Re: Three ‘Missing’ Female-Undergraduates Found In Dubai by true2god: 11:47am On Apr 14, 2013
Thank God non of them is frm the eastern part of the country.
Family › Re: Wife Storms Church, Scatters Husband's Wedding To Another Lady (Pictures) by true2god: 11:32am On Apr 14, 2013
2ND ACCT: reason y 2baba held iz weddin at DUBAI
For dis post, i recommend u for a job with the CIA.
Politics › Re: Boko-Haram Amnesty Failure: Igbos, Yorubas Flee Borno by true2god: 11:26am On Apr 14, 2013
[quote author=xcuggs_m]I HAVE SAID IT IN ANOTHER THREAD IN NAIRALAND THAT "THERE IS NO WAY THE AMNESTY DISCUSSION WITH BOKO HARAM WILL WORK"
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GEJ'S SMART MOVE TO USE THE AMNESTY COMMITTEE AS A MEANS TO IDENTIFY THE BOKO HARAM 'GHOSTS' AND THEIR SPONSORS IS SURE TO FAIL.
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WHO IS FOOLING WHOM
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WHAT IS IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME IS FOR GEJ TO DECLARE A REFUGEE STATUS FOR THOSE FLEEING THE NORTH EAST AND PAY A SORT OF COMPENSATION TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN PICK UP THEIR LIVES IN THE SOUTH.[/quote]Good point, only if the govt will do the needful. Compensate the pple dat fearfully/forcefully leave so that they can pick-up again in another peaceful environment.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 8:28am On Apr 14, 2013
ijawkid: You lied that we don't believe that Jesus came to save mankind.....you Lied!!!!.....why??....why spread falsehood about the witnesses.......I want you to edit what you wrote and speak the truth..........john 17:3.......

And the bolded is another LIE again.....true2God you are infact the liar and slanderer......

Let me answer your question..::::::

When Christ gave that parable he was not teaching about hell fire(abi ear muff dey ona ears??)...........

Enough accounts have shown that heaven and paradise are real...............all servants of God including abraham have been anticipating eternal life........infact it was why Jesus was sent,to open that way.......Jesus did not come to create your hell fire chamber.......

And don't say that the JW's said there would be no literal eternal torment,instead say the scriptures says so...because it is the scriptures that has told us what the lake of fire means..............

When you say eternal presence with God,what exactly do you mean??......
Ok lemme ask u some simple questions.

1. Do u believe that except a man is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God (John 3:16) or are u born-again?

2. Do u believe that Jesus is the savior of mankind (and not only 144,000 pple) or the mediator between man and God (and 144000 pple).

3. Do u believe Jesus can forgive all ur sins if u repent.

4. Do u believe Jesus is coming back for his own pple (act 1:cool

5. Were u baptized in the name of the father (God the almighty), and of the son (Jesus the lamb) and the Holy spirit (the comforter)

If u can honestly ansa this questions i will edit my post (i promise).
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 8:17am On Apr 14, 2013
frosbel: How are they linked ? This is not an honest response.

I asked you a simple question which seems to have stumped you into silence.

If you are a true teacher or student of the word and think I am a false and deceitful teacher , as you have often stated , the onus is on your to prove otherwise.

Answer my question, don't cower in the face of such a simple task.
my response to ur falsehood will make more sense to u if only u let the world knw ur stance on the composition of man. Is man composed of the spirit, soul and body?

Ok let me help u here, ur ansa is NO, since u dnt want to be pinned on corner. This is not only a false and satanic response frm u (i will otherwise retract my statement if u ansa negetes my assumption) but an attempt to divert the core basis of the discussion on the teaching of Jesus on the 'richman and lazarus'.

Ok Frosbel, frm ur analysis so far, Jesus examples on the story (or allegory as JW falsely put it) was Jesus den lying by saying:
1. Lazarus dies and was carried to abraham's bossom (a place of comfort)
2. The richman died and he cried (even afta his pgysical death)
3. That the richman begged for water afta much suffering
4. That the richman asked Lazarus to be ressurected to mortal life (or physical life) so that he can warn his brothers on earth to change their evil ways so that they dnt face the same fate he is facing.

Frm the points i listed above its vry clear dat u and and our lord Jesus have differing opinions on this topic. And its only wise to align with Jesus and not with u (a false witness).

U can quote encyclopedia to disprove Jesus, dat doesnt meant u r not a LIAR.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 7:52am On Apr 14, 2013
ijawkid: The bolded is unfounded.....d.o you even kÑow who the Jehovahs Witnesses are or you just want to be childish??.........

Can you please take back the LIE I bolded??................
My friend i understand at least 95% of JW doctrines and tricks, i knw wat im saying. I have been dealin with dem for so many yrs and on few occasions attended the kingdom hall. Its convenient for JW to condemn the apostolic faith, assembies of God church, CAC, RCCG, deeperlife (even where JW are blatantly lying) but they cant condemn the teachings of the church of the latter-day saints, eckancker, the grail messangers. The reason is that they belong to the same false xtains org, so y condemn dem.

Ok since christ teachings on hell fire is not literal (only according to JW), dnt u tink his teachings on heaven and paradise are not literal as well? Since there is not eternal punishment (according to Jw), dnt u think ther is no eternal presence of the righteaous with God? Is it that u choose is convenient for u?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 12:15am On Apr 14, 2013
frosbel: You have no clue or answer to my question which is why you have responded with a question to my question , this is a rather prideful way of side stepping my question.

Do I not deserve to have my question answered ?

Let me repeat it here , if the wording is difficult for comprehension let me know and I will endeavor to rephrase :

If the dead in Christ are already with Christ, what is the purpose of the resurrection ? Paul says that both the dead in Christ and those who are alive will meet with Jesus and be forever with him at this second coming , not before.

If death is the hope of us Christians, what makes us different from the death cults who kill their members en masse so as to be with their creator in Paradise ?

Is death our hope , or is the resurrection our hope ?
I had expected u to quote my post in the latter part of the sixth page, but u typically jumped into an unrelating response.

Let me repeat me my response:The genesis account of creation is valid, 'God breath upon a man and he became a living soul' and Paul's prayer to the xtain church 'may God bless ur spirit, soul and body'. Do u believe that man is made up of the spirit, the soul and the body. I will respond to ur question as soon as u ansa my simple question. This is because they r vry related and interlinked to ur question.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 11:56pm On Apr 13, 2013
[quote author=frosbel][/quote]I'm not an apostolic faith person but they r one of the few xtain congregation dat stand for truth and holiness. Any organization dat doesnt preach christ as the lord and savior of man frm sins(eg ur Jehova witness wil neva preach this in their watchtower) is not differnt frm mormonism or the grail messangers. The apostolic faith stil maintain a high level christain standard and conducts, both inside and outside the church. Its only the devil and his agents that will say otherwise (which u represent) in order to discourage pple frm serving the true God.

At Frosbel which church do u attend? Your ansa will be 'i dnt belong to any church or follow any MOG but only the bible' and u r here teaching pple to be like u. Its only a fool dat wil follow such.

Guy stop being used by enemies of christ to lead pple astray. Jesus said 'a time will come wen pple dat kills u (the xtains) will think they are doing godly service. Thats exactly wat u r doin on the internet, technically cruficifyin christ for the second time.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 11:37pm On Apr 13, 2013
frosbel: I believe in the Genesis 2:7 account of man's creation.

Can you kindly answer the straightforward question I asked you.

Thanks.
U believe in the creation account of Genesis (God breath upon the mortal body to make it a living being or soul) and u dnt believe Paul's expantiation on the composition of man (as having a spirit, a soul and a mortal body). I will always take u vry deceitful. Reconcile the two accounts and i will ansa ur question. My anwerin ur question is never an issue, but i need to knw ur stand on the composition of man before i respond to u cos it will get u in understandin dat passage better (if truly u want to learn and not scorn at the gospel).
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 11:08pm On Apr 13, 2013
frosbel: If hell exists for the wicked after death then heaven also exists for the believers after death, and therefore the believers hope to be with the Lord is death and not the resurrection.

In other words we hope for life in death, the same scary belief people like the cult leader Jim Jones held on to, and which culminated in the deaths of hundreds of innocent adults and children.

I put it to you that the righteous will be resurrected to life to be with the Lord forever while the wicked will be resurrected to judgement and destruction.

For a true teacher of God like you, this should not be a difficult question, help your brother true2god , this is beginning to get embarrassing.
Sorry for the delay, had for preparefor tomorro. Thank u Frosbel for ur question. But b4 i ansa u i need to get something frm u. Do u believe that man is made up of the spirit, the soul and the body? Ur ansa to this questiion will determine my response.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 10:23pm On Apr 13, 2013
frosbel: Bro.Alexeo , I dey wait ooo

Tell me :

If the dead in Christ are already with Christ, what is the purpose of the resurrection ? Paul says that both the dead in Christ and those who are alive will meet with Jesus and be forever with him at this second coming , not before.

If death is the hope of us Christians, what makes us different from the death cults who kill their members en masse so as to be with their creator in Paradise ?

Is death our hope , or is the resurrection our hope ?
So happy u 'believe' in 'rapture' or the home call for the dead in christ. Dats interesting. Hold while i giv u my response.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 7:48pm On Apr 13, 2013
frosbel: now we can begin to sit back and observe the spirit behind this wicked, antichrist, sadistic doctrine, just look at how the adherents of this HELL cult are throwing around abuse like there is now tomorrow, and yet the hypocrites will call themselves Christian , go to church on Sunday , pay their tithes and carry on with their hypocrisy.


Mat 23:13-24 (NIV) "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. Woe to you, blind guides!.. You blind fools!.. You blind men!.. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel."
Ur response is diversionary. U r accusing pple of using abusive language, which is vry wrong, but u have to trash out ur peddling of falsehood on the internet.

Besides, u r quoting Jesus retort to the hypocricy of the pharisee but u dnt accept his teachings completely or u intentionally misterprete it. Is that not deceit?

I say again, if Paul should rise again and preach the gospel like he did in those days, u will be his greatest antagonist. If u cant believ in the clear teachings of Jesus and u r quoting him at ur convenince, than u area a LIAR.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 7:14pm On Apr 13, 2013
ijawkid: Please go back to the previous pages .....I had explained it....go back.....angry......
I knw u wont respond just as i predicted. Even if the names of the 5 brethren were mentioned u will still ask me about their genotype and blood broup, na JW regular pattern---confusing the gullible frm 'reasoning frm the scriptures' and not the bible.

If u cant accept Jesus' own teachin about the Holy spirit (as erroneosly taught as active force, electricty or rader according to deceptive\cunny watchtower) or his teachings concerning the after-life scenarios, den who am i to teach u.

Continue in ur errors.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 6:39pm On Apr 13, 2013
ijawkid: Then I guess you guys are worse than the devil who believed Jesus died and was underneath this earth for 3 good days and was inactive..............and also you guys are worse than the devil who believed Jesus was the son of God and not God himself(just a lil reminder...cheesy)........

You guys don't believe in the ressurection....why??because if you do you would believe that when we die we stay in our graves until we are ressurected.......your belief of the spirit of man(which you guys believe to be a seperate person and not the breath of life)escaping at death to meet God negates the need for a ressurection..........

God only ressurects those who are dead in all ramifications..........

I have explained what the parable of the rich man and lazaruz means.......and for the umpteenth time I want you and that dubious alexleo to openly agree its a parable........

I personally showed alexleo from the scriptures that that story was a parable...but his obstinate person won't let him accede.............
Ur response is rather dodgy. Ok to make it easier for u, can u explain the significance of the request as made by the richman, 'i have 5 brethren in the world, ask lazarus to go and preach to dem for them to repent so that they dnt come here wen they die'.

I hav a feeling dat u wont respond straight (or at all). But if u can, pls educate me here. Make it bw both of us only, forget about ur issue with alexleo, pls educate me.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 5:51pm On Apr 13, 2013
ijawkid: And you are genuine abi??.....

you call one who believes that Jesus died completely and was ressurected on the 3rd day an anti-christian,while you who believe Jesus didn't die for 3days should be called what??....

You can go join your pagan counter-parts and wallow in your hell fire/immortality of the soul doctrine.......
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 5:51pm On Apr 13, 2013
ijawkid: And you are genuine abi??.....

you call one who believes that Jesus died completely and was ressurected on the 3rd day an anti-christian,while you who believe Jesus didn't die for 3days should be called what??....

You can go join your pagan counter-parts and wallow in your hell fire/immortality of the soul doctrine.......
Even the devil believes Jesus dies and resurected on the 3rd day. That doesnt mean hes no longer the devil. The devil said unto him 'if thou art the son of God...', so even the devil recognized Jesus as the son of God. So it made no difference.

Do u knw y easter is being celebrated world-wide by xtain denominations? Its all about christ death and his resurrection. So i dnt knw y u r askin if we do believ Jesus ressurected or not. At times ur question is baffling.

Ok frm ur unbiased point of view, lets just say the story of Jesus concerning the richman and lazarus is not real (according JW belief and teachings), wat message was he trying to pass across.

Concerning the richman request, 'father abraham, i have five brethren on earth, pls ask lazarus to go and warn dem to repent so that they dnt come here wen they die'.

Pls interprete this two for me.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 5:12pm On Apr 13, 2013
frosbel: ^^

Why are you so angry and bitter ? This is only a forum for discussion and sharing ideas ? Don't take it personal , enjoy your weekend.

smiley
No one is discussing with a DECEIT. You must accept ALL what Jesus\bible teaches, else u will remain a knwn deceit on Nairaland.

Stop ur joxtaposing\misinterpretation Bible ministry den pple will take u serios. U r gradually losing ur relevance as more pple are becoming aware of ur antic. I hope more pple will be aware of ur anti-christian ministry on Nairaland.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 10:28am On Apr 13, 2013
alexleo: The way you people lie shamelessly is worrisome. The questions we asked you which one have you answered? Which bible quotations have u quoted that we ve not answered u with scriptures? How about the ones we quoted and u misinterpreted? Get out.
Ijawkid's case is understandable, he's a good JW, just dat wen the 'light becomes brighter' on this issue, he will agree wit u. But as long as the 'light is not yet bright' he wont believe wateva u said or the bible says. He must get confirmation frm 'the head office'-Brooklyn, NY, before he accept wat the bible teaches dats not in tune with the tradtional belief\teaching of JW.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 7:58am On Apr 13, 2013
frosbel: ^^

Instead of debating issues, you are getting all riled up.

I stand on all my positions , not the teachings of a cult.

Try and sleep well tonight. grin
Nobody will waste time debating will an intentionally false preacher, but will only point out his falsehood. The word of God is not open to scholarly debate where majority opinion stands. The scriptures says 'there is a way dat seems right to men (larger crowd) but the end is the way of death.

So Paul's teaching (on spirit, soul and body) has suddenly become a 'cult' cos u dnt accept his stand here, just as u never accept the scriptural stand of many preachers of today or u r just using the word 'cult' cos it appeals well to ur taught right now? I knw if Paul were to be alive today u will be the first to call him false preacher, im very sure of dat. Can u see that u r modern pharisee who never want to serve God and willl also prevent others frm serving him?

Guy i have taken time to go through most of the threads ur created (and most of ur post) and have come to conclude that u r a high level 'DECEIT'. I dnt hav time to start posting most of ur contradictions (confusions) but i will soon open a thread to do a proper scrutiny of all ur earlier post and threads that will be open for discusion, that will make u more popular as a false witness.

Its only the immature and the gullible that will fall for ur deceits. But thank God many pple are seeing wats behind the veil.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Rich Man And Lazarus by true2god: 11:04pm On Apr 12, 2013
frosbel2: Let us start from the beginning and then we can talk about what Paul said.

Show me where in the account of creation God formed a separate spirit and soul and put into a separate body ?


I wait for your answer.
The problem is ur trying to drive ur opinion on pple whether true or false and u never wish to learn. U dnt believ anyone put u thru' wat u dnt understand. Thats too egoistic and full of pride. The same pride and ego dat made the devil to fall.

Back to ur question, 'God breath into a man and he became a living soul'. Thats the Bible truth. The bible didnt not say God also breath into animals as well to become 'a living souls'. Thats where the peculiarity of man comes to play. Cos God breath (spirit) activates man at creation.

Take a phone, as an example, without a Sim card, the phone is useless. The same thing applicable to the body, without a soul and spirit its useless. The same breath we breath daily keeps the spirit alive in the body. We the breath stops our spirit goes back to God (check stephen's statement at his point of death: 'lord acept my spirit', Jesus at the point of death said, 'into thine hand i commit my spirit). Compare with with paul prayer for the xtain congregation 'may God bless ur spirit, soul and body'.

Tho' u r not meant to believe the bible completely, as aginst ur claim, i dnt expect u to agree with me here cos its not skewed towards ur belief system and ur interpretation of the scripture.

I would rather u continue with ur anti-church drive such as tithing, performing miracles, church building projects etc which u can do well. On dis topic u get rit wrong bro, just that u wont learn.
Music/Radio › Re: Sunny Ade Vs Ebenezer Obey: Who Do You Prefer? by true2god: 3:49pm On Apr 12, 2013
As an igboman who grow up in Lagos, both r great musicians. When i was a small boi i tot sunny was better cos of the great beats and style he adds to music, but now i hav a different view.
Obey music teaches lessons, advices pple and makes u reflect about life in general. But sunny music makes u happy, dance and and 'shake bodi'. Both are great with differnt styles. Another great musician i love so much is late Oliver d'coque, also a music genius. Igbo pple neva got someone better since he left the scene. Our present crop of musicians are no longer original, copying americans and forgetting our musical heritage.

Long live juju music
long live highlife music
live live ogene music
damn to sensual hip hop dat encourages and promotes promiscuity.

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