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truthislight: The word god is a title, remember, there was no capitalisation in Hebrew and greek letters.

If stones and satan is called "god" in the bible, how much more Jesus christ .

See:

"He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it. Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto." (Isaiah 44:14-15).
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The word God is a name that is given to anything that receives worship/worshipful honor.

So, when talking about God/gods, Jesus christ that Yahweh has elevated is a "mighty God". Isaiah 9:6.

benalvino: Godhead is same as deity or divinity. Jesus was fully divine by nature.

deSika: i must applaud your dodgentiantis. One minute your likes would be asking where does the bible call Jesus God but when you are shown you resort to "The scriptures call all of us GOD"

Jesus is involved in creation (an exclusive ability of God, no man can create life) and then called God and you Ijawkid has the guts to equate him with man that cannot create life.

The truth is staring at your face, bro i dont know why you keep denying it.

Did you see 'mighty' in Isaiah 9:6. Does it not make a difference to you. Or will you now say "The scriptures calls all of us mighty GOD too"

Isaiah even adds more sand to your garri. Did you see the word 'everlasting father '. What! Everlasting what! Bro Ijawkid pls can you confirm whether what am seeing is in your bible. It seems my eyes are playing tricks on me. How many fathers do we have. JESUS, the everlasting Father. What about God the father. Mbok Ijawkid i need some help.

Acts 20:28 is now wrong abi, its no longer a translation problem its now the text itself that is wrong kwo.

Thats the truth stirring at your face. All the translations say the same thing 'his blood' . JESUS is the God who used his blood to buy the church. Thats what the verse is saying.

Question again is why does the bible call Jesus a mighty God, everlasting father and yet You Ijawkid and Frosbel refuse to call him that. Why

Bidam: Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion. For lo, I come, and I will dwell in your midst, says Jehovah.
And many nations shall be joined to Jehovah in that day, and shall be My people; and I will dwell in your midst, and you shall know that Jehovah of Hosts has sent me to you.
And Jehovah shall possess Judah, His portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.
Be silent, all flesh, before Jehovah; for He has risen out of His holy dwelling place.
Zecheriah 2:5-13 (Modern King James Version)

Keep reading it until you figure out which Jehovah is sending which Jehovah. . . .and they say there is no Trinity in the Old Testament.

BERNIMOORE: @benalvino

i think you knew what you are in for, you go argue tire here and i think and believe that we are going to page 50 and above,and we are are ready, the falsehood lies of trinity must die a natural death, here we go..

truthislight: All of you are just common liars on this thread, i wonder what am doing here.

truthislight: Which issue ?

Your confussion is because your fellow trinitarians had removed the name of Yahweh from the bible to confused you and you are now really confused.

But for their deceitfulness they would not had removed God's name and you would have seen it there.

The reference there is about Lord God(Yahweh).

After which Jesus the spoke man then described himself.

Dont forget that Jesus was speaking the word Yahweh the father gave to him.

ijawkid: Mumu wan kill am......

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He is asking me who is my saviour...wether ehud or Jesus.....

Smh!!!.....

truthislight: All of you are just common liars on this thread, i wonder what am doing here.

truthislight: All of you are just common liars on this thread, i wonder what am doing here.

ijawkid: He can't even grasp the point I've been making.......

Just go to sleep......

ijawkid: Isn't ehud too a saviour??...are you people blind to exegesis or what??...

1...Yahweh appointed EHUD as saviour
2..Yahweh appointed his son Jesus as saviour...


Who is the doing the appointing??.....

ijawkid: Yes......the appointed one God the Father sent as saviour...

true2god: @ Ijawkid, does Jesus qualify to be ur savior or the savior of mankind? Hw many saviors do we have?

benalvino: satan was created by Jesus... so keep quiet... anybody can ask people to worship them just like satan. never a time the bible says Satan was equal in nature with GOD... I don't see Satan being call GOD with out him being idol. cause in reality he is not a god.

benalvino: now david was not worshipped abi? when I told you he was given civil homage you still insist he was worshipped with GOD... now you don change mouth... this is double standard. if you know he was not worshipped you wont be using it to back up your self... the father say same way you honor him is same way you will honor the son... Jesus say if you don't honor him you don't honor the father... this is why Jesus is GOD... that oneness with God is always there... God is the Good shepherd and he is the Good shepherd too...

Jesus said God is in him and he is in GOD... they want to kill him for making him self equal with the father... now see this verse

2Cor. 5:19 …God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them….
^^^ goes with the verse bellow...
Titus 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus

John 20:28 Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word ["logos"=Jesus], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Col. 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God….

Heb. 2:14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same….

if you have seen me you have seen the father...

John 14:8-11

Philip said to Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need."
Jesus answered, "Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you should know me(he is telling them they are seeing the father). The person that has seen me has seen the Father too(Exact representation of the father). So why do you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you truly believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me(Claiming he is one with the father)? The things I have told you don't come from me. The Father lives in me, and he is doing his own work(See why Jesus is the word that became flesh?). Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or believe because of the miracles I have done.

benalvino: Why did Jesus call him self beginning and end? alpha and omega? I no include first and last because una they bring silly excuse

ijawkid: And I insist Jesus called himself first and last and the reasons where given......and not alpha and omega....

And why should you think there can be 2 king of kings??.....isn't it suppose to be an exclusive title to Jesus??......

benalvino: they don't even pray through Jesus or to Jesus... they saw Jesus as an ordinary god... but Jesus is calling him self first and last beginning and end alpha and omega. they are the only ones who translate him as a god then later they translate as Mighty God... see as they jump back to big letter G? cause it didn't say almighty there... that shows you how their doctrine is belittling Jesus... when he claim to be the I am they change it to I have been... my point is why do they have problem when Jesus claim to be GOD?

ijawkid: 1 chronicles 29:20

King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
And David said to all the
congregation, Now bless the LORD
your God. And all the congregation
blessed the LORD God of their
fathers, and bowed down their
heads, and worshipped the LORD,
and the king.
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Philippians 2:9-11

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
and given him a name which is above every
name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee
should bow, of things in heaven, and things in
earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the
Father.

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Like benalvino said it depends on what you define worship to be......

I know the God I give exlusive devotion to......

I revere/adore and honour Jesus as Gods appointed king,judge,high priest......

Thank you....

true2god: Ok to put it on a simpler perspective, (Ijawkid, Bernimoore, truthislight) can Jesus be worshipped?

BERNIMOORE: @benalvino,

where are true2God and itsfacts, you can see now that when it comes to the heart of discussion, they were lost! they wont contribute a dine!

ijawkid: Have you compared scriptures with scriptures ever in your life??....please can I allign scriptures that has countless times used the expression beginning of so that we can see what Jesus being the beginning of Gods creation means??....





Lol......my question is why did you run away from the arch angel micheal thread??....why??.......








All we are trying to say is that Jesus isn't the Father who is the one GOD........don't you get it??....that's my aim on nairaland.....to fight against any one who dares to equate Jesus with his God and Father.....




And the reason you're asking this question is because I am using the NWT to discuss with you??........

I want you guys to drop this NWT issue and let's attack the subject at hand.....

If I was using the NWT then you have a basis to be asking me this yeye questions.....

I am not even using it still your dragging me back........

Oya I no dey use the NWT for my discussion ona still dey grapple on straws.....


So when it says melchizedek has no beginning what does it mean??......because it is obvious that you don't know who melchizedek is.........



If Jesus would be a high priest in the order of melchizedek what does it tell you...??....





Please melchizedek has no beginning or end...let us confirm if he is GOD so that we can understand the he has no beginning and end issue.......

Or maybe there is suppose to be a 4th person to make it quadruplicity.......

You must know who melchizedek be o......

benalvino: that statement alone is worst that someone who haven't heard about Christ before

ijawkid: Please can you evoke an example to prove the scriptures otherwise??.......

Please all I need from you guys is to show me how one can be the beginning of someone else's work and not be a part of that work but the first of it....

Please an example.....please I beg ona......

Now let me ask you the same question I've been asking benalvino....

Can we also call the Father the beginning of Gods creation??.....

And as regards hebrews 7:3 I ask again....

Is it true we have another being that has no beginning ??......

Is melchizedek also God??.....answer me...

You quoted hebrews so bring answers.....

frosbel: ^^^^


Jesus was born of a WOMAN as the Son of GOD, stop this confusion.

ijawkid: And Jesus has a beginning...can you help benalvino bring out a verse that is a replica of revelation 3:14 from the scriptures that gives a different definition of one being the beginning of someone else's activity or works??.......

And for your info heb 7:3 in no way shows Jesus did not have a beginning......

Doesn't melchizedek have a beginning??....

Is melchizedek also God the Father??.....