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mustymatic:
Oh my! Is Jesus not god again? There's some juicy thang in the Bible... old n new

Your post makes no sense.

tartar9:
Nobody owns Islam and their isn't any single of such
interpretation by any Muslim scholar,so lie with sense

I laugh in chinese 'hoi hoi hoi kia kia kia'. Your ignorance make me laugh, even the saudis will be surprised at your level of ignorance. Its like you saying that nobody owns the 'osun oshogbo' festival.

Lets take hajj and the olympic games for instance. If you tell me that the olympic games is not owned by any country, then I will accept, but that hajj that is hosted by saudi arabia for more than 1400 is not owned by the saudis, then you are deceiving yourself. All the local organizing commitee, the logistics, the strategy and what have you, is 100% controlled by the saudis. I know you are not daft.

This is the simple truth the saudis will never tell you. Do you know what caused the hajj stamped of last year? Do you know the saudi govt official death toll report and the real number of people that died? Who control the information, the muslim ummah or the saudi authority.

Use your brain bro.

truthmans2012:
My brother, don't mind these jihadists, they are under islammic hypnotism.

Should there be any argument on the OP that is sooo clear, all things being equal ?

No Muslims reasons normally, no matter their level of western education. Sorry for them.

We will keep teaching them till they start thinking more rationality. Islam causes many negative things I won't like to mention now.

tartar9:
Trash!
He doesn't even know what the five pillars of Islam is.

I mentioned the 'sunnah' of the islamic prophet and not the 5 'pillars' of islam. Please correct me if im wrong, are five pillar of islam the same with the sunnah of the islamic prophet? If you take time to read my post well, you will see that I ended my 5th point with an 'etc' which means that the list was not fully exhausted. Do I need teach you everything? I am dealing with adults mehn!

The 5 pillars of islam are:

1) Performing hajj: a religious tourism that sustains the economy of mecca (before oil and gas was discovered). It was a pre-islamic pagan practised that was retained by mohammed for economic reasons.

2) Shahadah: An oath where one pledged allegiance to allahh and his one and only apostle, mohammed ibn abdullah. As a Nigerian, the pre-amble of our national pledge is: I pledge to Nigeria my country, to be faithful, loyal, and honest..... The shahadah is a muslims' pledge to serve an arabian idol, allahh and honour his apostle, mohammed.

3) Salah: A prayer to the arabian idol called allahh. Just like with have a yoruba deity called 'ifa'. You just aknowlege ifa's lordship, as in point 2 above, before you can pray to ifa.

4) Zakat: A poll tax on muslims to sustain the expensive lifestyle of mohammed and his numerous wives and concubines, especially when war booty is not coming very quickly (quran 8:1). The practice of zakat was however retained and modified by Abu Bakr (the first 'rightly guided khalifa) and an institutional payment in all muslim community. Christians and Jews are however obliged to pay Jizya (quran 9:29) as a security fees to avoid being attacked by muslim overlords. Jizya is more than thrice of zakat, to impoverish to Jewish and christian community.

5) Sawn (fasting): Fasting in the month of ramadan is also a pre-islamic pagan practice which mohammed incorporated into islam. Unlike christian fasting, muslims are expected to wake by 5am and eat well to sustain them for the day while they eat in the evening to sustain them for the night.

So these are the 5 pillars of islam is summary.

Lukmann:
Keep living large in the world of your own delusion. In your subtle attempt to portray islam as a bad religion you forgot to mention the terrorism plaguing the british since early mordern period in a bug to temporarily cure you of your amnesia i will remind you of the "gun powder plot" by a group of catholics to assassinate king james and blow up the palace. So quit feeding us obsolete trash as sponsored by your ilk. The defeat of pope urban and his brigands by sultan ayoobi is still "candy crush" but when the jihad as sanctioned by the sharia begins UNA GO PICK CONFIRM RACE AKA TEMPLE RUN

You are an amateur debater and seem new on nairaland. You will learn hard-core islam here on nairaland, which you can never learn in your local madrassas.

As I told you ealier, I judge islam based on the acts, deeds and teaching of mohammed only and not how an ordinary muslim feels or the type of life he choses to live, most of which are far more humane, compassionate and rational than mohammed (heat be upon him). You seem never bother to read the quranic verse or ha-death I provided, all of which show mohammed to be an evil man and a psychopath.

I have no time for what the british or the catholic did, my concern is the deeds and teachings of Jesus which inspire terror, and I am yet to see any.

Lukmann:
You've been going on and on like a rushing tap with a spoiled switch without even making sense which i guess is not one of your strong suit. When it comes to digging phantom dirts about muslims you suddenly Be come an historian but when it comes to christainity you suddenly have amnesia without bothering to look it up on the same internet you used for that of the muslims. Like the ragtag christain which you are you can continue foaming from the sides of your mouth it still doesnt change the fact that you are just a scared little kitten afraid of the incoming tornado (islam) that will sweep across the world. Cheers as you wait in advance for it

Your attempt at giving islam a 'life-line' is a failure.

Islam is synonymous with mohammed just as christianity of synonymous with Jesus. The bible says 'by their fruit we shall know them'. What are the fruits that mohammed brought to the world. Terrorism (sahih bukhari 4:52:220), misogyny and child marruage (quran 65:4), war (quran 9:29, quran 8:39, quran 9:5) and divisions (quran 5:51).

I have no business with what individual (or collective) christians or muslims actions, my interest is the where they got their inspiration from. Muslim terrorist are inspired by the quran and the ha-death, facts no muslim can deny\dispute (cos it is well documented in your quran and ha-death).

And fya, the civilized world is tired with islam hence making local decisions against islam and islamic terror. Islam was expelled from europe twice and, except muslims calm down, they will be expelled for the third and final time in the most brutal form never seen by muslims and their sympathizers.

If muslim countries are not cursed why are the all running from their cursed lands to the civilized world? Why cant muslims stay in iran, sudan, somalia, tunisia, moroco, egypt, afghanistan, pakistan, yemen? Why are they running to the US, FRANCE, BRITIAN, GERMANY, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, and other peaceful and prosperous land of the infidels.

As I said earlier, the storm is gathering, the non-muslim world are tired of islamic terror and will soon act decisively against the followers of allahh and his criminal apostle (heat be upon him).

tartar9:
Nobody owns Islam and their isn't any single of such interpretation by any Muslim scholar,so lie with sense

You are very funny and ignorant. You are like saying nobody own the lagos 'eyo' festival or the 'osun osogbo' festival. Islam is own 100% by the arabs and that is why all the religious rituals and prayers are done in arabic. Dont be a dunce bro.

Besides I believe you went through the op, and if you dont please go through it again.

KOYINSTEL:
I can't help but hate d religion called "islam".2 think that many Christians have been killed and her still being killed, it makes me hate islam, I hate d religion with a passion, yes,Christians must be persecuted cos d scripture must be fulfilled, but I hate d fact that the persecution is coming from animals called muslims. islam is the worst religion on earth and it is no doubt the fastest growing religion as at now,but it's all through violence. if I were God, I would have killed all the muslims in d world, I wish I could jst do something about d things that call themselves muslims. it's so funny that they still have d mouth to claim that islam is a religion of peace. I guess u guys don't know the definition of peace, ur mohammed must have been very ignorant of the meaning of peace, he was so stupid that he thought peace meant violence. muslims are the troubles of Nigeria, not jst Nigeria but the whole world. if there is anything like unpardonable sin, u guys have committed worse than that. I find it so amazing that God can be so merciful as to still leave u pple on this earth nd it's more amazing that He will always be ready to forgive u if u repent.God wants everyone to repent,that's y He has decided to give u pple enough chance. As for me,I wish u all nothing but death,pain,agony, defeat nd all d terrible things in this world. The chance God is giving u guys is being used to cause more disaster to humanity as a whole.*I spit on all the muslims reading this*. No matter how innocent u may seem, u are all like mohammed who is nothing but a rapist and terrorist, as it has been earlier said, u all will join him in HELL. I don't pray for u guys to repent,I pray for u all to DIE... HELL is less than what u deserve, I wish there is something worse for u pple. Muslims disgust me so much, I feel like throwing up whenever I see them. pls oo #BringBackOurGirls#,have they not suffered enough?? y re u pple so mean? I find it difficult to believe that u pple are human beings, u guys are demons in human form. u all should jst die nd go to hell so dat u can leave the world in peace. Children of a bond woman. I Hate You All. U deserve far more than the hatred people have for u.my greatest wish is to see u all burn in hell. YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wish u all bad luck in all ur endeavors

I feel your pain bro, you dont have to hate muslims because they are human being like you (though many of the ones that follow the sunnah of their prophet are very dangerous). What you need hate is islam itself, the arab desert ideology which destroy the soul. 99% of muslims are born into islam and had been brainwashed, from infancy, that mohammed (heat be upon him) was a nice man, 'mercy to mankind', 'best of mankind' and other lies which help obscure the evil nature of the islamic prophet.

It is only in this modern age, IT age, that we now have full electronic access to islamic source materials (the evil quran, the ha-death and the taksfirs of islamic apologists) that exposed arab imperial drive, using islam as an effective tool and non-arabs muslims as useful idiots. It takes a wise man to see the evil plan of the arabs at global cultural domination thus establishing a global arab cultural and spiritual hegemony.

Yoruba muslims, though good people, are still fake muslims (by quranic and ha-death standard) because over 90% of them do not believe or follow the sunnah of the islamic prophet. The yoruba muslims are like the ahmadis, who are regarded as fake muslims by the sunnis, that are always defending the evil of the wahabis and the sunnis. But like a snake, the sunnis still kill them because they follow the sunnah. Thats why the fulanis do not spare yoruba muslims if there is religious crisis in the north.

Do not be frustrated at muslims, they are merely ignorant victims of the numerous lies of mohammed (heat be upon him) and islam. All you need do is to learn more about the evils of mohammed and islam and join us in liberating ignorant and unfortunate muslims.

tartar9:
Then go and look for the 'many Muslims' who believe it does and convince them with your argument.As for Isis leader,are you saying terrorism was part of his college course Please which university is that? Yet still,what single religious authority does he hold in the Islamic community.For every person like him there are a thousand more his opposite possessing more knowledge in the Islamic community.

There is no any muslim authority that does not believe in the quran, the ha-death and the sunnah of the islamic prophet. The leader of ISIS follow the sunnah of the islamic prophet which modern day muslims, especially non-arabs, have ignored. What are the sunnah of the islamic prophet?

1) Making a five-time a day obligatory prayer.

2) Not taking the christians and Jews as friends (quran 5:51)

3) Loving fellow muslims and hating enemies of allahh (quran 48:29).

4) Terrorizing the enemies of allahh (sahih bhukari 4:52:220, sahih bhukari 1:8:387)

5) Killing apostates, etc.

So you cant choose what you like in islam. True islam is the sunnah of the islamic prophet which turns a sane human being to a psychopath.

tartar9:
So how can you convince me with what I dont even believe.Any body can interpret them anyhow they like.

Are you saying you no longer believe in the quran and the ha-death or what were clearly written in them?

The interpretation is not subject to your approval. Great islamic 'scholars' like, ibn kathir, had already confirmed that all muslims will pass through hell but allahh will bring them out later, who are you (a fake yoruba muslim) to argue quran and the hadith with the arabs (the true owners of islam)?

HalimaSadiya:
To all the people that quoted me I'm surprised none of you have written anything about those evil Bible passages I shared earlier GTFO you hypocrites , didn't Mary the mother of Jesus get married at a young age ? Where is your proof that the prophet is a "paedophile" , yes they got married but bring out evidence to say they had any intimacy you people are comedians. I can't believe the ignorance displayed by you people on this thread you say Islam is violent Christianity is peace ? Where did that come from ? Confused set of people preaching different doctrines you have the "Deeper life" , "MFM" , "Catholic" and so on all giving their own interpretations on how a Christian should be Astaghfirullah today is Friday just quote me and I'll put you where you belong . I have more violent Bible passages to share from the new testament anyway lol.

Seems you are a new comer on nairaland. Nobody is accusing your prophet or religion faslsely, but your quran and hadith already judge your prophet as a terrorist and a violent man. See below fya:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror, and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures. ( Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220 )

Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me. (Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 1062 , 1063, 1066, 1067)

The Qur'an declares: Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers! (quran 3:151)

Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (quran 8:12-13)

Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (quran 8:59-60)

And Allah turned back the Unbelievers for (all) their fury: no advantage did they gain; and enough is Allah for the believers in their fight. And Allah is full of Strength, able to enforce His Will. And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. (quran 33:25-27)

It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! (quran 59:2).

On the alleged violent biblical passages, they are history on wars between the Jews and their neighbours. The wars are not instructions by God to fight non-jews as allahh asked mohammed to fight non-muslims. It is not an open-ended instruction like you have in quran 9:29 and quran 8:39. You can as well call those event biblical histories because they are not bible instructions permanently instituted against infidels.

I like your zeal in your defense of islam but unfortunately you have not read the history of mohammed and how he treat women. Do you knw that mohammed, at a time, hit Aisha on the chest that cause her pain? Do you know that Aisha complained that there are no women that suffer as much as muslim women? Do you know that allahh sanctioned the beating of wife (quran 4:34)?

I dont want to beleive that islam had conditioned you not to see the misogyny in islam.

HalimaSadiya:
I'm not your "friend" and yes I'm from a core Muslim family (Let me use family) and I'm definitely not a "commodity" I don't know where you get your lies from and don't use "Saudi Arabia" it is their culture have you been to any North African country ? Aren't they Muslims too ?

Islamic hypocrite, the sunnah of the islamic prophet is now saudi culture. How do you separate culture and religion? Culture and religion go hand-in-hand. As a matter of fact, religion is part of the cultural identity of people. The indians religious cultural identity is hindu, the Jews is judaism, the europeans is christianity, the japanese is budhism while the japanese are shintos, the custosdian of the samurai tradition.

I know you are lady but women are commodity in islam, it is both a religious and cultural practice, especially in core islamic society. In a core islamic society, a woman cannot trave alone without the company of a male guardian who might be her father, brother, son or husband. If a woman is raped, she will be punished while the perpetrator is left alone because it is believed that the women are liable for men's sexual misconduct.

In islamic countries, the testimony of a women in court is not equal to that of a man. In the area of inheritance, the son got twice as much as the daughters. In fact, islam institutes high level misogyny and divinely approves violence against 'disobedient' wives.

To continue later.

HalimaSadiya:
It's okay but you're only insinuating all Muslim women are violent like I could also conclude that all hookers are Christian women , how dumb is that assumption ?

You are very funny associating hookers with christianity. While christianity frowned at prostitution and fornication, islam make it a religious practice and the call it 'nikah mutua', temporary marriage.

In nikah mutua, a muslim can 'marry' a lady today and divorce her tomorrow after satisfying himself sexually and allahh will not count it for him as a sin. It is right there in the quran and the hadith.

Islam frown at indecency but mohammed, at 54, slept with 9 year old little aisha who, in this modern world, will still be in primary 4. And your greatest apostle slept with a girl who will be in primary 4 in this modern age and time.

Islam is a decent religion and yet your greatest prophet permitted marriage of small children (quran 65:4) and your prophet propossed a maximum of 4 wives for muslims but maintained over 11 wives and concubines. What a bloody hypocrite he was!

Leiman100:
This is the height of ignorance and stupidity, Christianity is the most violent and most wicked religion known to history: from the massacre of the crusade era to about 500 trans-atlantic slave trade,to to the sbjugation and the apartheid in America, Autralia, Palestine, South Africa and several other countries, to the first and the second world war that they killed and destroyed over fourty million souls(Adolf Hitler is a devot Catholic Christian) to the era of colonialism that they forced themselves into nations killed, rape and plunder resources of these countries and anywhere they go with their Christian missioneries. In recent times we all witness the illegal invasion of sovereign nations of Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya and on and on. Only Christian countries are legalizing prostitution, and gay marriages and want to force the world to go the same evil way. Is that is immorality and ungodliness the new Christian defination of civilization? All these devilish acts are resisting and will continue to resist till kingdom come call us any name you like we will never jettison our precious religion for thi nonsense!

You are a liar my lieman100. Your name portrays who you are. Christianity is not defined by Adolt Hitler, pope or any other person but by the founder, Jesus christ. The acts and teachings of christ defines christianity. I know you are trying to play the doctrine of 'moral relativeness' by insinuating that 'if you say islam is violent, christianity (or christians) is also violent.

Lets look at both the quran and the hadith to proove a few point, from the founder of islam himself:

The apostle of allahh (not God) said: I have been ordered to fight the people until they say 'there is no god but allahh' (sahih Bhukari 1:8:387). Fight against those who do not believe in allahh or the last days...(quran 9:29).

The apostle of allahh (mohammed, heat be upon him) said that he had been made victorious through terror (sahih bhukhari 4:52:220).

So the foundation of islam had been through war and violent as commanded by the sole apostle of allahh. That is why the advancement of islam, in the medival period, had been through terror, war, raping and looting, in obedience to the sunnah of the islamic prophet.

Mind you, the first major arab war was between the sunnis and the shia, and they have not yet signed any peace agreement and will never.

Leiman100:
This is the height of ignorance and stupidity, Christianity is the most violent and most wicked religion known to history: from the massacre of the crusade era to about 500 trans-atlantic slave trade,to to the sbjugation and the apartheid in America, Autralia, Palestine, South Africa and several other countries, to the first and the second world war that they killed and destroyed over fourty million souls(Adolf Hitler is a devot Catholic Christian) to the era of colonialism that they forced themselves into nations killed, rape and plunder resources of these countries and anywhere they go with their Christian missioneries. In recent times we all witness the illegal invasion of sovereign nations of Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya and on and on. Only Christian countries are legalizing prostitution, and gay marriages and want to force the world to go the same evil way. Is that is immorality and ungodliness the new Christian defination of civilization? All these devilish acts are resisting and will continue to resist till kingdom come call us any name you like we will never jettison our precious religion for thi nonsense!

You are a liar my lieman100. Your name portrays who you are. Christianity is not defined by Adolt Hitler, pope or any other person but by the founder, Jesus christ. The acts and teachings of christ defines christianity. I know you are trying to play the doctrine of 'moral relativeness' by insinuating that 'if you say islam is violent, christianity (or christians) is also violent.

Lets look at both the quran and the hadith to proove a few point, from the founder of islam himself:

The apostle of allahh (not God) said: I have been ordered to fight the people until they say 'there is no god but allahh' (sahih Bhukari 1:8:387). Fight against those who do not believe in allahh or the last days...(quran 9:29).

The apostle of allahh (mohammed, heat be upon him) said that he had been made victorious through terror (sahih bhukhari 4:52:220).

So the foundation of islam had been through war and violent as commanded by the sole apostle of allahh. That is why the advancement of islam, in the medival period, had been through terror, war, raping and looting, in obedience to the sunnah of the islamic prophet.

lexiconkabir:
Are you minding that girl? Something that is clear in that verse yet still saying its not there....truly some Christians who came to nairaland either became an atheist or entirely was not sure of their faith again...i know of three, two an atheist and one not sure of his faith, the latter is a blogger he once had a "debate" with you in i think plain.bibletruth thread, as at then he was a staunch "born again" and now he is on his way to become an atheist if not already an atheist now....its not yet clear to this guys, Muslims are 100% of their faith, the only ones that later become Christians did not go to madrosa, so the more they try to "expose" islam, the more they expose their cult, she must had opened this thread thinking she wants to give Muslims nightmares but in turn it ecposed her deadly cult, Christianity.... I keep saying it forget about the media, forget about the propaganda, no religion makes more sense than islam

You said and I quote: 'I keep saying it forget about the media, forget about the propaganda, no religion makes more sense than islam'.

What makes Islam unique:

1) It is the only religion whose founder believe that victory can only be achieved through terror (sahih bhukari 4:52:220)

2) It is the only religion which recommends death for whoever attempts to leave the religion (sahih bhukari 52:260, sahih bhukari 83;37)

3) It is the only religion whose founder is entitled to 20% of war booty (quran 8:1, quran 8:40).

4) Islam is the only religion that allowed marriage to girls under the age of 7 (quran 65:4, sahih bukhari 7:62:64, sahih bhukari 9:87:140, sahih bukhari 5:58:236)

5) Islam is the only religion whose founder asked\encourage physical harm against non-muslims (quran 9:29)

6) Islam is the only religion whose founder asked muslims to extort money from the christians and the Jews, failure to comply would result to bodily harm or death(quran 9:29)

7) Islam is the only religion whose founder encouraged his members to sleep with female war captives (quran 23:5-6, quran 4:24, quran 33:50, sahih muslim 3371, sahih bhukari 4138, sunan abu dawud 2150)

Let me stop here for now. It is only a potential psychiatric patience that will follow the foot step of mohammed. 90% of muslims do not follow his evil ways or are ignorance of all his crimes or are just moving along as ordinary muslims who have nothing to do with the sunnah of their prophet (heat be upon him).

Demmzy15:
Shhhhhhhhh! All your deception has been exposed, Christianity is nothing on Nairaland, thanks to your evangelism of lies. Some who came into this place as Christians ended up being atheist or different christians entirely. The more you try and expose Islam, the truth about your religion is exposed. My only advice is to stay off or you'll be crushed the second time, can't you see how you got whooped in this thread of yours?

60% of my islamic knowledge and islamic history lessons comes from nairaland. In fact I owe nairaland religion sections a million thanks for all what I know today concerning islam, the remaining 40% is from my further reasearch. Many muslims have de-activated their NL accounts when they can no longer defend islam logically while others became depressed after seeing the truth about islam. So your propaganda hold no water, its like a basket which cannot hold liquid facts.

Christianity, unlike islam, does not threaten members with death for apostasy. I might choose to leave christianity today without being afraid of being killed, but muslims cant just leave islam. It is a cult where, once you are in, you have not right to opt out. Do your research about apostasy law in all muslims countries. It is Islam or death.

Demmzy15:
Allaah did, read an digest the verse given to you. Don't let this hate consume, it'll be bad for you I must say.



Muslims have been cursing and abusing their gods, they feared none of them. The reason why they were prohibited from doing so was because the pagans in return abuse Allaah. Sometimes the pagans abused Allaah and Muslims retaliate in which the cycle goes on.





You're the liar here, I pray your lies and deception won't cost you more than what you can bear.

So from your islam sense it is ok for muslims to abuse and curse other people's god but its weong to curse allahh (allahh I curse you now because you are powerless and an arabian idol in mecca). Ok now.

I taught the quran taught tolerance (quran 2:256) when mohammed was weak in mecca, why were the muslims cursing their gods in the first place?

Coveat, the tolerance quran verses verses were abrogated as soon as mohammed (heat be upon him) left mecca for medina to raise an army for the islamic state. The tolerance verses were replaced with violence and genocidal verses such as quran 9:5, quran 9:29-30, quran 8:39, etc.

Mohammed also proclaimed himself a terrorist. In Sahih Bukhari 4:52:220 mohammed said: I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS THROUGH TERROR.

Demmzy15:
Why are you like this?! The sister honestly posted the verse, out of ignorance you refused to check. I seriously don't get you o!

And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do. Quran 6:108

http://quran.com/6/108

But mohammed can insult and threaten the christians and the Jews because they believe he is false prophet (quran 98:6, quran 9:29-30).

Newnas:
Seems you are super impressed by the dung you stained the thread with.
All what you have said doesn't weigh a chick feather. Only a slowpoke like you with a capsized intellect will be intrigued by your crap.
Anyway, I have a life, wasting my time by trying to teach a pig how to sign is not my hubby


Once again, you have displayed your mental deprivation and dogmatic following of the west.
Maybe you are just one of those 'fishes of the well'. Go in history and read about villains you will see your Christian cliqs far outclassing Mr. Hitler.

You need not throw insults, I know you are pained. I have no apology for that.

These are the words of your criminal prophet mohammed (heat be upon him) well narrated in the hadith and in your evil quran:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror, and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures. ( Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220 )

Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me. (Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 1062 , 1063, 1066, 1067)

The Qur'an declares: Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers! (quran 3:151)

Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (quran 8:12-13)

Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (quran 8:59-60)

And Allah turned back the Unbelievers for (all) their fury: no advantage did they gain; and enough is Allah for the believers in their fight. And Allah is full of Strength, able to enforce His Will. And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. (quran 33:25-27)

It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! (quran 59:2)

These are few verses where your criminal prophet confessed to being a terrorist, why defend a self-proclaimed criminal?

udatso:
Refuting them is useless to you. You would only end up accusing him of altaqiya . Then tomorrow you would bring them up again. So it's really Of no use especially when you have made up your minds about them. What we have been doing has always been to refute these lies.

You should be ashamed of you evil prophet (hiss be upon him) who is the inspiration for evil and failures in all muslim countries. How do all the points listed against your criminal prophet a lie? Are they not In your quran and the hadith? Have you checked the quran and the hadith and they are not there?

Islam make normal human beings abnormal.

If you follow a criminal who told you that he had been made victorios through terror, then you are a potential murderer and a terrorist {sahih bukhari 4:52:220).

If you believe in a man who was entitled to 20% of all war booty (stolen and looted items) from non-muslims, then you are a potential criminal (quran 8:1).

If you believe in a man who asked muslims to fight the christians and the Jews as a result of religious and ideological differences, then you are a potential psychiatric patient (quran 9:29).



If you believe in a man who asked you not to take the Jews and the christians as friends, then you IQ level is lower that 10% (quran 5:51).

If you believe a man who asked you to marry a maximum of 4 wives while he had 11 wives, and several sex slaves, at a time, then you need examine your thinking faculty (quran 4:3).

If you follow a man who encouraged child marriage and having sex with an underage girl, then you are not sensible (quran 65:4).

If you follow a man who called his fellow human being (the christians and the jews) 'worst of creatures' because they do not believe his lies and deceits, then you are not reasonable (quran 98:6).

If you accept an old man of 54 having sex with a girl of 9 as a prophet, you need an urgent psychiatric attention (sahih bukhari 5:58:234).

If you take a man who called a human race 'the descendant of apes and pigs' as a 'prophet' while his followers violently reject the concept of human and animal evolution, then you need reject that fooll who called himself a 'prophet' (quran 7:166, 2:65, 5:60)

Thank God for being a non-muslim who do not follow this most evil personality to walk on the face of the earth, mohammed ibn abdullah, the last prophet of allahh and the king the arabian race (may heat be upon him).

My Igbo people, do not succumb to this arab imperial political religion founded by the most evil man on earth. Two great Igbo leaders, Odumegwu Ojukwu (in ahiara declaration of 1969) and Chinua Achebe (in his book: There was a country) wrote about the evil of islam that had ravaged the middle east, north africa and sub-sahara africa. We should hold firm and resist any blackmail by the fake muslims, do want to mention the tribe in the south, who are the arabs useful idiots for the promotion of their evil and imperial agenda.

Long live Igbo land, free from the islam contagion and islam superstitution and irrationality.

If you follow a criminal who told you that he had been made victorios through terror, then you are a potential murderer and a terrorist {sahih bukhari 4:52:220).

If you believe in a man who was entitled to 20% of all war booty (stolen and looted items) from non-muslims, then you are a potential criminal (quran 8:1).

If you believe in a man who asked muslims to fight the christians and the Jews as a result of religious and ideological differences, then you are a potential psychiatric patient (quran 9:29).



If you believe in a man who asked you not to take the Jews and the christians as friends, then you IQ level is lower that 10% (quran 5:51).

If you believe a man who asked you to marry a maximum of 4 wives while he had 11 wives, and several sex slaves, at a time, then you need examine your thinking faculty (quran 4:3).

If you follow a man who encouraged child marriage and having sex with an underage girl, then you are not sensible (quran 65:4).

If you follow a man who called his fellow human being (the christians and the jews) 'worst of creatures' because they do not believe his lies and deceits, then you are not reasonable (quran 98:6).

If you accept an old man of 54 having sex with a girl of 9 as a prophet, you need an urgent psychiatric attention (sahih bukhari 5:58:234).

If you take a man who called a human race 'the descendant of apes and pigs' as a 'prophet' while his followers violently reject the concept of human and animal evolution, then you need reject that fooll who called himself a 'prophet' (quran 7:166, 2:65, 5:60)

Thank God for being a non-muslim who do not follow this most evil personality to walk on the face of the earth, mohammed ibn abdullah, the last prophet of allahh and the king the arabian race (may heat be upon him).

My Igbo people, do not succumb to this arab imperial political religion founded by the most evil man on earth. Two great Igbo leaders, Odumegwu Ojukwu (in ahiara declaration of 1969) and Chinua Achebe (in his book: There was a country) wrote about the evil of islam that had ravaged the middle east, north africa and sub-sahara africa. We should hold firm and resist any blackmail by the fake muslims, do want to mention the tribe in the south, who are the arabs useful idiots for the promotion of their evil and imperial agenda.

Long live Igbo land, free from the islam contagion and islam superstitution and irrationality.

Demmzy15:
Very impressive, many Ibos would have embraced Islam but the problem is that they easily fall for the propaganda. They think Islam is an Hausa man religion, so many still carry the grudge of the civil war so in essence, they don't want to have anything to do with the hausa man including his religion. I believe this would die down in no time, no matter how they distinguish the light, it'll surely shine!

Ss Muslims are really increasing especially those from Rivers state axis, one of them here is an hardcore Jonathan fan but he's a Muslim.

Gullible muslim. 98% of Igbo 'muslims' are fake, if at all they exist. If muslims can give Igbos business opportunity they will flow along, but never expect any of their family to be part of the evil and backward arabian bloody cult, called Islam.

najib632:
Sigh May God help you, you lack sense dats why I won't even say anything to you thank God Jesus is coming soon all of you that worshipped him would be ashamed of yourselves.

Strange a muslim appealing to christian that Jesus is coming soon. You are getting there bro, soon you will realize that mohammed was a fake and false prophet whose means of livelihood was warring against non-muslims and dispossessing them of their properties, and all his criminal activities sanctioned by allahh.

najib632:
Trust me guy Ignorance is worse than cancer and HIV

You have no point bro. Stop defendind the indefensible.

najib632:
Well it is not everyone that has eyes that can see and please keep on insulting Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Because of how you lack knowledge and logical reasoning what is the jewish word for God and how do jews pray for all I care all the prophets of God said there is only one God and you christians say God is 3 and you even insult God by saying he has a son if so why didnt he call Adam A.S. his son only a fool would say islam is a fake religion.

You prophet insulited the christians and the Jews for calling him fake, read your quran (quran 98:6, quran 9:30). He even ordered christians and Jews to pay a special task for rejecting him and allahh and ordered muslims to fight and kill any christian or Jew who refused to pay (quran 9:29). Are you not ashamed of your prophet? You need to berate your criminal prophet before you berate me. All his crimes are well documented his the evil quran and the ha-death.

If you like worship stone, I dont care, as long as you told throw it at me (by wafa sultan, an ex-muslim). This is what tolerance entails. If christians like they should call Jesus the son of God, thats our belief before mohammed and his parents were born, why should he ask muslims to attack us for our belief (quran 9:29)? Is that not an attribute of a war criminal?

I know you love mohammed, just as love a common criminal in the street. That is why the largest people in the UK prison are muslims, with proportion to the muslim population in the UK. That is why most muslim converts, in the US and the UK, are prisoners and\or ex-convicts because islam has a special appeal to criminals and people that have criminal tendencies, because islam is founded by group of arab criminals (mohammed, abu bakr, omar, ali) who are bent on global conquest using islam as a driving force.

Mohammed, when he was alive raided caravan (gwaza), fought against people who do not believe in his prophethood, with the sole aim of looting them and taking their beautiful wives and daughters as sex slaves (who the quran described as 'whom his right hand possessed'). Mohammed was also entitled to 20% of all war booty before the rest are shared among the sahabas. In fact the only economic activity mohammed engaged, after the death of khadija, was war, taking war booty, taxing muslims for zakat and forcing the christians and the Jews to pay Jizya (quran 9:29).

On abu bakr, mohammed second in command, the father of mohammed's wife (6-yr old aisha), he also engaged in war to keep islam alive immediately he fraudently took over the leadership of islam when mohammed died. As the first khalifa in the new islamic state, he ensure that all apostates are either killed or brought back to islam by force. He led what is now popularly called 'the apostate war'. He was also a war criminal.

Omar, the dark-skinned sahaba of the islamic prophet, is the second khalifa after the death of abu bakr. He was engaged in bitter struggle with fatimah, mohammed's daughter, on who should be the 'rightly guided khalifa. He also killed thousands of people.

Ali, mohammed's son in-law, also became a khalifa after the death of omar. Ali was killed in an islamic coup which led to the factionalization of islam into 2 ideological camps, the shia and the sunni. I have no time to educate you what happened afterwards, read islam early history and discover that islam is founded by an arab criminal who lied that he heard from a demon whom he called 'angel gabriel'.

Islam is not good for a sane mind. Look at muslim countries without oil and gas, you will understand how islam destroys the progress of any society. Islam destroys any good and progress that crosses its way. All progressive ancient empire that came in contact with islam had been destroyed. Islam is called 'a retrogate force' by Winston Churchill because of its destructive tendencies.

najib632:
Among Prophet Muhammads S.A.W's family there were pagans and those that followed the religion of Abraham A.S. his parents were not pagans even his grandfather wasn't a pagan but he had uncles that were pagan even the one that protected him. All these practices were done by Abraham A.S. and his son Ishmeal A.S. when they built the ka'aba as time went on paganism was brought in that was why Islam came to rectify everything. Allah is the real God, the supreme lord of the throne and all that exist, I know you are trying to say Islam is a fake religion and it was just invented if so read the Qur'an and see for yourself. Don't waste your time on an enemy of God's website to feed your soul with garbage.

Muslims are very strange people. Anytime you expose them they invent another lie to cover-up for islam.

You are the first muslim to tell us that mohammed's parents were muslims. Islam was never in existence before mohammed was born. Mohammed also confirmed that he was the first muslim, though he erroneously called abraham and moses first muslims. That is how psychopatic mohammed could be, shifting and contradicting himself always.

allahh was one of the 360 idols worshipped in kabba which belongs to mohammed banu quaresh. It is an arabian moon god. Mohammed, having encountered the Jews and the christians, also want to replicate the concept of 'one God' among his tribes hence led a religios revolution for the destruction of other deities in mecca while at the same time elevated his finally idol, allahh, as the true god. Mohammed's father, Abdullah (meaning slave of allahh) was named after allahh, just as the yoruba tribe name their children ifabumi (ifa gave me this gift), ifashaanu or fashanu (ifa had mercy), ogundairo (ogun make strong), ogunniyi (ogun is useful), etc. Ifa and ogun are yoruba deities just as allahh is an arabian deity.

Among the igbo folks, they also name their like arusi-emeka (arusi had done good), olisadebe (olisa had kept alive), nebeolisa (depend on olisa). Arusi and olisa are among igbo gods just as allahh is one of the arabian gods in mecca.

So if I am a yoruba man in mecca and I worship ogun, I might want to destroy other gods such as olisa, arusi, ifa so that only ogun will be worshipped as the one and only god, even when we all know that ogun, ifa, olisa and arusi are in the same category. This was exactly what mohammed did.

That is why none of the Jewish prophet made reference to allahh or mecca. That is why no single Jew recognise allahh or mecca because the understood that mohammed was a fraud and an imposter. This result into mohammed threatning them with war (quran 9:29), petty insults (quran 98:6) and asked muslims to stay away from the christians and the Jews (quran 5:51).

You dont need to be very smart, unless you are born in islam and had been brainwashed from birth, to believe that mohammed was a liar and a criminal. Just open your mind and eyes while studying (not cramming in arabic) the quran and the ha-death.

truthmans2012:
I love this.

Thanks man. Muslims can be very funny atimes. They claim they dont worship mohammed but they must invoke his name while praying to the mohammed's family idol called allahh.

mustymatic:
I shouldn't reply u
lol...do Muslims worship Muhammad peace be upon him?
don't you Christians worship Jesus? didn't he worship n ask people of d book to worship his God?
think!

Yes muslims worship mohammed. Mohammed is part and parcel of islamic daily prayer and a real muslim must mention the name of mohammed on a daily basis, either during prayer, worship or conversations.

If anyone insults mohammed he will be killed. Muslims respect mohammed more than allahh and many quranic verses contain the phrase 'allahh and his apostle'. Both mohammed and allahh seem to be the same person because in one hadith, aisha accussed mohammed by asking him why allahh is always ready to approve his desires.

When mohammed wanted to marry zainab, the wife of his adopted son saheed, allahh gave mohammed revelation that will approve of him marrying zainab while saheed divorces her. Note that at that time mohammed already had many wives and sex slaves while saheed had non.

When mohammed wanted to marry the 6 year old baby aisha, allahh gave mohammed revelations for him to go ahead and marry an underage girl hence aisha accused mohammed of always hiding behind allahh for his selfish and evil gains.

So islam is all about mohammed and allahh. 99% of islamic preachings are all about mohammed and allahh. 90% of islamic preachings is all about mohammed, 9% about allahh while muslims give 1% attention to 'other prophets' liked Jesus, moses, abraham, etc.

Muslims worship mohammed but deny it. In islam, mohammed is the central figure and he is even more important than allahh.

QueenSalewa:
E.g.:
Banning "western" names like Linda or Alice
Not allowing women to drive

You did not include Benjamin in your list. Is Benjamin a western name? Go figure out the reason.

Yes, there is no specific hadith or sunnah that prohibits women from riding a horse or a camel, but you dont apply islamic rules in isolation. In an ideal islamic state like saudi arabia, a woman is not expected to go out without a male guardian who can be the father, the husband, the brother or even the son. In one of the hadith, a woman is not expected to move or travel alone.

So the saudis are justifying there decision to ban women from driving by citing those al-hadith. A woman driving alone is as good as a woman going out in isolation. What if her car breaks down, wont she have conversation with a strange mechanic which is haram in islam. If she has accident, wont men come to her aid? This is also haram or illegal in islam.

So the musftis in saudi arabia must have place religion above personal confort and modernity, so as to continue with the sunnah of the islamic prophet. It is never an over-arching decision.

QueenSalewa:
Wa alaikum Salam. Haha. Ma worry. I am ready for them.

You are a new-comer. Welcome to the real school of islamic theology you can never have in your mosques and madrassas.