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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 8:38am On Nov 21, 2017

PastorAIO:
Lol!!

Add the reference to where I said the things that you are claiming, otherwise it is just more of your deceitful JW tactics

Here we go again, the red contains his statement of note

PastorAIO:
Oh no I didn't!!

Right, so Cyrus Cylinder says that Cyrus worshipped Marduk. Cyrus Cylinder was written by Marduk's priests. The text takes a form that is common when a new lineage in Babylon is established and divine validation is needed.

That your yoruba sef, you might as well have written it in Cyrillic letters.

So as you believe Marduk exists, I take it that you believe that Marduk actually came to talk to Cyrus rather than the whole thing being a fabrication of Marduk's priesthood. By the way, how many different Gods can speak to Cyrus and give him mandate? Which one is giving the real mandate?

Yes he 'said' that Marduk gave him the Mandate in Cyrus Cylinder which must mean that the Bible is lying. After all the bible makes exactly the same claims for Yahweh and Cyrus and it also quotes Cyrus as saying as much.

:

2“Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: Yahweh, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has charged me to build him a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.
Ezra Chapter 1.

That is just true for all of humanity and just as true for Israelite/Hebrew/Jews as it is for Persians, if not more so, and with Judaism we have plenty and plenty of evidence. More than for Persia.

I believe that the subject of much of this thread is contesting that and making the diametrical opposite claim. You guys haven't settled that yet before you go about stating claims.

According to Ezra He claimed to have got his mandate from Yahweh. He made a proclamation about it. So which is it? Marduk or Yahweh. Personally I say neither. Cyrus was just a pragmatic man who let the Marduk priests make whatever claim they wanted to make about his relationship with their God. And likewise he let the Jews make similar claims in their texts. I'm sure if we found more texts from other nations that he set free we would find more of the same but in the version of each one's own religion.

Worship of many Gods is a far cry from using images to worship God. Nice try though.

He also said that Yahweh charged him to build a house for him. And Yahweh gave him all the kingdoms. So was he lying. Which version do you want to believe? Or you don't want to recognise an astute politician when you see one?

Nothing wrong unless you claim that it is from a source other than where you are actually borrowing from. If you say the bible was written by God, then it is shocking that the creator of the whole universe should show such utter lack of creativity when it comes to writing his holy book and devising a religion.

err... Where does it say in history, the bible, or anywhere for that matter, that Magi (ie. the Priests of Ahura Mazda) went 'to Bethlehem to worship God'?

He sets out to out-rightly discredit Yahweh and the bible, Is there any wonder the he is attacking JW also Since he can verify that Jman05 is a JW?

His evil intent and sinister plot is very obvious. this is how his likes and the others of his kind in the past have been killing people because the entertain a different view concerning the Bible other than the ones they entertain.

The reason for the attack is very clear. He is trying to hide his ancient evil actions and plans all along by saying he is investigating JW, for where! He is an ancient mouth piece of the Hater group.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 8:22am On Nov 21, 2017

PastorAIO:
Lol!!

Add the reference to where I said the things that you are claiming, otherwise it is just more of your deceitful JW tactics

Here he argues that Yahweh was claiming Cyrus while Yahweh never help Cyrus for anything as claimed in the Bible.

PastorAIO:
Cyrus was such a cool guy that everybody was claiming him. Marduk's priests were claiming him, Yahweh's prophets were claiming him. But the fact remains that he was a worshiper of Ahura Mazda. I know that such a fact would pain someone like you, but sorry sorry o. He was a benefactor to Marduk, he was a benefactor to Yahweh. Yahweh didn't give him anything, he gave Yahweh his temple back. The giver is superior.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 8:18am On Nov 21, 2017

PastorAIO:
Lol!!

Add the reference to where I said the things that you are claiming, otherwise it is just more of your deceitful JW tactics

Here he is implying that this prophesy of Yahweh supporting Cyrus to subdue nations is Hogwash and scrappy. Implying that the Bible is falsehood, and Yahweh lies.

Such is the plans of This Christian Pastor AIO for The Bible and The God of the Bible

PastorAIO:
1Thus says the Lord to his anointed ( Messiah ), to Cyrus, whose right hand I have grasped to subdue nations before him and strip kings of their robes, to open doors before him— and the gates shall not be closed:

Isaiah Chapter 45 verse 1.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 8:09am On Nov 21, 2017

PastorAIO:
Lol!!

Add the reference to where I said the things that you are claiming, otherwise it is just more of your deceitful JW tactics

When you go through this, then you will understand the sinister intent he has for the Religion of Christianity, Judaism, And the person of Yahweh. That everything recorded in the Bible is Borrowed.

PastorAIO:
Just one small point of correction for you both. Actually Cyrus did not worship Marduk. Cyrus was a worshipper of Ahura Mazda.

But there is a point where Somnaviya is a bit correct. Much of Judaism after the exile to Babylon was modelled on the religion of Ahura Mazda.

Ahura Mazda was a single creator God was no peer. It is from his religion that the whole notion of a final day of Judgement came from. They brought the idea that History was an epic battle between the forces of Light and Darkness. Almost all of the most recognisable aspects of Christianity and Judaism and Islam can be seen to be derived from the religion of Ahura Mazda even down to the use of phrases like King of Kings, Lord of Lords, in Parsee it is Shahanshah.

So please, the bible never said Marduk was the God of Cyrus.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 8:05am On Nov 21, 2017

PastorAIO:
Lol!!

Add the reference to where I said the things that you are claiming, otherwise it is just more of your deceitful JW tactics

Here he started insinuating that Yahweh Was not known before he introduced himself to Moses.

PastorAIO:
Exodus6:3

3and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as El Shaddai, but by My name, YHWH, I did not make Myself known to them.

Funny thing is that Yahweh is all over the place before Moses turns up.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 7:57am On Nov 21, 2017

MuttleyLaff:
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You had it coming
... and where is the red card, when you need one

So what has all this to do with the thread's title and original post?
Like truthislight earlier and rightly said, this has become incredibly obnoxious and irresponsible.
Have an axe to grind?

OK, then, if you must give vent to your emotions, why not open a new or separate thread, to go retch and vomit all over in?

He wishes to destroy the Thread so that people will not see the details of the arguments for themselves and deduce, this is after he has claimed winning the thread according to him.

When you see an old man becoming a troll.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 9:32pm On Nov 20, 2017

PastorAIO:
I'm just getting started. I admit that I'm actually doing my ongoing investigations at the moment so it is a work in progress, however I can be updating you guys with new expositions as and when I discover it.

Sometimes it pays to take stuck of things, how did we get here on this thread that Pastor AIO is attacking JW?

What was and has been and is Pastor AIO stance and intent, what was his argument all this while on this thread before he decided to become internet collector man? What was his Argument before picking out JW as his stock in thread to attack?

The above question is what any discerning and reasonable person should find out to know the sort of person he is.

• His argument was to discredit that Moses did not write the Books that are assigned to him as the writer, that what is contained in the first five books of the Bible as we have it is Hogwash and scrappy Since according to him, it talked about Moses death. (ignoring that Joshua was always with him)

• That Yahweh claimed Cyrus to be his servant while he did not send or did anything for Cyrus, Implying that the Bible info about Cyrus is unreliable.

• That the name of Yahweh was never known by Adam other servants of God before Moses. Implying that Yahweh is a new God in the scene.

• That it is an error that the Bible was made available to all sorts of person to have access to, that it should have been left under the control of his likes and lots to use and manipulate people.

• That Moses was not inspired as in getting Messages from Yahweh. That Moses inspiration is just like his own inspiration to write a book. Implying that the claim for inspiration for Moses to have written Genesis and the other five books is hogwash. In all, that the bible is never inspired going by his argument.

• That the account of Genesis in creation is not Genuine since No one was there and Moses the supposed writer was never inspired by the Almighty.

• Since Yahweh was never known before he introduced himself to to Yahweh, He is not the almighty God, he claims.

• Claiming that Yahweh is just one of the Canaanites gods and nothing more.

• In all, his attack is geared towards the bible and Yahweh to disrepute them.
• NO WONDER HE HATES THE JW.

Meanwhile, Very well known to him, his effort and intent was quash on this thread and like a drowning person and headless snake whose body have been bruised, with severe anger, is looking for who to transfer his anger and frustrations on those who destroyed his plans here………….. He pounces on What so ever he can see before him, the one he can think of, is that Jman05 is a JW, hence he is attacking the group his narrow mind has told him is the source of the information that was used to neutralized him. Such is the Evil intent.

He had Initially started to attack @Muttleylaff, since he could not lay hands on what to attack him on, he is biting on the only object he can see, JW.

He never has the interest of the Bible, hence his reasons for attacking people on this thread.

I called this the last resort of a frustrated person. His fore bears had done worst than this anyway.

|He is a deceitful fellow, looking for more people to turned atheist.

Assuming the Likes of Jman05 and Muttleylaff did not refute his erroneous post on this thread, what would have became of some in-experience people reading? no wonder he is angry.

An evil man i tell you. he has been in this stuck in thread for only God knows how long.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 7:34pm On Nov 20, 2017

PastorAIO:
You're the one that I am facing here. I don't need to go to any JW ogas. All I know is that they created a bible translation called NWT (new world translation) that is at odds with most other bibles on key points. It is also the official bible of the JW.

You don't have to know Hebrew too deep yourself in this day and age of Internet. There are many ancient Hebrew dictionaries and concordances so if you really are serious about learning the bible you have easy access to the original manuscripts in the original languages.

Where have I not been faithful? Are you going to resort to lies now?

Is it because you asked me whether I want to win by posting a video and I told you that I've already won and the reason for posting the video is to investigate your manner of debating. An attitude that you continue to display up this this your last post. You're trying to avoid the issues. Always ducking and ducking and avoiding the issue.

There is nothing to avoid, the Reason i was in this thread is monotheism, diverting is Derailing.

There is nothing strange in what you are posting. Even if i detect a lie on it i will not revert to argue with you cause it is absolutely not necessary.
We are in the age of Internet, i can get any information i need.

You will rather confront me to argue Hebrew with me. Lol. keep it up. But i know i don't need to know Hebrew language to understand the msg of Everlasting life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 6:08pm On Nov 20, 2017

PastorAIO:
If you are not expert in Hebrew Latin and Greek then how can you be sure to trust the translation of the bible that you carry about. That bible was translated by your JW ogas from Greek and Hebrew. They changed many things that are integral to general christian doctrine on the basis that they are not the correct translation of the greek/hebrew. Yet you trust them.

How and Why do you trust that bible that is so different from other bibles when you don't know any greek and hebrew yourself?

Take it up with JW Ogas according to you and leave Nairalanders alone on speaking Hebrews, I did not need to know Hebrew Language before using King James Bible grin

Is that a new condition before i read any translation i like?

You will come here dey blow Hebrew for us instead of going to the Bible translators to quarry them you come dey disturb us for Nairaland with Hebrew Language. grin

If you have not been faithful on what is least like accepting what you have posted before on a language i can even read, why should i trust you sef on your Hebrew Language in a language i don't even understand?

What we need is to discuss Christian doctrine not to show up that we can speak Hebrew and Greek Language with a wicked heart.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 4:00pm On Nov 20, 2017

PastorAIO:
Good gosh, I have been on Nairaland for quite a long time you are right there. But where you are lying is where you say that I've been attacking Jehovah's Witnesses since I came to Nairaland. I haven't even addressed the JW matter in any thread. If you say I have then you have to show me the thread where I did. Otherwise, hold your peace

I started investigating JW when I got shocked by the manner that you and JMAN are conducting the discussion. It is pitiful. And now you want to scatter the issue by spewing random nonsense at length and tossing ad hominems back and forth in the hope that it will obfuscate the issue. O ma se o!

Like I said, I'm investigating JW and as I dig up more info I'll be posting it. Why? to better understand your methods of argument so that if I or anyone else engages you in discussion again we'll know what to expect.

It is now at your age that you have heard about JW and wants to investigate them right?

Why not bring out their doctrines and examining them here in the light of scriptures and proof them wrong? that would be better and easy for all to see and even open peoples eyes the way Freeze the OAP is opening peoples eyes on Tithing. grin

Your statement that it is now that you at your age you are starting to investigate JW is very suspicious. (He has been online as a mature poster since 2008 hence not a kid).

Hence, this Is one of the subtle lies and cunning you employ on the weary naive people. Dont JW knock on your Doors?

It is the truth that will save people, hence bring up the truthful Bible teaching and let us learn.

I hope i am not even forgetting that you don't even take the bible seriously sef, afteral you belief that the Catholic Church gave us the Bible, I wonder why you will now want to waste your effort to use it to help people.

You are better off with PROPAGANDA.

Enjoy.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 3:43pm On Nov 20, 2017

PastorAIO:
Just to get it clear who brought up the issue of winning.

Be sure of what? that you never said you have won and later denied of ever saying such? did i tell you "You have won the argument"? No.

I ask you a question with regard to your intent for posting the initial video and you came out to say you had won the argument when Jman05 did not answer your questions.

That is not even the point, the point here is that you denied ever saying you have won the argument. Simple.

Do you want to turn this one upside down on its head again?

Abeg, stop lying and twisting facts.

Enjoy.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 2:31pm On Nov 20, 2017*

PastorAIO:
I'm just getting started. I admit that I'm actually doing my ongoing investigations at the moment so it is a work in progress, however I can be updating you guys with new expositions as and when I discover it.

Kai! Pastor, You can lie o. Did you say you are just starting on the matter of attacking JW In this world? grin

That is a big fat lie, you have been on this forum from time immemorial, and your likes and Joe and the rest have been on a mission on this on nairaland.

See when you joined and you said you are getting started. It rather appeared you are an old timer. Lol.

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PastorAIO:
Actually the bible was originally in Greek and the Roman catholic Pope Damasius commisioned the Latin bible so that in western europe where they spoke Latin, not greek, the common people could understand it. that is why it is called the Vulgate from the Latin word for 'common'. Also where we get the word Vulgar.

The problem with you is that it is people like us that are not expert in Latin, Hebrews and Greek language that you keep speaking this foreign ancient languages to and expecting me to understand and give a explanations on, while you leave those that are expert on it to sleep. LOL grin

That is why i don't answer you when you get started, when you start forming local champion among laymen. Find your mate on those languages and leave us to rest. The orthodox Churches use to compulsorily send their priest to learn Latin while they leave the bible in that dead language of Latin and the ordinary people like me could not read the Latin Bible. They were at the mercy of the priest to know what is in the Bible. That is what i call evil control mechanism. Till today, this Orthodox churches still pray on their loud speakers using Latin to the church members.
While they leave the Bible in that dead language, they go on teaching the people Purgatory, they will progress to ask them to pay money for prayers for the soul of the dead to be moved from Purgatory to heaven grin

Smart way you guys made money eeh. LOL. grin

PastorAIO:
It was generally understood that there was a problem with translations. There is so much nuance that is lost in translation and that is why the Church was very apprehensive about translations because of the effects it could have on distorting doctrines.

For that reason the church were killing those they found with bible and translating bible right? As exemplary Christians i supposed their acts were right, same anger like the one you are venting out on this thread because someone dared to argue a Bible stance with a Church father like You right. grin

Between you and the others, who is exuding evil and bitterness now? Like father like son. If not for internet you would have been plotting to get people killed for arguing the Bible with you. Christ will be very impressed with you and your kind. How Christ like!

PastorAIO:
You think I'm as shallow as you.

No, you are not. You are a PASTOR grin

How can a pastor be shallow grin

With the ability to speak many Ancient Languages and does not collect salary from it in the Church. cool

PastorAIO:
Unlike you it is not about winning for me.

Yeah True!

You never said you won. grin

You can lie o. How are we then sure that those your Hebrew and Greek grammar you have blowing for us that don't understand it is not containing lies since you can lie on simple things like the above?
Denying what you just said some few post back.

The next think i will add to your name is Mr liar. Na lie? have you not lied just now by saying you won the Thread and later denied saying so?

PastorAIO:
The fact that I won is neither here nor there. And no, it does not give contentment. Stop thinking that everyone else is as shallow as you. You think that you can bribe me to keep quiet by saying that I won. Think again!

Lol. See you trying to lie on my head. Was it me that said you won or i was just quoting you? cool

How can one trust you self again?

And you need to stop having hot temper and anger, it is not really Christ like. Like a Christian you claimed to be.

PastorAIO:
I wish you peace too.

Thanks

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The Below is just to refresh your Lying brain when you posted that the argument has already been won since you reset to default lying mode:

PastorAIO:
The argument has already been won, since you've failed to answer any of my basic questions.

I did not present the video as an argument for whether Moses knew Yahoo's name or not.

I presented the video in order to demonstrate that the reason why you will not answer the questions and are ducking and wriggling so much is due to the wider issue which is that you belong to a controlling Cult that has dominated your mind.

With some understanding of how the JW organisation works we can have a clearer understanding of your methods and why you fail to answer simple questions in this discussion.

See the Time on this thread and page that it is copied from here:
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 7:43pm On Nov 18

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 11:42pm On Nov 19, 2017

@tintingz

Mr.

My work with you here is...................................................... DONE!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 7:58pm On Nov 19, 2017

PastorAIO:
Oh 'finesse'. It hasn't deserted. I just reserve it for appropriate situations.

With ignoramuses I use the means that will help expose them.

You belong to a controlling cult. This cult will not allow you to think for yourself. Hence a simple issue of the first person present particle - I am - and instead of a simple straight answer you all dance atilogwu.

Since it is impossible to have a simple fact based discussion with you then I have to expose you thoroughly.

Have you succeeded in your exposition rendezvous?

I don't think the sleep is entering you still.

Such hate was why Orthodox churches killed people for simply possessing the bible and translating it to the common man language like English language, etc...... They had rather preferred that the Bible remain in LATIN so every body goes to them big man in the church like you and they will teach them stuff like purgatory grin

AIO, do you work for wages in a Cathedral/Orthodox Church? You remind me of Tithe collecting pastors that defend the tithe because their salary comes from it grin

But how do you exposed a set of people that goes to every ones houses all over the world? don't they have enough exposure already? grin

Why not have peace and the assurance that you won like you insinuated?

Should that not have given you contentment?

See the others on this thread you started with went their ways and forgot this thread being contented but you, You could not rest and came back to post a video with a contrary message and topic to the thread, is that called trolling? grin

A thread you won you could not leave like you have done to the other hundreds of other threads in Nairaland you had won before this. or, did you loose those other ones hence your not going back? cheesy

Enjoy with your wining.

Just have peace.

Peace.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 6:46pm On Nov 19, 2017*

Why did You rather insulting instead of making your point and show why mine is wrong instead of Calling on me as writing nonsense,?

Did you notice you have started dancing and vomiting like a headless snake?

I don't need abhorrent style of communication please!

I had initially told you that with your sort not believing in the Bible i don't tango since you will derail to a tangent, this may be the last i will revert unless you are polite.

If am to preach to someone, it is not by compulsion by either side, hence, i cannot imposed on you to accept what the Bible says. So therefore, if i make a post, what you can or should ask from me is a scriptural reference and not all this petulance. No one compels anyone to accept the Bible, so your insistence in furthering this discussion and reacting with such words is unacceptable...... Please.

tintingz:
My question doesn't require an epistle na.

# Oh really Yahweh doesnt kill, then who killed the innocent children in egypt?, what about the innocent children in Sodom and Gomorrah? What about Yahwwh sent his men to kill unbelievers and take over their lands?

When Did i tell you that Yahweh does not kill? Are you ok? did you even read my other post before dropping that post?

If you are still following, I had posted that "Yahweh does not kill innocent people". Why on earth did you input to me that i said that Yahweh does not kill? Was my post that Yahweh is entitle to destroy his own property lost on you?

Don't get me started, get your acts together and stop deluding yourself with deceit.

tintingz:
are you defending and justifying Yahweh's evil act and you will be the same person condemning Allah in the Quran.

Are you a Jehadist with a Jehadist mentality? maybe that is responsible for this, Who is Allah? The word Allah means God in the Middle east hence is Not a name but a title, Satan is also Called a God, So, which God? Satan?

Are you here to defend Satan the Devil? Cant you see the output of the Followers of the Quo-ran? Ant their actions evil till this day? Did you see suicide bombers in the Bible?

Don't get me started!!!!!!

tintingz:
* Again, tell me the difference between Satan actions and Yahweh actions.

Yeah, if you like, that master can be better for you, but like i have said initially, its like you did not comprehend, it is never a crime to destroy ones property, hence, Yahweh that makes the rules for the things he created can never be wrong. He can remove any that does not want to go by his dictate, simple. Children faces the lot of their parents also, If a man is rich, the children get from the riches, if the parents are poor, the children cannot do otherwise. If the Parents were unrighteous or worship other Gods Like the Gods Of Egypt and Amalikite, can you explain why the children will not reap from their parents what they have offered in worship like also in the instance of wealth?

tintingz:
# Secondly, natural disasters have killed over millions of people, is Yahweh not the creator of natural disasters, why cant Yahweh stop natural disasters from killing people?

Comprehension Issue, otherwise you would have understood what i meant before that Satan is the one in control of the world and hence should be held responsible for the bad things that have befallen mankind. Hence, since Satan does not have the power to control natural forces and the outcome thereof.
He initiated a rebellion and Yahweh left Adam to him and their lot and he could not carry after he had given a contrary Order.

Hold Satan responsible for the disaster and not Yahweh.

tintingz:
Sorry, many laws in the bible are barbaric, immoral to me.

Who cares about what you a mortal want when it comes to law making for mankind? you cannot even know what will happens to you at the next turn and you think you have a capacity to make laws. That will be self deceit.

Such wisdom of man has kept the world the way it is now filled with so many diseases, especially for people that don't appreciate good things.

tintingz:
Why did Yahweh create Satan in the first place?

Yahweh did not create Satan just as no father gave birth to a thieve at birth, but rather, the so called thief made himself a thief when he picks up someones else property and he is described as such. So also, Satan made himself Satan when he acted in the ways fitting the names he bears: Opposer and Slanderer meaning Satan and Devil. That is the meaning of the names he is called. He Opposed Yahweh and Slandered Yahweh when he Lied against Yahweh. A thief was never given the name "Thief" at birth, Satan was not created Satan, a beautiful Angel he was that envied and took action against Yahweh.

tintingz:
i need good reason and why cant he just destroy satan,

Yahweh Has concluded plans to destroy Satan, He just does not want people that have not been warned to be destroyed along with the wicked and Satan:
Revelation20:2 and vers 10:

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
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From the Above, Satan will be destroyed. "But Yahweh does not desire any to be destroyed", Because God so love the world of mankind.

tintingz:
instead he gave satan permissions to do evil on humans, they even work hands in hands.

Nope!, Error. They don't work hand in hand. You have limited information.

tintingz:
# What you posted here are just pure nonsense, until you tell me why Yahweh created Satan, then i reply to the myth you wrote up there.

I detest such mode of communication on this thread.

tintingz:
With this do you still believe in the freewill you claim?

Yes i do.

Your difficulty is not generic, or do you think it is generic? Nope! i don't have such difficulties. Freewill is one of the best gift that has ever been given to humans, without it we would have been Robots. No?

That is what made you human, and Yahweh respect the decisions you make with it. You also are held responsible for the way you make use of it.

tintingz:
Why did Yahweh allow evil on humans?

Satan brought evil on humans when he insinuated that humans will do better without Yahweh, when he told Adam that Adam will Decide for himself what is good and what is bad, if Adam can decide for himself what is good and what is bad, what other thing will Yahweh tell Adam to do that will not fall into those two? > either Good or Bad? Hence, Adam and Satan asked for independence from Yahweh.

Also, Adam accepted to apply Satan's Suggestions and Yahweh simply gave time for them to proof and succeed with their claims all this while, why then are you blaming Yahweh as the claim by Satan that Adam Your father agreed to is turning out this Bad and evil?

Blame Satan, He originated it.

Not withstanding, the same Yahweh is extending a new offer through Jesus, But your lot is fighting with it instead of exploring the Bible to see how far. SMH.

tintingz:
Another nonsense, Yahweh encourage slavery yes or no?

Same Here, You could not politely point out what is your stand without insulting.

I detest such.

tintingz:
Let start by asking this, did Yahweh know Adam will eat the forbidden fruit? Is it Yahweh's plan or not?

Nope! Yahweh from the Bible always respected the freewill of humans, he always allows them to make their choices. If Yahweh destined something, he has to ensure it turns out the way he wanted, in Adams case, there is no evidence he interfered and i accept that.

But You humans and Philosophers have coined up some fancy phrases to encompass Yahweh on what he has not said. Words like Omniscience and so forth. There is no such word like Omniscience and its definition in the bible, You are the ones forming words, give it a definition and wish to insert Yahweh into it. Hence, Your cup of Tea.

Peace

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 2:41pm On Nov 19, 2017

Fix

PastorAIO:
I've been sleeping soundly, thank you very much. I don't know what you mean by 'finesse'.

Sleep well this time. cool

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 2:05pm On Nov 19, 2017*

tintingz:
You talked about Yahweh destroying his property and also talked about freewill.

# First of all it depends on the nature of the property you're talking about, destroying a house, table is a non-living thing it doesn't apply here, killing animals is against animal rights, now killing intellectual consceous emotional humans especially innocent ones is barbaric and wickedness.

Yahweh does not kill innocent people. But he removes the wicked and indifferent people. If someone is drowning and you could have help but you walk away and claims indifference, it makes you wicked. If you worship Satan or his demons and forms righteousness, you took the wrong side. If you refuse Jesus and claim indifference you will die since your choice and option is opposed to that of the giver of live.
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Again, it is a given that without law and order there will be chaos.

The giver of live in his infinite wisdom knows that humans need 'HIS' laws to guide them for them to succeed bearing in mind the design parameters he used in creating humans:

Jeremiah 10:23
23 O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
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If the designer knew that what he had design(man) needs his laws to function and live, it becomes obvious to him that deviant is out to cause problems in his design and purpose and intent, not to mention that this deviant can be propelled by an external force that hate the designer.

Now, the designer knows when the action of his creatures are voluntary (wicked intent) and when it is involuntary (ignorance), he also knows when his creatures are influence by this external enemy(Satan).

His Reaction to the actions of his creatures in those divers instances are not generic, he treats them accordingly. When Satan propels people to work towards thwarting of his plans like in the instances of the Amalakites that had reason based known to them to attack a set of Slaves of none existing nation running out of Egypt, and kill their sons and daughters, pregnant women, you wonder why such hatred.

The fact that we don't know the obvious reasons as humans does not mean that Yahweh does not know what was driving that nation as their God (of course, they were not atheist). Yes, Satan knew that Yahweh had plans to produce a Seed via the offspring of Abraham that became the nation of Israel, on their way out of Egypt, he wanted to destroy those Slaves using the Amalakites nation to prevent the coming of the Messiah.

That Yahweh that does not die tells Saul to go and pay them back by wiping off the nation that has Satan as its God, Satan that is an arch enemy of Yahweh, a God that will always use the people of that nation to destroy the nation of Israel at every opportunity like they attempted again during the time of Queen Esther and Modecaiah that Naaman almost wiped out the whole Israelite all because Saul refused to execute the command of Yahweh to completely remove that nation. Some of us yet still wonder why Yahweh will punish disobedient people.

O! As humans, we will be here using our finite knowledge, limited insights and understanding to judge Yahweh. Had it been that Yahweh did not intervene again, the nation of Israel would have been annihilated and the plans to produce the Messiah Jesus through Israel would have been affected. As a Christian, the Messiah coming is a big deal to me.

Such illustrates what happens when humans refuse to follow the instruction of Yahweh like Saul.
Such also shows that there are more that is happening unknown to humans, but Yahweh knows.

Some people being disobedient to the instructions of Yahweh will either do the bidding of Satan or harming other humans.

That Yahweh decides to remove such people out of the way does not make him wicked, but making effort to ensure that his long term plans comes to fruition for the benefit of the obedient ones.

Without removing bad people the good ones will not have peace. A function of Love.

tintingz:
Do you support slave masters suffering and killing their slaves because they own them? Even there is no emotional robots yet, destroying it is nothing.

The idea of enslavement is never a beautiful thing. Agreed.

The notion of slavery as used in the Bible OT is are two different thing, the Idea of slavery as used in the NT is a different ball Game also. But the emotions are wiped up using the understanding of slavery as in the "white man slaving the Black man" as a comparison to what took place in Israel.

If i should tell any difference, you will attack that i am supporting regulation of slavery. grin

I have gone through what the sons of Israel did, i understand it to mean working for the other man to pay off your debt of going under someone as to enable sustenance and make a living till the person can pay off and stand on his own. People can also go under other people for the sake of survival.

The NT mention of slavery was for workmen and others that may have been slaves, that they don't bring reproach to the Christian way by rebelling, but rather, that they set good example to their bosses so that they can preach to their none Christian Bosses to become Christians. This will not make people to conclude that this people are rebelling because they became Christians, thereby bringing distraction to the purpose of Christianity.

I don't want to stretch much on this cause of the sentiments people poor on it.

tintingz:
# Now to freewill, since Yahweh knows the beginning and end of everyone, he has planned everything (destiny), are we acting on freewill or destiny?

Yahweh said he has kept "Live and death before humans" and encourage them to chose. If they can chose, how can it be said that people have been destined?

To me, it is a matter of context and understanding. I have not understood the Bible to teach that all humans have been predestined by Yahweh.

It would be an abnormally for Yahweh to create some people to be criminal and some people to be doing good and do righteous things like others and he Yahweh at the same time said he will JUDGE the both of them according to their deeds, who is fooling who and who is the one that predestined them all at the get go?

If Yahweh predestined people, it will means he is on the wrong to call for their Judgement according to their deeds that he had destined.

To me, It is not what the msg of the Bible is.

Yahweh can sanction things he wish should happened in the future does not implies that all humans have been destined. If i have certain skill and power does not implies that i will use such all the times.

tintingz:
I will like to know why Yahweh want all these to happen and what he wants to gain in all these life saga?

The Bible shoes that Satan actually is the one controlling the world now in place of Adam, that is what he got from Adam when Adam decided to obey Satan instead of Yahweh.

The Bible says that whoever you Obey is your master. Romans 6:16

If Satan is the one in control of the world today, we should rather be blaming him for the evil existing in the world today and not Yahweh. Satan instigated Adam to disobey Yahweh and Obey him instead.

The plans of Yahweh is to remove Satan and cleans the earth. Remove Satan and those Obeying Satan.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 10:33pm On Nov 18, 2017*

PastorAIO:
I've already won the argument, since you've failed to answer any of my basic questions.

I did not present the video as an argument for whether Moses knew Yahoo's name or not.

I presented the video in order to demonstrate that the reason why you will not answer the questions and are ducking and wriggling so much is due to the wider issue which is that you belong to a controlling Cult that has dominated your mind.

With some understanding of how the JW organisation works we can have a clearer understanding of your methods and why you fail to answer simple questions in this discussion.

After winning the argument, you could not have a simple normal sleep till you posted your winning short. grin

You are getting delusional by the day. Your finesse is deserting you or have deserted you hence your resorting to mediocrity extraordinaire.

LOL.

Enjoy.

PS:

His resorting to Attack JW is because his actual intent was rebuffed on this thread

PastorAIO:
I'm just getting started. I admit that I'm actually doing my ongoing investigations at the moment so it is a work in progress, however I can be updating you guys with new expositions as and when I discover it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 10:27pm On Nov 18, 2017

tintingz:
Ok, you only care about what the Bible says.

The killing of innocent children in Egypt by Yahweh in Exodus, is it just?

Make me understand Yahweh's actions and that of Satan.

You only show that you did not understand my initial post on this thread. Go read it again.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 5:06pm On Nov 18, 2017

tintingz:
Your post here those not make sense and it still falls back to Epicurus question, and I'm not buying all those mythical stories you put up there.

Let me ask you, if you have the all power to stop bokoharam evil act, won't you put it to an end? If you don't, what should I call you?

As long as you don't get the Bible argument and you don't understand what the Bible msg is, it becomes strange to you what am saying.

Yes, i won't take Epicurus argument nor even pay attention to it as long as it has nothing to do with the Bible, but i attempted to state what Yahweh's plans are when it comes to fixing the ills on the earth.

Actually, my discussion centers on the Bible and the msg of the Bible, outside that am not game.

Mortals have nothing to offer me when they could not even save their own lives from death.

I am interested in what Yahweh says cause my life depends on whatever he says. Refusal is what has kept man in this lot. Man that cannot change his hair from black to white talk less of giving me eternal life is not worth me taking his philosophy to the Bank

Go ask Adam how far.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 1:58pm On Nov 18, 2017

tintingz:
Tell me how Yahweh and Satan are different?

Here is a logical philosophical question,

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

I don't owe Epicurus any explanation, the reason i am here is because Frosbel2 raised his questions from the Bible, otherwise i would not have had a time to waste with human philosophy.

Based your questions on what the Bible says and i may have one or two things to say.

However, the instance of Adam, Job and Jesus shows that the person Satan has a claim he is accusing Yahweh on, that his ways are bad and that Humans will not be obedient to him, and that his is better, hence he tempts all humans like he did the before mentioned persons above to act the way he Satan wishes> be disobedient to Yahweh.

Every one has to take a stand for or against the opposing stance.

Adam took a stance, Job did and same was Jesus. You either obey or disobey Yahweh. You too have a choice to make, either agree with Satan that humans don't need Yahweh to tell us what to do or you agree with Yahweh that he should tell you what to do like he was telling Adam what to do..

While Yahweh is waiting before taking action, is to give every one equal opportunity in every nation in all the earth. This Process going round the earth started with the nation of Israel and is spreading to all lands. Hence, it will take time to go round.

After it has gone round to all the Earth as a witness to all the nations, then Yahweh will take action. Matt 24:14.

Yahweh has demonstrated that he has all it takes to resolve the issues and sufferings, but on his own conditions.

Haven't been bestowed with the beauty of Freewill, it beholds that your decisions and stance must be taken into consideration on matters that will affect you.

Peace.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 11:50am On Nov 18, 2017

adepeter2027:
Who's attacking you

Lol.

I only wanted you to write more but still, your write up is still reducing. grin

Come on girl, speak out.

Express your stance and misgivings.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 11:32am On Nov 18, 2017*

adepeter2027:
A man without god is something

But

A god without man is nothing

Man always doing the fightin for god who's "powerful"

See Them coming. see them shooting, political people!....... cheesy

Frosbel2 must have been making a lot of people happy with his questions.

But i commended frosbel2 for the questions he is asking, why attacking me? LOL. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 11:19am On Nov 18, 2017

Proudgorgeousga:
the length people go to defend the tyranny of the so called loving God, is astounding.

I never asked anyone to create me by the way.

Are you afraid of really speaking out?

Please do, it wont bite.

throwing aspersion and tantrums is for the lazy minds.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Are Those That Peddle The Word Of God For Profit ? by truthislight: 11:05am On Nov 18, 2017

bloodofthelamb:
ANOTHER TRUTHFUL QUOTE.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Soon A Mighty Ocean by truthislight: 11:01am On Nov 18, 2017

frosbel2:
God is preparing for an Ocean of knowledge to sweep away the falsehoods and lies of self appointment men of god , opportunity pastors , outright miscreants in the pulpit and occult men like TB Joshua.

As the bible predicted in Daniel , knowledge will increase before God brings final judgement on this world and then the whole earth shall be filled with the knowledge of God.

There will be no place to hide for the thieves and crooks parading as men of god , their silver and gold will not be able to save them on that notable day of the Lord God. All their ill gotten wealth including themselves will be consumed by fire and their name shall perish eternally.

Little revelations here and there are gradually turning into an avalanche of truth against these diabolical men and others who have turned the Pastoral role into a means for self enrichmen , absolute control and Lordship over all .

Their judgement does not linger and we will not relent in exposing their falsehoods , half-truths , wonderful bullsh1t testimonies being paraded as miracles and their lust for anything but God , holiness , truth and integrity.

Away with their tithe scams , hell and heaven myths and other related cunning fables.

Reminds me of what one OAP guy Freeze is doing with them in Nigeria. grin

But the fact is that the truth has been there in the Bible just that greed for the promises of prosperity has been blinding them and making people live for miracle. Following the miracle maker.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Allows Destruction And Calamity by truthislight: 10:37am On Nov 18, 2017

frosbel2:
"I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the LORD, who does all these things" - Isaiah 45:7

"Is it not from the mouth of the Most High That both good and ill go forth? " - Lamentations 3:38

"But an evil[a] spirit from the Lord came on Saul as he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. While David was playing the lyre" - 1 Samuel 19:9

"For the LORD will pass through the land to strike down the Egyptians. But when he sees the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe, the LORD will pass over your home. He will not permit his death angel to enter your house and strike you down" - Exodus 12:23

"When the angel stretched out his hand toward Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD relented from the calamity and said to the angel who destroyed the people, "It is enough! Now relax your hand!" And the angel of the LORD was by the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite" - 2 Samuel 24:16

"If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee" - Exodus 15:26

"The Lord has prepared everything for his purpose— even the wicked for the day of disaster" - Proverbs 16:4

Beautiful post @Frosbel2

When one really does read his bible and develop thinking ability and a sense of justice he has, he will not fail to ask those question.

I did.

Well, The issue here is the intent of the heart that is asking, is it with the intent to know why or with the intent to scandalize

The intent is key, cause there is one that searches the heart and the one searching here will not be the one to help a crooked heart, a crooked heart becomes evil to him.

First off, it is ERROR for humans to use human standards to judge the almighty. yes, when you do that you go wrong full throttle.

To illustrate, a man found it wrong that a Creator killed humans.
As noble as the above may sound, and as honest as the quarry may be, it does not make it right. Why?

Well, it is an affront to confront me for destroying my OWN property. If you run to a burning car, you may wish to put off the fire, but if it is pointed out to you that the owner is over there and he is the one that set it on fire you can only ask why? Yes WHY? Any other effort against the owner can get you into trouble, cause one is entitle to destroy his property, fighting me for destroying my Rags is an abnormally.

Such as the above is the logical stance that should be applied to Yahweh. Yahweh can destroy his property whenever he so wishes based on the standard he has set for them and himself. And humans are his property.

The same Judge that recommends reward is the same Judge that will recommend the death sentence. besides, it is rash for someone to draw conclusion without getting all the facts, modesty prevents one from falling into that trap.

It is and will always look like an irony to me to conclude that the one that endowed me with "FREEWILL" is the bad guy when i know if i were the one i would never have given FREEWILL to my creatures.

We don't always have all the facts and the whole pictures when it comes to Yehweh, considering especially that he reads the heart and knows the intentions of those he is judging.

A loving father that so cherished the daughter expressed so much love, but the day she got pregnant out of wedlock the father beat her with such venom that people watched in horror. is it not the same father capable of loving the daughter that beat her?

Yahweh is just as rational as that father and has the capacity and beyond to punish a wrong doer as he deemed necessary. Were humans not created in his image?

Again. If with a sling i went out of my way and was guiding someone on a cliff to support him, and this one i was guiding turned wicked, if i should leave the sling, what will happened to such a person?

If Yahweh, via his Holy spirit was helping Saul the king and Protecting him from evil, then this Saul turned wicked wanting to killed someone else that Yahweh love, If yahweh gets angry and abandons him, what will happen to Saul?

That the man i was helping on a Cliff with a string falls after i have left the string, am i the one that pushed him? NO!

That Yahweh abandons Saul and bad things happened to him, it does not mean Yahweh is evil, nor does the fact that i left the string supporting someone wicked makes me a wicked man. Rather, it shows that i hate evil.

Yahweh has the balanced capacity to exude blessings and exude punishment just like you and me. Is it only you that can punish evil and Yahweh cannot? Your good spirit is blessing and your bad spirit is punishment. Just a matter of nomenclature.

The story can be very long on what you have posted that we cannot exhaust it all here, but i can only say to you, keep a honest heart and never get angry with the one that gave you FREEWILL, never be angry with the one that gave you this ability to ask all this questions.

Peace.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 8:56am On Nov 18, 2017*

PastorAIO:
Pedophilia is everywhere, but what is the attitude of an organisation when it gets discovered? Even when the Catholic church covered their own didn't we all halla? Even Catholics on NL here cried out. So I want to see if an JW's will denounce the practice and it's cover up in their organisation.

LOL.

I WAS THINKING IT WAS ONE CLOWN CALLED OLADEGBO OR SOMETHING THAT POSTED THIS BUT NOT KNOWING IT IS THE MIGHTY AIO. wink

HOW TIMES CHANGES THINGS. SMH.

SO, THE JW ARE THE SOLE MOUTH PIECE FOR THE BIBLE/OT THAT YOU FEEL THAT ON A THREAD LIKE THIS THE BEST WAY TO WIN THE ARGUMENT AND GET AT THEM IS TO SCANDALISE THEM RIGHT? LOL. grin

THAT IS WONDERFUL.

SO WITH THE ABOVE YOU HAVE WON THE ARGUMENT NOW RIGHT? O YES! THAT VIDEO CONTAINS ALL YOUR ARGUMENT THAT MOSES DID NOT WRITE THE FIRST FIVE BOOK OF THE BIBLE RIGHT?

NO, IT CoNTAINS THE ARGUMENT THAT YAHWEH WAS UNKNOWN BEFORE MOSES INTRUDUCTION, YES! grin

HEHEHEHEHEHE.

DO YOU NOW SEE HOW YOUR BRAIN WORKS? YOUR CHRISTIAN KIND OF BRAIN IS ALWAYS SCHEMING EVIL FOR OTHERS?

WELL, SUCH KIND OF MIND SET WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KILLING OF CHRIST APOSTLES BY SO CALLED RELIGIOUS PEOPLE. HENCE, FILL UP THE CUP OF YOUR FATHER, CAUSE YOU ARE FROM YOUR FATHER.

THE HATER HAS ITS CHILDREN AS HATERS.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Integrity Of The Gospels by truthislight: 7:22pm On Nov 05, 2017

Joagbaje:
1Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Joe, the application of this Scripture here is very wrong.

Like you and others had said, nothing is wrong for one to question his long held notions, hence, doing that cannot be demonic.

We have to give Frosbel2 the benefit of doubt and not pass judgement on him. Passing on your views/opinion is the best we can do but never to pass judgement on anybody.

Only God can do that.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 2:11pm On Oct 27, 2017

PastorAIO:
I'm not going to ask you for any example of how Jewish (actually Hebrew) use of name differs from any other tribe because I know you are just jiving and trying to obfuscate the issue.

I have something meaningful for any reader of this thread and that is that your are deceitful, and quite unintelligent in your attempts to mislead. Your scam is clear to all but the daftest.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 7:49pm On Oct 24, 2017

PastorAIO:
Truthislight. Please explain yourself.

Are you saying that I Am that I am is a separate name from YHWH that has nothing to do with it?

Have you found out what an acronym means yet? Do you agree that YHWH is an acronym?

-Wikipedia

No one today knows the full name that was written as YHWH. You claim Jehovah. Just as well might be Yahoo-waahoo for you.

Haba, why you go delete am na?

I was under the impression that you and the other discussants were all reading from the same hymn sheet so if someone says that I Am what I am is YHWH and you are defending the person then I presume that is your position too.

To be honest your position is no longer clear, you've over dribbled yourself.

This all started from Exodus 6:3.
YHWH said his name is YHWH and he did not reveal himself to Abraham as YHWH. Yet we see evidence that YHWH was used before Moses' time.

To defend this you (or whoever) brought in I am who I am saying that they didn't know the full power of the name and YHWH was saying that they are about to see the full power. (no one has answered me on how he demonstrated the full power)

Finally, are you trying to pull as fast one with all that 'this is my memorial to all generations' etc.

If YHWH and I Am are two different names then why is it not YHWH that will be his name forever?

This is verse 15:

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YHWH God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

What I get from your posts is that YHWH and IAM are two totally different names with nothing to do with each other.

In that case you can argue that YHWH is not an acronym for IAM .....bla bla. I'll accept that.

but that does nothing for the initial problem which is that YHWH claims that Abraham did not know his name YHWH while there is a record of Abraham calling him by that name.

It's like the other discussant has given up and left and am beginning to understand the reason why. If at this point with all the post i have made you can still come up to say you don't understand what i have been saying, then am perplex at your rigid mind set and narrowness to your thoughts.

For the sack of fairness, let me state again what i have stated all along, which is:

That the discussion Yahweh had with Moses was to let him(Moses) to get the meaning of his name which is contained in the Initial statement he gave to Moses in verese 14 of Chapter 3 >I AM THAT I AM<.

That, Yahweh said it is his name for ever. Implying that "I AM THAT I AM" is the meaning of Yahweh, Hence, Yahweh could also as well Refer to > YHWH < as his name as well that will last for ever.

If you don't want to see I AM THAT I AM as the meaning of Yahweh, that is your cup of tea.

(Acronym can be form by taking the first later of a phrase to form a word, which YHWH is NOT such to "I AM THAT I AM" ).
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If For instance, i bare the name 'Indomitable' and it means "THAT CANNOT BE GOVERN" does not mean i will be introducing myself by the phrase "THAT CANNOT BE GOVERN". NO. And not on a serious matter or instances like Yahweh to Moses.

I can only tell you such if i have reason to explain to you who i am in an instance that i am angry and challenged, i can tell such a foe that i will let him know that i am :"THAT CANNOT BE GOVERN". (As in the instance of YHWH to Pharoah)

That is the way normal communication goes.

It is up to you to take what you want, that Yahweh rather introduced himself to Moses Firstly with an acronym.

(Note that verse 14 comes before verse 15 in that exodus chapter 3.)

Peace.

PS:

"UNICEF" is an acronym for "United Nation International Children Emergency Fund".
(I cannot see how YHWH is the .....................For I AM THAT I AM)

Christianity Etc › Re: Integrity Of The Gospels by truthislight: 6:26pm On Oct 24, 2017

frosbel2:
Hi Goshen , yes indeed - everything is okay with my soul, I am still studying to show my self approved unto God

Better!

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