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Islam for Muslims / Re: UNESCO Declares Islam As The Most Peaceful Religion Of The World by truthman2012(m): 11:39am On Jul 08, 2016
johntredon:
UNESCO declares Islam as the most peaceful religion of the world

PARIS: In a major development that should silence critics of Islam who have been blaming it for terrorism, UNESCO has declared that Islam is the most peaceful religion of the world.

The United Nations body released a statement earlier today that revealed that UNESCO had partnered with International Peace Foundation six months back to study all religions of the world and find out which was most peaceful amongst all.

“After six months of rigorous study and analysis, we have concluded that Islam is the most peaceful religion,” Robert McGee, head of comparative studies wing of International Peace Foundation declared in a press conference that was attended by UNESCO officials too.

When asked about the terror attacks being carried out in the name of Islam, including the recent ones in Dhaka and Baghdad, the UNESCO official denied that it had anything to do with Islam.

“Terror has no religion,” he said, “Islam means peace.”

To document this official recognition, UNESCO will issue certificates to interested Muslim bodies, which can choose to display them at various places like madarsas, Islamic study centers, mosques, halal stores, slaughterhouses, etc.

Junta Ka Reporter was also given a copy of certificate so that we can display the same to our readers. A copy has also been put in the office of our founder Mr. Mofat Javed.
A copy of the certificate issued by UNESCO.
“Right Wing organizations should stop maligning Islam and Muslims at least after this certificate from UNESCO,” our founder editor Mofat Javed hoped.

The certificate and announcement from UNESCO has been welcomed by world leaders and religious leaders across the world. Dalai Lama is reported to have asked other religions to learn from Islam and try to be as nonviolent and compassionate as the religion of peace.

However, some Muslim scholars have said that the act of UNESCO was not needed as Islam was already the best and final religion, and a certificate to the same amounts to trivializing the issue as it states the obvious



http://www.juntakareporter.com/world/unesco-declares-islam-as-the-most-peaceful-religion-of-the-world/

And which religion is the most violent ?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Did Abraham Succeed Making His Family Muslims? by truthman2012(m): 11:35am On Jul 08, 2016
annunaki2:


They have a terminology for this sixth pillar: "al taquiya" grin it's a religion built with lies, deception and violence and it's also being sustained with same.

Succinct !!!

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Did Abraham Succeed Making His Family Muslims? by truthman2012(m): 11:04am On Jul 08, 2016
true2god:
Lies are usually unsustainable for far too long. How can muslims lie to us, without blinking an eye-lid, that the fist human being lived in mecca even when science, history and facts say otherwise?

For sure, the 6th pillar of islam is lies.


Once a liar always a liar. Not only the 6th pillar of islam, so many other lies are found in the quran.

When Muhammad was to marry Zainab, the wife of his adopted son, allahh said there was nothing wrong with it and that the people of old did the same [Quran 33:37).Till date, no where can we find another prophets or persons who married the wife of his adopted son before Muhammad.

When Muhammad received message or revelation from islamic Satan, which would have made him a false prophet, Allah came to his rescue by consoling him and said none of the past prophets before him that didn't receive revelation from Satan equally [Quran 22:52 YusufAli]. But nowhere can we find any prophets who received revelation from Satan like Muhammad.

When Muhammad marry the wife of his adopted son, Allah said from then, muslims would find no difficulty in marrying the wives of their adopted sons. This is found to be a lie as he cancelled children adoption shortly later. [Quran 33:37].

With those lies and other inconsistencies in the quran, how can any sane person believe it as the word of God?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Did Abraham Succeed Making His Family Muslims? by truthman2012(m): 9:47am On Jul 08, 2016
Muslims, be honest to yourselves, why would Abraham exclude his main wife and other children from islamic worship in Mecca if he was truly the founder of islam there?

I challenge muslims to show where other members of Abraham's family: Sarah, Isaac, Jacob and other Bible prophets participated in islamic worship in Mecca.

I also challenge muslims to prove that Adam was living in Mecca to have solely built Kaaba.

If you cannot answer the questions, it shows islam is a deception and it is an insult on your
God-given intelligence to be cheaply deceived by the Devil.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Allah Was Mutaleb Worshipping As An Idolater? by truthman2012(m): 9:18pm On Jul 07, 2016
DabELLs:


CHRISTIANITY IS THE NUMBER ONE IDOL WORSHIPPING IN THE WORLD. YOU SHOULD ASK PAUL WHY CHRISTIANS WORSHIP ON SUNDAY. EVEN DECEMBER 25TH IS THE DAY THAT SUN god WAS BORN. ASK THOSE WHO KNOW THE HISTORY, THE REAL DATE OF BIRTH OF JESUS WAS AROUND JUNE JULY.. CHRISTIANS WERE DECEIVED TO WORSHIP THE SUN(SON)... Google the the ORIGIN OF TRINITY AND SUN WORSHIP AND CROSS. ALL THE TEACHINGS OF CHRISTIANITY WAS BORROWED FROM SUN WORSHIP/PEGANISM .

Trash !!!!

Do Christians have sun as their symbol as muslims have moon as their's?

Does sun shine only on Sundays? How is it SUN-day?

What happens to Church services on Sundays there are no sunshine?

Do Christians look out for sun in doing anything as muslims wait for moon to start and end ramadan?
Islam for Muslims / Did Abraham Succeed Making His Family Muslims? by truthman2012(m): 7:44pm On Jul 07, 2016
All we hear in islam is how Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba and established islam in Mecca. We also hear of how Hagai was running up and down a mountain looking for water in hadith. No mention of Sarah and Isaac in islamic worship.

But the quran says and I quote "And We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed, and We gave him his reward in the world, and lo! in the Hereafter he verily is among the righteous (Quran 29:27 Pickthal).

The above explains the fact that prophethood and Scripture were established for Isaac and his seed i.e his children. If this is true from the quran, no family has the right to produce any prophets or Scripture. Undoubtedly, Muhammad was not from the seed of Isaac, meaning he hcad no right to be a prophet or produce any Scripture.

That is just by the way. If it is true that it was Abraham and Ishmael that established islam in Mecca, I wonder why they didn't carry Isaac, who had the covenant of prophethood along. Not Isaac, Sarah nor Jacob participated in islamic rituals in Mecca. Was islam meant for Abraham,, Ishmael and Hagai alone? Besides, Kaaba is said to be a house of Allah, sanctuary and resort for all mankind, meaning it should be all inclusive. Why was it only Ishamael and his mother alone that recognized it?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 6:30pm On Jul 07, 2016
mustymatic:

Sunday: Old English Sunnandæg (pronounced [ˈsunnɑndæj]), meaning "sun's day." This is a translation of the Latin phrase dies Solis. English, like most of the Germanic languages, preserves the original pagan/sun associations of the day. Many other European languages, including all of the Romance languages, have changed its name to the equivalent of "the Lord's day" (based on Ecclesiastical Latin dies Dominica). In both West Germanic and North Germanic mythology the Sun is personified as a goddess

I have debunked this long ago.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Allah Was Mutaleb Worshipping As An Idolater? by truthman2012(m): 6:24pm On Jul 07, 2016
true2god

Sahih al-Bukhari 6924—Muhammad said: “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and whoever said La ilaha illahllah, Allah will save his property and his life from me (my words: this is a threat that can only come from a criminal).”

No, islam is a religion of peace but the founder used fighting to establish it.

Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The beauty of islam: making enmity with non-muslims.

Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.” (my words: this can only come from an evil and genocidal person like mohammed)

This shows the tolerance of islam and that is the reason muslims shout Christians hate islam.

Al-Bukhari, Al-Adab al-Mufrad 1103 —Muhammad said: “Do not give the People of the Book the greeting first. Force them to the narrowest part of the road.”

Islam is a religion of peace!!!

And to cap it all, mohammed concluded that he had been made victorious by means of terrors. See the hadith below:

Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 220 Narrated Abu Huraira: allahh's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror(cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: allahh's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them). Since mohammed is the mulims perfect man, the muslims have no problem being terrorist.

There is no terrorism in islam but only Muhammad was a terrorist.

Still on who built the kabba, do you suggest we ignore science and archaelogy and accept the islamic narrative that the first man to step on surface earth happen to be in mecca? We are not talking about evolution here but the history of early men which over 90% of anthropologist and archaelogist concluded started from africa. If a portion of science supports the quran muslims will celebrate it as a proove to authenticate the quran but will ignore any scientific findings that rejects the quran. This is hypocrisy and double standard. There is no single proof, remotely or otherwise, that mecca is the origin of modern man and your claim that adam (the supposed first man) lived in mecca. It is a folklore in islamic mythology without any non-islamic authentication.

This alone is enough for muslims to throw away the quran for making false assertion
How could Adam first build Kaaba as he was not created there?
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 10:16pm On Jul 06, 2016
subtle009:
interesting! How does this not face the subject, those are verses to prove to you that sun, stars, moon etc are relevant. And that you determine things with them doesn't mean u worship them. The stars, sun, cloud, moon, etc. All have wat they translate to depending on there appearance and position. Or does it not occur to you there moments people do things depending on the weather change and positions of this components. Swallow some of your pride "Google search, " Biblical astrology" or ask any elderly man close to you about all this things.

Isaiah 47:13
"You are wearied with your many counsels; Let now the astrologers, Those who prophesy by the stars, Those who predict by the new moons, Stand up and save you from what will come upon you.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Allah Was Mutaleb Worshipping As An Idolater? by truthman2012(m): 8:01pm On Jul 06, 2016
Farmerforlife:


Lol. Let me tell you a little home truth bro, just in case you have really deluded yourself into thinking that 'my fellow Islamists' ignore you because of your smartness or your 'convincing' arguments...

-I dont know your level of education, but your writing composition is not always coherent. Other people reading the thread cannot read your mind, so you need to cool down and really make your premise known. Just reread the above comment (and all your other comments) and you will understand what I mean.
-Your arguments are repetitive. You dont seem to understand that asking the same questions in ten different ways until the responder gets irritated is different from presenting clear proof of your premise.
-You do not seem to understand, or even read responses to your questions. You ask, then you answer, your own questions, regardless of what everyone else has responded. You also ignore links provided or evidence presented. I think you should try to take lessons on comprehension techniques, or learn how to listen for the sake of understanding, not for the sake of arguing.
-Like I said earlier, you seem to be on a crusade. You have memorised some twisted points about Islam, probably from anti-Islam websites. You do not really seem to actually understand either the points you raise, or the refutations presented. You just repeat them verbatim and keep on insisting on them no matter how logical the explanation given to you is. The overall technique seems to be to exhaust your debater into silence through irritation, not logic.

You may believe what you wish concerning this thread, I am not really interested, but in the interest of intellectual debate, I advice that you try to up your level of understanding and manner of response, so that your threads may have more credibility, and 'my fellow islamists' as well as others, will not have to face a choice between leaving you to wallow in your ignorant threads, or facing the tedium of responding to the same question in dozens of different ways.

I really wish you well though.

Trash !!!

You accused me of repeating questions, it is because I haven't got satisfactory answers. There is no other religion in which words are more repeated than in islam. You keep reciting the same thing since Muhammad's time till now and yet you have the gut to accuse me of repetition.

Those quranic verses proving Allah as inconsistent are my own words or I do not understand them? Or you mean I should just take your explanations as correct even when I know they are ordinary al-taqquiyah. Those quranic verses I cited above are clear enough to aducate any sane person that Allah is a deceiver. He deceived the muslims to disbelieve the Bible, reduced the spiritual status of Jesus and introduced Arabic idolatry to them as the worship of God.

I have kept asking and no islamists have been able to explain why all of God's prophets didn't talk about islamic rituals they do in Mecca and why even Isaac had no record of participating in the islamic rituals credited to Abraham and Ishamael in Mecca. You will do well to let us know where it is said in the quran or hadith that Sarah and Isaac worshipped islamically in Mecca. Or was islam meant for only Abraham, Ishmael and Hagai? Lies of the Devil.

Abraham never stepped his feet in Mecca, we are told where he lived and died in the Bible. Ishamael also didn't go to Mecca, the Bible tells us where he lived and died.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Allah Was Mutaleb Worshipping As An Idolater? by truthman2012(m): 5:24pm On Jul 06, 2016
Farmerforlife:




I dont want to enter into any arguments with you. From your past history, I can see that you are argumentative, hostile and really not sincere with your questions. You just seem to like wasting people's time, and I dont like entering into silly argument.

Sorry, no disrespect meant.

Lol !!!! grin grin grin

It is now that you cannot refute my post you know I'm argumentative? Al-taqquiya !!!

I knew from the the beginning of my debate with you that you would soon be exhausted as there is a limit anyone can continue to to defend falsehood.

Your fellow islamists are afraid of confronting me and run from my threads in the name of ignoring them. If muslims will not desist from islamic allah who disguised as God and lead people into idolatry telling them it is also the worship of God, at least, nominal and ignorant Christians who would have fallen into islamic trap will be educated.

The simple reason that Allah was going back and forth in his words shows he is not the true God. He would say something is good today and tomorrow he would say the same thing is bad. He kept changing his words for manipulative reasons, saying the latest is the better one (Quran 2:106). Why would God be so weak that he would be wrong and correct himself always?

May God liberate the muslims from islamic deception.
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 3:10pm On Jul 06, 2016
subtle009:
The bible

Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. (psalm 19 vs 2)

Job 38:4, 7
4 "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the Earth?
Tell Me if you have understanding.
...
7 When the morning stars (planets) sang together,
And all the sons of God (angels) shouted for Joy?"

Then God commanded, "Lights come into being in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night. They were for signs, for seasons, for days and years; (Genesis 1:14)

Jeremiah 31:35-36
35 Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the Sun for light by day,
And the laws of the Moon and the stars for light by night,
Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar;
The Lord of the Armies is His name:
36 "If these laws depart from before Me," declares the Lord,
"Then the descendants of Israel also shall cease
From being a nation before Me forever."

GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND, SEEK KNOWLEDGE

How do all these teach you to consult God's creation for divination? Stop the trash and let's face the subject.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Allah Was Mutaleb Worshipping As An Idolater? by truthman2012(m): 2:54pm On Jul 06, 2016
Farmerforlife


I did not claim that the OT has been corrupted BECAUSE it does not mention the Kaaba or hajj (again this is controversial, there are allusiins to both). I said it was corrupted, period, therefore unrelible as a historically accurate theatrise. This is not my own opinion, but the opinion of various Christian biblical scholars who are qualified in the field.
As for your quoted verses, they refer either to promises made by Allah (the first cited verse) or specifically to the Quran (the second cited verse). You can get this from context alone. Just reread the verses with an open mind.

If anyone says the Bible is corrupted, such a person is not a Christian and then wonder where you got Bible Scholars who claimed the Bible is corrupted. If it is corrupted, why do they remain Christians? On which Book is their faith anchored as Christians if the Bible is corrupted? Stop the lies friend.

Again, the quran's inconsistencies about the Bible shows it (quran) is made up. Sometimes it says it is corrupt and sometimes it says it is authentic:

Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving: (And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers (Quran 10:94)
Why would Allah refer Muhammad to the people who were in possession of corrupted Scripture?

Those unto whom we have given the Scripture, who read it with the right reading, those believe in it. And whose disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the loser (Quran 2:121)
Here we are told the problems of the earlier Scripture is the reading, i.e interpretation and not corruption. In fact you are enjoined to believe in it.

And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession (Quran 2:89)
Are you not surprised that the quran says it was revealed to confirm and not to correct the Bible? But then, does it actually confirm or oppose it?

There is no controversy as to whether or not the Bible mentions Kaaba. Nowhere is Kaaba mentioned in the Bible and none of God's prophets recognized it as the house of God. My question remains: why did God's prophets in the Bible not recognize Kaaba and no reference was made to it if it was truly built by Abraham, their spiritual role model?
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 1:25pm On Jul 06, 2016
subtle009:
Wow! religion apart, that people use astrological components and other features of life to make predictions and study things doesn't mean they worship them. It's plain common sense. It's hypocritical to think that way, when nature is the basis of all discoveries. Too bad, Black man thinking the black way

That is divination my friend.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Allah Was Mutaleb Worshipping As An Idolater? by truthman2012(m): 1:10pm On Jul 06, 2016
Farmerforlife

It is the same Supreme Being recognized as the Creator across all faiths. The prophet Muhammad did not introduce Him, he just eliminated the practice of associating partners with Him, or attributing sons and daughters to Him.

You mean association of partners with Allah is the only difference between Mutaleb's worship as an idolarer and Muhammad's islam. How is it possible for idolaters to worship their idols the exact ways Allah is worshiped? How is idol worship COMPATIBLE with Allah's worship if they are not having a common.source?

After Abraham and Ishmael, there were many prophets of God that came, which the quran recognizes, right? Now, tell me, which of them was worshiping God by following islamic mode of worship if it was Abraham who introduced islamic worship? Is their God different from that of Ishamael and Abraham?

How come that prophets from Isaac, Jacob, and Moses to Jesus never went to Mecca to do any of those islamic rituals as Muslims do today if it was Abraham who established islamic worship? Neither the Bible nor the quran, not even hadith say they did. Even the Apostles (Jesus Disciples) never did.

Would those great men of God not visit Mecca and worship there islamically if islam was founded by God?
Religion / Re: . by truthman2012(m): 11:26am On Jul 06, 2016
Avoidhellfire:

YOU PROFESSIONAL LIAR! Yes God mentioned "earrings" in the bible verses you quoted but the earrings there was used as a figure of speech and not literally. also jewelry may have been mentioned in the bible verses but where you there at the time? do you know what jewelry was being referred to? are you trying to imply that God was telling the Israelites to go and borrow jewelry so that they can wear it and look beautiful with it? the bible in several areas is a parable and a christian needs to have Christian intelligence to understand the bible. having said that, THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PIERCING YOUR EARS FOR EARRINGS SAKE AND PUTTING ON "JEWELRY". for example some cultural attires in Nigeria like the female Benin cultural attire has some beaded necklace accessories with it. in such situations the beaded necklace which is a form of jewelry goes with the attire and if a christian woman wears such a necklace although it may still be vanity but it can be argued that it is just an inexpensive beaded necklace that rhymes with her cultural attire. but this is entirely different from taking a needle and defiling the temple of the holy spirit by piercing it so that you can insert earrings. So which is more appealing to satan, a woman occasionally wearing an inexpensive beaded necklace that rhymes with her attire or a woman piercing the temple of the holy spirit with a needle just so that you can put on earrings? a word they say is enough for the wise.

Trash !!!!

Liar? Is it my words or Bible's? You don't know what you are saying.

How could you say God telling the Israelites to take jewelries from Egyptians is a parable? Parable about what?

The Bible passage you classical Christians usually refer to is 1 Peter 3:3-5:


1 Peter 3:3–5
3. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— 4. but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. 5. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands,

This same passage also talks about braiding of hair. Don't your women braid their hair? Why do you take braiding of hair and reject wearing of earrings? Your obedience is incomplete. Why do you wear cloth because the passage also talks about wearing of cloth? You people wear the most expensive cloth. Misinterpretation the Bible.

What the Bible is talking about is moderation or modest dressing and that a woman's beauty doesn't end in outward appearance but what also is inside her.

It is no sin if you don't wear earrings and neither is it a sin if you wear. Their is no proof that the holy women referred to in the passage weren't wearing earring, the most important thing is their faith in God and their submission to their husband.

How does wearing earrings affect God? A woman who wears earrings and commits fornication is not different from the one who doesn't wear and commit the same sin. A woman who wears earrings who fears God and avoids sin is in the sight of God better than a sinful woman who doesn't wear earrings.

Piercing the ear: why do you cut your hair and tamper with God's temple? Why do you cut your nails tampering with God's temple? Are doing these not making you handsome or beautiful? Imagine how you will look leaving them untouched because you don't want to tamper with God's temple.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 10:41am On Jul 06, 2016
alfarouq:
I realise most of the xtians here are challenging not because they want to know but because they are trying to mock but notewistanding I will try to clarify, the Islamic calculation which signify the beginning of a new month is d appearance of a new moon very tiny that its almost difficult to be seen with the naked eye and it lasts very little before it disappears. Every new day the size increases I.e the moon on second day is bigger than that of the first and smaller than that of the third day. It continues like that until it becomes a full moon on the 14 of every month, then it begins to wane. I.e the moon on the 15th day is smaller than that of 14 but bigger than that of 16, it continues to reduce and by the time it gets to around 27 of the month it would have waned completely and disappeared only for it to appear after the 29th to signify the beginning of a new month. If not sighted the month is then having 30 days and a month can't be more than 30 days. On the 30th of every month whether the moon is sighted or its been covered by cloud, a new month will be counted as first. Hope that answers your question

Is it also for calendar you make moon and star the symbol of islam, knowing that moon is worshipped by pagans?
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 8:27am On Jul 06, 2016
kyrios:
cause the was Gregorian calendar is so is lunar do you ask people why they fast during lent?

For your information, lent is not prescribed in the Bible and that is why many Christians, including me, don't observe it. Pentecostals don't observe it. I learnt it also has to do with moon, making it idolatry equally.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/Liturgy/zlitur119.htm
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:33am On Jul 06, 2016
kyrios:
go and study the lunar circle well a lunar month is either 29 or 30 just go online and read articles about lunar circle

How many days have you fasted already?

Why did you stop fasting today after the moon has failed you? Why don't you continue fasting by following your lunar calendar?
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:14am On Jul 06, 2016
ancientbanana:
dem go fast tire o. Moon dit no come show up till next year

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:13am On Jul 06, 2016
Faremisodeeq:
Op. AND PLEASE OP STOP THE INSULT YOU MAKE ON EVERY POST of YOUrs. It not good for matured person like you.
VIEWERS ADVISE: please what op pasted is his own point of view. Please try and use google to get fact. If your sticked to only comments here on nairaland. It will only poison ones mind. Let be more tolerant of each other. And let us seek informaton from experts in such field maybe in our campuses or environment.

Telling you the truth is what you called an "insult"? So you like to be praised lying to you.
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:08am On Jul 06, 2016
arcbay:
I've been on my balcony all night till now but saw no moon o, one joke will later come up and say he saw the moon in sokoto. I don't know if his own sky is in HD and different from every other state.

BTW, I hope the moon keep playing tricks on them so FG should keep extending the break abeg.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:07am On Jul 06, 2016
kyrios:
Muslims make use of the lunar calendar
so that's why they start fasting when the moon is sighted and also stop fasting when the moon is sighted

And why do they end fasting after the moon has disappointed them?
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:04am On Jul 06, 2016
Ifeann:


thanks for posting this perhaps yazach,ypeace , empiree, rilwan and co can explain why the moon is so important to them.. the practice is not in the torah, tanak or new testament.. the pagan tribe of mohammed did this moon god nonsense and now muslims do it.. with the cresent moon and star on there mosques.. idol worship plain and simple..

Thank you my sister, God bless you.
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 7:03am On Jul 06, 2016
tayour917i:

Sentiment apart... You see, you don't use your own level of thinking to rationalize what our creator (God/Allah) had designed perfectly... Many things are beyond human comprehension.. I just felt you should realize God cannot be questioned.

Stop the insult friend, islamic Allah is not my creator. Allah is Satan disguising as God. If allah and Yahweh are the same, why can't you say "Yahweh Akbar"?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 10:08pm On Jul 05, 2016
tartar9:
xtians worship on SUN-days,so therefore xtians worship the SUN.

*xtian logic*

Does sun have a particular day it shines?

In Russian the word for Sunday is Воскресенье (Voskreseniye) meaning "Resurrection".[3] In other Slavic languages the word means "no work", for example Polish: Niedziela, Ukrainian: Недiля, Belorussian: Нядзеля, Croatian: Nedjelja, Serbian and Slovenian: Nedelja, Czech: Neděle, and Bulgarian: Неделя.

The Modern Greek word for Sunday, Greek: Κυριακή, is derived from Greek: Κύριος (Kyrios, Lord) also, due to its liturgical significance as the day commemorating the resurrection of Jesus Christ, i.e. The Lord's Day

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 10:02pm On Jul 05, 2016
Rilwon:
@rashe, please ignore the guy already. Answering his question won't stop him from further asking his foolish question. You are only paying him attention because you don't know him.

The fool didn't know that the lunar calendar is the same thing as Islamic calendar. Even though his great grandfather in yorubaland use the noon as their calender in the past, hence the reason why 'Osu' otherwise 'osupa' (moon) is the yoruba word for month. He will still come here to tell you that Islam use moon as calender because Muslims are worshipping a moon god.

The guy is pathetic in a nutshell

Terrorist, you are welcome on board.

I don't blame you, even your allahh is an insulting and cursing expert. Muhammad himself ended his evil ministry cursing the Jews. Satanists.
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 4:31pm On Jul 05, 2016
Rashe:
smile, ur argument is invalid cos it is clearly stated in d Quran that we shd nt worship no other body other than d Almighty God cos he is creator of everything. Therefore, u comparing Islam 2 pagan is baseless cos Muslim believe only God has d power. besides, u av d right 2 believe what y wanna believe, it is ur choice but next time u wanna argue; seek knowledge on d topic of discourse first so DAT it won't result in u arguing blindly...peace!!

This is absolute trash, undoubtedly. I can see you are unable to answer the questions.

The same Allah who said you should believe in only God says you should copy Satan i.e pagans (idolaters).

[Quran 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (as the pagan custom is). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware.

Which one do we believe now?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ramadan Free Lectures by truthman2012(m): 3:24pm On Jul 05, 2016
Since you islamists didn't ask questions, I have to test your knowledge of the lecture by asking some questions:

Since Ramadan was the festival of pagans before islam as we have it from authentic islamic sources, why do muslims who serve Allah have to do the same?

What do you say the pagans did wrong if both muslims and the pagans are doing the same thing?
Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 3:05pm On Jul 05, 2016
Rashe:
what I meant is that Muslim calendar is approximately accurate, dat is Y d coming out of moon often coincide wit d Muslim calendar but we chose 2 follow d actual day moon is cited cos DAT is d natural means of counting days

You haven't answered my question: if moon comes out on 27th of March, will Islamic 1st April start the following day?

Is it for calendar purposes moon is also a symbol of islam?

Why should muslims choose moon as islamic symbol and also follow the appearance when it was well known that pagans also worship moon?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 2:49pm On Jul 05, 2016
Rashe:
calendar is jus an invention 4 easy counting of days...yes, Muslim av dere calender which was formed by putting in place some natural consideration.. DAT is Y most times, moon comes out approximately d 1st day of each month...

So you mean islamic calendar does not follow the sequence of days? If the moon comes out on the 27th of March the following day is the 1st of April?

Even with that, following the moon to determine your calendar still shows your allegiance to the moon as there are other means of counting days.

Occultists and people who make charms also have such allegiance to the moon. They would tell you the waxing or weaning moon in doing certain spells. The true God has all days for Himself, moon or no moon. Observance of moon in determining anything is pure occultism and idolatry.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: If Islam Has Nothing To Do With Moon, Why Do Muslims Wait For It? by truthman2012(m): 2:45pm On Jul 05, 2016
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