Olarajee:


You can't be asking and answering at the same time. If you know why are you asking? How did the pagans of Arab worshipped pls educate us and how are the Muslims worshipping? You're claiming its same way. How?

Who taught you anything bout the Islamic creed? You don't know what you're saying aboki, you're just making yourself happy. Bring forth your evidence that that's what Islam taught as its creed? Who told you Muhammed is His only messenger? Did you find that in the bible or the Quran or your pastor fed you that?

You're just confused and you're not ready to learn. I can't help you.

Olarajee:


Muhammad didn't bring the worship of Allaah, it started with the creation of man, Adam then to Abraham down to Moses, Jesus and all the prophets sent in between till the seal of all of them, Muhammad.

truthman2012:
The quran claims Allah didn't allow the Jews to kill Jesus, he found someone else to die in his stead.

Quran 4:157-158 Shakir] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Muhammad, allahh's greatest prophet was allowed to eat poison, as a result of which he died. Gabriel prayed for him and promised allahh would heal him, but it was a failed promise as he eventually died after two years of agony. I symphatize with him though because he must have passed through hell for the two whole years.

Then I wonder why allahh would allow Muhammad, his GREATEST prophet to eat poison in the first place and then unable to heal him after he had eaten it?

What was special about Jesus, the ordinary son of Mary and a lesser prophet to Muhammad (according to muslims' belief) that allahh would treat him specially and would not allow the people to kill him disgracefully, while other prophets (including Muhammad) were killed?

Quranic revelation is a deceit as Jesus treatment by allahh shows He was more than a prophet.

truthman2012:
Fighting is a virtue in islam:

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful"
Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
The key statement is fighting in the way of allahh as against muslims claim of fighting in self defence.


Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Muhammad's Implementations of the above Quranic commands:

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'
That shows Muhammad was into terrorism.

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."
This is the exact thing terrorists do.
Yet muslims say there is no compulsion in religion, what an irony.

bn Ishaq/Hisham 990:- Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Can anyone tell the difference between today's islamic terrorism and Muhammad's jihad?

true2god:
allahh's apostate's incessant breaking of oath shows that he is not reliable and a selfish human being.

Olarajee:


You see where you pple ended of shooting yourselves in the feet? Muhammed is never referred to as founder of Islam not by any single Muslims but by ignoramus like you. That was why fools like yourself try refer it as Muhammedanism like Christianity but may it's Islam and you're wrong.

And to your second claim help us with some evidences so that we can at least assume you have some sanity pls.

Moon God? Tell me your pastors fed you those lies too or where did you learn that one? This is a verse from the Quran:

And among His signs are the night and the day and the sun and the moon; do not prostrate to the sun nor to the moon; and prostrate to Allah Who created them, if Him it is that you serve. Quran Fusilat : 38

A [b]moon God[/b]would not forbid you from worshipping the moon or created itself. Make una try geh sense na?

truthman2012:
Is Yahweh the same as Allah ?

What do the Israeli muslims call God ?

If they call God allah discarding the name the Jews know God to be (Yahweh), it clearly shows Allah is not Yahweh the true God. One would expect them to call God in their local language (Yahweh) and not in Arabic language, afterall they are the ones to whom God first revealed Himself as Yahweh.

Rilwon:


Is Yahweh consistent?

Olarajee

The language of Islam is Arabic. God in Arabic is Allaah. But we say Olohun, Chineke, etc depending on the native languages though since these names are already misused, only Allaah is fitting to the most high

hopefulLandlord:


your same god that said he's "not a man that he should lie" but sent lying spirits to Ahab's prophets?

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keep digging your hole

damogul:


I am amazed at how people can easily be deceived by such nonsense from muhammad. He is one of those Prophets whom the bible says will deceive many.

I am compiling a list of errors in the Quran and will open a new thread on that shortly. Will tag u when I do.

damogul:
Before Muhammad the Arabs had 365 gods - one for each day of the year. Muhammad picked Allah (the Arab moon god).

They claim the founder of Islam is a prophet named Muhammad...however Muhammad himself says he is not a prophet and has never personally heard from God...in fact Muhammad who heard voices thought himself it was from evil spirits....his wife encouraged him to change his mind and claim God had spoken to him...

annunaki2:
This is a very tough and uncomfortable question for muslims let's sit back and enjoy what the spin doctors and al taquiya merchants come up with in defence of their moon god.

pdppower:
Ode ni e. It applies to you. It means that you should settle the faults in your Xtianity, your bible and its contradictions before you start 'poking' your ugly nose in other people's religion.

Olarajee:
The problem you have is comprehending what the word mean. The Arabic bible uses the word Allaah when referring to God. Do you get now?

If you ask any idolater what they are worshipping it's always 'God' (Don't mind that you choose to use the small g for them).

The issue now is how's God supposed to be worship. Even the Christians worship God (Allah) but in what way is He to be worshipped? The way Jesus himself worshipped Him or the clapping and dancing worships prevalent today?

Don't get it confused. Is like asking which God is the Chineke my Igbo brothers worship. Igbo Muslims refers to Allaah as Chineke too, I hope you know?

You're welcome

kishimi8:


The all knowing truthman2012 the guy with training in Bible and Quran

pdppower:
Thanks for your 'concern' about Muslims. But I will refer you to Matthew 7:5. I don't know which part of MYOB you don't understand.

kishimi8:


Lol. Ok sir. I don't think we begged you to open our eyes lol.
If Islam leads to hell I will Glady go there thank you for your eye-opener

kishimi8:



Since you already know what it stands for why ask us? . Stick to your non lame answer lol.
Left for you. Why did I even bother answering. Chei I have wasted my mb this early morning

kishimi8:


So , finally decide to confirm what mischief you hiding lol and as we all said it ha no Islamic significance.
Read my replies and stop trying to associate us with pagan worship lol.

Google.

Try harder. Next time anofia

truthman2012:


How does it make sense to anyone that a symbol stands for nothing. What is the meaning of the word "symbol" ?

Symbol is defined by Merriam Webster Dictionary as "an authoritative summary of faith or doctrine"

Then why should you say a symbol stands for nothing? Why do people use symbols, for nothing? Your defence is lame, very lame in deed.

kishimi8:


Like he replied you the moon stands for nothing.

The cresent moon and star is placed on the top roof of a mosque since the reign of Ottoman in Turkey. He made it because cresent moon and star are both the creation of Allah in this universe which decorate the sky and it will give light in the dark of a night and the star can be used to find a direction

R R was used by the ottoman empire as its symbol in Turkey. Nothing more




A star (or stars) and crescent featuring in some combination form the basis of symbols widely found across the ancient world, with examples attested from the Eastern Mediterranean, Persia and Central Asia.[1]

The symbol emerged into popular use during the 19th century as a modernistic national symbol for the Ottoman Empire during the Westernizing Tanzimat reforms. The Ottoman flag of 1844 with a white "ay-yıldız" (Turkish for "crescent-star" on a red background continues to be in use as the flag of the Republic of Turkey with minor modifications. Other states formerly part of the Ottoman Empire also used the symbol, including Libya (1951–1969 and after 2011), Tunisia (1956) and Algeria (1958). The same symbol was used in other national flags introduced during the 20th century, including the flags of Azerbaijan (1918), Pakistan (1947), Malaysia (1948), and Mauritania (1959).

During the 1950s to 1960s, the symbol was re-interpreted as the symbol of Islam or the Muslim community.[2] By the 1970s, this symbolism was embraced by movements of Arab nationalism or Islamism, such as the proposed Arab Islamic Republic (1974) and the American Nation of Islam (1973).[3]

kishimi8:
It doesn't really have a meaning at all. There has never been any real symbol for islam. The very first muslim states used mainly solid colors in their flags. It wasn't until the reign of the ottoman empire that the crescent and star was used in the banner of a Muslim state. And since the ottoman empire controlled the muslim world for a very long time, Christian Europeans naturally began associating the crescent and the moon with the faith islam.

But some Muslims reject the symbol because it is rumored to have a pre-Islamic pagan meaning ( moon worshipping and all that stuff).

Rilwon:


Nothing. Just a creation of God that it is.

shadeyinka:
Can we conclude that :

Christians are generally tolerant of other faith because they don't stand up for what they believe?

And Muslims are intolerant because they stand up for their believe.

ymdo:


Furthermore, when favored, will use the Quran to authenticate the bible e.g. Jesus is mentioned more times in the Quran than Muhammad, therefore, Jesus is Lord!!!

shadeyinka:
By their fruit, you shall know them. Whenever they want to feign peace, they quote: there is no compulsion in religion.

In reality, there is compulsion to follow Islam. Check anywhere in the world where Muslims are majority you will know that religion is by compulsion.

If I was caught as a Muslim stealing or committing zinna (adultery) can I be free from Sharia if I claim that I am no more a Muslim? Will that new confession not lead to my being beheaded?

No compulsion indeed.

annunaki2:


Very good observation, this proves that allah is the personal name of their deity and not a generic name contrary to lies muslims tell when it is convenient for them.