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analice107:
My brother, dont blame him, he is a Muslim. Islam speaks something but means another entirely.

You see sister, the level of islamic hypocrisy is alarming. They say islam is a region of peace when it is so glaring it is was formed with violence. Like the days of Muhammad islam remains violent. Besides, every verse of the quran has its opposite and to defend this allahh said he was substituting his revelations with better ones (Quran 2:106). The question is: who was giving him better ideas? How could God say He has a better idea from what he had previously said? The simple truth is allahh is Satan and to deceive people he had to be inconsistent.

aminusanti:
Psalm 147:5"Our Lord is great and has awesomepower; there is nolimit to his wisdom"

He (Jesus) will slay the Antichrist (Dajjal) and he will stay in the World for 40 years. Then, he will DIE and the Muslims will perform the funeral prayer for him."(Abu Dawud and Musnad Ahmad)

Satanic lie !!!

The Lord the Psalms referred to is not Islamic allahh. Nobody recognized allahh before Muhammad. David was referring to Yahweh.

If Jesus is coming to die, why did he run away for death since over 2000 years ago?

Where did Muhammad get the idea of muslim Jesus coming back since allahh didn't reveal it to him as it cannot be found in the quran?

true2god:
Baca is not just mecca, it is barcelona. So since we also call Barcelona 'Baca', biblical Baca must be in spain. This is islamic logic and argument. No reason, no logic and anti-facts.

mrZENographer:
Ahh and there is also what looks like a female genital sculpture right at the front of it. You know your prophet loved women and has promised 72 virgins for faithful followers. Hehe he.

That genital-like sculpture is the demon of sex. That Muhammad could sleep with all of his eleven wives (apart from his sex slaves) in a day was not ordinary. It is sexual demon. Everything about islam is sex, sex and sex unlimited, even in their fictitious al-jannah.

Rilwon:
Your thread has been debunked sire, admit it.. Stop trying to bring in another argument.

How can you be a judge in your own case?

There is noway anyone can debunk the thread without being able to convince people how Jesus alone is the only human being with flesh and blood in heaven. It would be good for you to stop deceiving yourself.

My friend, I discovered you are dodging my question: ''Why would Jesus not die as quran says he is a prophet like those who died"?

That is not another argument as it has to do with Jesus dying or not and islamic claim that he was taken to heaven alive.

mustymatic:
Don't be a dumbass..read!
It could also mean a religious community or its site, regarded as chosen by God and under his special protection
Zi·on (zī′ən) also Si·on (sī′ən)
n.
1.
a. The historic land of Israel as a symbol of the Jewish people.
b. The Jewish people; Israel.
2. A place or religious community regarded as sacredly devoted to God.
3. An idealized, harmonious community; utopia.


b. a religious community or its site, regarded as chosen by God and under his special protection
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Zion

What is the implication of this?

Complete trash.

Rilwon:
(5:75) The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthfulness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away

Why wouldn't he die as he is not different from others who died?

Rilwon:
Analice107, this thread has been debunked. The OK believe Jesus was indeed raised up to heaven by Allah, he was only questioning how Jesus would survive in heaven with body and flesh. Since he believe Allah raised him up, what's hard to believe in the fact that Allah made him survive in heaven?

What is your comment on this, I know you deliberately skipped it:

"Quran says all prophets before Muhammad died (Quran 5:75), that statement must be a lie if Jesus didn't die. So many discrepancies in the quran, proving alllah is truly a deceiver".

[Quran 5:75 Pickthal] The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away!

This allahh or Muhammad didn't know what he was saying or was simply deceiving muslims. He said Jesus is just a messenger like other messengers who died. That means he also died as he is not different from others who died. Where do muslims keep their brain?

analice107:
Yes, our Heavenly Father Yahweh asked, no, he demands us to ask him questions. He calls us to a round table discussion with him.

Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, says the Lord. Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be like wool.

That's the difference between Yahweh and Allah, you are a slave to Allah, I am a daughter to Yahweh. He loves and respects my feelings.

Now, address the Ops. Don't derail it.

Succinct !!!

plappville:
[size=20pt] Bgam gbam et gbam,!!!![/size]

Sister, how is France now? Quite a few days.

Rilwon:
Mr man your thread has been debunked. No wonder you are not asking questions pertaining it..
Eeeeew!

Quran says all prophets before Muhammad died (Quran 5:75), that statement must be a lie if Jesus didn't die. So many discrepancies in the quran, proving alllah is truly a deceiver.

Rilwon:
Mr man your thread has been debunked. No wonder you are not asking questions pertaining it..
Eeeeew!

Keep deceiving yourself.

DabELLs:
One of the earliest entrances of sun worship into the church was through the spring pagan festival. The festival was celebrated in honor of Eostre (according to the eighth century cleric Bede). The festival often honored a goddess (such as Ishtar), and one of the more popular tales of this time concerned the god Attis, who was said to be resurrected each year during the month of March. According to one tradition, the festival of Attis began as "a day of blood on a black Friday and culminated after three days in a day of rejoicing over a resurrection."3 These spring festivals eventually became the Christian festival of Easter, complete with eggs and rabbits, both ancient pagan symbols of fertility.

At the Council of Nicaea, Constantine also persuaded those in attendance that only one Easter "Resurrection" day should be kept. "Our Savior has left us only one festal day … and he desired to establish only one Catholic Church," he argued. Then he added this significant statement. "You should consider … that we should have nothing in common with the Jews."4

Constantine felt that the Jews were "murderers of the Lord," and therefore desired to blot out any links between Christianity and Judaism. For this reason he persuaded the Christian church to drop the ancient biblical Sabbath, given at Creation, and replace it with Sunday worship. "The Church made a sacred day of Sunday … largely because it was the weekly festival of the sun; for it was a definite Christian policy to take over the pagan festivals endeared to the people by tradition, and to give them a Christian significance."5 Pope Sylvester I (314–335) finally made Christian Sundaykeeping official by decreeing that "the rest of the Sabbath should be transferred to the Lord’s day [Sunday]."6 Perhaps this was Constantine and Rome’s crowning conspiratorial victory—sneaking sun worship into Christianity by exchanging the true Christian day of worship for the day dedicated to ancient sun worship.

We do not recognize Ishtar in Christendom. Ishtar is a name of an idol and not a festival. Easter is a festival and not a personal name. Even by pronouncing Ishtar and Easter you will discover they are not the same.

You only made false assertions, no biblical evidence(s) attached. You copied and pasted the writeup of enemies of Christianity.

Your case is therefore dismissed for want of evidence.

Rilwon:
I already told you that this thread of yours is dead on arrival. So you as a Christian believe that Yahweh plans a unquestionable and expect me as a Muslim to question Allah's plan because of those lies you further wrote?

I understand your plan is to derail your thread by making me dabble into another discussion that has nothing to do with your OP. Sorry, I will pass.

Which lies? The quranic verses I cited? That further confirms quran is bunch of lies.

lordnicklaus:
I do not see any reason for this post. @op the reason you derive fun in arguing with Muslims is because you are a Christian. If you were born a Muslim, of course you would speak in favour of Islam and against Christianity and if the Muslims here were born into Christian homes, they would speak for Christianity. And quoting from your sacred text does not validate the authenticity of your religion cos even a Buddhist would quote the Tripitaka to prove that Buddha is the Messiah.... For me, I would remain a Christian hoping I have made the right choice.

If you are truly a Christian and you believe in the Bible, you would not say what you have said. Jesus said "I am the way the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE nobody can come unto God except by me (John 14:6).

There is no other name under heaven where you can be saved (Acts 4:12).

And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all NATIONS and then the end will come (Mat.24:14).

So if you believe in those Bible passages, why would see islam as another way to God?

lordnicklaus:
I do not see any reason for this post. @op the reason you derive fun in arguing with Muslims is because you are a Christian. If you were born a Muslim, of course you would speak in favour of Islam and against Christianity and if the Muslims here were born into Christian homes, they would speak for Christianity. And quoting from your sacred text does not validate the authenticity of your religion cos even a Buddhist would quote the Tripitaka to prove that Buddha is the Messiah.... For me, I would remain a Christian hoping I have made the right choice.

If you are truly a Christian and you believe in the Bible, you would not say what you have said. Jesus said "I am the way the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE nobody can come unto God except by me (John 14:6).

There is no other name under heaven where you can be saved (Acts 4:12).

And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all NATIONS and then the end will come (Mat.24:14).

Rilwon:
Do you help Yahweh in drafting his plans?
Would you ever question Yahwehs plan?

Yahweh's plans are unquestionable because is not a liar and deceiver like allahh. allahh confessed he is a deceiver, therefore, allahh saying Jesus was raised up to him alive is just one of his deceptions. No bodily being is in heaven, they are all spirits. Besides, allahh is not in heaven, he is roaring around the world looking for who to deceive as he had succeeded in deceiving the muslims.

Good to know that you islamists are coming to term with the truth that allahh is not Yahweh the creator as you have already drawn the distinction.

Allah is a Deceiver

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:
Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

If you believe a deceiver you will have yourself to blame when you die.

Rilwon:
Your thread has been debunked sire.. The above nonsense are topic for another day

So your allahh could afford Muhammad to be killed but have respect for Jesus and prevented him from dying. What a great and respectable Jesus.

Rilwon:
Allah's power is not limited like that of Yahweh.

Thread debunked... Next!

But allahh's power was limited when he promised to heal Muhammad and he couldn't and died of ordinary poison.

But allahh's power was limited as Muhammad couldn't heal ordinary headache.

But allahh's power was limited when his fighters (jihadists) ate poison and were dying and he couldn't do anything to it.

Where did allahh actually demonstrate any power in the quran to show his mightiness?

skywolf28:
Another confused nigga

Trash !!!

How is it possible for Jesus to live in heaven as a human being with flesh and blood among Spirit/spirits? A simple question.

DabELLs:
CAPITAL "YES".

Bring your evidence.

Avoidhellfire:
Yes you could be a liar because you are trying to deceive women into believing that the vanity of wearing earrings is not sinful. And yes it could be figure of speech when God told the Israelites to go and borrow jewelry, may be not a parable as you falsely accused, but may be the jewelry and gold that was being referred to meant golden cups and wares required for domestic use or something of that nature. I was not there at the time and neither were you but one thing I do know is that God did not tell the Israelites to go and borrow gold and jewelry like earrings to wear so that they can look beautiful with it.
What do you mean by saying that the bible passage you classical Christians usually refer to is 1 peter 3:3-5? Wasn’t I the one that stated in the original post that deceivers use these verses to deceive by lying that women can wear earrings as long as they don’t let their beauty come from it?
What do you mean by saying that my obedience is incomplete and what do you mean by saying that why do I take braiding of hair and reject wearing of earrings? Did the bible say that it is compulsory for women to braid their hair? So what do you mean by saying that why do I take braiding of hair and reject wearing of earrings? Also did the bible say that it is compulsory for women to wear jewelry? So why are you trying to deceitfully imply that the bible encourages jewelry? The bible only states that women should not let their beauty come from braiding and jewelry it did not say that a woman must braid her hair or wear jewelry so why are you trying to drag the bible in the mud by insinuating that the bible encourages jewelry wearing and braiding of hair? You said that don’t Christian women braid their hair? you should note that the braiding being referred to in the bible was probably “plating”. I am sure the bible was not referring to the braids of today where “Brazilian hair attachments” will be attached to a woman’s hair. The braiding being referred to there was plating and plating your hair is not immodesty. But hair attachments is immodesty because you loved the world so much that you took someone else’s hair to attach to your own body not for surgical reasons but for that sake of vanity.
You said that what the bible is talking about is moderation or modest dressing and that a woman's beauty doesn't end in outward appearance but what also is inside her. You also said that it is no sin if you don't wear earrings and neither is it a sin if you wear and that the most important thing is their faith in God and their submission to their husband.
UNBELIEVABLE! Haven’t I revealed deceivers like you already? Dear true Christians on nairaland, didn’t I warn of deceivers like this in the original post? Didn’t I warn that some professional, gentle, cunning, smooth talking, deceitful polite infiltrators of the church will come and say that all that matters is the heart and faith of woman and that wearing earrings is okay as long as she doesn’t take too much pride in it? Didn’t I warn that it was a gentle lie like this that deceived Eve?

You said that how does wearing earrings affect God? You also said that a woman who wears earrings who fears god and avoids sin is in the sight of god better than a sinful woman who doesn't wear earrings. YOU DECEIVING SERPENT! IT WAS A SERPENT LIKE YOU THAT WALKED UP TO EVE IN THE GARDEN. For your information sin is sin, you cannot commit the sin of piercing the temple of the holy spirit and putting on earrings on one hand and try to redeem that sin by claiming to avoid other sins in the sight of God.

You said that why do you cut your hair and tamper with God's temple and why do you cut your nails?
Didn’t I counter this deceit of yours in the post when I used the example of the beaded necklace? Didn’t imply that there is a big difference between some moderate grooming and defiling the temple of the holy spirit by piercing it for vanity? Cutting of hair and finger nails is totally different from a woman taking a needle and piercing her ears for the sake of vanity.
TO CHRISTIAN WOMEN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED, TAKE OFF YOUR EARRINGS AND REPENT

Your choice of language does not portray you as a true Christian. Christians don't insult or abuse people the way you are doing. I doubt your intention in the post.

How many women did you hear was rejected in heaven because of earring? How many did you hear made heaven because of not using it?

You couldn't substantiate you claim biblically.

Stop your man-made doctrine brother and stop discouraging women from going to heaven. Your message does more damage than good.

Scholar8200:
This is insightful! Especially when you consider the fact that God told Moses that no man can see Him(not the Similitudes Moses had seen ) and live, how then would JESUS (if He wasnt crucified and resurrected) be stationed near that same God?

Thanks bro.

Allahh lied by saying Jesus was raised to him flesh and blood to live in heaven. Allahh is not God.

A lie is being told by somebody here. His name was Nicholas Martins and now Ismail Haruna. If you convert to islam do you also change your father's name?

Beside, he said he is more comfortable with islam than Christianity, showing he was once a Muslim and only pretended to be a Christian to please Bishop Oyedepo his boss.

mustymatic:
There is no valley on earth called Baca (or Bakkah) that contains a house of worship and a spring of water (Zamzam), in which one prayer is better than a thousand prayers offered anywhere else, other than Makkah al-Mukarramah.

Baca (Bakkah) is one of the names of Makkah. This name is mentioned in the Holy Qur’an, where Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning)”

“Verily, the first House (of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), full of blessing, and a guidance for Al-Alameen (the mankind and jinns)”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:96].

But the translators and commentators of the Old Testament distorted the word Baca to buka’ [weeping or crying; the Hebrew cognate denotes the same meaning], even though the meanings of place names should not be translated; rather the name should be transliterated, and even though the meaning of the (original) name has nothing to do with crying or weeping, as a result of their desire to eliminate all references to anything that is proven in the Holy Qur’an, such distortions occurred.

The following verses are from The Bible's book of Psalms, Chapter 84.

Pslams is believed to be revealed to Prophet David (Dawood) (peace be on him). The Holy Quran refers to the book as Zabur, which is not extant in its original form.
The text below is taken from the NIV version of The Bible (http://bible.gospelcom.net )
Psalm 84 :: New International Version (NIV)


1 How lovely is your dwelling place,
O LORD Almighty!
2 My soul yearns, even faints,
for the courts of the LORD ;
my heart and my flesh cry out
for the living God.

3 Even the sparrow has found a home,
and the swallow a nest for herself,
where she may have her young-
a place near your altar,
O LORD Almighty, my King and my God.
4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you.
Selah

5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
who have set their hearts on pilgrimage.
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.
7 They go from strength to strength,
till each appears before God in Zion.

8 Hear my prayer, O LORD God Almighty;
listen to me, O God of Jacob.
Selah
9 Look upon our shield, O God;
look with favor on your anointed one.

10 Better is one day in your courts
than a thousand elsewhere;
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God
than dwell in the tents of the wicked.
11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield;
the LORD bestows favor and honor;
no good thing does he withhold
from those whose walk is blameless.

12 O LORD Almighty,
blessed is the man who trusts in you.

BACA IS MECCA: the holy Ka'ba built by the prophet Abraham (PBUH) and his son Ishmael (PBUH) is in Mecca.

The name Mecca (Makkah) is mentioned in the Holy Qur'an in 48:24. Another name for Mecca is Bakka, depending on the dialect of the tribe: this is also mentioned once, in Sura 3:96

"Verily, the first house (of worship) appointed for mankind was that in Bakka (Mecca), full of blessing, and guidance for all people." Amazingly enough, this word Bakka is mentioned by the prophet David (PBUH) in the Bible:

"Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well, the rain also filleth the pools." (Psalm 84:6)

The well here is the well known well of Zam-Zam, still present now, close to the Ka'bah; after thousands of years.

Muslims and their deceptions. Why did you quote the Bible half way to give it your own meaning?

Psalm 84:5-7New International Version (NIV)

5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.[a]
7 They go from strength to strength,
till each appears before God in Zion.

The Israelites make pilgrimage to Zion as you can see in verse 7 not Mecca. By the way, do people pass through Mecca to go to Zion? That should show you that Baca is not Mecca. The pilgrims only passed through the Valley of Baka, it was not their destination.

Besides, islamic record has it that it was Abraham who dug zamzam in Mecca but according to that Bible passage, it was the travellers to Zion who dug the well (spring). Then, how did you call it zamzam? You better discard with the lies they taught you in your islamic school.

Quran says Jesus didn't die but was taken to heaven stationed near Allah. It is a known fact that God is a Spirit and angels are spirit beings. Everybody that lives in heaven is a spirit. Besides, heaven is a spiritual place inhabited only by spirit beings. My question is: how is it possible for Jesus to live in heaven for over two thousand years now with human body?

Don't ask me what of Elijah. He didn't go to God's dwelling place. When the Bible mentiones heaven, it is not necessarily referring to God's dwelling place:


Did Elijah Go to Heaven?


Careful study shows that three “heavens” are actually discussed in the Bible. One is God’s dwelling place—the place of His throne—and the heaven where the resurrected Jesus is today. Speaking of Christ, who is our High Priest, the Bible says, “We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens” (Hebrews 8:1). Heaven is specifically called God’s dwelling place (Deuteronomy 26:15). The apostle Paul calls this heaven the “third heaven” (2 Corinthians 12:2)—showing, as noted, that there are two others. It’s described as the “third” because, being in the spirit realm, it is beyond the other two, which are in the physical realm.

Another heaven discussed in the Bible, second in proximity to us, is what we call outer space. It is the domain of the moon, planets, comets, asteroids, sun and stars. David spoke of this when he reflected on the awesomeness of God’s creative handiwork, which he described as “Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars, which You have ordained” (Psalms 8:3). Many scriptures mention “the stars of heaven” (Genesis 26:4; Deuteronomy 1:10; Deuteronomy 28:62; Isaiah 13:10).

Yet another heaven, closest to us in proximity, is the envelope of air that surrounds our planet, consisting of oxygen and other gases. This heaven—earth’s atmosphere—is mentioned in such passages as Genesis 7:11-12, which describes the great flood of Noah’s day: “The windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.” The Bible also speaks of “the birds of heaven,” those that fly overhead (Job 35:11; Jeremiah 16:4).

To determine which heaven is meant in a Bible passage, we must carefully consider the context. It was into the lower reaches of this first, closest heaven—the earth’s atmosphere—that Elijah was taken. Let’s notice the proof.

God had earlier told Elijah he was to anoint a man named Elisha as a prophet to succeed him (1 Kings 19:16). Later, as the two men walked together, Elijah said to Elisha, “What may I do for you, before I am taken away from you?” (2 Kings 2:9). This led to a discussion of God’s gifts to Elisha that would allow him to fill Elijah’s role.

“Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2 Kings 2:11). Elijah was now gone. The former followers and students of Elijah were now to look to Elisha as their new leader. “Now when the sons of the prophets who were from Jericho saw him, they said, ‘The spirit of Elijah rests on Elisha’ ” (2 Kings 2:15).

Many readers assume that Elijah at that point was made immortal and taken to the heaven where God resides. This was not the case. The sons of the prophets knew otherwise. They knew the whirlwind had simply removed Elijah to another location on earth. They exclaimed to Elisha: “Look now, there are fifty strong men with your servants. Please let them go and search for your master, lest perhaps the Spirit of the Lord has taken him up and cast him upon some mountain or into some valley” (2 Kings 2:16).
The disciples were concerned for Elijah’s safety, so they sent out a party of 50 men to search for him. The 50 searched for three days but did not find him (2 Kings 2:17).

Another passage proves conclusively that Elijah was not taken up to live in heaven. The Bible records that Elijah wrote a letter to Jehoram, the king of Judah, several years after he was removed in the whirlwind.

Notice the sequence of events recorded for us in the Bible. Elijah’s last recorded and dated act occurred during the reign of the Israelite king Ahaziah when Elijah told the king he would die for his sins (2 Kings 1:3-17). Ahaziah’s reign lasted only about a year, ca. 850 B.C.

Elijah’s removal and replacement by Elisha is then recorded in the next chapter, 2 Kings 2. The story continues with incidents from Elisha’s life, including an encounter with Jehoshaphat, king of Judah (2 Kings 3:11-14). Several years later Jehoram, son of Jehoshaphat, succeeded his father as king of Judah, ca. 845 B.C.(2 Kings 8:16).

Jehoram proved to be a wicked king, leading the nation of Judah in rebellion against God’s commandments. A few years into Jehoram’s reign, and several years after Elijah’s removal, Jehoram received a letter from Elijah warning the king of dire consequences because of his sins. This letter is recorded in 2 Chronicles 21:12-15.

This letter proves that the prophet was still alive and on earth some years after he was removed by the whirlwind and replaced by Elisha. God had chosen Elisha to succeed Elijah as His prophet, so He bodily removed Elijah to another place, where he continued to live for at least several more years—as his letter to Jehoram demonstrates.

The Bible tells us nothing more about Elijah’s life following his writing of the letter. But he eventually died, just like the other prophets and righteous men of the Old Testament, who all died in faith, not yet receiving the eternal life God had promised (Hebrews 11:39).

Again, a careful reading of the Scriptures shows that Elijah’s miraculous removal by a fiery chariot involved transporting him to another location on earth, not to eternal life in heaven.

So, Elijah was taken to another location up in the sky when his prophetic tenure expired and Elisha had to take his place.

Back to my question, can you muslims explain how it is possible for Jesus to live as a human with flesh and blood in heaven, the spirit world.

true2god:
This brings to where the prophet of islam even highlighted areas where lies are permissible, according to the hadith.

mohammed said:“If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath” (Bukhari: V7B67N427). He had further said: “Allah and his Messenger dissolve obligations” (Quran 9:3). Also in Quran 66:2, Muhammad had declared: “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.” MUSLIMS ALWAYS LIE ...they have shown that MANY times in their comments on nairaland.

It is islamically ok to lie to deceive infidels, never trust a muslim.

No doubt, allahh cannot be God.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

The Bible passage is talking about Satan and allahh has the same characteristics:

1. Allah murders.
2. Allah lies

There is nowhere you can find lies coming from the mouth of Bible God, never.

.

OlayinkaFawaz:
same way the bibles also were contained of violence!

The only war in the Bible that was not a reprisal attack was that of Cannan and that was because God wanted to exterminate the Cannanites because of their atrocities, which they persisted despite warnings.

So tell me where in the Bible that wars were fought on religious grounds, i .e to convert people by force.

Pastopreneur:
I would like to bring to the notice of the readers that my real name is Dr. Odia Ogbebor. You could check me up at facebook.com/hiddensimplicities or go through my blog at hiddensimplicities. so as to clarify your opinion about me. The name pastopreneur was the name i gave to myself abt few years back which i structly used for networking purposes, i.e,, as i teach entrepreneur, utilizing the scriptures to back it up. That was how that name was coined.




I AM A CHRISTAIN WHO HAVE ALSO DEVELOPED INTEREST IN ISLAM AS A RESULT OF MY DEFENCE OF ISLAM IN THE FACE OF MY CHRISTAIN BROTHERS. HERE IS A DREAM I HAD WHILE SLEEPING IN THE EARLY HOURS OF 5th of July 2016, CONCERNING A SPIRITUAL ENCOUNTER ABOUT ONE OF THE PRACTICE OF ISLAM



I do not know if i shld take it seriously or not, but it is a revelation that i am still questioning. Here it is.




In the dream, i was brought to a wide compound that has a mosque in it. It was beautiful, and the compound wasnt covered with pure sands but like stony substances. Amongst the stony substances, i discovered another substances dat looked dark and a bit reddish, but more darkened. So i asked myself,, what could this substance be?

So wen i went further into the compound, i saw two persons sitting in one of the corners of the compound. One of them appeared to me like an imam. And it was he who answered my question. But before i asked him my question, i heard him telling the other that no one preached to me abt islam, but i founded it by myself which they call the guidiance of Allah. And they were praising God.

When i saw them acting this way, i laughed within myself and said; this people do not know that i came here only to study and not to be converted to Islam. But it was no use telling them this. I also saw a friend of mine in my community who is a muslim coming close to the Imam and his collegue. And they were having a conversation about me.

But nevertheless, i went on to ask the Imam concerning what i ve seen on the ground in the compound. So told me that he would show it to me. And so directed someone to bring some for me.

When the young man brought them in a bowl, the Imam asked me to take some from it and eat. Initially, i took abt five pieces, but wen i realised it was much, i returned three and was left with two. So when i took one of it closer to my eyes as i fearfully placed one in my mouth( I was afraid due to the fact that i did not know why i was asked to eat it. Funny enough, i couldnt question them), i noticed that it was like palm fruits. I was not so comfortable eating it despite the fact that it wasnt looking scary. As i was eating it, i woke up from the sleep.

It was still in the early hours of the morning. And my curiosity of wat the palm fruit stands for in Islam drove me to search for it on google. Before now, i ve never learnt nor seen anything abt it in relation to islam.

So as i seeked for the knowledge, i realised that there is a particular palm fruit called DATE PALM FRUIT which prophet muhammad told his followers that it is more preferable to eat it immediately you break ur ramandan fasting.

And u culd imagine, this i dreamt of as the muslims are actually breaking their fasting in reality. Its baffling and questionable. Why should i ve dreamt of such wen i did not partake in the ramadam? Or was i practicing it unconsciously? I have never known before now if there was a link btw palm fruit and Islam( God bear me witness) . It was after now i discovered the importance of the palm tree to Islam. And i also learnt that, the date palm fruit, when eaten, has the power to protect u against poison and black magic. There some other thing i learnt also that got me more curious.

But still, my questions are yet to be fully answered.

@ the bold: Your dream is the product of your mindset. Satan knows your heart and gave you a dream in line with it.

Jesus said: "And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations and then the end will come (Mat. 24:14).

That shows God approved only the Gospel as His last message to the world. Islam is not from the true God but an invention of the Devil.