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Islam for Muslims / Re: Many Muslims Have Now Known Their God by truthman2012(m): 4:36pm On Jul 02, 2016
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Many Muslims Have Now Known Their God by truthman2012(m): 3:16pm On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


What's your point exactly?

My point is: Many muslims have now realized Allah is not the general God, hence they must call him Allah to differentiate him.
Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 3:13pm On Jul 02, 2016
Bridgetania:
Truthman leave them,, the bible says In the book of Titus 3:9 " But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the Law; For they are unprofitable and Vain.". U see brother, u can't convince them because the accuser of the brethren has blinded them spiritually!..arguing with them will only generate anger within ur heart, which is not christ-like!..all we can do is to pray for them!..because the Bible has made it clear that "whosoever believeth in him(Jesus christ) should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world; But that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: But he that believeth Not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten. Son of God."..JOHN 3: 15-18.

Thank you my sister.

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Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 1:59pm On Jul 02, 2016
truthman2012:


If those are not contraditions, what are they?

You read in quran 2:106 how allahh was changing his revelations to what he called better ones, thereby contradicting himself, but yet you claim there are no contractions.

[b]Just like you could not see the contradictions in spite of the fact that they are so clear, it is the same reason muslims have not turned back from Allah, not being able to detect the deceipt of islam. [/b]Do you wonder why a lunatic keeps doing what is abnormal? It is because he is under spiritual bondage.

@Rilwon

The bold has answered your question on why muslims could not turn back from islam but because none of your questions is ever answered you won't see it.
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Islamic Scholars Said About Hell by truthman2012(m): 1:53pm On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


QURAN

Surely (as for) those for whom the good has already gone forth from Us, they shall be kept far off from it; THEY WILL NOT HEAR ITS FAINTEST SOUND, and they shall abide in that which their souls long for.

Characteristic of islam, this quranic verse is a contradiction to the other various verses. Allah is never consistent, meaning he is deceiving you islamists.
Islam for Muslims / Many Muslims Have Now Known Their God by truthman2012(m): 1:48pm On Jul 02, 2016
These days I hear muslims saying "Olorun Allah". Olorun means God in Yoruba language. It shows there is another God whose name is not Allah, otherwise, it makes no sense saying God of God (i.e Olorun Allah). It is good to know that many muslims are now realizing they worship a different God from that of the Christians.

No matter what language a muslim speaks, when it comes to mentioning their god, they say Allah as if God does not have a name in their native language. The reason is that Allah is a personal name of a deity, who does not share his name with any other god.

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Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 1:25pm On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


Don't mind him, he can only deceive the gullible. People are leaving Christianity 'em masse and he couldn't do anything about it. The fool is blaming Islam for it.

Smh!

God is separating the goats from the sheep. The unholy and violent ones will find comfort in islam.

By the way, perhaps you don't know the number of muslims accepting Jesus on daily basis surpasses the number of nominal Christians crossing to islam. We don't make noise about it and in fact it is dangerous to because of your law of apostasy.

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Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 1:14pm On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


Why don't you answer my question, old man undecided


Your questions are never answered, even when you see the answers.
Religion / Re: Endtime! This Man Is Doing What Only Jesus Could Do, Magic Or Real Demons! by truthman2012(m): 1:10pm On Jul 02, 2016
BeastAmbition:



How?

By the time you die and realize that he came for you so that you will not perish, you will discover you did yourself a great wrong.

There are testimonies of those, atheists, muslims, Christians who have seen him before, aside from what the Bible says.
Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 1:00pm On Jul 02, 2016
HazzanTazzan:
Smh for some idiots...
Trying to do evangelism on a thread that's meant to be an eye opener

It is indeed an eye opener. Those Quranic verses and hadith to which you couldn't comment have opened people's eyes.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 12:53pm On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


Nawa o sad

If this are truly contradictions and inconsistencies, why haven't we had the mass eco did of Muslims turning unbeliever as a result of this as in the case of Christians turning atheist after seeing that the Bible is in fact fallible?

I suppose those contradictions and inconsistencies in the Bible are so clear and irrefutable that you are your fellow brethren could only hide whenever those atheists question you?


If those are not contraditions, what are they?

You read in quran 2:106 how allahh was changing his revelations to what he called better ones, thereby contradicting himself, but yet you claim there are no contradictions.

Just like you could not see the contradictions in spite of the fact that they are so clear, it is the same reason muslims have not turned back from Allah, not being able to detect the deceipt of islam. Do you wonder why a lunatic keeps doing what is abnormal? It is because he is under spiritual bondage.

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Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 12:41pm On Jul 02, 2016
HazzanTazzan:


Chai... Double twale for this ur shallow brain...
You could debunk the exodus verse quoted in my pic based on the fact that it was quoted out of context but here you are giving me some stupid quotes about words of the Quran...

Who translated those verses? Did you care to read the full context of those verses?

Again... I created this thread so Christians can stop lifting "out of context" quotes from the Quran and using it to condemn islam...

Obviously you @truthman2012 do not have the intelligence to debate this topic... I guess I'd wait for a more knowledgeable fella

I commit you into the hand of Jesus, who alone is capable of delivering you from islamic captivity.

Ordinarily, my posts up there should be clear enough for every reasonable person.

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Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 12:36pm On Jul 02, 2016
HazzanTazzan

If you know peace is a virtue and you are a man of peace, you should embrace the the Prince of peace, whose life was free of violence, Jesus Christ.

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Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 12:23pm On Jul 02, 2016
truthman2012:
Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.

Sahih Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Now, how do you reconcile the above incitements to violence with the quote of peace in the OP? ISLAM is such a religion that springs forth hot and cold at the same time, yet muslims shout "no contradictions in quran". What a pity!

@HazzanTazzan

Do you still have the moral justification to condemn the Islamic terrorists who are following the clearly stated islamic injunctions?

I am not judging the terrorists by their actions but by the sources of their actions, the quran and hadith

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Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 12:19pm On Jul 02, 2016
Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.
With this, do you still call islam a religion of peace?

Sahih Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'
With this, what do you say is wrong with terrorism?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Now, how do you reconcile the above incitements to violence with the quote of peace in the OP? ISLAM is such a religion that springs forth hot and cold at the same time, yet muslims shout "no contradictions in quran". What a pity!
Religion / Re: Is This Really True About The Bible? by truthman2012(m): 12:05pm On Jul 02, 2016
Exodus 22:20 was not referring to all people generally. It was God's people whom Moses was leading out of Egypt to the promised land, Cannan that were forbidden to make sacrifice to other gods.. At that time, there were people of other nations, including Egypt who were pagans and Israelites never went there to kill them.

The same cannot be said about the muslims, who would leave their own place and go to other nations to force islam on the people. Muhammad fought many religious wars outside of Mecca and Medina.

I used to wonder when muslims say islam is a religion of peace, which is the exact opposite: Muhammad said he was given an order by Allah to fight ALL PEOPLE till they confess that none has the right to be worshiped besides Allah. How do you call fighting all people to force a religious belief on them peace? Even you, you are a product of violence perpetrated by some muslims in the history of the world and yet you say islam is a religion of peace. What an irony!

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Religion / Re: Endtime! This Man Is Doing What Only Jesus Could Do, Magic Or Real Demons! by truthman2012(m): 11:48am On Jul 02, 2016
BeastAmbition:
jesus never existed... it's all a myth.


what the guy did in the op article is just a trick

You are not doing anybody, you're doing yourself.
Religion / Re: Endtime! This Man Is Doing What Only Jesus Could Do, Magic Or Real Demons! by truthman2012(m): 11:46am On Jul 02, 2016
jcross19:
ohyah do your own trick. If you think there is no supernatural forces , you are finished already.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 11:34am On Jul 02, 2016
onetrack:


So then praying for forgiveness is useless.

Did you understand my post?

[
b]truthman2012[/b]
Jesus died for sins committed in the time of ignorance (Acts 17:30).

Any unrepented sins committed after the knowledge of Christ attract severe punishment (Heb. 10:26-27)

You pray for forgiveness after repentance. You don't repent alone, you also ask for forgiveness.
Religion / Re: Islam And Christianity: Who Is More Tolerant? by truthman2012(m): 11:14am On Jul 02, 2016
shadeyinka:
Christians harass you everywhere with preachings of "You must be BornAgain" , Muslims deny you the right of building a church when they are majority and you stand the risk of paying the ultimate prize for "Blasphemy".

Are these commandments from God in the two religions or our clerics are the ones reinterpreting religion?

Pls non biased responses.

Who told you quran is from God?

Jesus said: And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to ALL NATIONS (Arabs inclusive) and then the END will come (Mat. 24:14).

God expects only the Gospel of Jesus to be preached TILL THE END OF THE WORLD, therefore, islam is not from God.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 11:08am On Jul 02, 2016
onetrack:


Christians can and do enjoy the sins of the world. As long as you believe Jesus died for your sins, what prevents you from doing whatever?

Jesus died for sins committed in the time of ignorance (Acts 17:30).

Any unrepented sins committed after the knowledge of Christ attract severe punishment (Heb. 10:26-27).
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Islamic Scholars Said About Hell by truthman2012(m): 10:57am On Jul 02, 2016
I pity the muslims who have died as allahh said they are going to hell straight. For the ones that are alive, you should be afraid of dying if you have ever experienced fire burn before. Unless Allah is lying in the quran, you guys are to be pitied.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 10:46am On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:
And then, op, I think you are not really doing enough, can't you organize a group where you would be revealing the beauty of Christianity to us, I think that would at least reduce the level at which people are turning atheist on this board. My candid advice sha, Why do you think?

If Church goers turn to atheists, it is because they are bread and butter Christians who want to enjoy the sins in the world. Muslims do not have reason to turn to atheists before they can enjoy this sinful world, their allahh permits all kinds of sin.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 10:39am On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


This is just another nonsense oozing out from your end undecided they have skill once accepted Jesus as their personal lord and savior and in the long run, when they had the courage to read the Bible on their own and not a pastor reading it for them, they found out all the inconsistency and contradictions in it.

I will advice you to do the same.



Have you



They are not just tired of going to church, they stopped going when Christians like you couldn't answer the questions they were asking about the inconsistencies and contradictions in the bible.

Quran is the worse book in terms of contradictions and inconsistencies as allahh was substituting his revelations with what he called better ones as if there was somebody giving him new ideas (Qur'an 2:106).

See Qur'anic contradictions here:

www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

You islamic guys are yet to save allahh from the many lies he told:

www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 10:28am On Jul 02, 2016
Rilwon:


And fools like you would later come out to tell us how stoning to death is the punishment for adultery sad I doff' my hat for your absurd way of reasoning.



Many Christians are sure going to hell, I guarantee it. You included undecided


Islam is such a hypocritical religion fraught with irreconcilable confusions that came from the pit of hell. Why should you stone adulterers or adulteresses when it is your allahh that caused it for them?

Are you saying Muhammad was wrong when he said Allah had fixed adultery for you islamists? Is that my own statement or Muhammad's? Something must be wrong with your reasoning faculty. For you to remain a muslim after reading all you have been reading, allahh has actually tampered with your reasoning.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Atheists Will Not Have Problem Becoming Muslims by truthman2012(m): 7:19am On Jul 02, 2016
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Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 7:53pm On Jul 01, 2016
annunaki2:
@OP you are not entirely correct, firstly there are a lot more christians than muslims so it's only natural that you have more ex christian atheists than ex muslim atheist but in reality there might actually be more ex muslim atheist. A recent online survey done in saudi arabia revealed that they have a closet atheist population of 5% and closet christian population of almost 10%. In all reality because of evil islamic apotasy laws, ex muslim atheist rarely come out and declare their non faith as such it seems that there are more ex christian atheist.

Well, as ex-muslim atheists rarely come out for fear of apostasy, that could account for the reason it is believed there are more atheists in Christianity than islam. But the reasons why there are atheists in Christianity still stand.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 5:53pm On Jul 01, 2016
Dreal11247:
Another reason being that some so-called men of God are not preaching the right messages. How can you be prophesying to an armed robber or a prostitute without preaching repentance first.

You are right.

I know many pastors who are pastors because of what they want to eat. Can you imagine a pastor asking a large congregation to make donation? How does he know what work they are doing?

But that doesn't mean there are no true men of God. In fact, there can be no fake if there is no original.

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Religion / Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 5:13pm On Jul 01, 2016
Muslims accuse Christianity of breeding atheists. They fail to recognise the fact that it is not everyone bearing Christian name that is truly a Christian. In fact, you are not a Christian by birth even when it is long you have been attending a Church. You are not a Christian until you one day actually confess Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, come rain come shine.

Those who accept Jesus, not based on what they want to get from God but what to give to Him are the true Christians. Many of those invited to Jesus on condition on God's blessing them cannot go far with God. I have heard preachers tell a very large congregation fantastic benefits of accepting Jesus other than salvation. Even though God blesses His children but that is not why we should serve Him. Making God's blessings a means of serving Him is a satanic bait. The people who accept Christ in this way, most of them turn atheists when things are not as good as expected.

Another reason why many Church goers turn atheists is their inability to get their heart desire, especially wealth or success in some areas. They feel God has disappointed them, forgetting or not knowing that God's blessings are not without conditions. The Bible says: It shall come to pass if thou shall hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord thy God to observe and to do ALL his commandments..... (Deut. 28:1). Other verses of the same chapter stipulates what God promised the holy and obedient children. The problem with the people is that they cannot live a life of total obedience to God to attract his promised blessings. So they become disappointed when their prayers for blessing are not answered.

There are things people want from God desperately, irrespective of whether or not are the will of God for their lives. There are things you want from God, which He will do but not the time you want it because He knows what is good for you at the right time. The people who are not deep with God would have forsaken Him before it is time for Him to act. And so they become atheists.

Another reason normal Christians become atheists is to free themselves from the prison of their conscience. There is a high standard of holiness required from the Christians. When they cannot meet the standard, they come to the conclusion that there is no God to liberate them to be committing sins.

Coming to islam, there are no specific promises of Allah based on holy and moral living. Therefore, there is no room for disappointment. You get disappointed only when you have a failed promise. You remain a muslim as long as you pray five times daily irrespective of your lifestyle. It is only during Ramadan fast they try to caution themselves in doing or not doing certain things as if Allah is not seeing them when not fasting.

It is a sin for a Christian to look at a woman with lust, and this is what many people are guilty of. To freely do this, all you need is renounce Christianity and become an atheist, otherwise you will be in prison of your conscience. But with muslims, it is no sin looking on another man's wife as their Allah ordained such:

Abu Aahuraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying:Verily Allah has fixed the
very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit
. The adultery
of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the tongue is the licentious speech, the heart desire
and yearns, which the parts may or may not put into effect (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6421 & 6422)

Ye have heard that it was said by them of the old time, Thou shall not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart (Matthew 5:27-28).

Since islam permits everything that pleases the flesh: coming adultery, fighting, retaliation, lying when it matters etc., why would any muslim turn to an atheist to enjoy the sins the atheists enjoy. The difference between atheism and islam is the five-time daily prayers because they (muslims) believe in a god.

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Religion / Re: The Evidence For The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by truthman2012(m): 3:47pm On Jul 01, 2016
This is a thread that shows the brotherhood of atheists, muslims and pagans because they are under the same Master.

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Religion / Re: The Evidence For The Resurrection Of Jesus Christ by truthman2012(m): 3:05pm On Jun 30, 2016
@ Seun

It's not sufficient to convince an objective modern person that a 3 day old corpse whose brain and heart would have decayed considerably actually came back to life, held meetings in person with various people, and then ascended into outer space.

Lazarus was dead for 4 days before he became back to life (John 11)

Dried bones of people who had died for only-God - knows years came back to life(Ezekiel 37)

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Religion / Re: Muslims Need To Start Asking Some Hard Questions About Islam And Mohammed. by truthman2012(m): 6:41pm On Jun 28, 2016
barackodam:



Is it everything your religion teaches you adhere to
Is it everything you practice your religion teaches?

Oh well, except if you're an atheist.

I'm a Muslim, but I know it's not everything my religion teaches I practice and not everything I do my religion accepts. And daily, I'm trying to be a better Muslim.

If all of us Muslims adhere strictly to the teachings of Islam in general, then believe me, this world would be best, but the truth is, we're in a world where that's impossible.

Christians, Buddhist, Pagans, Hindus, all of them have bad eggs people who paint the religion bad. Just in our case, the world focuses on the bad side of Islam and not the good.


nuff said

I wonder when you islamists say islam is a religion of peace. I also wonder when you say it is only the bad eggs that foment violence. How would prove the violent among you are not following the injunctions of your Allah with the following Quranic verses :

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, [/b]and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, [b]be he slain or be he victorious,
on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."

Those violence inciting verses are the words of Allah to the Muslims against unbelievers. Now, how do you call those who act on the verses bad eggs?

For your information, many, if not all the Arabic countries do not allow anybody to carry Bible in their country, yet Muslims say they are tolerant and peaceful. How?

We just thank God that not all of you guys believe in those verses, otherwise we wouldn't have been able to live together.

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