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The anti christ will come from islam --maybe

Samunique:
Don't bother yourself my good brother, u already know the answer and the answer is what's on your mind according to Ezekiel 8:15-16, Duet 4:19.

seemples:
BC??

true2god:
The volume of lies and cover-ups in islam is legendary. Muslims make satan looks like a saint when it comes to telling lies to defend islam and to cover-up for mohammed's short-comings and atrocities. And to be honest, most religions have their fair share of inconsistencies but the level at which muslims lie for islam and mohammed is highly irrational and unacceptable.

Last week tuesday I watched the US senate committee on terrorism where senator Ted Cruz (the former US presidential candidate) questioned the president of muslim advocate, Mrs Khera, on why her organization was hampering on the work of the US department of homeland security (with the support of the islamic demon barrack obama who is cuurently ruling the US) by asking the FBI to scrub all national security materials where 'islam', 'ummah', 'jihad' and 'hijra' are mentioned. Out of the 6 questions the committee asked her, she didnt answer a single question straight. She spent more that seven minutes dodging all the questions posed to her.

Out of frustration, the committee moderator asked Ted Cruz to stop questioning her since she is never ready to answer a single question posed to her. Thats is the president of american muslim advocate trying her best to deceive the infidels.

On that very day, a whistle blower who was exposing the activity of the muslims brotherhood in the US (obama sacked him for doing this job), Phil Haney, was grilled and right away he responded to all questioned and further opened the eyes of the americans of the muslims' plan to destroy the US from within (with facts and evidence). Please truthman watch this senate session on youtube and you will fear muslims and islam.

As per the pagan origin of islam vis-a-vis the allahh, it is no doubt that mohammed worshipped the same allahh his ancestors worshipped. This is because the same circumbulation of kabba (7 times in anti-clockwise direction) and the same kissing of the black stone kabba was done by mohammed's father and grandfather and the practice is still being done today.

Why are muslims trying to tell us that mohammed's allahh was diffrent from his grandfather's allahh? This is a cheap lie for the fools and useful idiots which I refused to be.

Rashe:
why do we have 28 days in February & sometimes 29, 30days in some months & 31 in some? why is it not just 30days in all d month of d year?y do ladies av different dates 4 their monthly menstruatuon? why not jus a particular date of d month since it is a monthly occurrence? besides, av u all reason how dey count days in the early age b4 d invention of clock & calendar? dey actually used moon in case u don't know...these show Islam is nt a man made religion but DAT of God & can't be modified jus because of new discoveries... peace!!!

Samunique:
Thanks OP for this wonderful post!

Islam is not the problem of the church but the church herself !!!

Rashe:
why do we have 28 days in February & sometimes 29, 30days in some months & 31 in some? why is it not just 30days in all d month of d year?y do ladies av different dates 4 their monthly menstruatuon? why not jus a particular date of d month since it is a monthly occurrence? besides, av u all reason how dey count days in the early age b4 d invention of clock & calendar? dey actually used moon in case u don't know...these show Islam is nt a man made religion but DAT of God & can't be modified jus because of new discoveries... peace!!!

cckris:
Because of Boko Haram, the Christian world now knows that there're many Christians in Borno & Yobe States, such as Chibok Local Govt; Gwoza, and many, many towns, that Boko Haram IS SPONSORED TO ANNIHILATE.

Still they ALL ruggedly remain Christian. This is a GREAT EVIDENCE that the powers of darkness CAN NEVER PREVAIL over Light.

DabELLs:
This simply highlights the Christian missionary’s/critic’s ignorance as the word Allah was initially used in a monotheistic sense by Ishmael (son of Abraham) and those of his followers. However, with time, these Arabs later slipped into paganism which ultimately led to the Arabs of Mecca leaving the pure belief of Allah being the ONLY God by making Allah a high god of their pantheon of gods.

The Prophet Muhammad (p) brought the Arabs back onto the worship of Allah alone with the introduction of Islam – the same beliefs Ishmael (p) introduced to Arabia.

A brief history of Meccan-Arab religious practice

We know that the word “Allah” was in use before the time of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). If we read Ar-Raheeq ul-Makhtum we realise that the early Arabs did believe in Allah as the Only God. This is dated all the way back to the time of Prophet Ishmael (p) who resided in Makkah (Mecca) and learned Arabic as well as settling there [1]. He preached the message of pure monotheism; “Most of the Arabs had complied with the call of Ishmael and professed the religion of his father Abraham. They worshipped Allah, professed His Oneness and followed His religion...” [2].

This shows that Allah was known as the Only God, just like the Muslims believe Him to be. Indeed Abraham and Ishmael (pbut) are considered to be Muslims, i.e. those who had submitted to the Will of the Only God, Allah.

How paganism was introduced after Ishmael and Abraham (pbut)

The issue of paganism came into the equation as the Arabs forgot this pure monotheism which was taught by Ishmael and his followers. The idolatry was originated from the actions of a man named Amr bin Luhai, he was known as a devoted and righteous man, well respected by his peers. However, after a trip away from Mecca he saw idol-worship in Syria.

Upon his return to the Meccans he introduced idol worship to the Meccans by bringing an idol named Hubal back from Syria and this resulted in the spread of a great many idols across Mecca.

They now (wrongly) believed Allah to be the high god of many gods

Despite the Meccan pagans’ acceptance of idols they still proclaimed belief in Allah in the sense that they saw Allah as the High God but used the idols as ‘lesser deities’ whom they believed “could intercede before Allah for the fulfilment of their wishes” [4].

Quite simply they had a pantheon of ‘gods’ but believed that Allah was the High God of their pantheon. [6]

The theory of Allah being considered as a High God is backed by Ar-Raheequl-Maktoum, Karen Armstrong [6] and W. M. Watt [7].

Effectively over the years they changed their belief in Allah, from the belief that Allah was the Only God (the Abrahamic teachings) to the belief that Allah was the High God of their many deities (pagan/polytheistic teachings).

There were 360 different idols, belonging to the pagans of Mecca, around the Ka’bah when Prophet Muhammed took charge of Mecca. These idols were subsequently broken, removed and burned under the authority of Prophet Muhammed [3].

Prophet Muhammad’s father - Abdullah

Another source that attests to the fact that the pre-Islamic Arabs used the name Allah and held a ‘belief’ in Him is the genealogy of Prophet Muhammed, his father’s name was actually Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) [5]. Interestingly enough, some of these pagan Arabs believed that Allah was the same God that the Jews and Christians worshipped [6]

Prophet Muhammad reintroduces Abrahamic monotheism

In 610 CE, the Prophet Muhammad began to call the pagan Arabs back to the pure monotheism which was taught by Abraham and Ishmael centuries earlier. By 632 CE the Meccan Arabs had given up their idols and returned back to pure monotheism – believing in Allah as the only god.

edey2real:
Your question doesn't need any answer because you can't understand it based on your faith and belief. So giving you an answer will amount to a waste of time and resources.

Peace!

true2god:
Ramadan does not stop muslims from lying or using kitmanship techniques. As a muslims from an english speaking background, can i also say: 'there is no god but Jehovah and mohammed is his prophet'? You and I know that this can never be acceptable to muslims. That is to tell you that the word 'allahh' is a proper noun different from 'Jehovah'. Both the words Jehovah and allahh have a deep religious value to both the christians and the muslims.

You also magnified allahh above all other names of God which re-enforced my argument that allahh is not equal to 'olorun' or 'chineke' as some muslims will claim. It also prooved that allahh which mohammed's grandfather worshipped and the allahh which mohammed preached is one and the same. If mohammed's grandfather's allahh is a pagan god, why will mohammed's allahh be the true god? From what source did mohammed's grandfather got his knowldege of allahh and from what source does mohammed get his knowlegde of allahh?

Please I need a honest and logical answer that is taqiyya-free.

DabELLs:


Is it that you don't understand simple English or your brain thinks slowly Where did you see that Muhammed is ONLY Allah's messenger in that statement

Obadiah77:


I said I will come back to it, we cannot possibly waste a whole 2days on a question when I have lots of questions in my mind.

Maybe I wouldn't have become what I became today had it been you are this swift at responding to atheist criticism of the Bible.

Please sit down and watch.

Obadiah77:


No, this is what I don't like. The thread is solely for me, kabiru, and his Muslim counterpart. Don't come and disturb us with your bigotry, when actually bullshit like this are very well in your Bible.

You can do well going to other thread opened by atheist and refute their argument or simply sit down here and look while I throw my question

Kabir, like I said earlier, please don't pay attention to people like this

nnofaith:
As an ex-Muslim atheist this were some of the issues i find troubling, there is also Ubaiydullah ibn Jash who was the first cousin of the prophet, how could they have been named after a pagan allah? also, why should the Kaaba maintan a prominent place in islam? the most reasonable thing ought to be for the Kaaba to be destroyed since it was a pagan monument. the prophet even went round the kaaba in worship (WHILE THE IDOLS WERE STILL IN THE KAABA) after the muslims defeated the makaans in batttle.

lexiconkabir:


No compulsion in religion means, you wont be forced to accept islam, but once you are in Islam, you gotta be real, the law of apostacy was put in place, when the Jews of mecca were making mockery of thr religion, by becoming Muslims today and becoming apostates the next.



Obviously, this verse refers to the disbelievers in islam, that tried to fight against Muhammad in battle even after signing peace treaty, look at the next verse that follows so you can see what happens to those that did not fight against him.


"Exempted are those with whom you made [size=18pt]a treaty among the polytheists[/size] and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]."

So its obvious that the people in verse 3 were rebellious, they were not promised punishment just because they disbelieved.

If you not cleared let me know.



As you can see, there is no contradiction there......

truthman2012:
Muhammad's grandfather, Mutaleb was an idolater. He named his son Abdullai, which means "servant of Allah". Abdullai (servant of allah) gave birth to Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah. My question therefore is: Which Allah was Mutaleb worshipping as an idolater, as a result of which he named his son "servant of Allah" What is the difference between the Allah of Mutaleb as an idolater and the Allah of Muhammad as a Muslim?

Oladim001:
The old man is back. And as usual he's talking without facts. Rilwon has brought his can't you jst bring yours from the Qur'an that says muslims will enter hell. And when we talk of contradictions, don't even go there at all, cos the contradictions in the bible are so numerous that the editor of a bible had to write that he revised the edition cos the contradictions were too much. Now i challenge you to show me where i can find another version of the Qur'an in which just a single word was changed. Not like your bible that says Jesus is the only son of God and in other parts it says some other prophets are sons of God. And there are different versions with different wordings. The bible that wasn't even written by Jesus himself but by some self acclaimed saints who claim to be inspired. Christainity where not every christain understand the concept of trinity. SMH

Oladim001:
Oh yea, i wasn't expecting someone as dumb as you to pick any point from my post. Someone that can be so dumb to believe that 1+1+1=1. Smh

Oladim001:
Wow you know you just shot yourself in the leg. Yet you believe the bible is the word of God. Christains one of the most confused set of people in the world.

Oladim001:
The old man is back. And as usual he's talking without facts. Rilwon has brought his can't you jst bring yours from the Qur'an that says muslims will enter hell. And when we talk of contradictions, don't even go there at all, cos the contradictions in the bible are so numerous that the editor of a bible had to write that he revised the edition cos the contradictions were too much. Now i challenge you to show me where i can find another version of the Qur'an in which just a single word was changed. Not like your bible that says Jesus is the only son of God and in other parts it says some other prophets are sons of God. And there are different versions with different wordings. The bible that wasn't even written by Jesus himself but by some self acclaimed saints who claim to be inspired. Christainity where not every christain understand the concept of trinity. SMH

Oladim001:
Ohh May 21 was the last time someone commented on this thread. Looks like you just woke up from your slumber.

Farmerforlife:




I will comment only once on this thread, since it seems from your history that you are on a crusade, and not really interested in getting the answer to your question.

Every religion has a concept of a Supreme Deity, which later becomes corrupted by the addition of lesser gods. Allah was always recognised by the pre-Islamic pagans as the supreme God and Creator, due to the influence of prophet Ibrahim (ﷺ) (Abraham in the Bible) and his Arab descendants. The Quran tells the prophet Muhammad (ﷺ)...

<<Say to them (ie ask the pagans) "Tell me if you know, whose is the earth and all who dwell in it?"
They will say, "Allah's".
Ask them, "Then why do you not understand this"?

Say to them (ie ask the pagans), "To whom do the seven heavens and the Glorious Throne belong?"
They will say, "To Allah".
Say, "Then why do you not fear Him".

Say to them (ie ask the pagans) "Tell me, if you know, whose is the Sovereignty over everything? And who is that Being who gives protection while none can give protection against Him?"
They will surely reply, "This power belongs to Allah." Say, "How then are you so bewitched?">>
Quran 23;84-92

This shows that they did not dispute the sovereignity of Allah over all things, nor the fact that He is the Creator. Their point of dispute was that they believed that there were other 'minor gods' that could benefit or harm them, and that were therefore, also deserving of attention. This is what Islam rejects. Allah alone is God and Creator, and none deserve worship but him, based on the principles sent through Abraham, Noah, Isaac, Ismael, Moses and all the other prophets sent at different times. The other idols that were later added to the worship of Allah as the unique God were to be rightly relegated to the rubbish heap.

AbdulMuttalib named his son Abdullah to show that he was sanctified to Allah, because he did worship Allah, only not Alone as He should be worshipped. He also had another son called Abduluzza, and the pagans also called their children Abd manaf and Abul shams, depending on which God they were intent on worshipping at the time.

Like the concept of monotheism, the laws, morals and ways of worship had also been lost. The prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) reinstated these too.



For the same reason that the pagans were rejected as monotheists. They associated partners in worship with Allah, even though they acknowledged His Supremacy. (in the time of the prophet Muhammad (ﷺ), Christians had no other name for God other than Allah). This association was via their belief that Jesus was also a god (in addition to the holy spirit), and this is why they are referred to as infidels.

<<Certainly they disbelieve who say: Allah is the third of the three. And there is no God but One God. And if they desist not from what they say a painful chastisement will surely befall such of them as disbelieve.>>
Quran 5;73