Farmerforlife:


Ok, so you agree that Makkah is not east of Jerusalem now, thank God for His tender Mercies. Now are you trying to insinuate that everyone in Makkah faces east when praying? Look at a picture of people praying in Makkah. Those on the East side face West, those on the North side face south, those on the West side face east, and those on the south side face north. Is it only those on the west side who face east that are idolators? What of those on the south side especially who face north, and therefore Jerusalem by projection? Incidentally, those who face east are actually backing Sudan, not Jerusalem, and it is those who face south that are actually backing Jerusalem. How do you justify that?

Awaiting your knowledgeable response eagerly.

By the way excuse the private inquiry, but are you a full time evangelical pastor? I cant imagine any other line of work that you could possibly do apart from that, taking your method of reasoning into consideration.

truthman2012


You still failed to tell why islam is about Ishmael and Hagai alone. Where were Isaac, Jacob and Sarah? Mind you, quran confirms that Isaac and Jacob had the covenant of prophethood (Quran 29:27), then, why were they excluded from islamic rituals in Mecca if truly Abraham established it?

Again, islamists claim Adam first laid down the foundation of Kaaba without any proof that Adam was created in Mecca or ever lived there. Do you have any proof?

Another point is: muslims say Adam started the building of Kaaba but when it came to the turn of Abraham, allaah threw a stone (the Back Stone) to him as the location where Kaaba should be built. Why would allaah throw any stone to locate the Kaaba site when the foundation was already there?

What you explained about islamic rituals in Mecca that Abraham and Ishmael were the people who did them first before idolaters hijacked them is not believable. You can not prove that idolaters could use the same mode of worshiping God to worship their idols. It is like saying idolaters hijacked the Church and started shouting Jesus the way Christian do. It is not possible. It was Muhammad who introduced the ways his fathers worshipped their idols and turned it to islam. Yahweh the true God expressly forbade people to worship Him like idols. If allaah accepts him being worshiped like idols, it implies that Yahweh and allaah are not the same

.

My good friend, I won't rest until you provide answers to the above. Thank you.

Thank God for the man's life. If it were the muslims on nairaland they will keep arguing, even with their own dream.

We have been telling them that islam leads to hell, they are still very obstinate. Look below at what their islamic scholars said:

These are the interpretations of islamic scholars about muslims' fate at afterlife:

Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71 (“Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification:
“Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al-islam.com.

Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.”
Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it.” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic)

Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning).” Nafi then laughed.

Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia.


In summary, every muslims will go into hell as soon as he/she dies. What a pity. Make sure you don't die a Muslim. Give your life to Jesus.

[i]Islam as a religion of peace[/i]

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to c awl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses."
Sahih Bukhari 1:11:626

How peaceful?

ifenes:


Interesting. @Truthman2012,what say you on this one?

You have been answered already. You don't judge Christianity by the deed of men but the standard of Jesus.

The Bible says " Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith (Heb. 12:2).

true2god:
@ op, never knew thruthman2012 is your nightmare. Christians are to be judged by what Jesus did and instructed and not what any useless priest say or do. Muslims are to be judged by what Mohammad did and instructed and not what a sheik or imam did.

To we ordinary men, Mohammed is still a criminal and a pedofile, accept that fact. The information are in your Quran and your ha-death.

Great !!!

Muslims would run far away from this type of thread because they have nothing to say but would rush out like bees when they feel they have a point.

If you don't break your silence and speak out, I will not hesitate to reveal some of the hadith that will make you call for the delete of this thread, I don't care. What is interesting to me is that some people, even if it is only one person, would have read it.

Farmerforlife:


Please bros, calm yourself down, you dont have to be so excitable. The Igbos are in the east from whose perspective? Certainly not the Camerounians or the South Africans or the Chadians, or even those staying in Borno, Yobe, Benue or Cross River or Rivers States. Cardinal direction is all a matter of perspectives. The verse you quoted speaks from the perspective of a man standing in Jerusalem and facing East.

Your expert drawn map is what I am citing. It doesnt show Makkah to be East of Jerusalem. Let me help you out, take a ruler, and draw a line horizontally across the map passing through Jerusalem, the rightwards part of the line denotes the cities east of Jerusalem. Now take the ruler and draw a vertical line passing through Jerusalem, the areas at the lower part of the line denote cities south of Jerusalem. Now look at where Makkah lies, you will see (if your sight is free from bias of course) that Makkah is much closer to the lower line, making it South south east of Jerusalem. Or better still, superimpose the compass points you kindly provided on the map, and follow the eastward line, where a man standing in Jerusalem would be facing. There is no way that anybody standing in Jerusalem and facing east, could be facing Makkah. It is difficult to believe that God can make such a heinous mistake in Geography if He meant Makkah.org And you have still not told me the fate of the Muslim worshippers in Europe, the US and Asia. Are they ok, since they face south, west or north?

I was not referring to Judaic scriptures concerning Islam. I was referring to Judaic scripture and rulings concerning Jesus and Christianity. Since the prophet Isa (ﷺ) is a respected messenger of God with us, I am reluctant to post these views here. You may google search for it yourself, and discover just what the original owners of Judaic scripture have to say about you and your god.

I have already answered you concerning the worship practices and their origins in Abraham's religion in another thread. If you did not understand it there, you will not understand it here.



It is really worrisome that so many Christians cannot ascertain simple direction on a geographical map. I would rather believe that you understand that Makkah is located south of Jerusalem, but you choose to support your fellow brother wrongly, than to believe that you do not know how to read the map that your brother provided.

Forget about muslims in Europe, US and Asia, it may not be East to them but as a the time of the Biblical statement, those who were facing the East turned their back to God's Temple and they were the idolaters in Mecca, the worship of which muslims also adopt for worshiping allaah.

You still failed to tell why islam is about Ishmael and Hagai alone. Where were Isaac, Jacob and Sarah? Mind you, quran confirms that Isaac and Jacob had the covenant of prophethood (Quran 29:27), then, why were they excluded from islamic rituals in Mecca if truly Abraham established it?

Again, islamists claim Adam first laid down the foundation of Kaaba without any proof that Adam was created in Mecca or ever lived there. Do you have any proof?

Another point is: muslims say Adam started the building of Kaaba but when it came to the turn of Abraham, allaah threw a stone (the Back Stone) to him as the location where Kaaba should be built. Why would allaah throw any stone to locate the Kaaba site when the foundation was already there?

What you explained about islamic rituals in Mecca that Abraham and Ishmael were the people who did them first before idolaters hijacked them is not believable. You can not prove that idolaters could use the same mode of worshiping God to worship their idols. It is like saying idolaters hijacked the Church and started shouting Jesus the way Christian do. It is not possible. It was Muhammad who introduced the ways his fathers worshipped their idols and turned it to islam. Yahweh the true God expressly forbade people to worship Him like idols. If allaah accepts him being worshiped like idols, it implies that Yahweh and allaah are not the same.

AmuDimpka:



You have taken him to cleaners


He won't answer

Meaning he is knowingly deceiving himself.

adejaresalami1:
Moderators....not only should you delete this thread....please this befuddled op should as well serve a ban.

When somebody creates a thread using islamic source(s), if it portrays islam in bad light, muslims would quickly report to mod and get it deleted. It was your fellow muslims who wrote or compiled those hadiths and could not be talking hill of their own prophet or islam to destroy it, they wrote exactly as it happened.

Besides, I have proven it once that no hadith is weak or fabricated as all of them are found in islamic libraries. Not only that, hadiths have sequence: Book, Volume and Number. If any hadiths fall within the sequential order of a hadith writer it shows they were from him. You either believe the writer wholly or reject him wholly. It doesn't make sense believing some of his writings when it favours islam and rejecting some when it doesn't.

Deleting threads to protect the image of islam is tantamount to self-deception. You know something and hide them from people seeing it.

May God in His mercies deliver you guys.

Farmerforlife:


Look at your own map and see how much of that is south and how much is east. Superimpose the direction where the sun rises and see how wrong your theory is. It takes a lot of imagination to see Makkah as being in the direction where the sun rises in relation to Jerusalem. The Ibos are not a single city, and they are not going to be described as living where the sun rises by Camerounians. Stop trying to fix the nonsense.

If you want to quote Judaic scripture in relations to Islam and Christianity you will lose, badly. Dont let me bring up their interpretations here for you, or their writings on Jesus. At least they acknowledge that Muslims are monotheists, unlike Christians who they see as idolators. And you cant understand their scriptures better than them.

This is complete trash !!!

Tell me a single city among the Igbo that is not in the East. We are talking about the location of Mecca, which is the East of Jerusalem. I didn't draw the map, it was drawn by an expert to show the location of Mecca.

When it suits you, you islamists quote the same Judaic Scripture to authenticate Muhammad or islam, wrongly though.

My friend, you keep skipping the area of following the ways of pagans in worshiping allahh, why? You haven't convinced anybody why islam is compatible with idolatry and how idolatry is compatible with islam, when God said He should not be worshiped as idolaters do. You also didn't talk about why islam is only about Ishmael and Hagai, what about other members of Abraham's family? Again, no prophets in the Bible recognized and visited Kaaba, then, how do you prove it was Abraham their father who built it?

Waiting anxiously for you !!!

aminusanti:


are u expecting me to read all dat trashy copy n paste ?? And thats what exactly am saying u r nothing but blind follower without reading ur foolish quotation i already know where u copy it, use that same google to search for the answer, u hardly find a muslim asking those silly question because we seek proper knowledge from knowledgeable pple before doing what u are doing . U don't just quote verse without any further reading of understand and post it here expecting reply when u already programmed urself whatever u copy n paste is true, that's why i still consider replying u as a waste of MB and time.
"Give your life to jesus" As GOD??

Luke 22:42
"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done."
God asking God for rescue...
Time shall tell
Just carry on with you man worship but my advise for u is to read carefully all the time without apply any sentiment.

It is Father, Son and Holy Spirit but you won't understand.

So you call the writing of your renown islamic scholars trash and not interested in your fate in the afterlife? I pity you.

aminusanti:


are u expecting me to read all dat trashy copy n paste ?? And thats what exactly am saying u r nothing but blind follower without reading ur foolish quotation i already know where u copy it, use that same google to search for the answer, u hardly find a muslim asking those silly question because we seek proper knowledge from knowledgeable pple before doing what u are doing . U don't just quote verse without any further reading of understand and post it here expecting reply when u already programmed urself whatever u copy n paste is true, that's why i still consider replying u as a waste of MB and time.
"Give your life to jesus" As GOD??

Luke 22:42
"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done."
God asking God for rescue...
Time shall tell
Just carry on with you man worship but my advise for u is to read carefully all the time without apply any sentiment.

It is Father, Son and Holy Spirit but you won't understand.

So, you are not interested in reading what your islamic scholars said about you fate in the afterlife and you call it trash? I pity you.

Farmerforlife:


[b]The only problem in your theory is that the orientation of Makkah with regards to Jerusalem is SOUTH, not East. [/b]Secondly, I think Muslims in 3/4 of the world, like the US, Europe, Asia, Australia and much of Africa are safe, because to them, Makkah is either South, North or West, or some combination thereof. Lol.

Pls get educated in geography before making such statements. It is really sad to see you do this to yourself.

Makkah is in the SOUTH East of Jerusalem. In Nigeria, the Igbos in the South East are referred to as people in the East.

Then, what about islamic worship that is compatible to idol worship? Nowhere else in the world we see idolaters worshiping their idols as God's people do. How is Islamic worship the same as idol worship? God particularly stated, as in the OP, that they should not worship Him the same way as idolaters do, which means God's worship is not compatible with idol worship. Again, God said all the altars and pillars used by idolaters should be destroyed. But in the case of Muhammad, he destroyed some and retained some, which gives the suspicion that he only destroyed other tribes' idols and retained his father's own.

To convince readers that Abraham laid the foundation of islamic worship that is the same as idol worship, state why no other members of Abraham's family participated in the islamic retuals in Mecca, also taking into cognisance that none of the Bible prophets recognized islamic worship in Mecca and were never there.

Look at the map below, Mecca is in the South East of Jerusalem

aminusanti:


says who?


* debunk what? proof?
* proof on God saying is abomination to face east



if u cant provide any straight foward statement from the above then read this

[5:72] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah himself said, "O Children of Israel, you shall worship GOD; my Lord* and your Lord." Anyone who sets up any idol beside GOD, GOD has forbidden Paradise for him, and his destiny is Hell. The wicked have no helpers.



how is it the same? in what sense?


he is nothing but a warner to the lost sheep of isreal and GOD decided to send him back again to prove to his worshippers that he never claim to be GOD or begotten son as u people proclaim.so, to God nothing is impossible, i don't have to prove that, GOD's miracle are there since b4 jesus.



u got that wrong bros
messieh in quran it simply means ome of the mightest messenger of GOD

read this carefully

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion or utter anything concerning Allah but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, His Word that He sent to Mary, and a Spirit from Him [that He sent]. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say “Three.” Desist, it is better for you! Allah is one God. Far exalted is He above having offspring. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth. Allah is sufficient a disposer of affairs. (4.171)

They have indeed disbelieved those who say: “Allah is the Messiah son of Mary.” Say [O Muhammad!]: “Who then can do anything against Allah if He had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, his mother, and everyone on earth?” Allah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He creates what He wills. Allah is able to do all things. (5.17)

The Messiah son of Mary was no other than a messenger before whom [similar] messengers passed away, and his mother was a saintly woman. They used to eat food [like other human beings]. See how We make the revelations clear to them, and see how they are deluded! (5.75)

Surely they disbelieve those who say: “Allah is the Messiah son of Mary.” The Messiah himself said: “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever joins other gods with Allah, for him Allah has forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. The evildoers shall have no helpers.” (5.72)


lying as usual. u need to improve



so, that makes him God?? how about other miracles that happend to the other prophets which were not bestowed on jesus??
and u are quoting from Satan Scripture as u claim. honstly, i can see why God created hell fire, u can cant even appy common sense to differiate btw good n bad and delibrately lying to urself.

Trash !!! You are not making any sense at all.

You are asking many questions already answered in the OP. I doubt if you read it at all.

In fact the OP is not refutable. The facts are there, which you pretend you didn't see. Fortunately, those who could understand have gotten the messages.

If you continue with allah (an arabian idol) and die worshiping him, no doubt you will end in hell. Look at what islamic scholars say about hell for all muslims:

These are the interpretations of islamic scholars about muslims' fate at afterlife:

Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71 (“Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification:
“Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al-islam.com.

Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.”
Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it.” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic)

Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning).” Nafi then laughed.

Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia.


In summary, every muslims will go into hell as soon as he/she dies. What a pity. Make sure you don't die a Muslim. Give your life to Jesus.

aminusanti:


if jesus(pbh) is d one you are reffering to as God, u are DOOMED i swear.
Tell us what we are doing thats disobeying God?? and how do we obey him??

Read the OP well well !!!

The Kaaba (East) you venerate and face to pray is the East God said is abomination. This debunks islamists claim that Abraham built Kaaba in the East, which God said is abomination to Him. Abraham would not do anything abominable to God.

God said His people should not worship Him the way idolaters do to their idols but you muslims worship allah the same way meccan pagans worship their idols. That means the god (allah) you worship the same way as idolaters do is not Yahweh the true God.

Jesus is not an ordinary human being. He is the only one who has been living in heaven for more than 2000 years without dying ( according to islam).

He is the only one called Messiah in your quran.

He is the only one called the word of allah in your quran.

See what Muhammad said about him:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:54:506

Satan touches every human being except Jesus should inform you that Jesus is not among ordinary human beings.

Samunique:
Honesty u are very correct !!!


Did u notice how he directly attacked Christians and Christianity even while no question was asked in that regard ?

Mehn , never knew this kind of prof existed in the west o, even El-Rufai who is know to be a bigot and fanatic would have done a better job than this man.

I'm not in any way against his religious belief in as much it does not infringe on my right, but the way and manner in which he spoke, by leaving subject he was asked to defend and started casting aspersion on others does not befit a professor !

I him like make en give him 3yr old daughter to shagari e no concern me, so far he no touch my daughter!
#paedophile is of the devil not of God !!!

Islam has no other message than attacking the Christians. 75% of the contents of the quran is about attack on the Jews and Christians, yet they say islam is a religion of peace.

Muslims shout Muhammad is in the Bible. In fact, allahh told them his name is there,(Quran 61:6) and for that reason, muslims comb the whole of the Bible in search of it. Any where they find "prophet" they say it is Muhammad, especially Deut. 18:18, and many other passages of the Bible.

Surprisingly, Muhammad's name is found in Hindus Scripture. Hinduism existed before islam and we all know that Hinduism is occultism, how come Muhammad's name is found in Satan's (Hinduism) Scripture. How could Muhammad eat from the table of God and also from the table of Satan?

Only Muhammad's name is in Hindus Scripture, Bible prophets are not there. The fact that Muhammad's name is in Satan's Book shows his source of prophethood. He was sent by the god of Hindus. Therefore, islam is just another department of Satan the Devil.

www.islam101.com/religions/hinduism/Mhs.htm

otemanuduno:


Funny. I started little by little... I have much to say and I can't give you all about me in a single post. The scrolls were hidden but the god of Egypt(the god of civilization) who is a brother of Jehovah is revealing them to me every day by day. See the link to the doctrine of truth here: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

Occultism !!!

It will be great if he succeeds.

So it is ISIS that are the true muslims.

otemanuduno:


Next to die? Good, I'll embrace it wholeheartedly when it comes at the right time. Then the real God will welcome me home. Buh lemme assure you, I can't die yet, why? because the mission God sent me to the world to fulfill, I have not totally fulfill it.

I AM OTEM, SENT TO THE WORLD TO REVEAL ALL THE THINGS WRITTTEN IN THE HIDDEN SCROLLS AND TABLETS FROM THE TIME OF THE BIG BANG TILL TODAY AND EVEN TO THE FUTURE TIMES.

You are inconsistent. First you said it only the Christians that go about preaching and now you claim you want reveal in "hidden scrolls" . So you too want to start disturbing people with your hidden scrolls. If the scrolls are hidden, how and where did you find them. Coming up with occult book.

otemanuduno:


Hardly will you hear a Buddhist or a Muslim go into the streets as early as 5am lying to you that a loving god will send his children to hell for breaking one of his laws which are not even clearly stated. Not only Christianity is a body of lies, but all religions in the whole world, but Christianity ranks first in the competition for the best psychological LIAR ever.

I pity you. You may be the next.

www.nairaland.com/3114308/why-atheists-not-problem-becoming

Annunaki:


And the idiiot claims to be educated, did you see how he contradicted himself when he brought of the issue of Nigerian constitution when the issue of forceful conversion was brought up whilst conveniently forgetting the Nigerian constitution on the issue of underage marriage. Religion of paedophile.

No muslim is educated when it comes to religious issues. The professors among them will reason the same way as almajeri.

vanguard90:
It is either they are being mischievous or do not understand Islam's stance on marriage
Islam only permits marriage endorsed by mutual consent of both parties, in fact that is the first cardinal rule of nikah(Islamic marriage).
The second factor is consent of both parents (guardian)

it is pertinent to note that no marriage is valid in Islam without these factors, i.e. you can't marry her without her consent or without that of her parents.
What happened in Ese's case was clearly abduction and must be treated as such.

The usual and hypocritical excuse. When muslims kill the islamic apologists says it's unislammic whereas we find it in the quran and hadith.

When they abduct girls illegally it is the sharia commission that forcefully wed them together. Doesn't sharia commission know islam?

aminusanti:
Compulsive Liar! All you need is time.

Which is my lie?

Did you see a Christian not believing the Bible like her? What makes her a Christian?

aminusanti:
Compulsive Liar! All you need is time.

Which is my lie?

Did you see a Christian not believing the Bible like her?

If you see these people with unkept bear-bear you better run for your dear life. Yet they claim their religion is from God. The world would have been better without them, they are a curse to the world.

4evergod2:



True! And they are running rife even here on nairaland. But you know that oftentimes Satanism and those people are interwoven.

They are one and the same.

Satan does not want the gospel preached.

4evergod2:
She was slaughtered. No mention of ritualistic scenario or if she was robbed.

I deduce say na dem dem....Those ones who just finished starving....


Its just an assumption o before they slaughter me too electronically.

Let me check for more clues.

They are the people that kill by slaughtering and they will tell you their religion is a religion of peace.

Satanists.

Rilwon:


Who condemned them?

Remember those that worship that idol in the first pics constitute large amount of Christian population, while the remaining amounts are worshipping a wooden cross. So which category do you fall in?

It is because they are idol worshipers that they are supporting the muslims their co-idol worshipers, birds of the same feathers.

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