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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 5:31pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Farmerforlife: truthman2012. My good friend, I won't rest until you provide answers to the above. Thank you. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: This Muslim Cleric Urged All Muslims To Convert To Christian To Avoid Hell Fire! by truthman2012(m): 5:21pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Thank God for the man's life. If it were the muslims on nairaland they will keep arguing, even with their own dream. We have been telling them that islam leads to hell, they are still very obstinate. Look below at what their islamic scholars said: These are the interpretations of islamic scholars about muslims' fate at afterlife: Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71 (“Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification: “Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al-islam.com. Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.” Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it.” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning).” Nafi then laughed. Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia. In summary, every muslims will go into hell as soon as he/she dies. What a pity. Make sure you don't die a Muslim. Give your life to Jesus. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do Muslims Deceive Themselves? by truthman2012(m): 3:50pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
[i]Islam as a religion of peace[/i] Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to c awl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses." Sahih Bukhari 1:11:626 How peaceful? |
Religion / Re: Truthman2012, by truthman2012(m): 3:15pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
ifenes: You have been answered already. You don't judge Christianity by the deed of men but the standard of Jesus. The Bible says " Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith (Heb. 12:2). 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Truthman2012, by truthman2012(m): 3:08pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
true2god: Great !!! |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do Muslims Deceive Themselves? by truthman2012(m): 2:06pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Muslims would run far away from this type of thread because they have nothing to say but would rush out like bees when they feel they have a point. If you don't break your silence and speak out, I will not hesitate to reveal some of the hadith that will make you call for the delete of this thread, I don't care. What is interesting to me is that some people, even if it is only one person, would have read it. 3 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 1:47pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Farmerforlife: Forget about muslims in Europe, US and Asia, it may not be East to them but as a the time of the Biblical statement, those who were facing the East turned their back to God's Temple and they were the idolaters in Mecca, the worship of which muslims also adopt for worshiping allaah. You still failed to tell why islam is about Ishmael and Hagai alone. Where were Isaac, Jacob and Sarah? Mind you, quran confirms that Isaac and Jacob had the covenant of prophethood (Quran 29:27), then, why were they excluded from islamic rituals in Mecca if truly Abraham established it? Again, islamists claim Adam first laid down the foundation of Kaaba without any proof that Adam was created in Mecca or ever lived there. Do you have any proof? Another point is: muslims say Adam started the building of Kaaba but when it came to the turn of Abraham, allaah threw a stone (the Back Stone) to him as the location where Kaaba should be built. Why would allaah throw any stone to locate the Kaaba site when the foundation was already there? What you explained about islamic rituals in Mecca that Abraham and Ishmael were the people who did them first before idolaters hijacked them is not believable. You can not prove that idolaters could use the same mode of worshiping God to worship their idols. It is like saying idolaters hijacked the Church and started shouting Jesus the way Christian do. It is not possible. It was Muhammad who introduced the ways his fathers worshipped their idols and turned it to islam. Yahweh the true God expressly forbade people to worship Him like idols. If allaah accepts him being worshiped like idols, it implies that Yahweh and allaah are not the same. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 8:32am On Jul 21, 2016 |
AmuDimpka: Meaning he is knowingly deceiving himself. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do Muslims Deceive Themselves? by truthman2012(m): 8:29am On Jul 21, 2016 |
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Islam for Muslims / Why Do Muslims Deceive Themselves? by truthman2012(m): 7:41am On Jul 21, 2016 |
When somebody creates a thread using islamic source(s), if it portrays islam in bad light, muslims would quickly report to mod and get it deleted. It was your fellow muslims who wrote or compiled those hadiths and could not be talking hill of their own prophet or islam to destroy it, they wrote exactly as it happened. Besides, I have proven it once that no hadith is weak or fabricated as all of them are found in islamic libraries. Not only that, hadiths have sequence: Book, Volume and Number. If any hadiths fall within the sequential order of a hadith writer it shows they were from him. You either believe the writer wholly or reject him wholly. It doesn't make sense believing some of his writings when it favours islam and rejecting some when it doesn't. Deleting threads to protect the image of islam is tantamount to self-deception. You know something and hide them from people seeing it. May God in His mercies deliver you guys. 1 Like 1 Share |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 7:15am On Jul 21, 2016 |
Farmerforlife: This is complete trash !!! Tell me a single city among the Igbo that is not in the East. We are talking about the location of Mecca, which is the East of Jerusalem. I didn't draw the map, it was drawn by an expert to show the location of Mecca. When it suits you, you islamists quote the same Judaic Scripture to authenticate Muhammad or islam, wrongly though. My friend, you keep skipping the area of following the ways of pagans in worshiping allahh, why? You haven't convinced anybody why islam is compatible with idolatry and how idolatry is compatible with islam, when God said He should not be worshiped as idolaters do. You also didn't talk about why islam is only about Ishmael and Hagai, what about other members of Abraham's family? Again, no prophets in the Bible recognized and visited Kaaba, then, how do you prove it was Abraham their father who built it? Waiting anxiously for you !!! |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 7:47pm On Jul 20, 2016 |
aminusanti: It is Father, Son and Holy Spirit but you won't understand. So you call the writing of your renown islamic scholars trash and not interested in your fate in the afterlife? I pity you. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 7:42pm On Jul 20, 2016 |
aminusanti: It is Father, Son and Holy Spirit but you won't understand. So, you are not interested in reading what your islamic scholars said about you fate in the afterlife and you call it trash? I pity you. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 7:03pm On Jul 20, 2016 |
Farmerforlife: Makkah is in the SOUTH East of Jerusalem. In Nigeria, the Igbos in the South East are referred to as people in the East. Then, what about islamic worship that is compatible to idol worship? Nowhere else in the world we see idolaters worshiping their idols as God's people do. How is Islamic worship the same as idol worship? God particularly stated, as in the OP, that they should not worship Him the same way as idolaters do, which means God's worship is not compatible with idol worship. Again, God said all the altars and pillars used by idolaters should be destroyed. But in the case of Muhammad, he destroyed some and retained some, which gives the suspicion that he only destroyed other tribes' idols and retained his father's own. To convince readers that Abraham laid the foundation of islamic worship that is the same as idol worship, state why no other members of Abraham's family participated in the islamic retuals in Mecca, also taking into cognisance that none of the Bible prophets recognized islamic worship in Mecca and were never there. Look at the map below, Mecca is in the South East of Jerusalem
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 6:49pm On Jul 20, 2016 |
aminusanti: Trash !!! You are not making any sense at all. You are asking many questions already answered in the OP. I doubt if you read it at all. In fact the OP is not refutable. The facts are there, which you pretend you didn't see. Fortunately, those who could understand have gotten the messages. If you continue with allah (an arabian idol) and die worshiping him, no doubt you will end in hell. Look at what islamic scholars say about hell for all muslims: These are the interpretations of islamic scholars about muslims' fate at afterlife: Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71 (“Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification: “Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al-islam.com. Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.” Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it.” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning).” Nafi then laughed. Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia. In summary, every muslims will go into hell as soon as he/she dies. What a pity. Make sure you don't die a Muslim. Give your life to Jesus. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Muslims Will Have No Excuse Before God by truthman2012(m): 4:07pm On Jul 20, 2016 |
aminusanti: Read the OP well well !!! The Kaaba (East) you venerate and face to pray is the East God said is abomination. This debunks islamists claim that Abraham built Kaaba in the East, which God said is abomination to Him. Abraham would not do anything abominable to God. God said His people should not worship Him the way idolaters do to their idols but you muslims worship allah the same way meccan pagans worship their idols. That means the god (allah) you worship the same way as idolaters do is not Yahweh the true God. Jesus is not an ordinary human being. He is the only one who has been living in heaven for more than 2000 years without dying ( according to islam). He is the only one called Messiah in your quran. He is the only one called the word of allah in your quran. See what Muhammad said about him: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead.” Sahih Bukhari 4:54:506 Satan touches every human being except Jesus should inform you that Jesus is not among ordinary human beings. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Professor: There Is No Age Limit In Marriage by truthman2012(m): 8:40pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Samunique: Islam has no other message than attacking the Christians. 75% of the contents of the quran is about attack on the Jews and Christians, yet they say islam is a religion of peace. |
Islam for Muslims / Why Did Muhammad's Name Appear In Hindus Scripture? by truthman2012(m): 8:17pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Muslims shout Muhammad is in the Bible. In fact, allahh told them his name is there,(Quran 61:6) and for that reason, muslims comb the whole of the Bible in search of it. Any where they find "prophet" they say it is Muhammad, especially Deut. 18:18, and many other passages of the Bible. Surprisingly, Muhammad's name is found in Hindus Scripture. Hinduism existed before islam and we all know that Hinduism is occultism, how come Muhammad's name is found in Satan's (Hinduism) Scripture. How could Muhammad eat from the table of God and also from the table of Satan? Only Muhammad's name is in Hindus Scripture, Bible prophets are not there. The fact that Muhammad's name is in Satan's Book shows his source of prophethood. He was sent by the god of Hindus. Therefore, islam is just another department of Satan the Devil. www.islam101.com/religions/hinduism/Mhs.htm 5 Likes |
Religion / Re: Eunice Elisha Olawale Killed In Kubwa, Abuja, During Early Morning Preaching by truthman2012(m): 7:48pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
otemanuduno: Occultism !!! 5 Likes |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Isis Leader Al-baghdadi Calls For Destruction Of Kaaba Stone by truthman2012(m): 7:40pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
It will be great if he succeeds. So it is ISIS that are the true muslims. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Eunice Elisha Olawale Killed In Kubwa, Abuja, During Early Morning Preaching by truthman2012(m): 7:04pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
otemanuduno: You are inconsistent. First you said it only the Christians that go about preaching and now you claim you want reveal in "hidden scrolls" . So you too want to start disturbing people with your hidden scrolls. If the scrolls are hidden, how and where did you find them. Coming up with occult book. 41 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Eunice Elisha Olawale Killed In Kubwa, Abuja, During Early Morning Preaching by truthman2012(m): 6:39pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
otemanuduno: I pity you. You may be the next. www.nairaland.com/3114308/why-atheists-not-problem-becoming 14 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Professor: There Is No Age Limit In Marriage by truthman2012(m): 6:31pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Annunaki: No muslim is educated when it comes to religious issues. The professors among them will reason the same way as almajeri. |
Religion / Re: Abduction Of Kufar Girls: Misunderstanding Of Islam Or Sunnah Of The Prophet by truthman2012(m): 6:23pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
vanguard90: The usual and hypocritical excuse. When muslims kill the islamic apologists says it's unislammic whereas we find it in the quran and hadith. When they abduct girls illegally it is the sharia commission that forcefully wed them together. Doesn't sharia commission know islam? |
Religion / Re: See What The Muslims Worship by truthman2012(m): 6:02pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
aminusanti: Which is my lie? Did you see a Christian not believing the Bible like her? What makes her a Christian? |
Religion / Re: See What The Muslims Worship by truthman2012(m): 6:02pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
aminusanti: Which is my lie? Did you see a Christian not believing the Bible like her? |
Religion / Re: Eunice Elisha Olawale Killed In Kubwa, Abuja, During Early Morning Preaching by truthman2012(m): 5:52pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
If you see these people with unkept bear-bear you better run for your dear life. Yet they claim their religion is from God. The world would have been better without them, they are a curse to the world. 133 Likes 11 Shares |
Religion / Re: Eunice Elisha Olawale Killed In Kubwa, Abuja, During Early Morning Preaching by truthman2012(m): 5:48pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
4evergod2: They are one and the same. Satan does not want the gospel preached. 64 Likes 9 Shares |
Religion / Re: Eunice Elisha Olawale Killed In Kubwa, Abuja, During Early Morning Preaching by truthman2012(m): 5:40pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
4evergod2: They are the people that kill by slaughtering and they will tell you their religion is a religion of peace. Satanists. 207 Likes 17 Shares |
Religion / Re: See What Christians Worship by truthman2012(m): 5:31pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Rilwon: It is because they are idol worshipers that they are supporting the muslims their co-idol worshipers, birds of the same feathers. www.nairaland.com/3095303/catholic-fraternity-islam |
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