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Christianity EtcRe: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by truthmans2012(op): 10:21am On Oct 07, 2016
Talasuma:
If you put too much mind for religion matter, na confirm free madness. Wey go pass Terry G own.
Cus some records in both Holy Books is incomplete.

For example, during the time of Adam, he had two sons, Cain and Abel, where did Cain's wife come from? Cus it wasn't recorded that she was created or born.
That is another topic, not related to this .
Christianity EtcRe: Did Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by truthmans2012(op): 9:53am On Oct 07, 2016
SUPERPACK:
did u believe that the sun stood still during the time of joshua.
Joshua 10:13
So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.
Joshua caused eclipse of the sun and we can see that happening till today.
Christianity EtcDid Muhammad Truly Split The Moon? by truthmans2012(op): 9:43am On Oct 07, 2016
The Qur'an and Hadith claim that the moon was miraculously split into two pieces and then, presumably, put back together again. There is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever that the moon has ever been split into two. Since the moon is visible to half the planet at any given time, we should expect to see numerous accounts from different parts of the world attesting to this event if it actually happened. The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Chinese and Indians had avid astronomers who should have seen this event and recorded it in their histories. The absence of historical record from other civilizations, contemporary to Muhammad, is a strong indication that this event never happened.
Christianity EtcRe: Checkout What The Bible And Quran Says About Killing. by truthmans2012: 8:57am On Oct 07, 2016
Scholar8200:
Indeed, and when Israel did the same thing they were driven out by other nations; Justice!
Succinct!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Checkout What The Bible And Quran Says About Killing. by truthmans2012: 8:56am On Oct 07, 2016
bashir1451:
Do you imply Jesus was only sent to the lordship of Israel?
How did you mean "lordship "?

Did you mean lost sheep?

Don't let the Devil interpret the Bible to you. There is time for everything. First, it was time for Israel and later for the gentile nations. Jesus commanded his disciples : go into all the world and preach the Gospel, when the time for the gentile came.
Christianity EtcRe: Checkout What The Bible And Quran Says About Killing. by truthmans2012: 8:48am On Oct 07, 2016
Deicide:
winner01 those people living in the promised land what where they killed for? u know we had this argument b4 so u can't lie
The Canannites were not killed for worshiping another god, God said they were wicked and didn't deserve the good land they were living.
Christianity EtcRe: Checkout What The Bible And Quran Says About Killing. by truthmans2012: 7:27pm On Oct 06, 2016
You islamists don't know the interpretation of Exodus 22:20. The children of Israel were living by God's Laws. The Laws of God was their constitution. It was the Law of God that no one should worship another God in the community of Israel. The law was not binding on non-Israel community. There were many communities surrounding Israel and God didn't command them to go killing them.

When the Israelites were in Egypt, no Egyptian was killed for worshiping idols.
IslamMuslims Prayer That Is Never Answered by truthmans2012(op): 8:17pm On Oct 01, 2016
This is one of the sections of muslims five times prayers:

While standing

While standing, the first chapter of the Quran is recited. This chapter can be translated as follows.

“In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds. Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Master of the Day of Judgment. Thee (alone) we worship and Thee (alone) we ask for help. Show us the straight path. The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.” (1:1-1:7)

Muslims keep praying to Allah five times a day to show them the right path since the days of Muhammad, about 1,400 years ago. Todate, they are still asking endlessly.

Does Allah answer prayers, if yes, why did he not give the answer to Muhammad what the right path is to lead his followers?

Since muslims have been praying for the right path and never shown, it shows those of them who have died have no hope, as they didn't find the right path till they died.

It further shows that the Quran is not good enough to show the right path, hence despite it, muslims still need praying for the right path.
Christianity EtcRe: Crusaders' War Was A Reprisal Against Muslims by truthmans2012(op): 5:59pm On Oct 01, 2016
truthmans2012:
Typical muslims reasoning.

The crusaders fought to retrieve their land from islamic invaders, and you call it atrocities.
Sorry for you.

Turning the other cheek is what muslims think they can keep capitalizing on, when you Islamist commit atrocities, you believe that after all, they will not retaliate. That is not to be anymore. Trying to change people's faith by forcefully converting them to Islam is more than turning the other cheek.

But your allah says and I quote : “Say: “The truth is from your Lord.” Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject (it).” (Quran 18:29)

With that statement, why did he still say muslims should fight till only islam remains?

I challenge you to mention where Christians invade people's land and Christianized them like muslims are doing around the world.
Christianity EtcRe: Crusaders' War Was A Reprisal Against Muslims by truthmans2012(op): 3:27pm On Oct 01, 2016
Rilwayne001:
Maybe you should re-read my post wink angry
Now answer my question:

Where did you find Christians invading other people's territory, with a view to Christianizing them like muslims are doing?
Christianity EtcRe: Crusaders' War Was A Reprisal Against Muslims by truthmans2012(op): 3:23pm On Oct 01, 2016
Rilwayne001:
Maybe you should re-read my post wink angry
In the First Crusade, flourishing communities on the Rhine and the Danube were attacked by Crusaders, yet many were spared due to the efforts of the Papacy (see German Crusade, 1096). In the Second Crusade (1147) the Jews in France suffered especially. Philip Augustus treated them with exceptional severity during the Third Crusade (1188). The Jews were also subjected to attacks by the Shepherds' Crusades of 1251 and 1320.

The attacks were opposed by the local bishops and widely condemned at the time as a violation of the crusades aim, which was not directed against the Jews.[1] However, the perpetrators mostly escaped legal punishment.Also, the social position of the Jews in western Europe distinctly worsened, and legal restrictions increased during and after the crusades. They prepared the way for anti-Jewish legislation of Pope Innocent III. The crusades resulted in centuries of strong feelings of ill will on both sides and hence constitute a turning point in the relationship between Jews and Christians.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_the_Crusades

The Jews were not the targets but the islamic invaders and those who killed the Jews were to be punished but escaped.
Christianity EtcRe: Crusaders' War Was A Reprisal Against Muslims by truthmans2012(op):
Rilwayne001:
There are fanatics in every religion, this is something you cannot deny. Christianity terrorism, however, started in the OT.. Don't forget Jesus the alleged God Almighty was the one ordering Moses and other of his foot soldiers to kill for him. shocked



The crusade war is just one of the many atrocities committed in history in the name of christ.



Let me agree with you here for the sake of argument. But then i thought Jesus told you to turn the other cheek? Why engage in a reprisal attack since Jesus told you to flee to another town if you are persecuted in a place? (don't get me wrong, I'm not in support of initiating unwarranted attacks) but then i will have to ask you, are you of the opinion that Christianity supports reprisal attack? Please don't tell me it doesn't because you already affirm to it here undecided



but we have heard of Jesus instructing Moses and his jihadists to kill people and possibly force them to acknowledge him.




But what do you have to say about the fact that during the First Crusade, thousands of Jews slaughtered and in the third Crusade: English Jewish communities were sacked? Are Jews Muslims too?
Typical muslims reasoning.

The crusaders fought to retrieve their land from islamic invaders, and you call it atrocities.
Sorry for you.

Turning the other cheek is what muslims think they can keep capitalizing on, when you Islamist commit atrocities, you believe that after all, they will not retaliate. That is not to be anymore. Trying to change people's faith by forcefully converting them to Islam is more than turning the other cheek.

But your allah says and I quote : “Say: “The truth is from your Lord.” Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject (it).” (Quran 18:29)

With that statement, why did he still say muslims should fight till only islam remains?

I challenge you to mention where Christians invade people's land and Christianized them like muslims are doing around the world.
Christianity EtcRe: Crusaders' War Was A Reprisal Against Muslims by truthmans2012(op): 2:09pm On Oct 01, 2016
annunaki2:
I shudder when I think of what would have happened to this world had God not used the glorious crusaders to stop the evil marauding jihadist from spreading their satanic religion across europe and by extension the rest of the world.

I also find it even more amusing when deliberately dishonest muslims try to equate the crusaders with islamic terrorists/jihadist. Since when did it become and act of terror to defend yourself from evil invadershuh Or where the Europeans expected to sit down and watch the marauding jihadist take over their land, rape their women and forcefully convert them to their sick religionhuh Islamic logic really beffudles me
Yet, they would want us to believe islamic wars are for self defence. They go forcefully occupying other people's land in the name of islam, and they still have the gut to say islam is a religion of peace. You can see that level of satanic deception.

I challenge any muslim to tell us where the Christians forcefully took over other people's nation, with the aim of Christianizing them as muslims are doing. It doesn't take rocket science to discover islam is not from God. God will not force unbelievers but leave them to their free will.
Christianity EtcCrusaders' War Was A Reprisal Against Muslims by truthmans2012(op): 10:43am On Oct 01, 2016
Each time we talk about the evil of Islamic terrorism, muslims jump out and claim we have same in Christianity. They refer to the Crusaders war. It is pertinent to state that the war was a reprisal against the muslims who initiated it, characteristic of them. We have never heard of Christians, against the warning of Jesus Christ, going to cities, towns and villages forcing people to Christianity like the muslims do, right from the time of Mohammed. Here is a brief history :

The first of the Crusades began in 1095, when armies of Christians from Western Europe responded to Pope Urban II’s plea to go to war against Muslim forces in the Holy Land. After the First Crusade achieved its goal with the capture of Jerusalem in 1099, the invading Christians set up several Latin Christian states, even as Muslims in the region vowed to wage holy war (jihad) to regain control over the region. Deteriorating relations between the Crusaders and their Christian allies in the Byzantine Empire culminated in the sack of Constantinople in 1204 during the Third Crusade. Near the end of the 13th century, the rising Mamluk dynasty in Egypt provided the final reckoning for the Crusaders, toppling the coastal stronghold of Acre and driving the European invaders out of Palestine and Syria in 1291.

We can see that the Crusaders recaptured Jerusalem from the muslims after they had forcefully driven away the inhabitants.

http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
Christianity EtcRe: Is Tabari Or Mohammed The Bigot Here? by truthmans2012: 8:30pm On Sep 18, 2016
Muhammad is the most wicked man that ever lived on the planet earth, yet muslims say is the best man and their role model. No wonder beheading is no big deal for muslims.
Christianity EtcRe: When Did God Become This Weak? by truthmans2012(op): 7:24pm On Sep 17, 2016
yorhmienerd:
I'm a Christian but I hate to argue on trivial issues like this. Thanks
You called a matter of salvation a trivial issue? It shows the type of a Christian you are.

A knowledgeable Christian is expected to know that Jesus is the only way to heaven.

Jesus said "I'm the Way the Truth and the Life, nobody can come unto God but by me (John 14:6).

The joy the Devil has today is the ignorance of many who claim to be Christians, but do not know their God. I have heard some Christians who claim islam is also from God. When you hear some Christians become muslims , it is this category of people who do. It is a pity the Devil is catching on some people.
Christianity EtcRe: When Did God Become This Weak? by truthmans2012(op): 5:23pm On Sep 17, 2016
yorhmienerd:
The end justifies the means
You don't need to wait till the end when it will be too late. Allah has already made his mind known to you and it is his decree. Quran 3:185, 19:68-69 make it clear that muslims fate at death is hellfire. What are you still expecting?
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 5:17pm On Sep 17, 2016
Perhaps:
Let's agree they didn't do a research.
Let's agree they were deceived.

So, what would have been their alternative?
Christianity?
The same Christianity that shoots itself in the leg while trying to prove its the way?
Nah.
Astagfirulah, i'd rather die a kafr than being a christian.
(Astagfirulah).
It seems you hate your own soul. Islam leads to hell and the quran confirms it.

Anyway, God is not interested in your religion but your relationship with Him, but must be through Jesus Christ. Being a Christian does not guarantee automatic entry to heaven but the Quran confirms automatic entry to hell for all muslims. What a pity.
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 4:56pm On Sep 17, 2016
Is islamic solat prayer per se ?

Prayer is supposed to be supplication i. e making request from God. But muslims'prayer is mandatory. Do you make request by force?
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 4:50pm On Sep 17, 2016
Perhaps:
undecided undecided undecided undecided
Did you even read the above text?
Please oooo, do mention what part of the Quran the god in your book was referred to as a God and not a god for me.
LOL. Abi, when did Quran start using capitalization?



Oga, stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
Dispensation ko. Dispenser ni.
How do you people even wrap this around your head?
You claim your gods are 1.
And apparently, according to you now, they all chose different times to rule and or speak in the Bible.
The Father(URL fada) chose The old Testament, his bastard son(isn't he?) chose the new Testament and the lucky bastard who slept(or what word did your book use again) with an innocent woman chose Now?

I mean, how fundamentally putrid can your line of thinking be. One person divided himself into 3 and decided when each one of those 3 divisions would appear.
Your god is one and 3 at the same time..

LOL. Wait.
LOL. You think you're smart shey.
So, as not to attribute the old testament shit to Jesus, your purposely left the Father's name as the dispenser(Sorry dispensation) in your Old testament.

Oga, u don finish yourself.
You nor get anything sensible to talk again.
Go and check your usual websites and come back with new contents to attack Islam with jare.


Oh. By the way,i heard you're a man of over 30 years.
Wow.
If it's true,
I'm really really really ashamed of you.

You shouldn't be showing little kids like me your delusion online.
I mean, you didn't learn anything while growing up ni?




I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.

You're probably getting too old for this so I'd forgive you for slipping.
I know you won't understand. Spiritual things are for the spiritual minds.

Let's face front, treat the subject of the thread.
Christianity EtcWhen Did God Become This Weak? by truthmans2012(op):
There is no doubt that both the Old and New Testament are the words of God. The Quran calls them Torah and Injeel. Nothing was wrong with the Old Testament in writing but in the interpretation by the the Scribes. Those who practiced them rightly got to heaven by it. At least, the Bible prophets made even by it.

Then, Jesus came and corrected the Jews, which is called the Gospel. Having made the necessary corrections, He declared " And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations and then the end will come (Mat. 24:14). By implication, it is the Gospel God expected to be preached till the end of the world. Why would He change His mind to Islam?

The disciples following the footsteps of Jesus preached the Gospel and God confirmed their words with signs and wonders. This shows God is the pillar behind the Gospel, hence the miracles following their preachings.

The question therefore is: why would God change his mind and move to Islam after 650 years Jesus had gone? The Jews and Christians who didn't believe in Muhammad was because they didn't see God's hands in his ministry as he couldn't heal the sick nor raise the dead. When the sick came to him he would recommend herbs for them: camel urine, samsam water, dates etc .

Islam was not revealed with God's power in intervening in man's situations. It could be true that Muhammad heard from a spirit, but the spirit didn't demonstrate Gods power to liberate man from his adversary. I have never heard of Muhammad or muslims delivering people possessed of the evil spirits. In fact, I am yet to see muslims in spiritual battle with forces of darkness.

When Muhammad's jihadists ate poison, no attempt by him to deliver them by way of prayers. When he himself was sick, they read the Quran on him but it didn't work, yet they call the Quran a miracle. Gabriel who brought the Quran prayed for him to be healed, yet he died. He promised Allah would heal him, but he couldn't. Where is God's power at play? The fact that Gabriel prayed shows it was not yet time for Muhammad to die, yet he died. When did the Almighty God become so weak?
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 1:41pm On Sep 17, 2016
mustymatic:
Do you believe Jesus to be the god of the old testament or not?
Firstly, we do not have god but God. Your Quran recognizes the God of the Bible as God and not god. Understand?

There are dispensations in the Bible. The Old Testament is the dispensation of the Father, while the New Testament when Jesus was alive in the physical is the dispensation of the Son and now is the dispensation of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said if he didn't go the Holy Spirit would not come, which means one came to replace the other.

Remember the Book of Genesis was written many years before Jesus came yet, we are told in Genesis that God said "Let's Us create man in our own image and after Our likeness . Doesn't this suggest anything to you?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is The Boss: Allah Or Mohammed? by truthmans2012: 12:59pm On Sep 17, 2016
true2god:
I have spent over 5 years working in an organized private sector of the Nigerian economy. One thing that is common is the desire of the subordinates to please their masters or superiors in order to gain favor, money, comfort or promotion. When I became an Islamic online scholar, I noticed a replica of some work ethics, vis-à-vis the boss-servant relationship, in the relationship between allahh and Mohammed. I saw this similarities being played in the Quran and the hadith. Let us look into this scenario below, as recorded in the hadith and the Qur'an, to make a conclusion.

In Quran 33:51, it says:
"You (Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive whom you will. And whomsoever you desire of those whom you have set aside (her turn temporarily), it is no sin on you (to receive her again), that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieved, and may all be pleased with what you give them. God knows what is in your hearts. And God is Ever All-Knowing, Most Forbearing."


From the above statement, allahh was ready to ensure Mohammed's happiness and making sure his apostle is well satisfied. As a junior staff, I always desire the satisfaction of my superior officer. Who is the boss here?

In sahih bukhari 6:60:311, Aisha, the Islamic prophet's wife, said that it seems allahh is always ready to fulfil the request and desires of the apostle of Islam. Any loyal servant will try, as much as he can, to fulfil the desire of his master. Who is the boss here, allahh or Mohammed?

To make the prophet of allahh happy, allahh asked Mohammed to take more than 4 wives if he desires (Quran 33:50) but asked ordinary Muslims to take a maximum of 4. Allahh ready to give his apostle preferential treatments. Bosses are usually given preferential treatment in all cases. Who is the boss, Mohammed or allahh?
Me I think say na Muhammad bi di boss o!!!

On many occasions, Mohammed disobeyed Allah and nothing came out of them. He was violating Allah's order with impunity.

Another surprising thing is allah's interest in Muhammad's sexual life. Yahweh never showed concern how prophets should sleep with their wives. Why is allah so interested in sex? Even his fictitious aljannah is full of virgins for his jihadists, while Jesus said there is no male or female in heaven, but we will be like angels.


This Allah is fake o!!!
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 12:42pm On Sep 17, 2016
Perhaps:
Some Christians pray to Mary.
Some wear white garment.
Some do not clone their eyes while praying.
Some don't belive in marriage.
Some don't believe in Christmas.

Does that mean your god might still change his mind on all what's going to happen to them?
Those are ordinances of men. God didn't talk about them.
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 12:39pm On Sep 17, 2016
true2god:
Islamic prayer was actually a formal gathering by Mohammed and his sahabas to make it easier for them to converge for war. That is why muslims can put their AK47 riffle by their side and pray then resume war immediately after prayers.

Mohammed is one of the most brilliant war strategist in history, he conceived the idea of barracks during his time. The mosque is like a barracks, said the Turkish president Erdogan, while Muslims are the soldiers of Allah h. The periodics gatherings at the prophet's mosque in Medina helped the Muslims prepare and plan their war against the kafirs.

In most Muslim countries, war plans are made in the mosque. Most riots and protest in the Muslim world take place immediately after Friday prayers at the mosques hence showing the significance of Islamic prayers on the larger society. In Saudi Arabia, all Islamic clerics are on govt pay roll, this is to ensure that the imams and sheiks do not incite people from the mosque.

So the Islamic multiple prayers at the time of Mohammed is to ensure that all soldiers are together in preparation for attacks against the kafirs.
Soo revealing!!!
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 4:29pm On Sep 16, 2016
tintingz:
And who told you christians have not being killing and terrorizing people, starting from christianity history on crusade was very bloody.
They had internal conflict, they weren't going killing unbelievers.
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 3:44pm On Sep 16, 2016
tintingz:
This is the problem with some people, you will always find fault in other people's beliefs.

Before most people convert they must have done research before jumping in, now you are talking about light and darkness because people want to follow other faiths.

People have their choice to choose what they want to believe in, that's why Quran said "Let there be no compulsion in religion" " You do yours I do mine".

So if people say Muhammad (SA) was a womanizer, killer as they claim(Lies), why do we still have people converting/reverting to Islam daily.

I don't care if He killed or not (even though there are killings in OT bible) all I know is that such statement call for killing.
What research does an innocent person who is deceived do? From what we read about Muhammad, how could anyone know them and still believe he is prophet of God?

If Jesus meant violence for this world, we Christians would have been doing like you muslims, killing and terrorizing the people.
Christianity EtcRe: Islamic State Again In France, This Time Failed ! by truthmans2012: 2:49pm On Sep 16, 2016
aminusanti:
enlighthen urself first wicked soul

* Is Jesus GoD?
* is old testament authentic?
* who was the GOD in OT that issued all the killings in OT ? wasn't that ur GOD jesus?
senseless pple
So you are confirming allah issued terrorism?

I couldn't find where Yahweh ordered the Jews to go killing idolaters to force them into Judaism.
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 7:18am On Sep 16, 2016
tintingz:
Like have said that was Allah original plan, I have quoted a verse for you.

You just wanna argue for argument sake.
How do you mean?

It was Allah's plan to make mistake and be corrected by Moses?
IslamRe: How Was Muslims Prayers Reduced From 50 To 5? by truthmans2012(op): 7:15am On Sep 16, 2016
Empiree:
You are a typical kafir. The way you reasoned was exactly the way Jews of old used to behave until they were finally condemned eternally as a community. A muslim can try million times to correct you but you may never change. Just like when Moses and Jesus(p) used to preach to them, they would place their fingers in their ears. That's exactly who you are {same traits}.
Your explanation does not hold water.
Christianity EtcRe: The "Suya-loving" God Of The Bible: by truthmans2012: 10:07pm On Sep 15, 2016
Quran 2:
67. Remember, when Moses said to his people: “Allah demands that you sacrifice a cow,” they said: “Are you making fun of us?” And he said: “Allah forbid that I be of the ignorant.”
68. “Call on your Lord for us,” they said, “that He might inform us what kind she should be.” “Neither old nor young, says Allah , but of age in between,” answered Moses. “So do as you are bid.”
69. “Call on your Lord,” they said, “to tell us the colour of the cow.” “Allah says,” answered Moses, “a fawn coloured cow, rich yellow, well pleasing to the eye.”
70. “Call on your Lord,” they said, “to name its variety, as cows be all alike to us. If God wills we shall be guided aright.”
71. And Moses said: “He says it’s a cow unyoked, nor worn out by ploughing or watering the fields, one in good shape with no mark or blemish.” “Now have you brought us the truth,” they said; and then, after wavering, they sacrificed the cow.


Rilwon, Allah loved suya too o!!!!

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