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Theguided:
The islam you formed in ur imagination? maybe it's christianity that you wanted to describe where you believe someone died for your sins and you're good to go. In islam you are responsible for your sins and even if you pray 5 times daily unless you ask for forgiveness.

Does Allah forgive muslims' sins? If he does, why are your sins and good deeds recorded for judgement on the day of resurrection?

Muslims don't have any idea of Godliness. They can abuse, even when they are preaching. They can maim and kill. Violent people.

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NeoWanZaeed:
Was jesus a christian? Tell us, did he belong to catholic or pentecostal or the other one or jehovah witness? Did jesus know about the existence of bible? Una bibles different fr0m eachother and even ur beliefs. How did jesus do bury the dead, naming cerem0ny, wedding and others? CHRISTIANITY SIMPLY MEANS A BOOK WRITTEN BY UNKN0WN AUTHORS WITHOUT AUTHENTICATION OF THE HISTORY RECORDED, FOUND BY THE WHITES . BLENDED WITH WHITE CULTURES. .USED TO COLONISE AND STEAL AFRICA NATURAL RESOURCES. .

Mathew 16:18
And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Who do build a church?

Can you tell me any Bible verse that contradicts itself?

Islam seems to be very fashionable these days. Why? Because it is growing numerically. A muslim man at the age of 30 would have got three or four wives and many children.

Places in the South West where muslims are very few about 30 years ago are being dominated by them today due to uncontrolled birth. Many of them don't count the cost of having many children. No wonder many of their children are uneducated. You find them in majority as carpenters, bricklayers, mechanics and other artisanship.

Islam appeals to carnal minds as you can commit any kinds of sin but just keep observing solat five times a day and you are good to go with Allah. Islam does not require any self-denial to please their god. This is the reason many find it convenient to practice it and it appears to them so fashionable.

The Bible says that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination to God ( Luke 16:15). That means to say Islam falls in that category.

Jesus said when I come back will I find faith? (Luke 18:8 ). As islam is not the faith Jesus expected to find, he will meet them plenty as Chritianity is dwindling as Jesus prophesied. But he was talking about the Christians who follow him.

The only muslim who reacted could not put up any defence other than a mere abuse.

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Kamdil:
this is the after effect of taking contraband substances . too much tramadol isn't good for your health, it is making your stupidity colourless.

This is the result of lack of defence. The write-up is very clear for those who want to know the truth.

“O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." (Quran 61:6)

Why would Jesus still refer us to Ahmad when he said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, nobody can come unto God except through me? (John 14:6). He said he is the way and not one of the ways, meaning that there is no other way. Since he is the only way, he could not direct us away from himself to a man who does not know the way

Funny enough, Ahmad who the Quran says Jesus referred us to is also searching for the way, which he didn't find till his death as confirmed by the Quran itself: SHOW US THE STRAIGHT PATH,
The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray". (Quran 1:6-7).
How would the Way (Jesus) direct us to Ahmad who is still looking for the Way? This doesn't make both physical or spiritual sense.

Was it not the same Jesus who said " An this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world (Arabs inclusive) for a witness to all nations and then the end will come (Mat. 24:14), which means that it is the Gospel that should be preached till the end of time. Why would he refer us to Islam brought by Ahmad contradicting himself?

The same Jesus said : Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen (Mathew 28: 19-20).

Till the end of the world here again means that the Gospel is to be preached till the end of the world, who sent Ahmad to bring Islam?

Muslims are therefore advised to be suspicious of the speaker in the Quran.

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haekymbahd:
i don't know about you but my own prayer was answered and still being answered and I am certain that Islam is the right path for me yet I still pray everyday for Allah to show me the way.

It amuses me when Christians says Christianity is relationship with God and that Islam is only a religion.

To me I have a relationship with Allah also I pray 5 times daily Allah is always with me and he is my guide.

Allah SWT said:


"Say, Indeed, my Lord has guided me to a straight path - a correct religion - the way of Abraham, inclining toward truth. And he was not among those who associated others with Allah."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 161)

"Say, Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 162)

"Say, Is it other than Allah I should desire as a lord while He is the Lord of all things? And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 164)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Do you ask people for the way to your village or town? Why, because you already know it. But when you ask people to show you the way to your village when you already know it, something must be wrong somewhere. If you know the way to your god and you keep asking five times a day, something is wrong somewhere.

haekymbahd:
Allah SWT said:


"So whoever Allah wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide - He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 125)

"And this is the path of your Lord, [leading] straight. We have detailed the verses for a people who remember."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 126)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Muslims are already on the right path and Satan is the common enemy trying to derail humans from the right path so I don't see any problem if Muslims pray to Allah to keep them on the straight path and not let their heart deviate like what happened to the people of the scriptures. And for Allah to prevent us from falling for tricks of Satan and make us die as Muslims.

Muslims don't pray for Allah to KEEP them on the straight path, they pray for Allah to SHOW them the straight path. This prayer remains unanswered for more than a thousand years as they keep praying so five times a day.

SHOW US THE STRAIGHT PATH,
The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray". (Quran 1:6-7)

Aldebaran:
You said "Bible Verses Many Christians Don't Believe"

Why bring MUSLIMS and ISLAM into all the rubbish and quotes you took from your Bible?

I brought Islam into it because if all Christians truly believe those cited Biblical verses, they will not see Islam as another religion from the true God.

haekymbahd:
kindly explain this in relation to your post?

John 16

26 At that time you will ask (pray) in My Name; and I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf

27 For the Father Himself [tenderly] loves you because you have loved Me and have believed that I came out from the Father.


As Muslims we love Jesus and also believe he was sent by God.

Even the father loves the Muslims...

Who was the way during time of Noah, Abraham, David, Moses because God himself never came directly he spoke through the prophets.

Also not everyone who follow Jesus or call on Jesus are on the right way.. so God is the absolute truth.


Allah SWT said:


"That is because Allah is the Truth, and that which they call upon other than Him is falsehood, and because Allah is the Most High, the Grand."
(QS. Al-Hajj 22: Verse 62)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Even the Father loves the muslims?

Which Farher are you talking about as Allah is not a Father because he doesn't beget neither is he begotten?

Can you answer this question?

1. Why are muslims praying to find the straight path and didn't find?

Holumhidey:
#endsars

Nonsense

Here are some Biblical verses many Christians overlook, and fail to ponder upon. Any Christian who believes in any other religion, which has no foundation in Christ Jesus is yet to know his/her God. What makes you a Christian is your firm belief in the Bible.

(1) John 14:6
Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me

Jesus said he is the way and not one of the ways. If you believe him as a Christian, you will not see anyone who doesn't believe him as also being on God's side.
Muslims don't believe in this only way and go about seeking another way, which they are yet to get for thousands of years now and will never get because there is no other way to God.

They pray five times a day asking for the way but they have not been shown and cannot be shown the way as there is none other than Jesus. If they have been shown the way (the straight path), they would have ceased praying for it, not only everyday but as many as five times everyday. You don't pray everyday for what you have got.

"SHOW US THE STRAIGHT PATH,
The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray". (Quran 1:6-7)

That quranic verse points to the following facts:
(a) That Muslims themselves know they are not on the way (the straight path) and that is why they are seriously looking for it for more than a thousand years now.
(b) That the Islam they have been practicing is not the way, hence they are looking for another way. If Islam has been enough for them as a way, they would still not be praying for another way.
(c) The straight path (way) they are seeking is for those who have received favour and the fact that they have not been shown the path means muslims are yet to receive divine favour.
(c) Why they have not received the answer to their prayer for the straight path is because they are looking for what is already available but refused to follow.


(2) Mathew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

This was spoken by Jesus himself. He said the Gospel shall be preached till the world will end. He never said Islam will come and replace the Gospel. Then, why would any Christian still see Islam as another way to our God?


(3) 1st Corinthians 3:11
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Yet Muhammad laid a completely different foundation despite the warning by God's Spirit. He could not have been sent by our God.


(4) Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!  9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

The Bible had warned not allow yourself to be confused by people, especially muslims to change your mind on the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. God knows an evil angel could come, pretending to be an angel of God and try to change the Gospel of Christ, hence the warning. The Bible says such an angel should be cursed. Years after, an angel they called Jubril came to do exactly what we have been warned about.

(5) In the finality,
Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."


There is no salvation in any other person other than Jesus. In fact. Muslims don't talk about salvation, they talk about religion. Only Jesus can provide salvation, not a religion.

haekymbahdx:
Allah SWT said:


"And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, Our hearts are wrapped. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 155)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Do you know Allah owned up that he is a deceiver?

The word of a deceiver is not trustworthy.


Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين

Transliteration: Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

Literal: And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers

The god of the muslims declared that he is a deceiver. How would anybody in his right senses believe the word of a deceiver?

haekymbahdx:
Not salty the nation of Israel was cursed because they didn't keep to the commandment of God. God chose Israel but they messed up... They are not longer superior they have been abandoned by God that's why they are Jealous of Islam.

No reasonable person can be jealous of Islam. What is the religion good for?

Is it the terrorism that is giving people nightmares everywhere in the world? A religion of pieces called a religion of peace.

Is it wildness of muslims, who are not tolerant a bit?

Is it the untrustworthiness, the al-taqqiyah allah enjoined?

I don't know what is in Islam that people can be jealous of.

BlackfireX:
The bible is corrupted? That means the Qur'an is the original Bible?

tell me you are not into comedy

Don't mind the muslims.

What is corrupted in it?

If it was corrupted, why did allah ask Muhammad to consult it?

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers.( S. 10:94-95 Pickthall).

Don't mind Allah, he is never stable. He would say something today and change it tomorrow. Little wonder he said he could change the revelation he gave to Muhammad. Sometime, he said he made Muhammad to forget some revelations he already revealed. He was just manipulating Muhammad's brain. That is not the character of the true God.

Muslims need deliverance to know who Allah is truly is.

MaxInDHouse:
That's the foundation of Islam, just based on the culture of the Arabs, it has nothing to do with the God of Abraham!

Yes

MaxInDHouse:
The true God had nothing to do with language o!

Abraham spoke Hebrew so all his children spoke that language "Hebrew" but after the Israelites returned from captivity in Babylon they began writing God's word in "Aramaic" as most returnees understood Aramaic much better than the Hebrew language, but after Jesus' time his followers penned down their own messages in Greek because that's the most widely spoken language of their time.

So the Bible was originally written in three languages Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek
From inception God never forced people to speak one particular language, once you're ready to obey him whatever language you use in your worship of him is not important!

Well spoken bro.

Muslims are slaves of Arabs. Watch them speak, especially their Alfas, they would first speak so long in Arabic to a Yoruba person or anybody , who doesn't understand Arabic before they would start interpreting it to their audience. When they know they still have to interpret, why speak Arabic in the first place?

To muslims, it is like if they don't speak Arabic, their god will not understand. What a god.

Yahweh understands any language and you don't have to be an Israeli to worship Him. You can worship Him in your own language. Allah is an idol in the land of Arab, who doesn't understand any other language.

Had We sent this as a Qur'an
(in the language) other than
Arabic, they would have said:
"Why are not its verses
explained in detail? What! (a
Book) not in Arabic and (a
Messenger an Arab?" (Qur'an 41:44).

Allah said if the Quran had been revealed in a language other than Arabic, the Arabs would have queried it.

Why did Non-Arabs accept the Quran while the Arabs would not have accepted it if it were revealed in their own language?

It again means Muhammad would not have been accepted by the Arabs if he was not an Arabian.

Are Arabs muslims superior to Non-Arabs muslims?

sonmvayina:
That is what his name means..my wife's name was Elena Nwachukwu before I married her..Nwachukwu means child of God

So, to you Hezekiah means Almighty God, abi?

Very intelligent of you.

sonmvayina:
The child has already been born when Isaiah was writing.. Hope you understand tenses in English..
He was referring to Hezekiah, he was already about 6 years old when Isaiah was prophesying..

"for unto us a child is born...."

Was Hezekiah referred to as Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace?

sagenaija:
Was there any one called the name Mohamed in Islam?
A Tunisian Islamic scholar's research reveals that the real name of Islam's prophet is Qutham or Qatham and not the title he is called by today.

See:
Muhammad real name Qathem, not Muhammad or Ahmad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8au1Py1I3g

Very revealing !!!

advocatejare:
Allah knows nothing than fighting and killing and that's what he commands you his followers to be doing:
"And fight in the cause of Allah and know that Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 244)

"O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 123)

"Indeed, Allah loves those who fight in His cause in a row as though they are a [single] structure joined firmly."
(QS. As-Saff 61: Verse 4)
Those who believe, fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Satan. So fight you against the friends of Satan. Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Satan.
- Quran 4:76

Fight those who believe not in Allah or the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission and are subdued.
-Quran 9:29

Allah is a killer:

"And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 191)

"You will find others who wish to obtain security from you and [to] obtain security from their people. Every time they are returned to [the influence of] disbelief, they fall back into it. So if they do not withdraw from you or offer you peace or restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you overtake them. And those - We have made for you against them a clear authorization."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 91)

Allah said he was a killer:
"And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 17)


"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 5)

Allah even shared in the spoils of war and gather it for himself.


"They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the bounties [of war]. Say, The bounties is for Allah and the Messenger. So fear Allah and amend that which is between you and obey Allah and His Messenger, if you should be believers."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 1)


And Allah is not OK with one-tenth, Allah the thief and the killer demands 1/5th

"And know that anything you obtain of war booty - then indeed, for Allah is one fifth of it and for the Messenger and for [his] near relatives and the orphans, the needy, and the [stranded] traveler, if you have believed in Allah and in that which We sent down to Our Servant on the day of criterion - the day when the two armies met. And Allah, over all things, is competent."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 41)

Muhammad was adding allah's share to his own. How was Allah getting his share of the war booties? Does allah eat goats, rams and sheep or does he spend money stolen from war? Was Muhammad sending Allah's share to his spiritual abode?


A lot of things Muhammad did using allah as a cover-up. For example, when he wanted to snatch his adopted son's wife, the wife of Saeed, he said allah instructed him to do so.(Quran 33), when the truth was that he saw Synab (Saeed's wife) half-naked and was drawn to her beauty.

Somebody said allah was Muhammad's messenger and not the other way round. He was just riding allah anyhow. He said allah placed a limit of 4 wives for a Muslim, but he had 11 wives, excluding numerous concubines. He said allah has authorised muslims to marry their adopted sons' wives (Quran 33) but he quickly cancelled child adoption to cover his shame. It means Muhammad could change Allah's decision. What a god. In fact, there was no power allah could exercise, which Muhammad could not do the same. Everything is allah and his Messenger.

Yahweh would never ever accept his Prophet to ride him, talkless of changing his decision. It doesn't require a deep thought to discover that allah is not the true God.



Na wa for muslims o !!!

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sonmvayina:
The christian religion is just rebranded paganism..the romans added it at the end of the jewish scriptures to deceieve people like you..

There is no where in the old testament where is says God had a son or created the universe through anybody..read isaiah 42 to 45

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.



John 1:1‭-‬10
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

sagenaija:
Unrestrained and uncalled for laughter is clearly a sign of a problem in a person's head.

When a matter of life and death is reduced by a man to a comical issue you can be sure that such a man has some loose screws in his head.

The average Moslem knows very little about his religion. What he does then is to run with his IDEA of what he thinks the religion is or the lies his Islamic teachers feed him with. Point out a CLEAR issue in their books and he will still not accept it as long as it goes against what he brainwashed himself with.

A clear case in point: The Koran CLEARLY portrays Jesus in a better light than Mohamed. But the average Moslem is blinded to it. Mohamed, to them, is still the best example to be followed even with all his frailties and weaknesses.

Only twisted brains who find laughter in everything can cope with a religion of contradictions where so called scholars agree on no single thing and the model example is one who had to be told that he was being made a prophet by another person and not even the 'angel' he claimed appeared to him.

Hmmm !!!

I love your statements, God bless you real good.

Most times, I open threads on Nairaland on islamic issues knowing fully well that fanatical muslims will never reason, even if I quote the Quran. I do it to open the eyes of Christians who have no knowledge of islam, and can easily be deceived by muslims.

So many Christians are ignorant of what islam entails, to the extent that they give out their daughters in marriage to them. A Christian woman that falls into their den is lost forever, except by God's special grace.

In Matthew 24:14, Jesus said " And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations and then the end shall come.

Meaning that it is only the Gospel Jesus expected to be preached till the end of the world. He has no hand in islam.

Again, the book of 1 Corinthians 3:11 says there is no other foundation that can be laid other than that has been laid, which is Christ Jesus.

All the above Biblical statements were made not in contestation with Muhammad because he was not yet born. But God knew Satan would raise islam to deceive mankind.

Who sent Muhammad to lay islamic foundation? If you know the passion with which muslims hate the Christians, you will know that allah is not the true God.

DeusXmachina:
Why do you use something from what you consider a false religion to validate your own?

View it this way.
You don't use the testimony of a lier as evidence to prove your case.

Because that is what you believe in. If we use Biblical verses alone, what will be your reaction? Now that quranic verses are used, don't you believe them? If you believe them, how do you feel?

Why do you believe a part and reject a part of the quran?

sonmvayina:
I just know it is a pagan concept.The creator is one,hence it is called a universe..

Islam is paganism as confirmed by the quran.

Quran 2:158 Pickthal
Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (AS THE PAGAN CUSTOM IS). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware.

Before the advent of islam, As-Safa and Al-Marwah was the practice of pagans, which also continues in islam. Why would the true God accept the practice of pagans?


https://quran.al-islam.org/