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Haroun13:
Well, Jibrail is not God. Besides, if the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) had chosen to live for more years, when he was asked to choose between this life and the next, he would be healed, but he chose heaven.


OK.

If Gabriel is not Allah and therefore his word or promise should not be taken seriously, it means the quran he brought is not credible.

Was Gabrie not aware as an angel that Muhammad chose heaven before praying for his healing and still promised Allah would heal him? Where did he say he chose heaven?

Haroun13:
I do not want any unnecessary arguments, or unnecessary prolongation of discussions, so, let's leave it at that.

But here is my point, if the method of reasoning of the OP is used, it shows that Yahweh failed in his promise, because there was definitely a promise there, except that it was not fulfilled. Coming to the verse of the Qur'an quoted by the OP, any intellectual person would see that there is no promise there.

Salaam.

But when Muhammad was dying, Gabriel prayed for him and promised allaah would heal him, which was not fulfilled. Again, the quran you call a miracle was recited on him but no miracle happened, he died eventually.

NinjaX

God turned a woman fleeing her town to a pillar of salt, only because her curiosity got the better of her, but this is someone who would likely not return to her home again, and so only turned back based on the attachment she had to the home God pronounced judgement upon.

The woman was disobedient. God warned them not to look back but she didn't heed the warning. Who is to blame?

Elisha, a prophet in the bible, murdered little kids. What was their offence? They poked fun at him. God was fully aware of the situation but stood back and watched the show with glee. Guess were the kids are going to? Hell. Yet this same God made Balaam to bless israel against Balak's wishes that they be cursed.

The little children were untrained, and uncultured. Elisha had just missed his master, Elijah and he was in sorrow. Those children were aware of his mood and were mocking him. Elisha was provoked to curse them and were killed. But Muhammad was killing people unprovoked but you don't see anything wrong with that.

God murdered a man right on the spot just because he stopped God's precious box from falling. Yahweh is too emotional for his own good. He should consult a psychologist.

Unlike allaah who called for muslims to help him, the Bible God doesn't need human help. It would have been on record that a man helped God from falling.

NinjaX

God turned a woman fleeing her town to a pillar of salt, only because her curiosity got the better of her, but this is someone who would likely not return to her home again, and so only turned back based on the attachment she had to the home God pronounced judgement upon.

The woman was disobedient. God warned them not to look back but she didn't heed the warning. Who is to blame?

Elisha, a prophet in the bible, murdered little kids. What was their offence? They poked fun at him. God was fully aware of the situation but stood back and watched the show with glee. Guess were the kids are going to? Hell. Yet this same God made Balaam to bless israel against Balak's wishes that they be cursed.

The little children were untrained, and uncultured. Elisha had just missed his master, Elijah and he was in sorrow. Those children were aware of his mood and were mocking him. Elish was provoked to curse them. But Muhammad was killing people unprovoked but you don't see anything wrong with that.

God murdered a man right on the spot just because he stopped God's precious box from falling. Yahweh is too emotional for his own good. He should consult a psychologist.

Unlike allaah who called for muslims to help him, the God of doesn't need human help.

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DoctorAlien:
NinjaX,

please browse google. All those things you listed there have been sufficiently answered.

I'm sorry if my comments about islam pained you, even though it was the truth.

Good.

jnrbayano:
I am

What stops you being a muslim since you love their ways.

Jesus said "I know my sheep and my sheep know me. The voice of a stranger they will not follow.

shadeyinka:
Some of their big Immams say that everything forbidden here on earth is allowed in paradise! SMH

They are saying trash.

So their heaven is expected to be more immoral than this world.

DoctorAlien:
The fact that women for sex and alcohol(and maybe hard drugs) is the reward in the paradise of muslims goes to show how lascivious the person who wrote the koran is. It also shows how the writer regards women.

That kind of paradise resembles something a sex-starved, immoral priest/monk would think up.

Succinct !!!

uvalued:
are they truly happy... i see them cowering under islamphobia...but what say you

You mean they are not happy at home and
abroad?

Why are they the only ones unhappy within and without?

Jibril659:
What you need is a life

Heheen !!!

My Muslims Brothers & Sisters are not happy. I actually feel very sad for this as a human being.

They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
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Lets Find The reason Why..
So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in INDIA

They're happy in almost every country that is not
Islamic! And who do they blame?
Not Islam..
Not their leadership..
Not themselves..

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy.
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Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Bahai's = No Problem
Bahai's living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living withvb Bahai's = No Problem
Bahai's living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

Now..

Muslims living with Hindus = Problemg
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Bahai's = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

Haroun13:
Ordinarily, I would ignore this, but for the sake of those who seek truth, I'll answer you.
First, I want to ask you, "do you know what a promise is?" maybe not, because from what you quoted, I don't see any promise of anything.



Let's assume you are right. So, let's apply your method of reasoning.
Jesus (peace be upon him) prayed to be saved from crucifixion.
Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. (John 26: 36)
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me. (John 26: 39)
…. He went away again, and prayed the second time and prayed, saying ……and prayed the third time, saying the same words. (John 26:42-44)

God answered his prayers
And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I think thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always. (John 11:41-42)

God even sent an Angel to strengthen him
And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. (Luke 22: 43-44)

But after all these, what was the result? According to you, he died a shameful death, he died a cursed man.
Here goes; Isn't the death of Jesus (peace be upon him) contradictory to Yahweh's promise to Jesus (peace be upon him) who prayed fervently to be saved from crucifixion, yet, died of crucifixion??Can someone help a brother to explain this please. Thank you in advance.

Wow! Your method of reasoning is really astonishing!

Salaam.

Your observation is carnally right but spiritually wrong. Jesus knew he would die, and in fact, that is what he came to do.

If you are interested in the truth surrounding the death of Jesus read it here:

http://www.100prophecies.org/page4.htm

lepasharon:
Another Christian cry baby thread

Is the thread not the truth?

Why do you people love injustice?

Agimor:
Because Christians are tolerant. Try this with the religion of pieces.

Religion of peace for where? Don't mind them.

See their religion of peace:

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

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jnrbayano:
I agree with you even as a Christian

Christian? Lie

Altaqqiyah

When I say muslims are satanists, many don't want to believe. It is only satanists that can be as wicked as muslims. They have no respect for human life.

The truth is; It was satan who pretended as the God of the Bible, formulated a bundle of lies and called it islam. It is satan who acted the roles of allaah, gabriel and shatan in the quran. Quran mentioned Jesus and gave him a wrong identity. He didn't mention Jesus disciples by name, not even the miracles God did through them. The quran doesn't contain lies, it is wholly lies.

Jibril659:
okay whatever

You had better repented before it is too late. Jesus loves you.

Jibril659:
See theory!

You are not current friend.

plappville:

Matthew 7:13 ►
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it


Exactly, wide way leads to condemnation. And many follow this way. That's Islam. Narrow way leads to eternary life few follow this way = Christ. Are we suprised when Jésus said this to his Disciples? Of course not.

Luke 12:32 ►
"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.



The glaring truth is that. Islam is regressing. See the Middle East Crisis for proof

Yes, islam must be retrogressing. God hates islam but loves repented muslisms. Islam is anti-God and Antichrist.

A war is coming that will consume more than 50% of the muslim world and it is not going to be long. The UN on the 24th December, 2016 had passed a Resolution for Israel to handover the land in dispute to the muslim Palestinians. Israel will not obey the Resolution and the result will be world war as predicted by the Bible. God is at work, he purposely made Donald Trump to win the US presidential election against Obama and Hillary Clinton. Obama is an enemy to Israel being a muslim.

Donald Trump had declared his intention to fight the muslims in support of Israel and as God would have it, Putin, the Russian President is already fraternizing with Donald Trump and in fact, they are good friends now.For this, Obama has threatened to sue Trump for treason.The way is clear for world war against muslims nations.

randomperson:
How many Islamic clerics make new year prophecies?? How many Imams claim they perform miracles?? How many imams proclaim curses on people who dare criticize them??... Christianity gets its bad rap from the actions of its members and leaders...
Fix your religion and stop blaming others...

Only Muhammad claimed he could hear and talk to allaah, how then can any islmaic clerics prophesy? Receiving message from who? How could any imman do miracles when Muhammad and allahh did none in islam? Remember, when people came to Muhammad for healing, he would only recommend carmel urine or dates or zamzam water for them.

When his killer squad you call jihadits ate poison, neither Muhammad nor allaah could do anything about it. They were dying and they died in their very before. When Muhammad himself was dying, Gabriel prayed for him and promised allaah would heal him but that didnt come true, he died eventually. If muslims god and their prophet couldn't show any spiritual power other than to behead people, how can their followers do miracles or prophesy.

Therefore, don't place allaah side by side with the God of the Christians, they are far apart.

Jibril659:
your post makes no sense.

The usual muslims altaqqiyah

Jibril659:
Yes, that and more, Islam is still the world's fastest growing religion.

It doesn't change anything.

The Devil has more followers in this world.

In the time of Noah, how many people obeyed God? Very few.

In Sodom and Gomorrah, how many were on God's side? Very few.

It should now be clear to you that the world loves darkness rather than light.

Jibril659:
your profile says plenty about you. Why are you so obsessed with Islam?

Not she alone, the whole world is obsessed with islam. Where are people not afraid of the religion? Right now, millions of people cannot sleep in their homes, many have met their untimely death for the devilish religion.

Back to the thread, why is allahh unable to keep his word? He promised muslims of safe return from hajj but often times, many don't return. Is he the God you think he is?

Again, why would God recommend pilgrimage to Mecca for muslims and he didn't do the same for the Jews and Christians that existed before islam?

If it is true that Abraham built Kaaba (though untrue), why did other members of his family not visit there, I mean Sarah, I saac and Jacob and other children of Abraham? Why is islam about Haggai and Ishmael alone? That shows satan just formulated lies and call it islam. It was Satan that acted the roles of Allah, Gabriel and Shartan in islam. This is the pure truth.

By now I'm sure you are realizing that islam is worth being obsessed with because of the wickedness many lies found in the religion.

randomperson:
Christians and their insecurities.... Season 4

How does that look like insecurity to you?

You are seeing the Bible prophecy of the end time coming true and all you could deduce is insecurity of Christians? May God grant you understanding.

Satan is fighting his last battle and it is pity that many are turning atheists saying there is no God, no heaven, no hell at a time everything is pointing to the fact the end is near.

I don't Think Christians Around the World understands the Seriousness of the Resolution that the UN Passed against Israel on Friday the 24th of Dec 2016. Forcing Israel Back to their 1967 Borders. This Bible Prophecy said will Happen. The Obama Administration did not use their Veto Right to Protect Israel as in the Past Years. USA did not vote on Bill 181 on Friday and the UN Sign the Bill into affect! Meaning Israel was Placed on Notice to vacate the Westbank, Jerusalem and the Golan Heights , for it is now Unlawfully occupied by Jerusalem. This Means The Birth City of Bethlehem , The Grave of Jesus and Golgotha Hill has been Given to Muslim Palestine.

This Israel already indicated will not be Done! They said in no uncertain terms, This will Lead to War. The UN against Israel !

Although this was a Last attempt by Obama to Stab Israel in the Back . President Elect Donald Trump tweeted that AFTER the 20th of Jan 2017 the World will see a other UN , There is nothing that The New President of USA can do against The Resolution Passed by the UN Already!

Bible Prophecy States , That USA will Join Israel in 2017 as the USA will withdraw themselves from NATO and Possibility the UN. Bible Prophecy Daniel 7 . Eagle Wings detaching from Lion and in Revelations 12 Joining The Women with the 12 Stars = Israel.

Bible Prophecy states that Gog (Russia) and Magog (Iran) will get UN Orders to enforce Israel from the Land , Westbank, Jerusalem and Golan Heights. Daniel 11 and Ezekiel 38 and 39.

God will Fight this War on behalf of Israel . this is called the Gog and Magog Battle of the 6th Trumpet War were 1/3 of the World Population will DIE. Revelations 9. Ezek 38v 22 , Job 38v22 and Ex 9

Lets look at the Timeline of Events from Now to the Battle of Armageddon

Next the Battle of Armageddon. Ending World War 3 , The 6th Trumpet War.
After the War The New World Order will Arrange Peace in the Form of the Jewish Messiah ( The Antichrist)
Israel will Hand the Westbank to Palestine for the Approval of Building the 3rd Jewish Temple in Temple Mount next to the Dome of the Rock . At the Signing of this Agreement called the 7 year Peace agreement , The World will be at Peace for 3 and half years, This is when the Last Great Christian Revival will take Place Until The Jewish Messiah stops Sacrifices in the Newly Build Temple and Implement the Mark of the Beast , the 666. Then the Great Tribulation Starts and then The Wrath of God and then at the End of the 7 Years the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ and the Rapture. just before the 7th Trumpet war , The Battle of Armageddon.

Friends I Hope your Faith is Strong, Your Clothes washed in the Blood and Your Lamps filled with Oil. For Bible Prophecy is Coming together in front of our Eyes.

annunaki2:
Hope you enjoy banging your head on the floor five times a day to please an Arabic idol as well.

Singing and dancing is a mark of joy. The Bible says rejoice forever more.

Muslims don't appreciate the value of joy. Nowhere did allaah command or enjoin them to be joyful. I haven't seen any islamic Alfa looking happy. They look terrible and wicked with their unkept beard, full of words of curses and abuses, even when they are preaching. The more they read the quran, the more terrible they become. They don't have joy and so they can't drum and dance.

alBHAGDADI:
Most of them know all this but are living in denial or afraid to leave the satanic religion for fear of being killed as commanded by the Quran and hadith which says to kill anyone that leaves Islam.

I pray they be librated in Jesus name.

It is unreasonable for anyone to prefer his religion to his soul. Since what the muslims are reading is undeniable truth, nothing should stop them from accepting Christ.

If Muhammad himself, having seen the reality now has the chance to send a message home (like the rich man Jesus talked about), I'm sure he would have warned the muslims but unfortunately, he has no such opportunity.. All the men of God who have seen the vision of heaven saw Muhammad languishing in hellfire. This is no surprise as (Quran 3:185) confirms it that all muslims will go to hellfire before some will be removed to aljannah. The truth is: nobody goes to hell and comes out of it. What makes someone qualified for hell will make him remain there forever as there is no room for repentance after death.

Besides, even according to islamic belief, some people like Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc are already in heaven, and not waiting in hellfire, why should Muhammad and muslims go to hell first waiting for the Day of Resurrection to be removed? Satan is telling them to their face that muslims are going to hellfire, yet they can't discern neither can they understand. What a pity.

enilove:
We need to pray for them. Facing the kaaba during their prayer sessions is a satanic covenant which is not easy to break.

I was a muslim , so I know it is by divine intervention that can set anyone free from that trap of hell, which satan started with muhammed.

It is very good to inform them of the everlasting danger, if they die as muslims, but their is need to pray for them as well.

My prayer for any muslim reading the message is that "the veil of darkness covering your spiritual eyes be destroyed, in Jesus name.

I thank God on your behalf. May God uphold you to the end. With prayers, I believe the Lord who liberated you from islamic bondage will also do the same for muslims reading this thread . So shall it be in Jesus name.

alBHAGDADI:
rilwayne001 friendchoice aminusanti Empiree udatso are all afraid of this truthful thread.

What a shame.

They are tired of defending Islam. There is a limit anyone can continue defending falsehood. Islam is not full of falsehood, it is totally falsehood.

What muslims say in defence of Muhammad's genocide is that he was fighting in self defence, now that they have been asked " who attacked Muslims in Egypt and other countries they took over by force, they are now speechless.

It is a good development that they have nothing more to say. Muslims who are in islam due to ignorance are already discovering islam is Satan's religion. We have seen some of them confessing it.

Satan played the roles of Allah, Gabriel and Satan in the Quran. Muhammad was deceived to deceive others. What a pity.

Satan designed the black stone in Kaaba like a woman's private part for muslims to be touching and kissing. What a level of immorality. Could the true God do that immoral thing?

Satan chose moon as islamic symbol. This was deliberate knowing fully well that idol worshippers from different ancient countries were also having moon as their god's symbol. This again shows islam is from Satan as God could not choose the symbol of idolaters for himself.

For allaah designing black stone like a woman's private part, check here:

https://www.nairaland.com/3512953/designed-black-stone-structure

For allaah choosing moon symbol of the idolaters as his own symbol too,, check here:

https://www.nairaland.com/3543135/chose-moon-islamic-symbol

Fash20:
There are violent verses in the bible I think that should make Christianity and Judaism a satanist religion too or what do you think?

Nowhere does the Bible call for war against unbelievers to establish Judaism. The wars in the Bible are not ordained or recommended for anybody to continue for converting people by force. If it is ordained like the quran does, you would have seen the Jews or Christians going about killing like muslims. Besides, Jesus had stopped any kind of war, it is only Satan that could reintroduce it as God could not. It was Satan who disguised as God and introduced islam to suck blood.

Now tell us why Boko Haram, Isil, Hamas , Al-Shabab, Al-Quada etc are fighting and killing innocent souls. It is just to make blood available for Satan aka Allah to such.

plappville:
Thats why Moslims all over the world brag by saying "ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD" They know it is only by killing none Muslims and reproduction this can come to pass. By the way, How can they dominate when they also kill themselves each passing day in the middle East and some part of African countries?

God will distrol Islam. Alla.h is a moon god. He socks blood. We see that everyday on the news. Moslims are wild like Tiger and Lion.
I still wonder what sort of beings they are

Why is islam linked with so much violence if Truelly the founder Mohammed was that loving, noble as his army claim?

Islam is from Satan who pretended to be God. No doubt, muslims are satanists. Quran is the only "holy" book people read to murder. Violence cannot end in the world as long as just a copy of quran is still in circulation.

A posted a thread " Imagine A World Without Islam" where I stated that the only war the world face today is islamic terrorism and that much money is being committed to restore peace even in the face of harsh economic conditions. You can then imagine how peaceful and prosperous the world would have been without islam, yet the quran lied that Muhammad is a mercy to the world (Quran 21:107), The thread didn't stay for ten minutes before it was deleted as if the statement is false. Who does not know that instead of a mercy, islam is a curse to the world? Does allaah know the meaning of mercy?