₦airaland Forum

TinubuGoQuench:
YOU ARE JUST A CHEAP PAID AGENT!!!

TALKING RUBBISH

Very predictable

FreeStuffsNG:
You are still lying sir. I have made my point and numbers don't lie. Gbadamosi is a far popular name in Lagos East than a political neophyte Tokunbo Abiru. That you don't even know this confirm that you are an outsider.
If you repeat your Lekkilies 1000 times it won't become the truth. If you spend more time understanding where true power lies in Lagos, you won't be wasting your time on lies and assumptions.
Nobody died at Lekki let alone a massacre. The resounding victory APC made in that same Lekki Local Government less than 8 weeks after your Lekkilies is a loud affirmative action that in Lagos, we know our leaders and there's no room for IPOB terrorists, arsonists and vicious political state actors sir.

Seems you are the coordinator of BMC in Nairaland with they way you are sounding, it exposes you as mere sychophant and not someone with genuine concern who is in the struggle for the betterment of his people.

The action and inaction of key players in APC is killing the party and could spell doom for the party in the presidential election. I can't help you if you fail to see all these. Mine is a warning cry, you can go on with your songs of praise and sychophatic dance, it's your choice

FreeStuffsNG:
The bolded is lie from the pit of hell.

I can see that, in the 'epistle'(pun intended), you didn't read or conveniently ignored the Lagos East Senatorial election result right at the peak of the 'anger' of your so-called youths.
They will still lose again.

Below is the result of the December 4 ,2020 Senatorial election of Lagos East Senatorial election In that same Lekki Local Government area where the incident occurred and Pastor Adefarasin's church is located :

Ibeju -Lekki LGA
Electoral Officer: Dr Khalid Olajide Adekoya ( Unilag)

AA : 16
AAC: 17
ADC: 42
ADP: 65
APC: 16336
APM: 12
LP: 07
NNPP: 05
NRM: 07
PDP: 937
SDP: 11
YPP: 109

Lekki Incident: 20th October, 2021

Lagos East Senatorial election in Lekki: 5th Dec.,2021

Election result released : 6th December, 2021

Final result:

APC Candidate Tokunbo Abiru won the Lagos State East Senatorial district bye-election wey hold on Satuday, 5th December.

The Independent Electoral Commission, INEC declare APC's Abiru the winner with 89,204 votes while his closest opponent PDP candidate Babatunde Gbadamosi got 11,257 votes.

I know that most of you are serial losers who don't accept defeat with grace because of bitterness and bigotry in you, just remember again that

Calm down and be objective for once, APC had a free ride because APC has no strong opposition in that election.

I carefully choose my words because am not attached or blinded by any sentiment. I said the youth are angry about Lekki massacre and not really about End-sars, and how the state government handles it would go a long way in pacifying the youth. Yes, there are two classes of youth, the educated sychophants and dummy illiterate in one side and the rational youth on the other side, I tell you, the rank of the rational mind is swelling. Stop being a hypocrite, there would be a consequence in presidential election in Lagos State if the state government fail to manage developing circumstances emerging from revelations on the events of Lekki shooting. It is one crime that can't be covered without consequence

FreeStuffsNG:
In the first place, in this era of fake news and Lekkilies, I doubt the OP because nothing in the video proved any LAGH rep was there or that the coverage categorically took place at the experience but if it's true,i am not surprised.

The Experience is a platform owned by Pastor Adefarasin who most Nigerians remember as the MOG Apostle of Plan B, who gave direct order to those youths in that place to flee Nigeria. According to a 10 May,2021 report by the Guardian,, "The pastor disclosed that his wife (Pastor Ifeanyi) is currently out of Nigeria helping to create their own plan B" and others should follow suit.

Those who didn't flee Nigeria or are bidding their time before they flee too won't be allowed to frustrate the rest of us . They have been fed lies and lies because they believe APC is a Muslim party and bitter that their Pastor Adefarasin's preferred candidate, HE GEJ, lost against APC .
I recall that it was during his tenure as PFN President that Pastor Bakare blasted him and others for the hypocrisy in endorsing and campaigning for HE GEJ of PDP against one of their own, Pastor (Prof) Osibanjo of APC, http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/02/02/bakare-blasts-can-pfn-for-endorsing-jonathan/


He and the PFN under his leadership lost in that election in 2015 , God used the votes of Nigerians to reject them and their candidate HE GEJ and chose APC's PMB and Pastor Osibanjo . The rest is history but the bitterness has not waned, his church encourages their youths to deride and embarrass APC elected officials at the state and Federal level against what the bible teaches in Romans 13:1-2, they are indoctrinating their youths on false doctrine of Christianity.

That they don't even know that it was this same Governor who set up a panel, gave the members all the support and free rein is not surprising.

That they don't know that it wasn't the Governor that inserted falsehoods and fictitious names in the Lekkilies EndSars report did not shock me.

That they will expect the Governor to use taxpayers money to pay compensation to a Solomon Nathaniel who is alive and well and even faced the panel in flesh and blood yet declared dead, an individual who died way back in 2019 and declared that his ghost was a killed again in Lekki,a random Tola, Wisdom declared as deceased yet with no single family coming forward to declare their own Tola or Wisdom missing, among many other lies in respect to the Lekki incident tells you that they don't read and understand that it's impossible for the Governor to pay out compensation to non existent and fictitious names. It's criminal and ultra vires.

If the panel has perhaps not been compromised or sabotaged, they will not spend one year investigating an incident and still come up with falsehoods and fictitious names. That is why Nigerians demand that the panel be investigated and whoever lied on oath must be prosecuted.

Most of the youths there don't read and that's why they can't rise above hatred, bigotry and bitterness.

We will support our Governor defend Lagos and all our forebears built as legacy from their toils, sweat and blood.
We will defend Lagos against arsonists, terrorists and political and religious vicious state actors.

May God bless Lagos State and Nigeria forever more.

Here's how Saharareporters reported how Nigerians,including Bishop Oyedepo of Winners Assembly, responded to Pastor Adefarasin's order to youths in his church to exit Nigeria, an order he didn't give them during HE GEJ's tenure
http://saharareporters.com/2021/05/10/better-stay-defend-your-land%E2%80%94-nigerians-react-pastor-adefarasin%E2%80%99s-plan-b-advice-flee

How come you are able to come with this long Epistles? Look you better admit the truth and stop all this sychophancy which is not helping APC in South.

The main issue is that many youth are still angry about Lekki experience and not really about end sars. This will definitely affect APC chances in future election, you can rant about bye election won in Lagos by APC, but that's not enough justification to think the people would not punish SW APC

omenkaLives:
Indeed, which is the reason why I insist he jettisons his push for the office of the president and throw his weight behind Osinbajo.

Osinbajo remains my preferred candidate for the office of the president.

If he does that, he would be the greatest and modest politician in Africa, and he would be placed at par with Awolowo by Yoruba people. Tinubu has sacrificed so much

joefelin2345:
The question is ...why did Obj seized Lagos State Allocation (which was later released during Gov Fashola's regime any way )? Tinubu if I could remember unilaterally created additional Local Govts Area without regards to the Nigerian Constitution. Other Gov even in PDP did same and they were asked to reverse their decision bc it was against the Nations Constitution. But Tinubu refused entirely. Lagos State later went to Court to challenge Obj & the matter was resolved politically to LCDA. Incidentally, the current VP was the Attorney General in Lagos State then. Can any State Gov do the same today under PMB & PYB draconian rule? Be the best judge.

This is a very big question you've put forward here. It is unfortunate that Tinubu form alliance with retrogressive cabal from the north, and I think the Caliphate would tolerate corrupted person, but I don't see how they would trust Tinubu with his independent mind and his core believe in federalism, the current happening and the purported fuel increment in 2022 seems to be the last joker that would take APC out of the mind of rational Nigerians, this again looks so deliberate in order to deny Nigeria opportunity to restructure or practice true federalism.

Rexwalters1:
Restructuring a perfect excuse for a Failure, What is there to restructure? Charity they say begins @ home, why don’t you & the people from your state show us how it is done? Or who are you waiting for, before you start building the power plants, rail tracks, bridges, industries?

You claimed to know everything, from unitary system to federal system, state and regional, but when it comes to restructuring, you vein ignorance, suddenly you became the student that needs to be lectured.

What are you afraid of, restructuring will benefit every region including the north

Tolexander:
Another traffic generating news

This is not a traffic generating news o. It is the plain truth if you know what is going on.

The sidelining started even before the inauguration of 8th Assembly that produced Saraki, it still remain a mystery how Tinubu was able to overcome all the attacks by supporting Buhari in 2019. It is very unclear what he is up to.

Jakumo:
Only a brain-dead iimbecile would write in support of this murder of an innocent man accused of unverifiable magic.

If you are indeed convinced that a human being can be conjured into a yam tuber magically, then pathetic ignoramuses like you are a major reason why Africa is likely to remain backward for at least another two generations. Sincerely speaking sir, you ought to consider suicide because you truly have nothing to offer modern society.

Why you come disgrace that Osuprince like that, the guy that his only wish in life is to visit Lagos, he even fantasized calling himself Lagosprince

You won't see useless and bigoted youth on topic like this. Brainless and idiotic people that knows nothing beyond ego massaging, chestbeating, unnecessary comparison and I-better-pass-my- neighbour conversation

I don't understand why SW and SE are always behaving as non identical twins when it comes to politics, whereas they get along well in other areas. The divide and rule spell cast on the two region is done by combined Dibia of African witches, I never seen a juju as potent as this before

Let proponent of this evil policy come with their usual irrational comments

plaetton:
I wish there was a better word to describe this post other than jaundiced, half-baked .

Ending subsidy without tackling the issues that make subsidy possible would be daft, but not surprising for this type of government that we have been cursed with.

Nigeria pays billions of dollars/Naira for fuel subsidy for one simple reason:
As the 6th largest producer of crude in the world and one of the lowest cost producers, we do not refine our low-cost crude for domestic consumption. That is one of the greatest mysteries and tragedy of the modern century.

After 6 good years in Office, The greatest achievement for Buhari , despite his overwhelming ineptitude and failures in every aspect of governance , WOULD HAVE BEEN to get our 3 Refineries up to capacity to supply the domestic petroleum needs.

Subsidy exists because Nigeria/NNPC has to pay importers international price( USD) for refined petroleum products, and then sells it at a cheaper price to domestic consumers. So the higher the international price of oil , the more the FG pays in subsidy. Also, the weaker the Naira against the USD, the more the FG pays in subsidy.

The only solution would be for Nigeria's refineries to produce enough refined petroleum to meet domestic needs. Then as a low cost producer and refiner of petroleum products, NNPC would be able sell refined petroleum at COST to Nigerians, thereby eliminating the need for any kind of subsidy.

Another important, but very much overlooked issue is the issue of power supply. As a result of poor power supply, Nigerians Burn Billions and Billions of litres of SUBSIDIZED FUEL to power their generators everyday.
Just try to do a mental calculation of how many generators there are in Nigeria and how many hours each one burns , and how many litres of fuel burned each day, and then multiply that by the amount of subsidy per litre of fuel.
You would then realize that Nigeria is perhaps the only Nation in the entire universe that purposefully burn Billions of Naira everyday, and then runs to China the next day to borrow more.

Nigeria is Truly a Dystopian Paradise.

Only the government in power has the power to get our refineries fully functional, If ONLY THEY HAD THE WILL TO SO.

Unfortunately, Buhari has ZERO will to do any hard work for Nigeria.
He has never had, even during his first Missionless journey in governance in 1983.

We tend to forget that despite all his pretenses, Buhari is and has always been part and parcel of the Nigerian parasitic Oligarchy.
As such , he would never do anything meaningful to dislodge his parasitic base from their feeding tubes.

That's very correct

AlexBells:
The thing about you guys is always asking for record on novel and personal ideas, I'm not just a writer, I'm a young politician, I'm telling you my view on the issue, I did not tell you that it is a research work,

How would I go to research on why I support a particular policy, I support it, what I can do for others is tell them why I support it and try to let them see reasons, I don't remember saying that the earth is flat, I only stated my reasons for preferring that subsidy is removed and what I would do while at it should I be in position.

I'm only lucky to double as a writer and a politician and I would use my writing to advance my politics, social science is different from pure science, there is no proof that God exist but people believes it, you can't tell me to give you proof when I try to drill down an ideology down the people

Sometimes people could be impacted to even jettison established facts, human mind does not obey the laws of science verbatim, I can convince you that the hand you are using to hold your phone right now had been used by another person before you, it would create a confusion if you fell for it a little and on the process of looking at your hands, coincidences may make you think I could be right.

Nothing really exist, human mind is flexible, thoughts and opinion are fluid, my whole motives and training is understand what people think and alter it for the better results, not everybody would be penetrated but at least many can be and while at it, you can inspire different thinking and emotions all making a huge difference.

We are learning and I can see, you really desire to increase your skills,, we all need to grow in our areas of deficiencies, do have a wonderful day

AlexBells:
Please stop trolling all your arguments had been of stone age yet you think coming to tell on me would help you, why can't you understand that fools grow old and when did knowledge become about age, I had grown a lot in the past years, yes, I stated that mass Aquaphobia is real in AlaIgbo,

I argue for solution and aims not really about wining, because I know that Aquaphobia is real, you are just being naive and resorting to cheap trash taking, please your baseless arguments had been tackled and even a child in kindergarten knows how empty those your arguments are,

As for the mass Aquaphobia stuff, I know it is real so stay your stupid lane and stop trying to stear up sentimentality, as you can see, once I'm convinced, I stand by it until I'm countered with facts, as much as I'm concerned, I had bared my mind on subsidy, and if I'm in position it would instantly scrapped, I don't chase the crowd, I chase the truth.

I never knew you could add anger to your malady, the truth is that you don't become a good writer by just writing trash, you have to analyse your view point with documents and research work of others, fuel subsidy is one of such where you can shine in your writing if you really do your homework well
How can you come up with points with zero records of viewpoints of experts, publications and government data on subject as controversial as fuel subsidy?

Stop being lazy and read more on subject you want to analyse before coming to the public so you won't embarass yourself

jumper524:
Even till this day some people have refused to be reasonable.well even Jonathan is dead.
See proof.

You are wicked, look at how you pursue the guy from the thread he created to shine

AlexBells:
In 2012 I was 17, these issues did not bother me much then,

No wonder you are talking like a toddler, creating useless topics with no meaning, that how you created a topic stating Igbo has phobia for water, I like the way your brothers trashed that derogatory assertion.

You wanted to be controversial, but lacks basic knowledge to project yourself.

You can argue in favour of fuel removal without embarrassing yourself, when you do it intelligently, but not with all these craps you put forward

AlexBells:
Subsidy removal would increase Okada Business lol, you mean people will buy a litre #500 and you still think Okada would be lucrative, subsidy removal will increase farmers instead,

You have no logic sef, there would be less cars and motorcycles on the road leading to less accidents, I don't know where you are bringing your more handicapped from

Nigeria does not produce petrol we produce crude oil, crude oil is different from petrol it is same thing like saying the fact Nigeria produce uranium means that Nigeria produce nuclear energy NOTE: raw material is different from finished goods.

Fuel is essential everywhere but the last time I checked fuel is not oxygen, people can reduce consumption and not die, that reduction can imply real huge difference.

Nigeria is not a producer of petrol but a producer of crude, they are two different things.

NNPC is sole importer becuase of subsidy, which big corrupt people paid the subsidy, remove subsidy and NNPC would allow private importers more volume

I didn't bother to read your craps in full because I notice that your mental capacity is way too shallow and not worthy of any engagement.

Because there's increase in pump price people would stop using motorbike and start farm work, what sort of insane thought is that?

Is farming an product a substitute for fuel.?

Let me break it down for you, fuel is a consumable energy product that has few alternative in electricity. Since Nigeria has failed to develop it's electricity sector as an alternative to fossil fuel energy, the consumer will simply switch to other transportation means that requires lesser amount of petrol such as motorbike. In simple terms ,bpeople would abandon their motor and prefer to entire Okada to works since 80% of Nigerian roads are being ply by Okada.

The other option is to use trains that can convey large population of people but train fare in Nigeria is as expensive as using your own car and it can't ply hinterland so it's use is useless. Transit buses which could have been the option is not developed by the same government, so people can not abandon fuel engine as transportation mode but can switch to cheap one which is Okada, but the consequences of using that means is expensive to the nation and its people.

I can no longer help you if you can't comprehend my explanation, but you type are so myopic that you don't see beyond your egocentric proclivity and always want to distort the public with such irrational mindset.

Seriously, I don't do banter online but your line of just appeared to be a thought of educated person with malfunction brain. Please, don't take this as abuse but as a plain truth of a brother who want to help a lost one.

The other option is to increase your reading culture so you can have a broad knowledge on subjects that is not your core interest, also, do some research with proven article when writing articles of public importance that would ignite discussion from wide range of people.

You can then come back with another moniker and begin to build your career. But for the main time, the Allex we know on Nairaland is a comedian with a narrow mind and juvenile thought that's is most time be mistaken for mental imbalance

helinues:
Take note of that

Let's be reasonable here, no president, individual or change in government can undone what has been done , it is structural and has nothing to do with, Buhari, Jonathan or any other previous or future president.

Now how will the best next president deal with taken over of our assets in coming years when the loan mature and we could not pay back?

How will the government deal with and still grow the economy when the source of its revenue will continue to dwindle?

These things are not something we should even be arguing about because it is clear that Nigeria future under the present system is bleak and full orgy and fearful expectations, your leaders know this, that's why they are taking as much as possible from the cover, thinking that would save them, but will that actually save them,?they too don't think so, it is purely poor mentality

helinues:
Even though government can only do their best in protecting lives and properties, no where is safe in the world, there are some countries who do not have internal conflicts but still being killed by natural disasters.

Not justifying the incompetency of the current government in tackling the root of the problem, we could only hope to have new president in 2023 with political will to solve the problem.

The solution is simple, restructure the army and air force. That's where the Lacunas are. So many saboteurs in and out of service

You opinion doesn't represent that of well meaning Nigeria, seem you are benefitting from the basterdised system, but what about your family, your community and your people, how well have they fared in the unworkable project called Nigeria.

Every Nigerians including those you are trying to defend know that Nigeria can't work with the present system. I'm telling you this because am very dip in it, there's no point trying to defend that to me.

The only reason holding the sick country is few people who are befitting but afraid the would lose out in a level playing ground. But how long will they continue to patch it and accommodate this collateral damage before it gets to them?

Nigeria is stretching her luck too far and some of you guys here pushing this type of narratives would lead the country to it's doom, the calamity which would damage the country beyond repair.

The daily killing going on is enough for sane leadership to do things differently, common Helineous, whatever you are benefitting in this system is not worth the lives of Nigerian being killed daily because the system is not structurally capable to deal with it. No individual, President or change in government will solve that.

Time is running out, you would soon get old with full regret when you see your children being hurt by a bastardised system that should protect them.

If you love this country speak about thing that would make it grow and not base your opinion on personal or self gain, what you temporary gain would still be lost to a bad system, so why not canvass for it's good

helinues:
I guess Lagos state, Kano, Ebonyi are controlling their police, reason why the governors have been performing than others.

If the governors of the affected states have been responsible enough in tackling insecurities in their respective states, they won't be blaming others

How come Lagos State could not prevent end sars killing, abi you are one of Lai Mohammed comrades that believe there was no killing?

What about hersdmen killing in Ebonyi, is that a sign of state doing well. How can a state with poor security bevsaid to be doing well. Think

helinues:
That's irrespective of those who have been attacking Buhari Like Ortom. If the state governors even after Fg oversighting them are still lazy in generating new income for survival, how can we trust this same state governors when Nigeria is restructured.

I am not saying I am against restructuring, but we need to see seriousness from our state governors.

2023 would decide the fate of all this regional security outfit

You don't get it, no pay individual, community or country grow by relying on handout.

The beauty of growth and development comes form work effort and labour. How many of people that inherited parents money are utilising it well.

Think, brother, Nigeria will only develop when each one and region earn what he works for. Any other argument is just time wasting

AlexBells:
If Subsidy is removed, petrol demand would reduce, there is no monopoly of petrol importers, Nigerians would enjoy similar price with what's obtainable in other countries without petrol subsidy, people would no longer need to put on the generator set to charge a cell phone, they can patronize mass charging centres and the number of cars would reduce on the roads, and less young people would go into fraud to afford a ride if they cant afford petrol, transport would almost remain the same just that more people would buy bicycles, better for the environment

Your post is full of . misinformation and you conductuted zero research and only rely on beer parlour gist to formulate your believe about subsidy removal.

First, you have forgotten that NNPC had become the sole importer of fuel into Nigeria since 2017 as a result to find a lasting solution to importers corruption.

Nigeria is an oil producing country and the simple and basic economic principle is that international price exists when you export and should not apply to local production unless we are going to remain slave for ever to the Western world. The first step in achieving that is to start refining for consumption at local price and export the remaining at international market price. That should be the responsibility of government regulatory body and policy of government.


Now let look at your warp notion that removal of fuel subsidy will lead to reduced usage of the product shows your lack of knowledge in basic economic principle that place fuel as essential commodity in country where it remain the major source of energy since there's no electricity.

To understand this better, check the international price of the commodities and compare with the local price of the commodities where they are produces

1. Cocoa
2. Wheat
3 Sugar
4. Palm Oil
5. Gold

Now think of the consequences of fuel removal that is going to increase number of okada business that is daily leading to serious accident and turning our youth to handicap. Go to any hospital and see that the emergency section is saturated with victims of motorbike accident. Can the government, the health sector and the society deal with the consequences of increased handicaps of its people?

God1000:
The people that benefitted from free education and other government empowerment in those days are the ones making life difficult for us today

That's it, they are the proponent of one Nigeria.

But if you provide your water, electricity, pay private bill on education and health and still buy bulldog and mount high fence and gate, you feel disenchanted about Nigeria. Sadly the number is increasing on daily basis.

Truly it's Nigeria that is breeding BH, bandits and kidnappers

God1000:
As for me since I was born till this moment, I've not gained anything from our government whether local, state and federal government.
Instead the government has made my life and many young Nigerians miserable with their evil policies and programs, corruption and maladministration is the order of the day.
Nothing like social security, you have to fend for yourself everyday under unconducive environment.

What exactly is the purpose of having government if our leaders cannot provide basic services, everyday we go out to scavenge/make ends meet and all our hardwork and efforts have not yield anything good.

This na serious matter o. It depends on your age anyway. The generation before and after independence benefited immensely from this country but if you are born late 70s up till now na sufferhead.

There was time when graduates are given car and employment waiting for them.

I know some people will come up with population growth bla bla, they should know that the country ought to have plan and grow the economy as well.

Of course there are still few milking the country dry, you see their children defending the government and the country, I dont blame them but
anyone that make excuses for this country will receive spiritual slap.

cybertyrant:
These are the population and ranking of major tribes in the nigerdelta.
Prove me wrong if i made a mistake

Niger delta states

1-abia
2-anambra
3-akwa ibom
4-bayelsa
5-cross river
6-delta
7-edo
8-imo
9-lagos
10-ondo
11-rivers

With these oil and gas states i judge my population
1-igbo
2-yoruba
3-ijaw
4-ibibio
5-urhobo
6-binis
7-efik
8-ikwerre
9-esan
10-kalabari
Least is igala(northern anambra)

Oil production
1-rivers
2-akwa ibom
3-delta
4-imo
5-bayelsa
6-abia
7-ondo
8-anambra
9-edo
10-cross river
Lagos hasnt started production

Landmass
1-delta
2-cross river
3-ondo
4-edo
5-anambra
6-bayelsa
7-rivers
8-abia
9-akwa ibom
10-imo
11-lagos

What do u think

Lagos has been producing oil for many years at Dahomey basin by Folawiyo company. It is very visible if you every visit Badagry beach or travel through Seme border.

Stop making statement that would make you look like illiterate and uninformed

Look at fence of my office then. We started this fourth rep together. May God crown our efforts

makemoneywbsite:
In Igbo land, we do not even forget the dead talk less the living. How could a man be willing to lay down his life for his people without knowing he'll be bought and sold for a penny?

Will they remember Igboho when the next wave of onslaught from the Fulani warlords commence? Is he lost in the ocean of forgetfulness? Hmmm... I cry for my Igboho. The warrior from the west.

We don hear you that is doing remembrance day for Kanu every Monday with a sacrifice of 2 of your youth that you beheaded and burnt alive