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@krayola. .
Keep dreaming, na una papa get am?

@huxley. . .
Check you recent posts it should be there. . .
Try copy half post it then copy and post the remaining. . . . In that way you have two relatively shorter posts immune from the spam bot. . .

@krayola
LOL. . .
Is it the same anointing barca used last season?

We're yet to see a verified miracle before you even talk about advertising it sef. . . .

Krayola2:
haha. I agree with u. I was just trying to do a Tudor impersonation.

The God of religion is as real as Cinderella.

Dude you're On Your Own ooo. . . .

Deep Sight:
@ Tudor, Mazaje - Very good!

We are now breaking out of the first level of the discussion. Let me just add for emphasis before going forward that the reason it was important to accept that 0 + 0 = 0 in all circumstances is so that we appreciate that once we have an element ("1" or anything that exists at all in any form., then it could not have come out of the zero quatity. There must be the intervention of a substantive element to move from zero to something ("1".

Therefore: 0 + 1 = 1. Agreed?

If you accept the above equation, you accept that the world, universe, existence, whatever you call it - came not from the zero element, but from something. There needed to be an intervention in the zero element by 1 (That is to say: 0 + 1 = 1).

Thus the premise is; something caused the universe. Agreed?

Have you considered the possibility that this "intervention" might just be an unknown law of the physical universe perhaps visible and obtainable in other galaxies that we have yet to discover?. . . .

What'd I miss?

Yes, me too. . . I accept.
Now forward please.

Deep Sight:
Is it your expectation that the laws of physics change? (Be very careful in reflecting on this question).

Is it your expectation that they cannot change?

Also; even if, for the sake of argument we accept that the laws of physics change, we must perforce accept that nothing can change with reference to the zero quantity - nothingness or infinity - for the very reason that the very nature of zero is nothing. Therefore there is nothing to actually change at all - nothing exists. For this reason, in all circumstances and at all places, the zero quantity, by definition, remains zero.
Thus even if the dubious principle that physical laws change can be accepted, once we speak of the zero quantity, there is quite simply nothing to change. Not in any circumstance.

So yes - 0 + 0 = 0. Everywhere. Agreed?

Like mazaje said, you've made an exception for our physical universe. . .so lets move on.

bolaskyz:
this tudor guy still don't know what am talking about, he's so d*ft, who's talking about premier league here.who says God has physical toes.wonder if he knows what Metaphor is. no wonder i just saw him causing trouble on another thread.

Do you actually read the rubbish you write before you post?. . . .haba!

@bolaskys^^
What do you do for a living?

@Deep sight.
Slow your roll. . . .lets first establish that 0 + 0 = 0 all over the universe then we can go ahead. . .

Pastor AIO:
pi has never been equal to 3.14 but has only been approximately 3.14. The only way that pi could be a different number would be if space were no longer Euclidean.  

2 plus 2 equals 4, not on earth or anywhere in the vast reaches of Space/galaxy/universe, but in the mind of the person thinking about them.  These numbers and functions are abstractions.  They are not referring to any physical event in the universe.

so pastor, could it be tha t 0+0=0 is also a mind concept and has nothing to do with any physical event in the universe?

bolaskyz:
@Tudor
see the way the guy took on my points one after the other as if there is a trophy at stake.

Is that why you post on nairaland, to win trophies?
Dude you're on the wrong site. . . Obviously nairaland is beyond your intellectual capacity,
Go to www.premierleague.com and play fantasy football, there are trophies up for grabs there. . .

i guess u feel better now.just discovered u don't know jack about what am talking about.it's beyond u, dat's why u'll continue reasoning these things out with your brain, the pharisees did, we all know how well they tackled Christ even when they saw things happen,  don't need to defend myself cos u'll probably want to fight again, saw your threads,u're the antagonistic,always-wanting-to-fight type. so many things go beyond the human brain-until u're there u're nowhere.

You make me laugh! Ha ha ha.
If something goes beyond your brain how'd you understand it then?

These are the lies rogues like oyedepo tell you so you can surrender your senses to them telling you it's "beyond your understanding". . . .gullibility and stupidity all rolled into one.

I still maintain you are an HYPOCRITE to ve gone to C.U and still sound the way u did.Why go to a school who's values u don't subscribe to
Is it that u didn't ve a choice or they forced u 2 go there afterall there are good private Universities all over the place.

Yea, yeah!
Typical of a brainwashed oyedepite, you'll keep blabbing anything no matter how dumb or stupid as long as it makes you happy. . . .well, who am I to prevent a deluded lunatic from enjoying the fruits of his madness. . .

Obviously u don't know who Smith Wigglesworth is so why name him a con man? He's one of the greatest men to ve walked the face of the earth.U'll be proud to have 1/10th of his achievements.

I still maintain smith wigglesworth is/was a con man. . . . Only a dubious personality would claim to have magical powers. . .

Be careful so you don't step on God's toes-problem is u won't know until u've done so and consequence'll be grave.

Didn't know god has toes. . . .my bad. . .

Don't blindly criticize everything.U're a mere mortal, u don't ve all the reasoning prowess in this world.

No one is blindly criticizing anything!
Oyedepo is robbing people in BROAD DAYLIGHT. . . .even the blindman can see it!

Agreed.
This is a discussion and i'd expect to be able to ask a question or two so am clear. . . Theres a reason i used "As far as we know" when i agreed with your equation. . .

I'm not a mathematics expert but i'd like to ask,
That 2 + 2 = 4 on earth does it mean 2 + 2 = 4 all over the galaxies of the universe?
Does pi equal 3.14 in all billions of galaxies?. . . .any mathematician in the house?

Good.
As far as we know, 0+0 = 0

Before we begin, I'd like to ask, does this your "empirical reasoning"
prove beyond doubt that there's actually a god?

bolaskyz:
I think some pple r taking this too far. We need not be one sided in our reasoning cos there r issues we'r not attending to here.

-The man is not a magician so why talk like u expect him to heal everybody JUST LIKE THAT ;it doesn't work like that, he doesn't do the healing, he is only a tool in the hand of the one that does-God. God decides whether/when/how to heal. Not being able to heal his wife doesn't make him lesser than a man of God.
*How did the great Smith Wigglesworth die? He had chronic hemorrhoids yet he healed people with all sorts of imaginable/unimaginable diseases.

You people just make me laugh!
Who the hell is smith wigglesworth?
Are there proofs for the so called miracles performed by the american con man? If you don't know his miracles are staged and none has ever been scientifically verified.
How many amputees did he heal sef?

Oyedepo hasn't finished chasing demons out of nigeria he's going to liberia to torment the queen of sheeba.
For petes sake the woman is just a traditional leader and not some demon from the 9th heaven. Thank goodness for the internet before these charlatans would make bogus claims of the demons and dragons they cast out in Timbuktu now we can find out the truth in a matter of seconds.

*How did Abiola die?- after all HE IS A GOOD MAN by popular standards-why didn't his good works prevent his death?

I wonder how you think.
Was Abiola a christian?
Did MKO declare himself a man of god?
Did Abiola ever claim to have the divine keys to healing?
Pls think before you post.

*The people castigating Oyedepo would readily say they love Pst. Kumuyi for his humility and standards-his wife went to be with the Lord(DIED! if u don't understand what that means) recently- she wasn't up to 70 yrs, so why will God forsake the wife of His great humble servant. Don't u think there are reasons?

What reasons?
This just shows that christianity is all one big hoax by a jewish carpenter called jesus.

*Why won't muslims heal with the name of Mohammed or Allah? If they do, how many have we heard so far? Aren’t there reasons.

Who said muslims don't have "miracles" too. . . .do you research and find out. . .

*Why will the likes of Tudor attend CU and pretend throughout he's one of them only for him to graduate and begin saying sorts, what's the meaning of hypocrisy and double standards? Is the great profiler not being profiled now(a few lines in nairaland forum and have already started finding faults with him) talkless of someone who pastors a very big Church and talks everyday.

Dude again I wonder how you think. Damn!
What do you mean by acting like one of them?
I've been an atheist right from my teens, I never listened to any sermon, I read the bible only to pass exams, I never prayed when they pray infact I was there only to get my degree, so think again.

*God knows the devil is causing so many havoc yet He kept him alive. Don’t you think He has reasons?


IF THE BISHOP IS THIS BAD AND HYPOCRITICAL WHY DON'T WE CREATE A SPECIAL THREAD AND START VOICING OUR GREIVANCES AGAINST GOD'S INSENSITIVITY AND LACK OF ACTION-AT LEAST HE'S AWARE OF OYEDEPO'S ALEDGED 'MISDEEDS'

Where was god when Rev. King was killing his members while feeding his sperm to others?
Sorry we can't wait till Oyedepo starts murdering faithfuls. . . .

Let's quit this criticisms-If we all submit ourselves for public scrutiny we'll probably know we can NEVER be right in everybody's eyes-T.B Joshua does things to help the poor and he's still being criticized for not knowing how to preach bla bla bla. SO TELL ME WHAT DO PPLE REALLY WANT? Mediocres who'll prefer to stay in the background and criticize others who are bold enough to stand for something good or bad.

Does papa oyedepo not belong to the bunch of rogues called PFN, the same organization leading in criticizing T.B joshua?

One single man's life and actions have just generated controversies with lots of thread and thousands of comment. It's such an achievement. We should all work to the point where malicious pple like qblaze,tudor and davidylan wants to pull us down. Then you’ll be sure you’re doing something.

Who wants to pull you down?
We see a man stealing from the poor for his own selfish interests, the right thing to do is speak up.

If you judge the greatness/ of a man of god by the amount of comments and threads created then osama bin laden is truly a greater man of god than oyedepo.

nimma:
dis na total lie. there is just no way a pastor can be at home,while his wife ll be in church.a pastor who is supposed to preach haba? make una find better lie wey we go believe. dis na small pikin lie.its senseless and e no make sense

Madam in winners chapel a branch may have more than one pastor, sometimes one senior pastor and several junior pastors.
So it wouldn't be far fetched for one pastor to come up with an excuse to stay home on sunday.

Last time I checked you worship Jesus and he's DEAD. . . .hypocrite!

This is the kind of stupidity that just makes one wanna kill himself. . . .damn!

I quite remember Bisola in school. . . After all the shakara she is now screwing old pastors. . . .dem guys must hear this!

hubreality:
In cases of self defence, I always use my in-spirit energy and wisdom to control the mind(thoughts) of any rival whatsoever without drawing out a sword. I found it 100% safe.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

If this is your plan for self defence then sorry you aint got much time to live. . .

hubreality:
In cases of self defence, I always use my in-spirit energy and wisdom to control the mind(thoughts) of any rival whatsoever without drawing out a sword. I found it 100% safe.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

If this is your plan for self defence then sorry you aint got much time to live. . .

Are you a politician or multi-millionaire?
Coz if you're not, daddy Eunuch no send you.

muhsin:
Prove them. Simple.

ha ha ha. . . .don't tell me you havent read salman rushdies book the proof is all there in black and whhte.

muhsin:
I still repeat it: no religion accept blasphemy. If is there (or Christianity, as you gave example) why the uproar after Dan Brown's novel? Why and why? No smoke without fire.

They aired their criticisms reasonably by countering what dan brown said with the TRUTH no violence or threats.
Why go to the extent of ordering for the death of salman rushdie?
Like I said, it smirks of a cover-up to hide the truth. . . .so yes, the satanic verses do exist!

Well. . .thats your forte I realized. Calling names, using swearing words and the likes. Keep it up.

You atheist are nothing other than mad people. And everybody knows that fact.

No Satanic Verses in the Qur'an, I repeat.

You got that right. . .Atheists are mad for the TRUTH!
We stand against savage and barbaric delusions spread by islam and the rest.
And oh, the satanic verses are TRUE.

muhsin:
Maybe Brown or Madonna had talked true and maybe not. And Christianity and Islam have different code and conduct, for they are two different things. Thus can't function in the same way and manner.

BTW, let me repeat what's being discussed here (for I realized you are so myopic, you are yet to read anything clearly): there are NO Satanic Verses. Thats why even the title of the thread reads Alleged Satanic Verses.

Thanks

You're such an embarrassing joke!
First you declared that NO religion tolerates blasphemy I brought out instances to expose your shameless two-faced lie then you divert to "they have different code of conduct"- what the hell is that?

From what we have seen in salman rushdie's case and in the muslim world in general it's quite clear the "code of conduct" of islam is to kill, murder, rape, behead and amputate. Also most religions attribute the aforementioned code as the forte of the evil one/ dark one/satan/devil/Esu/Ekwensu. . . . We do not need any satanic verse to show that Allah = Satan. QED

Blah blah blah. . . .

Quit crying abeg.
Everytime people ask questions or expose the ignorance, lies, barbarism, atrocities, hypocrisy and wickedness of islam you people start moaning. . . . Since when has it become a crime to speak the truth?

What the hell does "people of the book" mean anyway?

Look at all of them deceiving themselves. . . .i laugh!

That story has been shown to be fabricated and lack merit both on this forum and several others. . .
So quit living in delusions, jesus is DEAD -dead for over 2000 years for that matter- and does not appear to peeps buried alive.

I think it's Shogologobangose ala bank. . . .yeah, it is. . .