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That kleptomanic G.O keeps inventing ways to milk poor people of their money. Now people pay toll fee to use a damn toilet?!?
You can't even take a shit without god sending tax collectors. . .haba.


Well the idiot has got to get money anyhow he can to fuel and maintain his luxury gulf stream jet. . .

liznelson:
@Tudor, no wonder,  i been wan say a christian no go dey misyarn like u dey misyarn. May God just have mercy upon ur life and dat of generations coming behind u because u are too careless with ur utterances. Gosh!! u r just taking this issue very personal. Why call a man as innocent as dat a criminal? U better decamp from Saakaguchi and join the camp of JESUS CHRIST, THE I AM THAT I AM, THE ONLY WISE GOD, THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, JEHOVAH NISSI, THE ELSHADDAI GOD, THE ALL-KNOWING GOD, THE ALL-SEEING GOD THAT SEES THE END OF A THING FROM ITS BEGINNING, THE AUTHOR AND THE FINISHER OF OUR FAITH, THE GOD THAT IS POWERFUL THAN UR "saakaguchi"(hiss), THE GOD WHO IS STILL PRESERVING UR LIFE TILL THIS MOMENT(no dull urself o, if u think na saaka,  dey preserve ur life u r missing it o!),MY FATHER WHO IS JUST TOO MUCH.
Just imagine, see how many names my GOD carry, just to mention a few. Ur saaka-wetin carry as many names as these? maybe some nonesense names anyway. Guy, if u r not in Christ, u r old-fashioned, trust me. GIVE UR LIFE TO JESUS AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!

So you know all the names of god and you don't know that Saakaguchi means God in an extinct asian language the same way "ubangiji" and "chineke" mean God in hausa and igbo respectively. . .

And oh, adeboye is not innocent but a theiving criminal.

GEW:
what do they say the gods do to those he wants to kill?

Are you threatening me?

JeSoul:
Nope. I like a good number of the atheists here on NL.
However some are notoriously of guilty of what tpia said

Aren't christians guilty of the same as regards muslim threads or threads of other sects/denominations??

Funny story!

Every time mayhem breaks out we always hear of some so called "security report" after the carnage.
Who are they deceiving?

OLAADEGBU:
Check this out:

" . . . Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race.  His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." -- Psalm 19:5-6

In speaking of the sun, the psalmist says that "his going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." 

For many years critics scoffed at these verses, claiming that they taught the old false doctrine of geocentricity (i.e. the sun revolves around the earth).  Scientists thought the sun was stationary.  Then it was discovered in recent years that the sun is in fact moving through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour.  It is traveling through the heavens and has a "circuit" just as the Bible says.  Its circuit is so large that it would take approximately 200 million years to complete one orbit.

God's law is also like the sun.  On judgment Day it will arise with its burning heat and shine the brilliant light of eternal justice on the dark corners of the human heart.  Nothing will be hidden from its consuming heat.   

You people make me laugh.
I have to commend the way the christian apologists glady twist the scriptures to accomodate any recent scientific discovery.
Okay enough laughing, lets debunk some crazy claims:

"his going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it:"

Olaadegbu like the hypocrite he is brought out only "circuits" deluding himself that the bible correctly predicted the "circuit nature" of the movement of the sun.
Lets state it for the record that SCIENCE which olaadegbu shamefully cites as his means of validation states that the earth rotates on it's "circuit" which is around the MILKY WAY galaxy and takes abou 225million years for one cycle.
Now the lying bible goes on to define the so called circuit :"his going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it".
In other words the sun moves from " The begining point of heaven to the ends of it"

Now every slowpoke with a primary six certificate should know that including our galaxy Milky way, billions of other galaxies exist in the so-called heavens. As the sun has been shown by science to revolve around only the milky way which is not even up to 1% of the universe i wonder if king david was smoking marijuana when he wrote that the sun moves from the begining of the heaven all the way to the ends of it. . .

OLAADEGBU:
Have you ever come across a figure of speech before?  Anyway, you need a decoder to unlock the meanings of Scripture to you otherwise you will keep tripping over yourself.

HA HA HA
where the bible makes a complete mess of itself and makes bizzare scientific claims you goons claim figure of speech. . .why isn't everything else like jesus walking on water or parting the red see all a figure of speech heh?- i laugh!

Am I surprised you guys can't differentiate between astrology and astronomy?  Not at all. 

What is this rubbish?

Another crap!
Even right from hunter gatherer period, man has always known that the day is caused by the shining sun and night light by the moon.
It doesn't take a genius to know that when man started counting days or seasons the sun and the moon were known to play important roles.

Another crap!
Even right from hunter gatherer period, man has always known that the day is caused by the shining sun and night light by the moon.
It doesn't take a genius to know that when man started counting days or seasons the sun and the moon were known to play important roles.

Austin if they ban religion the deluded goons will say yes it's the end time and john prophesied about this. Infact that'll make more deceived folks join them.

Same ol' same ol' zanu-pf spoof. . .

So tpia is female?
Damn this is sadder than i thought!

Lwandle:
Do you even know what you are talking about Tudor?

Since 2000 we have been bombarded with stories about Zimbabwe such that people who know nothing like yourselves think they know everything about Zimbabwe. We have heard how half the population (abt 7million) is starving to death year after year and yet no pictures or even videos showing these starving multitudes.

I guess you think people are blind. How much is a loaf of bread and how much is the minimum wage in zimbabwe?
At a time The minimum wage couldn't even purchase you one loaf! This not to talk of the majority who are unemployed and aren't even earning a minimum wage!


All the videos and pictures of zimbabweans starving and queing for humanitarian supplies from the NGO's somehow are non existent to you right?
Not to talk of the testimonies of zimbabweans who escape the country to neighbouring states like SA. . .

Those farmers did not grow food for Zimbabweans but grew cash crops, flowers, mange touts and stuff for British supermarkets etc. They were not our farmers but instead were British farmers ergo how can the common people now starve just because these farmers have been kicked off the land?

Shut up!
When the agricultural sector was booming was zimbabwe importing food?
Where was the food consumed by the local population coming from, heaven? - the usual rubbish from zanu-pf propaganda machiner!

The only thing your masters have managed to do is destroy our currency and bring our economy to its knees and perhaps make people like you feel superior to us Zimbabweans.

Mugabe killed his economy and currency. Japan was under serious sanctions after WWII yet we didn't see 20 billion yen currency note.

If Zimbabwe was that bad why is it overflowing with Nigerians Chinese and other nationalities? Perhaps you should catch a plane and go ask your fellow countrymen who are flocking there as we speak.

Dont let ignorance be your bliss brother.

Rubbish!
Nigerians for where?
Keep deceiving yourself. Nigerians would gladly emigrate to somalia.

We all know why the chinese are there and it's to negotiate new weapon and military deals with mugabe!
When they are through, they jet out of that hell hole.

liznelson:
Oh, didnt know dat was wat u meant by choosing to be damned. i'm not saying u shld attend the convention. It's not compulsory. i'm not attending myself,so,
U may not even be a Redeemed member in the first place, so y will i force u to attend.
My own is dat u shld stop blaspheming abt wat u dont av a proof if u dont want God's wrath on ur head. The repercussion can be BAD, as in BAD.

Where is your proof that that criminal is a man of god?

By the way, which of the religions do u practice?

I worship Saakaguchi The creator of heaven and earth, The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. . . .

Ibime:
@ Tudor,

Economic problems in Zimba are a hydra-headed beast. You claim that North Korea is surviving on sanctions, but North Korea is losing more people per head of population to hunger than Zimba. Crude-oil is always in demand so Libya is exempt.

So would zimbabwe have been resilient to the sanctions if mugabe hadn't screwed up the agricultural sector. . .food is always in demand and it's ever more expensive these days.

Again, like I have said I wholly support land reform just like I support the Mau-Mau uprisings in Kenya. It is up to every leader to determine if he can carry out these reforms whilst sustaining the economy. For example, if Mugabe had trained a school of farmers who were able to pick the baton from the whites, then sanctions would not hit Zimba so hard, cos Zimbas aggrarian land can cover all their food needs and more. Morally, Mugabe is right. Logistically and practically, he is wrong.

As per election violence, Mugabe is wrong!

We will be waiting to see how similar land reform scenarios unfold in other Southern and Eastern African countries.

Like you said the key is to reform without harming the economy and i wholly support that. Instead the tyrant decided to allocate the seized farms to his cronies who didn't know jack shit about farming. Commercial agriculture is a skilled profession and that skill needs to be acquired it doesn't just fall from heaven.

It all points to mugabe as the one who erred and he is to blame his excuse is britan and america have sanctioned him and want to colonize zimbabwe again diverting attention from his own failures allowing him to keep imposing himself on zimbabweans in the name of anti-neo colonialism.
Ask the old fool if it's the CIA that's supposed to plant crops for him or is it the british government's responsibility to teach your kids in school.

Africa is tired of this sit tight life presidents from zimbabwe to cameroon and libya and so on. The earlier they all die (whether natural or otherwise) the better for the progress of the continent.

How many times have you been banned except for the crazy spam bot and even at that you were unbanned at the speed of light.

Enjoy your untouchable status while it lasts coz we common men will revolt soon!

Ibime:
@ Afam,

Can we stick to the point of the elections. [b]I do not need schooling on the cause of economic problems in Zimba as caused by Western sanctions. [/b]I do not believe we should be arguing on something we both agree on, ie that the West has strangled Zimba because they do not agree with Mugabes land reform policy. Trust me, I am an African before anything else, and I believe that many other countries will have the same problems as Zimba going forward ie Kenya, Zambia, SA etc.

I believe the main argument we are having is about the elections which you claim that Mugabe did not steal. Can we delineate this argument from our feelings over land reform and address the election issue independently? Same Zimba friends I spoke about earlier morally supported Mugabes land reform act, but same Zimba friends are supporting MDC for practical reasons. Can you with hand on heart claim the mandate was not stolen, knowing that the opposition collected half the vote in an African country, despite the advantage accrued to the incumbent - can you claim hand on heart the election isnt stolen?

I beg to differ, mugabe largely screwed his country's economy to the ground. . .several countries like vietnam, japan, iraq, iran, libya, north korea and co. Were all under strict sanctions at one time or the other You hardly see them having 20,000,000,000 currency note with large scale hunger and collapse of public infrastructure. . . .yet mugabe has billions to shell out to import weapons prior to elections. inaddition to celebrating flamboyant birthday bashes. . .
The old foolish tyrant has screwed his country and he's using sanctions as an excuse. . .but zimbabweans know better, they attempted to vote him out but no, he decided to rig the elections yet again, in some villages voters were forced to go vote, others where enticed with food and cooking oil to vote, taking advantage of their hunger and poverty caused by mugabe in the first place. Even after elections zanu-pf militia went around attacking neighbourhoods who voted MDC in addition to killing individuals without the voters ink on their finger meaning they didn't vote.

The earlier mugabe dies the better for the future of the beautiful people of zimbabwe.

@Topic.
Damn! I'm disappointed!
I thought it was the
murderous idiot mugabe who died.
Yeah well i know the fool hasn't got long to live. . .be patient zimbabweans hope beckons. . .

Ibime don't waste your time with the lovers of the old fool called mugabe. . .soon you'll see a new poster with the username "mugabe" claiming to be the dictator himself- just like he created a new id claiming to be a zimbabwean so he can present his propaganda like a first hand witness. . . .hilarious these guys are!

Choosing not to go to the RCCG convention to see Daddy 419 G.O is a choice that'll definately make my bank account.

You want to send us into the bush to go preach while you stay in lagos enjoying the donations abi?
No thanks!
If it's a mission to the UK or USA then i'm in.

To be an untouchable, All you have to do is be a muslim and an active one in the religion and islam section at that. . . .no matter what you do you will NEVER get banned.
Not even when you threaten the life of a moderator and other forumites like Mullah Abuzola did. . .


The muhajadeen was allowed to go scot free until when the intensity of his crimes became too difficult to overlook and the hypocrisy of the admin became all to apparent, he was banned for ONE DAY . . . .and even after he was unbanned he came out with fire and brimstone threatening the wrath of allah on mukina2 and no entry into Aljannah for her. . . .how many of us ordinary members have ever unbanned after breaking a rule?
But not if you're a muslim on NL, you are UNTOUCHABLE.

In other words believe or be damned. . . .i'd rather be damned!

debosky:
Wrong question!

First of all, what is your motivation to drink or not to drink?

I Corinthians 10:31[i] So whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.[/i]

This is the question we should ask ourselves before doing ANYTHING as it lies at the core of our motives/actions.

Sharaap there jor!
What is this unrealistic rubbish you've written?

When you watch and support your Ass-nal football club is it to the glory of god?
when you watch secular movies how does that glorify god.

Take this crap and go tell it to the goats. . . .

Also instructive is Matthew 22: 36-40

“Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?”
37 Jesus replied, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’[e] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[f] 40 The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.”

Is your drinking/not drinking unto the Lord? Are you harming/negatively affecting your neighbour by drinking or not drinking?

Once you examine these questions in light of the scriptures, you will know what to do in every situation

The bible is not prescriptive on this matter, but gives different examples to show you the different contexts in which consumption/otherwise has effects.

Is your constant watching of fabregas score own goals unto the lord?
Howabout viewing Mrs Almunia concede goals like a basket- is it love?

I just hope daddy 419 G.O heals the HIV negative folks. Amen.

mactao:
Wow, Tudor.

1. God genuinely doesn't like sin. He doesn't like it when people keep going back to it. That's why he has to make sure we learn some things. Not because he's taking time to protect his heart like a naive little virgin girl, but it's bad. Even for us.

You keep going round and round. How many seconds does it take to repent?
Why should god refuse to answer prayers immediately after repentance?
If i repent now why shouldn't my prayers be answered until after months- how stupid is that?

2. Do you believe everything you hear and read? You've totally blanked out the possibility of this family hiding something from the public.

Why must the family be hiding something?
Why cant it be your god who is incompetent and wicked?

3. There are people who read the Bible like literature. I'm sure you do, as do many atheists and muslims on Nairaland. You can't compare the level at which you read it with the level at which a Christian reads it. People who aren't born again read the Bible. How come it isn't affecting their faith?

Classic christian apologist crap!
The bible is just a literature like any other story book. Deceiving yourself into believing that you read it on another realm is delusion at it's finest!

Exactly what I mean. You and I have read the book of Songs of Solomon on two entirely different levels.

delusion! Delusion!!

4. I'm not a liar. I think you're just choosing to believe the convenient part of the story.

Really? All you've been doing is peddling lies and making sick excuses for the redundancy of your god.

Maybe angels in atheism and angels in Christianity are quite different. Here's what the Bible says on angels:
Psalms 34:7
The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
Psalms 103:20
Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of HIs word.
Revelations 22:8-9
8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of they brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Those three passages show that angels don't just wander about and do their own bidding. They get instructions from God. When they look down and see people doing wrong things, they can't do anything about it if God doesn't give the instructions. If angels could do what you wrote there then everyone on earth would have seen an angel - and atheism wouldn't exist, I daresay. But angels have more important things to do. Read Daniel 10:12-13 for an example.

It's either you're a liar or you cannot read.
Where did i imply that angels should appear to the parents on their own. My original question was why couldn't GOD do something to warn them or SEND angels to tell them to go to the clinic since he won't answer their prayers instead of letting them believe he was listening in effect leaving the poor girl to die. Afterall an angel appeared to joseph in the dream and told him to flee to egypt because of herod wanted to kill baby jesus aka god. . . .it only shows god is selfish and would gladly send angels to save his own ass but can't spare just one of the billions he has to go warn the parents of this little girl.

I wonder what made you think I was convinced they were sinners. Exactly what I mean when I say you're choosing the convenient parts. I never stated it anywhere that the parents were sinners. I have only been saying it's a possibility.

you only stated it's a possibility, so what?
You in essence attributed the death of the girl to the parents when clearly god is to blame

Don't you get it? You're not in the right place to define what faith is and what it isn't. To start with, only a person knows exactly how much faith they have, no one else could know. Now imagine an atheist halfway across the world reading an article and trying to determine it. Pur-leese.

What are you blabbing?
Their faith is pretty glaring!
Only someone with faith as big as a mountain would deny a beloved child treatment for years believing god for a miracle. The could simply have gone to the hospital but they chose not to. The girl kept getting worse and worse yet they did not waver, even after her death they still believe she can be raised from the dead.
Then You now open to spew crap about them not having faith- what a joke!

with their mountain size faith nothing happened yet jesus said you need only a mustard seed amount- what a liar and crook that jesus was!

_{Why am I taking my time anyway? You're an atheist, for crying out loud!}

You are a deluded christian drunk with the fallacies and lies of jesus-i don't expect much from you than the usual pathetic excuses you make for your wicked god.

Funny!
Go back to mugabe and get more propaganda. . . .shoot and kill some innocent starving zimbabweans while you at it. . .