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isthatso:
Anybody can say anything on the internet. i hope you know? There are some things you read that you have to ask yourself...."does it make sense to you?" where are these things being manufactured? In have already asked you to tell me where these major components of any vehicle are manufactured in Nigeria. And if you are not manufacturing your own engines, transmission, windows, drive shafts, axles, wheels, lights, curved body panels, subframes, petrol tanks, seats, etc etc, what are you manufacturing that you get to 70%........battery? (bear in mind you said 90% but lets let that slide) I am 100% sure they do not manufacture these critical parts because you need to manufacture in hundreds of thousands and millions to justify establishing manufacturing plants for these components.

I am almost certain that alsmost no major auto manufacturer manufactures 50% of the components, it just doesnt make economic sense, so I take those figures with a grain of salt. For instance there are less than 5 or 6 companies that manufacture all the alloy wheels to nearly all the vehicle manufacturers in the world, there is a country I read about in Easter Europe i cant remmember which, one of their major exports is alloy wheels because they are a major supplier to worldwide vehicle manufacturers, there are 3 or 4 companies Bosch, denso,Delco that supply virtually all the electronic systems for all cars in the world. There are 2 or 3 companies that produce most of the gearboxes used in the world ZF being one of them. Most manufacturers do not manufacture their own seats, or tyres for instance. most airconditioners used in (0% of the worlds cars are manufactured by a handful of companies. if you find a company that can claim it manufactures more than 50% of it's components it is probably because it owns a subsidiary company like toyota owns denso and i think Gm owns Delco that also supplies other manufacturers making it viable. So when people just come talking rubbish, it shows ignorance more than anything. it's like the fashion industry (5 of all zips in this world are made by YKK and another company, the name I forget. manufacturing is a high specialised industry Innoson cannot manufacture even 20% of it's components for a mass produced car in a country like Nigeria and be profitable, even abroad it will be unprofitable at their volume level. People who do produce millions of cars every year. Most vehicle manufacturers design their cars, manufacture their chassis and then assemble components from suppliers. many dont even make their own engines. Innoson does none of these.

another reason why common sense will tell any reasonable person that innoson is not a manufacturer is because it has too many models. How many cars do they "manufacture" that they will setup a stamping die for each body part? how many body parts will the die produce to justify the expense? some things are just common sense. its like when people say Nigerin leaders have stolen 1 trillions dollars since independence...a sensible person will ask from where? how much oil have we produced that they can steal that kind of money? it all depends on whether you want to be reasonable or a jingoist.


Please if you must respong to me again, do some research and tell me where these vital components are manufactured in Nigeria or pictures otherwise lets just let this go, the more you quote me and I'm forced to respond, the more you will say I am anti Ibo so Lets just let this go I dont want to get into emotional arguments. If Innosson is indeed manufacturing even if it is only 10%. It is good for me as a Nigerian but there is a difference between manufacturing and assembling.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACDelco

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denso


https://www.alcircle.com/news/top-10-aluminium-alloy-wheel-manufacturers-in-the-world-27249


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixPhogfZTHU

isthatso:
Anybody can say anything on the internet. i hope you know? There are some things you read that you have to ask yourself...."does it make sense to you?" where are these things being manufactured? In have already asked you to tell me where these major components of any vehicle are manufactured in Nigeria. And if you are not manufacturing your own engines, transmission, windows, drive shafts, axles, wheels, lights, curved body panels, subframes, petrol tanks, seats, etc etc, what are you manufacturing that you get to 70%........battery? (bear in mind you said 90% but lets let that slide) I am 100% sure they do not manufacture these critical parts because you need to manufacture in hundreds of thousands and millions to justify establishing manufacturing plants for these components.

I am almost certain that alsmost no major auto manufacturer manufactures 50% of the components, it just doesnt make economic sense, so I take those figures with a grain of salt. For instance there are 3 companies that manufacture all the alloy wheels to nearly all the vehicle manufacturers in the world, there are 3 or 4 companies Bosch, denso,Delco that supply virtually all the electronic systems for all cars in the world. There are 2 or 3 companies that produce most of the gearboxes used in the world ZF being one of them. Most manufacturers do not manufacture their own seats, or tyres for instance. most airconditioners used in (0% of the worlds cars are manufactured by a handful of companies. if you find a company that can claim it manufactures more than 50% of it's components it is probably because it owns a subsidiary company like toyota owns denso and i think Gm owns Delco that also supplies other manufacturers making it viable. So when people just come talking rubbish, it shows ignorance more than anything.


Please if you must respong to me again, do some research and tell me where these vital components are manufactured in Nigeria or pictures otherwise lets just let this go, the more you quote me and I'm forced to respond, the more you will say I am anti Ibo so Lets just let this go I dont want to get into emotional arguments. If Innosson is indeed manufacturing even if it is only 10%. It is good for me as a Nigerian but there is a difference between manufacturing and assembling.

isthatso:
people using the word aseembly and manufacturing interchangeably does not mean they mean the same thing. Innoson vehicles are all produced under license, which means they source their parts from the real manufacturer in China and assemble them in Nigeria. That is why you will see ALL innoson vehicles in other countries under different names. I have no doubt that some of the components may be subsittuted for local manufacturers e.g batteries and the panels for the buses may be fabricated locally because they are flat but you need a stamping plant to produce all other metal parts with complex shapes, things like the wheel well, the etc especially in the cars,


Forget about what govt said, we have become an uneducated nation who use words anyhow. Annambra motor manufacturing plant Annamco has been in existence for 30-40 years, it assembled mercedes trucks. Just like Peugeot Asembly of Nigeria, dont get too seduced by words. All i asked is show me where these items mentioned are manufactured in Nigeria by Innoson or for innoson...that's all, simple no need for abuse, just show me the innoson factories that produce these 90% made in Nigeria components!!!

what determines whether you are a manufacter or an asssembler is the proportion of the constituent parts that you manufacture from raw materials yourself. I am not trying to knock or pull down Innoson, he is a pathblazer, a role model a true Nigerian or Ibo industrialist. But please dont demean what he is doing by calling him a manufacturer. he is not a manufacturer ...yet!! his achievements set him apart without people having to call him what he isnt.

A car consists of the subframe or chassis, complex shaped body panels, engines, transmission, drive shaft, steering, axle wheels, suspension, windows, seats, there is not much else to a car after these. So except for flat outer body panels for buses, which of these does innoson manufacture and where is the plant that manufactures it/them? However if it makes you feel good to call him a manufacturer, I am happy to play along in order not to upset your sensibilities

isthatso:
yep it's starting to take hold, . It was started many years ago by jonatha's regime we moaned about the high duties on cars but the results are beginning to pay off. this is why people who talk about border closure and rice need to see the big picture. VW is about to start as well

isthatso:
you are showing me picture of tools used to cut and shape FLAt panels for buses , Are those stamping plants? where is the engine plant, who makes the engines, the gear boxes, the headlamps, the drive shaft, the steering wheel, the seats

why must you always get emotive and turn everything into hate? Bottom line like I said, if as governor of Ogun state i have assembly plants in Ogun state and Innoson is actually manufacturing but does not benefit me 9because it does not provide jobs for my state or IGR for my govt) i will not as a governor patronise innoson to the detriment of my own assembly plants that actually provide jobs and iGr for my state and people. Neither do i expect Obiano or any other governor in the same position.

you can carry on debate about assembly or manufacturing with yourself, it makes no difference to me. this is a story about jobs and growth. whether you are assembling or manufacturing, you are providing jobs and IGR. everything else is an ego trip and chest beating.

isthatso:
tate.

isthatso:
they are assembling what equipment do you want to see again?


bottom line; I am a governor, i have vehicle assembly plants in my state or region, they provide jobs to people who pay taxes to my state, their presence provides knock on employment for others in my state or region. This assembly plants are all in itheir infancy, some will not survive. I am obligated to do everything i can to patronize them because to patronise others brings no benefit to me and to patronize those who are local to my state helps them grow and the more they grow, the more stable and established they become employment and revenue they bring to my state or region. I will only patronise others when i have no local alternative. i am not governor of nigeria, i am governor of my state.

isthatso:
pictures of assembly

isthatso:
Innoson is not a manufacturer, innoson assembles stop deceiving yourselves. In any event even if Hyuandai, Nissan, Honda etc are only assembling and Innoson is manufacturing, they are providing jobs for residents in the SW and IGR for the host state govts. only a foolish governor will patronise a product that brings no jobs or income to his own state and takes away jobs and igr from his state.

is innoson the one that manufactured the panels? where is his stamping plant, where did the get the steel? all you are showing are pictures of assembly

isthatso:
For those who think INNoson is the only person assembling cars in Nigeria:
KIA:
http://motoringworldng.com/making-of-lagos-kia-assembly-plant/

https://www.transportday.com.ng/can-meet-local-demand-kia-nigeria-boast/

hyuandai:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/stallion-automobile-assembly-plant-in-nigeria

honda:

https://naijauto.com/car-events/honda-cr-v-assembled-in-nigeria-3434

https://www.nairaland.com/2441482/honda-launches-nigerian-made-accord

isthatso:
For those who think INNoson is the only person assembling cars in Nigeria:
KIA:
http://motoringworldng.com/making-of-lagos-kia-assembly-plant/

https://www.transportday.com.ng/can-meet-local-demand-kia-nigeria-boast/

hyuandai:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/stallion-automobile-assembly-plant-in-nigeria

honda:

https://naijauto.com/car-events/honda-cr-v-assembled-in-nigeria-3434

ogunsbanjul:
Please with due respect, what of Abia state governor? The state has been transformed to old Ibadan city then when it was the dirtiest state/city in the whole world.

hammerT:
AND YORUBA MEDIA FORGOT TO TELL THE WORLD HIS TRIBE.


TWITTER IS SILENT, NO REACTION.


HAD HE BEEN FROM A CERTAIN PART OF THE COUNTRY, THEY WILL GATHER ON TWITTER AND EVERY PLATFORM TO LABEL AN ENTIRE TRIBE CRIMINAL.

FuckDaMods:
Is it in operation now?

AutoReportNG:
The Federal Government on Wednesday in Abuja pledged to ensure the delivery of a new international airport in Lagos before Easter celebration next year.

The Minister of Aviation, Hadi Sirika, stated this in an interview with journalists at the end of the weekly Federal Executive Council meeting presided over by Vice President Yemi Osinbajo in the State House.

The minister also said the necessity to construct a new airport in Lagos had become compelling, bearing in mind that when the airport was first commissioned in 1980, it was meant to serve only 200,000 people.

However, he said the number of passengers using the airport has risen from 200,000 in 1980 to 8 million people today with a number of infrastructures there already collapsed.

He also explained that the plan for the overhaul of the Lagos airport is in two phases, noting that after the delivery of the new airport, the old one will be redesigned and reconstructed in acknowledgement of the growing population of Lagos as well as the attraction that Lagos continues to generate.

Meanwhile, these are the on-going construction of the new terminal of MMIA as obtained by AutoReportNG.... See more of the photos below

[img]https://1.bp..com/-sQvE1IlT7bk/XbIpk5ZO6MI/AAAAAAAAhiE/bAWyXpWka_07ai_bnO0lCFNxH7sWMZdfwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MMIA.jpg[/img]

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[img]https://1.bp..com/-6TpoLT3GV1U/XbIsKTWHJaI/AAAAAAAAhiU/U7L6t0vz7OM-71RuWEZuDkHWjP2qkOGNwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MMIA%2B3.jpg[/img]

[img]https://1.bp..com/-cFLQ9nXcdtY/XbI01H_58JI/AAAAAAAAhio/GLA_taK8NyQvVEt4zW85FpPiRhkgiwE3ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MMIA%2B5.jpg[/img]

[img]https://1.bp..com/-_eI0PZOOzcs/XbI0v4IBF3I/AAAAAAAAhic/lkIaDVpZ8cQTaGcKVfx3DCx3M5cpDkWtQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/MMIA%2B10.jpg[/img]

To see more of the interior, and other works, please check on the source...


Source:
https://www.autoreportng.com/2019/10/checkout-new-lagos-airport-terminal.html

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Chizuru01:
Look at how ndị Igbo chased we Ya-raba to gutter area. Choi, am not happy that we are living in brown roof slums while ndị Igbo is enjoying in Mansions.

Emir of Illorin must hear this

ifyalways:
Shame on Obiano.

eternityk:
Na glo yoruba company dey sponsor your nsala abi Wetin u call am
Upon all your imaginary anambra billionaires

Ikpeazukerosene:
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Go and check posts online, your Obi of Onitsha would eat at the Ofala luncheon like a beggar and be thanking Glo.

victorazyvictor:

eternityk:
Osu
Don't u have a jungle to develop?

TSRC:
Juhel, emzor, fidson and orange drugs are the only indigenous drug companies in Nigeria worth anything.

Pigsandidiots:
[s][/s]Go and tell adenuga that one.

bestgift4ever:
Anambra state need a good road, Obinna do something biko, just forget federal government. We will be coming home for Xmas to meet that bad road again�

eternityk:
Yea thanks
I will create another thread soon for this
I don't have data
That's y

Ikpeazukerosene:
Adenuga owns glo, Atiku doesn't own nada.