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Because, too accept it would be to accept shar.ree.yah law as the governance structure and ruling framework. Shar.ree.yah is unable to build thriving economies or create and sustain the institutions required for progressive societies or advancement.

Look around the globe, there is no country which implements shar.ree.yah, which has not suffered from it's retrograde effects. Name one shar.ree.yah run nation with a thriving economy, democratic institutions and a full suite of human rights. Told you!

Evidenced closer to home by the impoverished and backward state of the northern part of Nigeria. After 25 years of shar.ree.yah, the promise and expectations have not only failed to materialise, it's been quite the opposite. Failing and woefully behind the south in all indicators


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A mar tar? Whose people were literally dying of thirst while he accumulated munitions and unblinkingly pursued nuclear armament?


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Antlisiam:
This 1-0-1 fasting

. Binary code fasting.

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I can't accept it because I choose to serve a Holy God, who says be ye holy, even as God is holy. I reject a purported god who claims to apportion adultery to every man.

1 Peter 1:15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.

(5)Chapter: The Son Of Adam's Share Of Zina Etc. Is Decreed For Him(5)باب قُدِّرَ عَلَى ابْنِ آدَمَ حَظُّهُ مِنَ الزِّنَى وَغَيْرِهِ ‏ ‏
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) as saying:

Verily Allah has fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in, and which he of necessity must commit. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look, and the adultery of the tongue is the licentious speech, the heart desires and yearns, which the parts may or may not put into effect.
حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، وَعَبْدُ بْنُ حُمَيْدٍ، - وَاللَّفْظُ لإِسْحَاقَ - قَالاَ أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، حَدَّثَنَا مَعْمَرٌ، عَنِ ابْنِ طَاوُسٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالَ مَا رَأَيْتُ شَيْئًا أَشْبَهَ بِاللَّمَمِ مِمَّا قَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَتَبَ عَلَى ابْنِ آدَمَ حَظَّهُ مِنَ الزِّنَى أَدْرَكَ ذَلِكَ لاَ مَحَالَةَ فَزِنَى الْعَيْنَيْنِ النَّظَرُ وَزِنَى اللِّسَانِ النُّطْقُ وَالنَّفْسُ تَمَنَّى وَتَشْتَهِي وَالْفَرْجُ يُصَدِّقُ ذَلِكَ أَوْ يُكَذِّبُهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ عَبْدٌ فِي رِوَايَتِهِ ابْنِ طَاوُسٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ سَمِعْتُ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ ‏.‏

How?

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BAILMONEY:
Nobody dey craze here bruh, I am just being rational. Islam didn’t start with Prophet Muhammad. Islam means submission to one God, and all prophets, Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, preached the same message.
Judaism started later with Abraham and Zoroastrianism came with Zarathustra. So Islam is older

You claim Abraham preached the same message as all the prophets "submission to one God", and at once stated "he started Judaism". Can you see the contradiction? If Aam was a muslim, and he came before Abraham, who prached the same message, why did Abraham introduce Judaism

Not to mention the revealed God of Judaism was not known as allah, yet islam claims Abraham was on of it's prophets - one has to convolute in an attempt to make islamic claims stick or even plausible.


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IjeBos:
Yes, speaking to the guy who went to some of the best and most Competitive schools in the world.
Oga, go rest and focus on this deep insecurity you have that makes you dislike your own skin.

Succeeding in securing entry into one such school is quite notable. Several is highly commendable - very well done.
But, doesn't that make you a poster child for raumdeuter's argument? Taking it as read it was all on merit, not AA, quotas etc.


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Because I can't accept a god with no name, who has never spoken or revealed himself to mankind. Or a profit with no provenance or lineage. No prophecy, no foretelling and no witnesss. Or scriptures that a re copied, plagiarised, fabricated, contradictory and a very hard read. Like kilode!

Come to the God of The Bible. The Living God. The everlasting God. Yahweh, The I am, that I am, in Whose image we are made. Who revealed Himself to His creation in Christ Jesus. How sweet the sound!


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BAILMONEY:
Samklef Is Actually Correct — Islam Is Older Than Christianity

No, it is not. There is no record of islam before the 8th century. No historical records, no artefacts, no mention of Mecca, nothing. Nada, zero, zilch.

BAILMONEY:
Many people are attacking Samklef for saying Islam is older than Christianity, but if you understand Islamic teachings, what he said is not wrong.

Islamic teachings are all bogus assertions, false claims, contrived narratives, fables, just-so-stories, tales by moonlight and lies. And lots of copy, copy

BAILMONEY:
In Islam, the religion did not start with Prophet Muhammad. Islam means submission to the will of God, and Muslims believe that all prophets from the beginning preached the same message worship one God.

No one worshipped a diety called allah before the 7th century.

BAILMONEY:
Prophets like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus Christ are all considered Muslims in the sense that they submitted to one God.

Till this day, many worship one God and are not muslims. The Jews (whose prophets you are trying to steal) worshipped one God - and his name was not allah.

BAILMONEY:
Even Jesus Christ himself preached the worship of one God.

As above

BAILMONEY:
The religion called Christianity developed later after his time.

Yes now, but still before the worship of allah and islam

BAILMONEY:
So from the Islamic perspective, Islam is the original message of monotheism that existed long before Christianity as an organized religion.

Said perspective is skewed and based on falsehood.

BAILMONEY:
People may disagree, but Samklef’s statement reflects what Islam teaches that the message of submission to one God existed from the time of the earliest prophets.

islam is reaching - unsuccessfully.


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vedaxcool:
The Munafiqoons, Zalimuns, Kuffars And Taghautoons kill a man we may as well describe as the last Muslim Leader in the West Asia, a man with uncommon decency and faith. May Allah accept his martyrdom and grant him al jannatul firdus.

A believer who deceased tens of thousands of his own citizens is considered decent and a mar tar? The one who "accepts him as a mar tar" cannot be god.


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Because I cannot adopt a faith that cannot name one good thing that humanity wouldn't have if that faith did not exist, but from which result numerous societal ills.


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Because I can't adopt faith where the national leader of that faith, in a country ruled by that faith, can end the lives of tens of thousands of his own citizens and be considered a martyr.


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Innocence is by definition.
The religion makes every non-adherent "guilty" by default.

Here's an example - capital punishment is the sentence for insulting the profit. Yet, it is considered an insult not to accept him as a profit. Ergo, a non-believer (especially if they have been given daar.waar) is already guilty and therefore under a perennial deaf sentence.


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How far, hope all's well with the young ladies? My own is determined to ruin my credit rating .

LordReed:
Hey there!

Yeah I guess the context is the US.

Even then...


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LordReed:
The relationship between people of differing skin colours is forever tainted by the history of slavery. But it is particularly sad to see that those who hold on to the expired notion are still held in high regard by the very people they despise. It is like hearing fingernail scratches on a chalkboard to my brain.

Hello, long time.

Don't you think this should be at least contextualised? It is quite broadly cast and easily falsifiable. It could just as easily be read as a reflection of prejudice on your part. Could you defend this position if challenged?


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Because I love life - and see no reason to swap the love of life for the love of death.

Death is it's raison d'etre, it's prime imperative and charge, it's leitmotif. What it endures for, loves, craves and celebrates. Death, death, death. Death by sword, by decapitation, by stoning. Death, death, death. Death by car, by bomb by knife, whatever!

Death for dis-believing, death for not believing, death for discontinuing to believe, death for believing differently. Death for blasphemy, death for insults, death for mockery.

Death with each and every empire, every iteration, every instance. With the umayyad, the abbassid, the ottoman, the mughal and the safavid. Death to this day, be it saudi arabia, iran, isis, boko-haram, lakawura, iswap, al-sha whatchamacallit.

Death in the middle-east. Death in the horn of, the north, the west and eastern Africa. Death in the Iberian peninsula, death in Asia. Death in Anatolia. the Caucasus, the Balkans and eastern Europe. Death in Asia, death in Europe and death in north America (and lately Australia - Bondi beach). Death everywhere.

Death of reason, death of progress and advance, death of liberty. Death then and death now. Death in every which way.

Come to Christ, who gives life, life more abundant and life eternal!


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Because I love marriage - the beautiful and honourable institution God our Father and Creator bestowed on mankind.

I can't accept that it takes marriage and, profanes and traduces this precious gift from our Maker. Marriage is wonderfully designed and glorious in it's simplicity and rightful outworking.

One man, one woman, lifelong and monogamous. Between two of age, mature and mentally sound. Not too closely related. A relationship for flourishing, mutual love and affection, and the best vehicle for raising children.

It violates marriage in every which way. Firstly, the couple and fidelity principles by introducing the s3csual an social perversion of polygamy. It besmirches the lifelong principle by embedding divorce - ridiculously easy and one-sided.

It at once eliminates consent, and rubbishes maturity, euphemistically categorising secsual violation of prepubescent girls as marriage - too young to consent or be mature enough for the marital estate. It labels violence, assault and violation as marriage.

It encourages cousin marriage, failing to understand the wisdom behind the cautions against consanguineous unions. It takes a covenant and reduces it to a transaction. It makes the sacramental sacrilegious. And the cherry on top - it still has room for secks slaves.

Oh, and I neglected to mention the sneaky formalisation of FWB aka contractual adultery aka mutah, aka misyar. Unacceptable by anyone who understands God's will for holy matrimony.


Let me leave the effects on any offspring. IMHO, one has to not have a mature mind, integrity or wisdom to accept it.


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Because I love people and yearn for the prosperity and well-being of mankind. I hate anything that is inherently misanthropic and embeds, rather that eliminates societal pathologies. Anything that gives rise to notions that are barbaric and dark, hating critical thinking, scientific rigour and technological advancement.

That's why I love Christ and Christianity, which progressively ended internecine wars, slavery, child labour, child marriage and cousin marriage. Which engendered public hygiene, universal healthcare and welfare reforms. Notions of interpersonal goodwill and commonwealth. Which is the basis for high-trust societies, rational enquiry, empirical research and innovation. Which is why all the major scientific progress mankind has experience comes from historically Christian nations - even post-Christian nations do miles better and are still way ahead.

How can I personally accept something that,
...makes VVF endemic by default https://www.nairaland.com/8349907/notable-women-early-marriages-bible#134323939
...can't figure out cousin marriage https://brilliantmaps.com/consanguineous-marriage/
...a man can legally marry his own biological daughter
...ended adoption to introduce incest
...has no objective morality or even basic ethics
...is utterly controlling and baulks at freedom of expression
...cannot stomach difference or plurality
...hates the arts and music, learning and enlightenment more generally
...is not backed by prophecy, is ahistorical and anti-science and who's outworking is only death and destruction
...is totaliatian and totalising
...breeds rampant ethno and sectarian supremacists
...has never created anything but wants to rule everything
...can never lead to flourishing, prosperity or advancement - quite the opposite, regressive, backward, benighted, poverty-inducing
...is aptly represented by Afganistan and Somalia

Life in Christ - abundant and eternal - is offered freely, on a platter, why would I choose death


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Because I love women and see them as equal in worth to men, and essential to human flourishing. Therefore, I do not believe that

...women should be treated as chattel by men
...that it's manly or godly for a man to patrol schools with semi-automatic weapons to ensure little girls do not receive an education
...policing women to the point of death on account of "hair-covering" is a credible vocation or way to serve our creator
...there is anything honourable about honour killing
...or customary eff gee hem
...s3cs slavery is a ok!
...multiple wives for one man engenders social flourishing
..women should have zero agency or be forced to wear tents
...that women need a chaperone or permission to step out, travel or even drive
...that the sentence for ray ape should be the victims brother committing same to the perpetrators sister
...that if a woman cannot produce 4 male witessess to ray ape, she can be stoned to death for adultery
...domestic violence should be codified into law or considered as a customary right for males
...that marriage is a euphemism for the gross s3csual violation of pre-pubescent girls

and so on and so forth...to any reasonable and right-thinking person any 1, or 2 at most, of the above should be reason enough. But other reasons are it's morality-eroding and critical thinking reducing features!


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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xW9rhmcTALU
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nK6D9OnTBi4

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nK6D9OnTBi4


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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nK6D9OnTBi4


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DropsMic:
You’re still being disingenuous, just like the typical Nigerian politician. I sincerely hope God changes your soul so you can speak the truth plainly instead of twisting words and rambling because you feel obligated to. Ciao

Show us one Jewish or Christian group, community or nation that follows or imposes OT laws, or seeks to impose them on others. Or one that legalises violence and slavery, or codifies a caste system into its jurisprudence.


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^{ps. Christianity does not oblige, impose or force - unlike you know which religion}

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nK6D9OnTBi4

DropsMic:
Why didn't you just ask me to show you where such things are in the Bible ? Why ask about just the New Testament?? Is the Old Testament not part of the Bible?? Why are you being disingenuous?? What do you stand to gain from denying what is in your own holy book

Please return to the mic. But before you utter a word, listen and understand.

The Old Testament is not prescriptive or binding on Christians. It is specifically the history of, and the law given by God to the Israelite nation. To be used and applied only by them and whoever voluntarily chose to live amongst them - for that time. Not to be forcibly imposed on any other peoples or nations.

Christians believe the fullness of God's revelation is in Christ and has been fully outlined in the New Testament. The OT and any assciated laws are no longer applicable. No one is denying the OT, we just don't live by it. Neither d the Jews, as evidenced by their technologically advanced, progressive and liberal society.

Please show us any other faith, religion or ideology that can match the progress and advancement inherent in Judeo-Christianity.


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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nK6D9OnTBi4

Let's see, It all in there - codified violence against women, slavery, class based judicial & societal tiering,(caste system). Not too mention the usual absurdities like jail time for "incorrectly "trimming a beard. And this is just the beginning, mark my words, it will get worse.

Which ideology is it that inverts morals, erodes clear and logical thinking, and has no notion of civil rights, personal liberties or individual freedoms. All roads leading to dehumanisation and death.


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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nK6D9OnTBi4

honesttalk21:
Three bans indicate a pattern of behavior rather than moderator bias. Every platform has its rules, and repeated violations lead to consequences. Harshness does not equal censorship; it reflects the enforcement of standards in this space that everyone has agreed upon directly or covertly by continuous use of the platform.

If you feel the moderation is unfair; review the actual rules, compare your posts with the standards or appeal through the appropriate channels should you so strongly feel violated.

For fulll disclosure, why not reveal your moderator status? ROPers want to play and ref - yet they still lose . How were you able to quote a post hidden 2 days ago? It's actually 8 bans


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