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ogb5:
It actually good to see a Northerner say the simple truth. Most rather keep a blind eye to the truth.

You seem not to realise that the ijaws are the ones who suffer most among the list of oil producers you have mentioned.
The others could atleast farm their land, and they could take their sick to a hospital within a day, even if it means going to lagos for treatment. The Ijaws can't do that. They have no land to farm, no roads to drive on. Before criticising, note that am not Ijaw.

Going regional is the best thing at this moment. Most of the states are not viable economically, grouping 6 states into regions that can pool funds together will help. 
But someone needs to tell the Northerners to sit up. No nation grows by having over 50% of its population deliberately not contributing anything and being supported by others.

I do understand the plight of the Ijaw but they make their situation worse for them by relying on hateful men like Edwin Clark to be their spokes person aka leader and that is why Igbo, Ibibios, Efiks, etc have kind of backed away to let them carry on as they like. His ungratefulness and lack of diplomacy in his tactics when dealing with other ethnicities is his biggest weakness. So until they learn to fight the battle like its not just theirs then people will see things different.

The reason why I'm saying this is that I noticed that a lot of times when u engage the Ijaw man in some conversation they always say crap like "You Igbos want our oil" I mean like seriously Igbos have abundant oil and really don't give a crap about it. We'll rather spend time in school. Some even got nerves to say that Ibibios and Efiks have no oil so they should not talk at all or what about the ones that hate the fact that Abia and Imo are part of ND. What about Igbos in Rivers. The Delta Igbos don't have any rosy relationship with them also. Such attitudes are reason why the whole battle has been left for them to do. They cannot win without integrating with their neighbors so until they learn that no Southerner gives a damn about their oil and are genuinely in support of their fight for justice things are not going to get any better.

The Northerners are a lazy bunch. They have the potential to make it on their own but they are not ready for the hard work so they rely on oil from the SS and SE.

A regional set up will be the best thing so that all regions can grow at their own pace and not blame anyone for their failures but if they are not ready to accept that then its time to dissolve that unholy union.

Zhea:
a friend found some names on www

Girls:
Chisaro - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God answered me”
Chisaru - Ikwere of Nigeria, “God answered one”
Chiwendu - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God owns life”
Chizi - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God exists”
Ikechi - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “the power of God”
Ogechi - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God’s time”
Oriji - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “yam eater”
Orlunwere - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “second-born”
Oroma - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “good house”

Boys:
Amadioha - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “the god of thunder”
Chinyere - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God’s gift”
Chisaro - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God answered me”
Chisaru - Ikwere of Nigeria, “God answered one”
Chiwendu - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God owns life”
Chizi - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God exists”
Epara - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “first-born son”
Ogechi - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “God’s time”
Oriji - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “yam eater”
Orlu - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “second-born”
Orluesilaru - Ikwerre of Nigeria, “third-born”

A lot of those names are common in Enugu state. Chizi is the same as Chidi same meaning.
Chisaro ---Chizara, Chinaza,
Epara--Opara (Owerri) --Okpara (I think Enugu and Anambra)
Ikechi -- that is my uncles name and he is from Arochukwu


Even Okolo (Anioma-Igbo) is the same as Okoro (in other Igbo towns)

So yes there are names that are unique to each town like Elochukwu, Ezuma, which are Arochukwu names, Chizi, Okpobiri, which are Ikwere, etc and then the common names in all Igbo land (Ikwere, Awka, Enugu, Abakiliki, etc) are Chika, Chike, Chinedu, Obi, etc.

There is nothing so unique about Ikwere, Awka, Ukwuani, etc. Historically Igbos have always lived in scattered independent settlements and the lack of centralization has made it possible for us to develop our individual unique but related and similar cultures and traditions across Igbo land. LET US EMBRACE OUR DIVERSITY NOT DIVIDE OURSELVES FOR SOME FRUITLESS POLITICAL REASONS.

Ukwuani ppl bu Ndi Igbo. They are bonafide Igbos west of the Niger river. My blood cousins are from Asaba town in Anioma, Delta state and some from Rivers.
I understood what the guy wrote which is Igbo but of course I had a lil trouble with some words coz he is using pure Ukwuani dialect just like I could hardly understand Bende dialect until I took time to learn it. I am from Awka town and I can tell u there are some words that I cannot understand because I am not fluent in Awka dialect. My sister sometimes translates some Awka words for me. I grew up in Enugu town not Awka but I try to mix my Igbo up with different dialects, Ikwerre, Owerri, Awka, Arochukwu (my mom's ppl), Onitsha, Asaba, etc so sometimes fellow Igbos can't tell where I'm from. Some even think I am from Owerri but the truth is that I have only been to Owerri once as a baby.

If u say u are not Igbo fine please drop our Igbo names u stupid useless fake Igbo by convenience. It seems like u are still suffering from the horrors of the Biafra war.

Itsekiri and Yoruba ppl are practically the same people. I have an Itsekiri friend and Itsekiri is practically Yoruba. Same words same meaning. The word Itsekiri is pronounced "ISHEKIRI". The Yoruba name Sade is pronounced "Shade". Itsekiri ppl even attend Afenifere meetings. They are very smart in trying integrate their people with their larger cousins the Yorubas coz they are a majority and in Naija politics of numbers matters. The last time Ijaws messed with the Itsekiri Yoruba OPC came to their rescue.

Western, Eastern, Southern and Northern Igbos should learn from them.

Anyways Ndu Ukwuani ekelekwem unu ooo. Ukwuani kwezuonu, Rienu, Nwuonu. Umu Igbo nine na Rivers, Imo, Abia, Anambra, Delta, Edo, kwezuo nu. Ude diri ununcha. Chukwu, Obasi, Abasi, Chineke, gozie unu.

unless nigerians are so dumb and cannot think of ways to run an economy then nigeria will be worse without oil. nigeria can make it without oil economically but as a united nation hhhmmm it is then we will know who are true believers in one nigeria since there will be no more oil to rely on as an excuse to keep the british made nation one.

WOW for my 1st I see a Fulani person "Zylaxy" speaking the simple truth about Nigeria and its different people and cultures. Classic!!!!

Nigeria does not rely solely on so-called Ijaw oil. Ijaws are not the only people with oil for their backyard. Igbo, Ogoni, Efik/Ibibio, Urhobo, etc lands got oil wells but they are not screaming oil everyday or thinking that oil is the only way to make money. Abeg enough of the bulls**t.

Nigeria has never been ONE. The sooner we get that into our heads the better. I am for regional autonomy or total separation aka Freedom.

Their grievances are justified to an extent but they are not doing anything to uplift themselves. They are making worse for themselves especially by not getting any education soooooo ITS THEIR OWN FAULT NOW. QUIT BLAMING THE WHITE MAN.

Why are we complaining? HE DESERVED IT. THAT IS PART OF HIS JOB. IF YOU AINT DOING YOUR JOB U WILL GET DISGRACED. MORE GREASE TO THEIR ELBOWS.

LOVE IT.

Whether they fired her or not is none of my stinking business because unlike you guys I'm not hot and bothered over such trivial issues that do not affect my life. A nigga got bills to pay, school to attend and a job or source of income to keep so whether freaking gays marry or don't marry don't mean shit to me and it does not reduce or increase my paycheck neither does it affect my grades in school or the choices that I make for myself. Maybe I grew in a fairly liberal family that was religious but also believed in leaving people the heck alone to carry on about their business as long as it does not harm anyone. My brother, sister and I are probably the most liberal and don't give a hoot while my other sisters and 1 brother are more conservative and will support the lady's action. As for me I have worked in companies been around, been exposed enough to know that such issues ain't that freaking serious like some moral policemen and women try to make it.

You have a right to refuse service to a customer if they are been hostile to you not if they are gay or not. That's how I look at it. I don't give a damn. Just get your flaming happy ass to the damn counter, tell me your order or whatever. I'll perform my duty and off you go. When its time for me to go I'll go still confident and comfortable in my skin and who I am. When I do have my own company trust me you will perform your job irrespective of your religious affiliation and if you don't like how I conduct things man get your ass out of my sight so I can make me some money not lose customers + money because you are a religious muslim or christian, shango, olumba olumba, etc. If you need time to pray and consult Chineke I will grant you an appropriate time to do so because it your right and I myself is not a pagan and do pray to God myself but that is as far as I will go with religion in the work place. I know a pastor (mom's friend) that was working as Substitute Teacher while I was in High school and one day he saw one of my school mates (a female) wearing some skimpy clothes and he motioned the girl to come and started praying for her, speaking Spanish, Latin, Fulani, Ijaw, Umene, Zulu, Igbo aka SPEAKING IN TONGUES, saying the girl was demon possessed promiscuous and needed to change her way of dressing bla bla bla (FYI the girl left her parents house looking like that its the parent's job to deal with it not him a mere sub)
Well the girl thought that was weird and insulting so she reported him to the AP and Head Principal. He was called to office and told to not do such things or force his religious beliefs on anyone because not everyone is a Christian or even religious and he is not the parent. If the school district had issues about the girl they knew what to do with her to change not him. The man refused and vowed he will do it again. WELL HE GOT FIRED QUICKER THAN HE GOT THE JOB. END OF STORY.

Even my mother who is very religious and believes in God, will slap me silly if I dared refuse to go to church as a kid thought he was a fool and unprofessional for that. Just be a professional and keep your religious beliefs to yourself and out of the work place because not everyone is going to share urs and yes you will encounter people u deem nasty but you still put up a front and act like its nothing. Each company or institution got its own laws to which you have to obey.

I AGREE if they had the option to go to another registrar that was available right there, (no be like say she sealed off their last hope of getting married jare) then oh well they should have kept it trucking to the next one  but YES ME THINX THE HOLY NWEJE SHOULD HAVE JUST DONE THE DAMN JOB AND MOVED ON. She could have been just professional did her job, go home and pray for them if that is what she want. ITS A DAMN JOB BY THE END OF THE DAY. GOD GO UNDERSTAND. No Kwanta


Anyways this going to probably be my last post on this topic because I have other important things to worry about in life. I have made my points agreed and disagreed and u aint fitna change how I feel about it. Peace out.

Akachalam

lol @ Romeo. Cheiiiii e-destruction na dis one oooo.

Sagamite:
You compromise once and you find yourself keep on compromising.

See my arguments (Post 19) on this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=134573.msg2269021#msg2269021

Also you are wrong. When she took up the job, she was not required to marry man and man. They changed the law after she was already 15 years into her job and tried to force her to perform actions that is against the fundamentals of her religious beliefs. She requested to be exempted and let someone that is willing do the job do it. The work is based on allocation, the employers could have easily implemented the request without disruption but did not.

When the government fooled people (remember majority of the public in any part of the world is shallow brained) to accept (what is in all except name) marriages between same sexes under the guise of "civil patnership", they should also have introduced institutions that would perform the functions seperately from the existing institutions meant for marriage.

My reply to David also applies to you. As for government creating separate institutions for that I really don't see the difference after all they are still accepting the lifestyle but yeah maybe that will minimize conflict but then do you think they might be willing to spend money creating new building, institutions and such just because of a minority group. Is like creating a court for blacks in the US that are only 13% of population now compare to like IDK gay, bisexuals, that are probably less than 5%.
Economically not very wise.

That is simply not true. Reverse psychologists try to claim the victim position by accusing those opposed to gay marriage as "imposing their religious beliefs" on others. The REAL truth is that it is gay proponents who are imposing their own unnatural
lifestyle on society.
Gay marriages was not part of her job description when she was hired so why force her to do so?

Suppose bestial marriages became "the law"? Would she be forced to wed a man and his dog too?

[quote][/quote]I am not going to waste my energy arguing whether gay marriage is right or not and all the religious bruhaha that comes with it coz I already stated that I do not support it but  believe in a compromise was set up which is Gay Union. Reason why such people are not moving the hell on and shutting up after all they already got Gay Union that guarantees that they get benefits (jobs) from their spouses just like we straight ones do is what I don't understand. To get benefits from another person be it spouse or BF / GF has nothing to do with religious beliefs coz I haven't seen or heard anywhere in the Bible where 401ks, wages, healthcare, insurance, joint accounts of any sort, etc were discussed so to me its nothing but man made stuff that can be modified to best serve the society.

Anyways whether it was not the law or not before she got the job does not erase the fact that now it is the law of the land and there ain't a damn thing you and I can do about it to stop it. If she was employed by the government and the government changed the laws later she still has the obligation to obey and perform the job which requires her marry to "gays". If its something she can't handle coz of her religious or conservative upbringing then she can quit the job or better fly back to Nigeria since Britain is obviously changing and accepting that type of lifestyle. If it was her own business or company then she can do as she pleases or even slam the door at any queer looking person she sees but if the government employed her put such marriages into law then do it. Its your job do it or quit it. May be I am just the liberal type and don't take such issues that have no effect in my life seriously. I worked in a pet store with a store manager that was bisexual ass hell, some employees that were gay and some of the customers that came there were also gay but hey you still had to do your damn job and answer yes ma'am or sir to all the customers (white, black, trans, stupid, dumb, immature, nasty, etc). The company didn't give a shit about your religious beliefs or what you thought was right or wrong. Don't do it and u might as well go get another job.

I am looking at this in a more professional / business point. Its like getting a job at an adult movie store or even a movie store like BlockBuster (which I worked at n Highschool) and you decide to not rent some gay theme videos to customers coz you didn't want to participate in the spread or promotion of the lifestyle. The company who sanctioned such videos to be sold or rented to people would sack or write you up. They want to make their money and you are going to be bad business for them. Its simple. Obey the rules of whoever employed ur ass and if you can't well quit or maybe try to change if they'll let you and if u succeed then more grease to your elbow. I don't really give a rat's ass. My views simple.

LMAO dis is sick.

To Usman Dan Fodio,
You have a right to air your views or even support your murderous people aka Hausa/Fulani Northerners but to come here and spread your stupid lies is unacceptable.
Please tell us where u got the story about Hausa people getting killed everyday in Onicha by MASSOB members. If you want to say something please come with facts not with your lies to justify the killing of an innocent man by your murder-happy people. Please go tell your barbaric people that its 2008 not 1408. Enough of your Hausa/Fulani madness.

The reckless killing of Igbos has from what I see become a ritual or sports in the North. You have gotten so used to it that its simply normal. Why the hell should Igbos, Ibibio, Efiks or any non-muslim complain? I blame the Igbos and Southerners who still go back to such places when u animals have proven time to time that you are wild and untamed. You attack with out thinking. It is stories like this that makes non-Africans think we are still uncivilized when its the fault of uneducated murderous criminally minded people like your people that messing up our image.

Leave the Niger-deltans out of this. In as much as I think that their current so called freedom fighters in the creeks are nothing but a bunch of hooligans I'll rather stay with them than deal with your people who possess very out-of -control untamed animal instinct and can't do nada but slaughter fellow human-beings at the slightest provocation.

Get da hell out of here and educate your hopeless people.

It is a known fact that Chinese people (not all) do not like black people so what do expect them to do to you in their own country.
But we let them come to African countries, open up businesses, support countries like Sudan against the Southern Black Sudanese. Time to kick their dusty asses out da way.

I blame the Nigerian government squarely. If they did not Bleep up that country no damn Chinese man will get a chance to mistreat our people in China.

I am not in support of Gay Marriage but Union is better compromise to me. But anyway the whole issue does not concern or affect me anyway. Wetin concern with what they do.
As for the lady in question I think she was imposing her religious beliefs on them by refusing to the job which she voluntarily took that requires her to marry people including gay people so if it was too bad for her to do well she ought not to do that kind of job in a country that supports such marriages. She did go against their right to marry in a country that supports it. Its very simple its the law. Its the same thing as a Sharia crazed Hausa man refusing to sell you beer in super-market because of his Musiim beliefs even though his own boss or owner of the store is the one that bought the beer and employed him as a cashier and the Secular government has no law barring grown men and women from buying alcohol.

Simple logic to me.

I hope it is true. Now what will Britain do about this? Bout time they realize that people have the right to self-determination.

I will like to learn tho I am neither from Awkaibom or Cross Rivers.
I tried before but my Ibibio co-worker got fired my mom's friend who is Ibibio was to busy for all that.

Ikwere names are simply Igbo names. Enough all this nkewa self-hatred going on please.

Chizi, Odili (my 2nd name), Chimso, Amadi, Chika, Okpobiri, Obiageli, Okolo, Okoro, Ofili, Obi, Ratamma, Uche, Chidi, Amaechi, Soludo, Kamarachukwu, Obasi, Ede, Elochukwu,are all Igbo (Ikwere) names but sometimes are more common in some areas than other areas depending on the dialect.

Sometimes people make the assumption that I am from Rivers state coz my name is Odili. I only have relatives from Rivers and yes also my Arochukwu aka Aro-Ikwere people there.

My name Udezue to the common Enugu man if u put in a sentence like this "Ka Udezue" means "Let there be enough lotion / body oil" or "lotion in abundance"
To the Awka man who knows the meaning it is "let there be enough PEACE" 

UDE in Awka and surrounding areas and UDO in other Igbo places mean the the same thing "PEACE".

In Arochukwu there areas that say Obasi and other areas closer to Akwaibom --Efik-Ibibios say Abasi and they all mean God. Chukwu also means God in Arochukwu.
Ofong, Inyang, Archibong are all common names in Arochukwu, Abiriba, Ohafia areas but they still say we are Igbos not Arochukwu just because of some dialectical differences and non-typical or Igbo-like names some of them have. I am part Aro and Awka. Even I used to not understand Awka dialect and Arochukwu / Ajali dialect still sound foreign to me but hey I am learning fast and using their own terms. Elochukwu is simply an Aro / Ajali name but it is still Igbo an name

Okolo is the same as Okoro but Okolo is more common in Delta state and even in Amaobia and Awka areas.

BTN they are all Igbos and are related to each other and some of the names are going to be very different. I must admit some names in Ikwere land also sound non Igbo to me.

Stupidity at its best. LMAO
How can u force yourself into a bank to participate in a test with your AK 47s?

Igbos really need to start investing heavily no matter what in our region, Asaba, Delta, Enugu, Anambara, Ebonyi, Imo, Rivers, Egbanke areas of Edo, Abia, Akwaibom, Cross Rivers, etc and let these desert rats to rot in their barbarity for God's sake.

I think the fairest thing to do is to make our land equally unlivable for them so they will understand well well that no one  has a monopoly on violence. Enough of all this nonsense. Nigeria is nothing but a mere geographical expression and the Northern Hausa/Fulani people have proven that time to time. Reason why the fools in the so-called South haven't come to terms with this is what really baffles me.

The same thing they did with Biafrans during our war of survival against the Nigerian government. The last time I checked it was some non-Igbo Niger-delta leaders and even some Igbos Niger-deltans and the ones from non-Niger Delta area like Saro Wiwa, Adaka Boro, Elechi Amadi etc. that supported British genocide against the own region and people just because of their rabid unjustifiable hatred towards the majority Igbos and Biafra. Its crazy how these men blinded stupidly by hate sold off their own region just to get smacked silly by the same people who they called friends. Britain and Nigeria.