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Topper33:
Hi Guys...

Please I need your help with a couple of thoughts:

My budget is 800k and I would like to get an Inverter setup. At the moment, my landlord does not permit Panel installment on his roof so I am stuck with just the grid.

Please honestly, what can I get with this budget interms of LiFePO4 inverter and battery setup solely being charged from the grid(for now)

You thoughts and honest recommendations would be highly appreciated

I am open to suggestions..

Thanks FAM

What is your load profile like?

With this budget, bearing in mind long back up time, I'll recommend;

12v Hiasic 1.5kw hybrid inverter,
A 4kwh lithium battery from Valto @499k or Mrreed (no idea of the price).

Contact them for enquiries

hoover420:
Boss, how good is this deal and is it better compared to the likes of haisic batteries?

That's a 12v battery.

Valto:
12v 4.2kwh with Jk smart bms 499k

@ codemaster2much see sweet deal for you.

osayuwamwen:
The whole thing just tire me borehole is the reason I spend this much on solar, the inverter carry my induction cooking and the cooker is about 1500watt but it showing it pulling 1.7kw for the inverter side na 1500watt I take they reason 1.5hpower submersible pump thinking say with surge say nor suppose pass 4500watt and my inverter get 2x surge rating

4.2kva is equivalent to 3.3kw... The depth of your bore hole is also a huge factor because the deeper it goes, the more amperage it requires to overcome the pressure. So yes 1.5hp can pull as much as 3kw and more.

Itzlinda:
Please what will you advise someone with a budget of 500k. My loads are just 3 fans, 7 bulbs and laptop. And mobile phones

Get an Itel Powertank with a 500-550watts panel. Get an installer to mount it. It will power ur full house and with ur load give 24/7 electricity.

Speaking from personal experience.

henryutd:
Good Morning House,
Please am I the only person experiencing network downtime on this ODU device?
Are there solutions to this network problem? It will work well a day and the next two days will be a disaster.
I am tired.

Contact Airtel on X. Tell them it's a general issue with your location.

Alternatively try the band lock and unlock thing..

HIGHESTPOPORI:
The people here don't like solar generators but some of us prefer it cos of it's portability.The Hithium solar generator have very good reviews on Jumia,just pair it with two 450 watts panel for fast charging,it also charges full in 2hrs with Nepa.

That's not true. It depends on ask. More information is given here especially on a better value for money deal compared to what you may have heard. At the end the decision is still yours to make.

Solar gens are not really value for money, unless portability is a major factor for you.

Another factor opinions are heavily based on is user experience, support and future upgrades.

bassdow:
Just so you know; I buy and use Lithium based batteries for most clients. Have even bought directly (myself) and inDirectly (pointing the client) from the likes of @valto and @mrReed though they hardly would know because me no dey introduce. BUT persoanlly, still uses both Tubular and SLA batteries for various reasons.

BUT it's bad blindly doing something without knowing why you following such route. My major issue with Lithium based batteries is, it's easier to deceive the customer.

Marketers keep advertising and telling you Lithium batteries has 90% to 95% Dept of Discharge hence is better than Tubular batteries which is 50% Dept of Discharge BUT what they fail to inform you of is, running your Lithium based batteries to such length wouldn't allow it last that many Cycles and years they promised you.

Compare 3 lithium batteries of same brand, same load, same quality charger, same user BUT 1st is ran at 50% DOD, the 2nd at 70% DOD, and the 3rd at 90% DOD. You need not be told the one at 90% DOD would fail first, followed by the one at 70% DOD, and lastly the one at 50% DOD.

That's if your Lithium battery is of a quality brand to begin with.

They mostly tell you what you wanna hear.

I would say, Lithium is better BUT only if DONE right else you just wasting money. Have read of tubular and leadAcid batteries lasting as much as 8 to 10 years and personally, have clients who have used theirs for over 5-years and counting.

Another thing wey dey kill battery na team 24v 5kva inverters; and those who buy 200AH battery when they actually needed 400AH.

Hybrid inverters which prioritize Solar panels as source would actually save battery more than those that doesn't. Funny enough, not all hybrid inverters have such feature. Most go for Hybrid to avoid paying for Charge Controller, not for said feature.

Good Morning

Bro you're not getting it. There's no deception there. At 95% discharge that gives about 3,000 cycles for the average lithium battery. This translates to 8yrz of everyday cycling at the end of which you'll lose about 20% capacity. It’s just by far a superior technology and even same price as Tubular or sometimes cheaper. Seriously take your time and look into it. I am sure if you do, you'll stop recommending LA in this modern age.

Good morning.

K94Q:
how can i reach Dam5rey

Search Solaris surge on tiktok

bassdow:
rarely do I run any of mine up to 50% but there's a special installation which is allowed to be drained as low as 50% and sometimes 48% and they always get 100% filled before 1pm daily except on rare occassions where the sun is on [maternity] leave.

if using NEPA or charger of low capacity, then it's understandable. That doesn't mean if there were to be a competition of "Who gets filled first" a between 300AH Lithium based battery and a 200AH leadAcid based battery; that Lithium wouldn't come out as winner.

BUT let's try to at least not overPlay it.

With lithium you can safely charge at 1C o. The both cannot be compared bro.

Let me say this again. When it comes to network connectivity, the router you're getting won't make any difference as long as speed is capped at 50mbps. So it doesn't matter which one you're getting.

For real life use, what you should be looking out for is battery back up.

They're all premium routers but at 50mbps that's just about it. Nothing more than the average Airtel 4G box.

bassdow:
unfortunately, if that battery is a genuine Quality one, it's much better than lots of Lithium based batteries in the market. He just need ensure the electrolyte level never goes lower than necessary.

The person who did that instal ought to have helped to not allow the battery occupy space much e.g placing them side by side or on top of each other in a way they remain safe.

meanWhile, haven't given up on the idea of building a custom inverter system that works Solar first, battery second. Have itemize all that's required. na time and money remain. This approach drops stress on batteries to a minimum especially during the day

How can you tell a genuine LA battery compared to Lithium? For instance majority of the popular Lithium brands available have been tested independently (Go check YouTube, tiktok an other social media platforms) & these data are freely available online so you know what you're getting.

In fact you are more likely to get rubbish with LA 10x than going for harvested grade b lithium batteries. Dammy did capacity test for the lithium battery pack he used for 4 years and only lost about 4ah per year. Video is available on YouTube.

The time for LA is gone, do more research and embrace the new & superior technology. Lithium batteries have come to solve the shortcomings of LA & the beauty of it is they're getting cheaper everyday.

As for your last line, that feature is already available on hybrid inverters.

hoover420:
Thanks very much. I think I’ll just check him out and see if he can do house installation too.
Do you say this would be enough for the load i want to carry?

Yes. That's what was recommended to you. But also ask him price of the all in one unit. I think with that you get to save on wire from inverter to battery.

hoover420:
Okay, I think I’ll go for the Haisic 12v 1.5kva/4kwh all in one system, I prefer that. Thanks

Grt option.

hoover420:
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the response. Are you saying instead of going for the ecoflow, I can just go for the 1.5kva inverter and 4kwh lithium battery? Which will be a total of 650k exceeding solar panels?

Yes.
Haisic 12v 1.5kva
Haisic 12v 4kwh lithium battery or contact Mrreed for his build, high quality too.

There's also a Haisic 12v 1.5kva/4kwh all in one system too. I think 650k or more, contact Dam5rey for quote. These are far better deals for your budget.

hoover420:
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the response. Are you saying instead of going for the ecoflow, I can just go for the 1.5kva inverter and 4kwh lithium battery? Which will be a total of 650k exceeding solar panels?

Yes. By far a better deal.

hoover420:
I intend getting the itel power tank (if truly recommended) in any itel outlet around me since I reside in Lagos so it should be a little cheaper. Also do you think I should go for this itel or the ecoflow? Then I can pair them with the Jinko 535w?
This is the specification of the freezer below
(105w)

Although the ecoflow has less battery, it has a more capable inverter that can power your freezer. What you should be looking out for is the max pv input for the ecoflow.

When it comes to freezers initial surge is usually high and can go up to 800w. If that is the case with yours then the powertank won't serve you with that freezer because the inverter is 500w max.

But with 600k for the ecoflow, u can get a 1.5kva 12v hybrid (200k) inverter and a 4kwh lithium battery at 450k which is by far a much better deal.

hoover420:
Good day, guys. I’m glad I finally found this solar interactive section. I’m kinda new to solar systems, but I’m currently in a dilemma. I need a solar system that can power just my 55-inch TV, small freezer, and one standing fan. My budget is 500k, but some people are suggesting the Itel Power Tank and EcoFlow River Max for me. I don’t want to rush into getting them only to regret it later. A response would be appreciated.

Small freezer? What is the starting surge? The Itel power tank is a great option however it won't power a deep freezer due to initial startup surge. So try and get info on the power rating of ur freezer. Mind you, you have no problem for a regular refrigerator.

The current price on Jumia is outrageous, got mine at #304k from itel solar dot com. Visit the site and chat them up.

Pair the power tank with jinko 535w bifacial panel and you should have power 24/7 with ur budget and load.

Why are you guys stressing about getting Wifi 7 and Wifi 6 when speed is capped at 50mbps 😂. For me what is most important is battery back up. Even the most basic router can serve at 50mbps.

fuckboys:
yes i know. I need guidance now. The replacement fans can't handle this job.

I've coupled everything back with the old fan pending new ideas.

When coupled with the old fan does it resume working as usual?

Never mind I just saw your answer to someone.
One thing I can say is this, even brushless fans make a bit of noise too, if your space is kind of enclosed then you cant totally do away with fan noise

MrSuama:
Good evening learned fellows, I am having serious challenges choosing the best ODU device.
My intention is to serve at least 300 persons at a go. And I know the ODU can only allow 64 connections at a go.
Below are my challenges
1. Which of the ODU is best so far?
2. If 64 connections are on the ODU simultaneously, would speed be drastically affected?
3. Can I aggregate two or more ODU with a WiFi extender to meet my target of 300 connections?

I am free to suggestions and contributions.
Thanks

Even if you could connect 300 people at a go, at 1gb per person a day is 300gbs which means you're likely hitting the 1Tb threshold in about 3 days.

This is very impractical and you need to seriously review your model. Even 1 starlink plus extender won't give you the best experience if 300 people are connected at once.

WhiteAngels001:
Please I have two questions;

Does it really full by 1pm? What if you're using it while charging m

If it's full and there's no sun again, and I plug my itel power go (that's the new 100k power bank) to charge it, plus my laptop and fan of 30w, can it still last throughout the night?

Yes it will.

cyif2003:
12v..... Takes almost a whole day of light to charge my tubular battery

Ok.

Doris4ever:
I have a 2000w inverter and charger.
So I need a battery pack to work with it.
The options I have gotten so far is

1. 12V 104ah lithium ion battery - N185,000
2. 12V 100ah Lifepo4 battery - N203,700

Which is advisable I go for.

Lifepo4, no second guessing.

cyif2003:
It's a 900watts sukam inverter. I can even monitor d battery health or supply. It's this old skool inverter..

12 or 24v?

cyif2003:
Which brand of 3.6kwh do u advise. And price range

Deriy (Contact Dam5rey for price)

Mrreed contact him for price

Valto, contact him for price

cyif2003:
Which means I will have go either get anoda inverter which has a charge controller or buy charge controller.

If your inverter is sufficient for your needs then get a charge controller.

cyif2003:
Good day bro. I currently use 1 tubular battery without a panel. And light now days hardly comes.... I am seriously thinking of porting to this itel 500w/1kwh system... Byt I need ur advice based on my load. During d day we use
1 60inch LED TV
One standing fan of 40watts and 1 celing fan.
An l.g inverter fridge.
Few led bulb.

At night
2 led bulbs
1 celing fan
1 standing fan
1 tv which will b turned off before midnight pls can the system work for me..
I am considering it kus it's an all in one unit( based on battery and inverter).

Anoda option is to buy cworth 3.2kwh lithium battery and den add panels and charge controller to it. Pls advice

Hi good day. Sure it will work but if you have the option of going for the 3.6kwh battery I'll recommend that.

The powertank is not expandable and is only recommended in extreme low budget situation & for small businesses.

bassdow:
to me, issue isn't if it works BUT for how long. Durability matters a lot to my kind.

That guy probably works from home. if na before, I for don begin share how to run 90% of his load without inverter BUT person time dey decline as they age.

Yes you're right. We'll see as time goes by. My only major concern is the rainy season. If one panel can manage to charge full. But we'll see how it goes.

Gshems:
baba it is not practical

Baba it is very practical lol.
I installed this stuff for mumsy last week.
Load includes home theater, TV, The smaller 18 inches industrial fan, phone and lights in a 2 bedroom flat and we still wake up with atleast 40% the next day 😂.

It's all about usage my bro. The major loads go off by 10p.m atleast. Left with rechargeable fan and outside lights and maybe phone charging some nights.

This stuff charges fast even with 1 535w bifacial panel. There's zero grid in the location for now so it's 100% solar.

rapheal5:
Jinko 550W solar panel is not a perfect or recommended match for the standard itel Power Tank (1000Wh/500W model, IESS-05K10N) due to voltage incompatibility. The maximum panel for it is 400w

The max voltage range for the powertank is 60v, the 550w panel is not up to 60v.
Max current is 13.5 amps. Can handle 13.7 amps too (535w bifacial)

Comes with an mppt charge controller, so yes it clips the excess current 0.2 which is negligible.

capnies:
ARE YOU SAYING 1KWH BATTERY AND 300W INVERTER CAN HANFLE THEOSE ITEMS HE LISTED?

ONLY THE TV IS ABOUT 100W
OX FAN 18" ABOVE 90W
2 RECHARGEABLE FANS MORE THAN 100W

ARE YOU LOOKING AT HIS BUDGET OR TELLING HIM WHATS ON GROUND

LET HIM ADD HIS TOTAL LOAD WATTAGE AND SEE THE POSSIBILITY

It's a 500w inverter.
Telling him considering budget and load. The Itel Power tank can handle his loads quite perfectly if properly managed.

He won't be using all loads at same time you know. From personal experience it will serve well. You can even add a fridge to this load and use mostly during day time.

If TV and non rechargeable fans go off by latest 11pm, yes it is very practical.