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promise101:
Wow, a new wise fool!

I pray that you will be smiling while dying on your deathbed.

nelsonoba:
Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
As a lay man and non realist that you are, you have endlessly babbled the problems out loud, yet you ask no pertinent questions, nor offer any silent opinions. if you say religion is bad and children should not be indoctrinated, what then do you suggest we imbibe morals to children, by reading them the famed dialogues of Socrates as written by Plato?. What is being Good anyway?, is being good a function of religion?, does the expulsion of religion from man's ethics make him a creature of lesser evil? why then is man evil, if religion is not therein the basis of his evil nature?. The answer to these question reveal the simple truth that Man is inherently evil, and with or without religion, as long as he possesses the greatest of gift of all, Freewill, he is responsible for his own actions. religion is not perfect, and may need some revisions so as to cushion the effects of disequilibrium brought about by ethics and morals of the 21st century. Expunging religion is not the answer, Man is both Good evil and Evil, and by his actions continues the Order and Chaos cycle of the universe.

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
As a lay man and non realist that you are, you have endlessly babbled the problems out loud, yet you ask no pertinent questions, nor offer any silent opinions. if you say religion is bad and children should not be indoctrinated, what then do you suggest we imbibe morals to children, by reading them the famed dialogues of Socrates as written by Plato?. What is being Good anyway?, is being good a function of religion?, does the expulsion of religion from man's ethics make him a creature of lesser evil? why then is man evil, if religion is not therein the basis of his evil nature?. The answer to these question reveal the simple truth that Man is inherently evil, and with or without religion, as long as he possesses the greatest of gift of all, Freewill, he is responsible for his own actions. religion is not perfect, and may need some revisions so as to cushion the effects of disequilibrium brought about by ethics and morals of the 21st century. Expunging religion is not the answer, Man is both Good evil and Evil, and by his actions continues the Order and Chaos cycle of the universe.

Richirich713:
Hates women, hates non-jews, approve of slavery etc

Sarassin:
Johnnydon22. The only person on NL whose opinions I would actually pay to read.
The OP on the other hand is one of the most tunnel-visioned, hackneyed regurgitator of Christian apologetic semantic jiggery-pokery on NL.

johnydon22:
Calm down it's not a fight abeg ... You win carry cup please

Sarassin:
I teach my kids right from wrong and always to ask questions, the rest is up to them. So for instance, "er indoors" trundles off to church on Sundays with my young daughter who is happy enough to go. On the other hand my youngest son who got tossed out of Sunday school for asking simple questions like "who made God?" will never set foot inside another church.

Richirich713:
Most non christians reject a caricature of him that doesn't truly represent him and his character.

If he reject the true Jesus, then yeah he choose to take the road to hell.

Richirich713:
Depends on why he's stealing oranges, maybe it's to feed the kids in the orphanage.

Richirich713:
Not all, just those who reject the true biblical Jesus.


So an orange stealer is getting what he deserves.

Richirich713:
So u believe the universe came from nothing by nothing right? All atheist I seen believe this

U believe morality subjective? All atheists I heard of believe this.

U believe God does not exist - that's the definition of atheism I assuming u hold

Instead u should ask not assume.

Richirich713:
Hell yeah

Richirich713:
Agree, hell worst and its getting Wat u deserve.

Richirich713:
In hell we ain't all given the same punishments,u attacking doctrines I don't even subscribe to.

OLAADEGBU:
Conclusion

The koran is the Word of God. It was written by men who were inspired and moved by muhammad to write what he received from angel jibril . Since God cannot lie, then His Word, in its original manuscripts, cannot be in error.

Hundreds of millions of people have staked their eternal destiny on the claims of the koran, and countless scholars have studied it throughout their lifetimes and come away believing it to be the inspired, inerrant, and infallible Word of God. This should cause critics and journalists like Andrew Bolt to be more careful in their research rather than attacking the Bible's truthfulness and flippantly charging it with error.

I would encourage Mr. Bolt and others who set out to ridicule the koran to spend some time reading the Bible and checking to see if maybe, just maybe, some muslims in the past two thousand years have ever taken the time to address these so-called contradictions. The fact is that muslims have been successfully defending their faith and God's Word for nearly two millennia. These supposed contradictions can be explained when one takes the time to actually study the koran and see what it does or doesn't say about these issues.

OLAADEGBU:
Conclusion

The koran is the Word of God. It was written by men who were inspired and moved by muhammad to write what they did. Since God cannot lie, then His Word, in its original manuscripts, cannot be in error.

Hundreds of millions of people have staked their eternal destiny on the claims of the koran, and countless scholars have studied it throughout their lifetimes and come away believing it to be the inspired, inerrant, and infallible Word of God. This should cause critics and journalists like Andrew Bolt to be more careful in their research rather than attacking the Bible's truthfulness and flippantly charging it with error.

I would encourage Mr. Bolt and others who set out to ridicule the koran to spend some time reading the Bible and checking to see if maybe, just maybe, some muslims in the past two thousand years have ever taken the time to address these so-called contradictions. The fact is that muslims have been successfully defending their faith and God's Word for nearly two millennia. These supposed contradictions can be explained when one takes the time to actually study the koran and see what it does or doesn't say about these issues.

Richirich713:
That depends on if they rejected the true biblical Jesus not a misrepresented view of him

Richirich713:
As for kids, kids grow up and if they keep up
breaking the law, they will end up in prison or juvenile. Also if young kids did really hardcore crimes like murdering, they will go to a juvenile prison.
And juvenile prisons ain't so kind always, check out the juvenile prisons in South Africa. Also the when the kid reaches 18 they going to a adult prison where they most likely getting rape hundreds of times.
.

Richirich713:
Well that's becuz these people deserve hell, they get Wat they deserve.
Just like rapist's and murders deserve prison on earth.

Richirich713:
It's seems a lot like prison, either u obey this laws or u go to prison.

Richirich713:
It's not about just believing, it's more about following his teachings.

Richirich713:
But they will one day if they keep doing criminal things like stealing, beating up others etc
Also u get juvenile prisons

Strawman:
Nothing you type on Nairaland will alter anybody's religious beliefs even in the slightest.

Just saying...

HardMirror:
Hello,
I am sorry I won't be able to reveal me real name. But every other detail I give are absolutely genuine.

If you were a FUTARIAN from 2007 to 2012 it's possible you know this radical dude typing this. Yes. I was a popular christian on campus because of my activities then.
I had formal Pastorial training from my home church with a certificate. (Don't want to name the church). That was before I got admission into FUTA. We planted 2 new churches before I gained admission and was able to get the churches members before handing over to more experienced pastors.
Believe it or not, I have over 300 converts that I know of and had a book I wrote the names of my converts so has to pray for them everyday by name.
I am very sure the real number will be in the thousands, because this 300+ converts are the only ones I have their names written.

I stayed in Akindeko Hostel in my first year in Futa. I was one of those who did what we called "morning cry" everyday in the hostel. Usually from 6am in the morning. Preaching that people should repent for the kingdom of God was at hand.
I remember how I usually had clashes with the muslims at the mosque beside Akindeko Hostel.

NOTE: this is a true life story and all I say is nothing but the absolute truth. More of this story is to come.
You can follow for updates

Richirich713:
Same with hell , u break the laws u go to hell.



Neither is hell



That's wer the threatening part comes in, either u stop breaking the law or a time will come when u will be place in prison.

Richirich713:
The same way society uses prison to control kids rite?

Objectives:
My sentiments precisely, the use of threat, why threaten a kid to accept what's supposed to be in their best interest

Richirich713:
Indoctrinating ur child with religious beliefs ain't a bad thing, it's just teaching ur child Wat u consider to be true, the exact same way a Atheist will teach his child there's no God, bible is fiction, evolution is true(not all atheists) etc.



Well same with evolution, same with morality, same with forcing ur kids to go to school.

Richirich713:
Indoctrinating ur child with religious beliefs ain't a bad thing, it's just teaching ur child Wat u consider to be true, the exact same way a Atheist will teach his child there's no God, bible is fiction, evolution is true(not all atheists) etc.



Well same with evolution, same with morality, same with forcing ur kids to go to school.

Richirich713:
The same way u know religious education is a good thing. Also a universal fact