Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 11:13pm On May 01, 2016 |
Nelsonoba do u really think jesus will accept a sinner like me. I know deep down that he died for my sins . that he loves me . i know deep down that evolution is a lie masterminded by lucifer. All those thousands of evidences were only put there by the devil just to fool people. Nelsonoba , i am a sinner , u are right , i fornicate and sin , u were right. I know u knew because i dont belive in christ and people who dont beliv in christ always fornicate and sin. ................  i need jesus |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 11:07pm On May 01, 2016 |
nelsonoba: Ok.......so you've finally shown your true identity!?? And you've been fooling Johny and HardMirror all the while making them feel like you were in the same camp with them.
Just look at your life and see yourself. See the hate you are full of. Aren't you tired of all the hate trapped in you? You obviously have no love to give......not even to Johny who was dancing to your whims and caprices all along thinking you were his friend. You have no love, your god has no love to give just like you, and you expect us to follow you so that we can become full of hate just like you No thanks! I would rather serve a God that shows me love everyday......a God that loved me enough to sacrifice His own son to pay for my sins so that I would not have to end up in hell to pay for my sins by myself there. That's The God I serve! Until you can show me how much your god loves me and what he has done to help me escape damnation in hell apart from dishing out tons of rules & regulations that no man can entirely keep, don't ask me to join you in serving him. You that is marketing for him has not even succeeded in keeping all your rules and regulations, yet you want me to come and join you?? You have not even helped yourself abstain from sex outside marriage that your religion commands you to avoid, and yet you want to "help" me by bringing me to join you? Help yourself first by obeying all your god's rules and regulations and let me see you do it before you can come to invite me to join you! Bleep Johnny. Bleep hardmirror. I am so full of hate like the nine tailed fox. Johnny and hard mirror will join me with my precious lucifer as we suffer torment in hell fire. HAHAHAHAHA |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 11:03pm On May 01, 2016 |
julioralph:
Lols. funny dude, I'm not a zombie.....I only stated the obvious
I'm not surprised at all by whats happening to the both you n the Op.
shebi na so Frosbel own use start? where de guy today  Frosbel deactivated his account |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 11:00pm On May 01, 2016 |
danny56: Haba! With d depth u wrote from see what threw u off d course of Christ...... Go back to ur Bible, your answers are there. (1) Take note of the free will of humans.. (2) if God enforce His will on man against man's wish, it becomes witchcraft, yes! (3) learn also about every believer's authority. Didnt see the hardenening of pharoahs heart as the infringement of his free will |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:53pm On May 01, 2016 |
nelsonoba: Ok.......so you've finally shown your true identity!?? And you've been fooling Johny and HardMirror all the while making them feel like you were in the same camp with them.
Just look at your life and see yourself. See the hate you are full of. Aren't you tired of all the hate trapped in you? You obviously have no love to give......not even to Johny who was dancing to your whims and caprices all along thinking you were his friend. You have no love, your god has no love to give just like you, and you expect us to follow you so that we can become full of hate just like you No thanks! I would rather serve a God that shows me love everyday......a God that loved me enough to sacrifice His own son to pay for my sins so that I would not have to end up in hell to pay for my sins by myself there. That's The God I serve! Until you can show me how much your god loves me and what he has done to help me escape damnation in hell apart from dishing out tons of rules & regulations that no man can entirely keep, don't ask me to join you in serving him. You that is marketing for him has not even succeeded in keeping all your rules and regulations, yet you want me to come and join you?? You have not even helped yourself abstain from sex outside marriage that your religion commands you to avoid, and yet you want to "help" me by bringing me to join you? Help yourself first by obeying all your god's rules and regulations and let me see you do it before you can come to invite me to join you! I hate god so much , because my best friend died even when i prayed for god to save him. I am not tired of the hate in me . i dont want to go to heaven , i want to go to hell and yes, hell is real. Evolution and the big bang are nothing but tools used by satan . |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:23pm On May 01, 2016 |
julioralph: the only zombies on this thread is/are (unfortunately) you, HardMirror (or should I say coward mirror, for refusing to complete his story/lies) and the rest of you confused atheists/agnostics.
like someone said up there, u guys in Nigeria are still learners, or are you not proud of your views how come una get mouth only on Nairaland?
even the Op confessed that he had to fake a prayer for someone he ran into recently smh .. In wizkid voice.. Zombie o zombie. ... |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 10:10pm On May 01, 2016 |
opeaceo: The murder of non virgin brides?? Where?? and please don't confuse it with traditions. Dissociate how? not talking to them? not having conversations with them? expound please Deutrenomy 22 vs 20 to 21 |
Christianity Etc › Re: But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 10:05pm On May 01, 2016 |
I dont mean prayer crusades but holy war crusades |
Christianity Etc › Re: But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 10:03pm On May 01, 2016 |
opeaceo: lmfao, coming from someone who confuse 2 religions?? bokoharam? the Bible?? do you need me to spell out your mistakes?? I neva confused the 2 religions . I said if rationalisations could be made for saying crusaders carry out crusades because of belief Then rationalisations could be made for b. Haram for their acts because of belief..  |
Christianity Etc › Re: But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 9:55pm On May 01, 2016 |
opeaceo: I understand that your course might be confusing, but don't complicate matters for yourself, I've argued with better peeps over this same issue. You made reference to the Bible, and you made mention of boko haram in the same sentence??
I do not mean to insult you my dear, but you need to read wide. U my friend need to learn how 2 read and sharpen your comprehensive skills as well |
Christianity Etc › Re: Child Indoctrination by urahara(op): 9:51pm On May 01, 2016 |
CHARLOE: @ urahara, I no wat am saying, I can't tow ur path but I respect u n ur type cos u're not bound by fear. Am more of a truth seeker now, but atheism is not an option. Am not rebelling against d bible/biblical/god, just after d truth, fearlessly. Then my bros search for the truth diligently.  . |
Christianity Etc › Re: But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 9:47pm On May 01, 2016 |
opeaceo: They carry out crusades because they believe in it, they spend their money because they belive in it, for the non believers, you know what to do! So for the fact they beliv in it they should go about killing innocent people ba. U really dont know that indirectly u are justifying boko haram. They blow up planes because they beliv in it |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:43pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Not the fault of God, but the people that created him  |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:42pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Some guys are already frustrated.  "Op is a liar!!!" "Op is fake!!!" "Op was never a christian!!!" "Op is still a christian!!!" "Op has ran away!!!" Blah, blah, blah
 I have never seen sane people arguing with mad men on the road. And I have never seen people gather to thow stones at a tree without ripe fruits.
Let the ranters keep ranting. Frustration don catch una. Dont mind the zombies |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Unbelievers Going To Hell? by urahara(m): 9:29pm On May 01, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: That is not literal . At least ask me first before making such idiotic comment oh I forgot you have that propensity to exhibit such folly (You nearly got me !) . I understand but its ok as far as its coming from you guys This coming from someone who believes donkeys can talk and absaloms hair every year weighed 4. 5kg. Waaw. You my friend are the one who has the propensity to exhibit legendary folly |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:26pm On May 01, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Child Indoctrination by urahara(op): 9:24pm On May 01, 2016 |
[quote author=CHARLOE post=45224276]@ Richirich713, no nid beating about d bush, u don't believe hell fire is literal, fine, but we all know over 90% of xtians do. D question is; if ur child disobey u, will u torture him for 1hr, 1min? Talk more of eternity! Am a xtian but av bin asking myself some hard questions recently n doing some critical tinking n I've com 2 realise DAT I belived all I belived cos of child indoctrination. I can never b an atheist cos d evidence of an intelligent creator are evident all around me but i've learnt alot frm dem. Wat i've com to realise is most atheist were former belivers. am losing my faith in d bible n d biblical god. Too many contradictns, lies, deciets, genocide etc Lately av bin doing a research on d history of xtianity, in 1 word, I feel used/conned. Now I understand y d bible ask us to have d mind of a child, only a child believes without question.[/quote]
Not a child actually, the bible asks u to be a fool for jesus. To believe the bible stories u have 2 dump all your wisdom and logic.
Havent u heard the saying from martin luther king
Reason is the devils LovePeddler. The devils prostitute.
She never comes to d aid of faith |
Christianity Etc › Re: Child Indoctrination by urahara(op): 9:19pm On May 01, 2016 |
CHARLOE: @ Richirich713, no nid beating about d bush, u don't believe hell fire is literal, fine, but we all know over 90% of xtians do. D question is; if ur child disobey u, will u torture him for 1hr, 1min? Talk more of eternity! Am a xtian but av bin asking myself some hard questions recently n doing some critical tinking n I've com 2 realise DAT I belived all I belived cos of child indoctrination. I can never b an atheist cos d evidence of an intelligent creator are evident all around me but i've learnt alot frm dem. Wat i've com to realise is most atheist were former belivers. am losing my faith in d bible n d biblical god. Too many contradictns, lies, deciets, genocide etc Lately av bin doing a research on d history of xtianity, in 1 word, I feel used/conned. Now I understand y d bible ask us to have d mind of a child, only a child believes without question. I told myself the exact bolded when i ceased being a xtian and well ......  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Unbelievers Going To Hell? by urahara(m): 9:14pm On May 01, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Everybody will be judged according to his/her works . Condign punishment will be meted in Hell to any sinner . Anyway , all unrighteousness is evil before God . So is the orange stealer going 2 hellbor not |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics Are Not Christians-pastor Kelvin by urahara(m): 9:12pm On May 01, 2016 |
GooseBaba: In your pursuit to make heaven and live an happy afterlife. You've come to the conclusion that those who do not share your beliefs deserve to burn in hell. You even alluded that mother Theresa was lucky she was born again. Therefore, if she wasn't upon all her good deeds she deserves a painful "afterlife"..
So I say unto you. When your descendant finds a new religion different from yours in the future may you be condemed to hell. You should have no problem saying amen. Since you have no problem condemning others because of a belief. Funny question. How will these xtians that make heaven feel comfortable knowing that some of their family members and friends, loved ones , are having infinite torment for infinite eons of time |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:01pm On May 01, 2016 |
francis247: If you create something and it's not serving the purpose for which you created it, wouldn't you destroy it? If its not serving my purpose. It just shows i know nothing about what i m making. It shows i am as incompetent as engineers that make bridges that collapse |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 8:49pm On May 01, 2016 |
johnydon22: So you could not even make out the simple sarcasm in his post ... I give up on you guys really.
Chisssos..!!!!!!! I am not being sarcastic. Johnny. Johnny dont die a kafiru. HELL FIRE IS REAL . IF ITS NOT REAL HOW THEN WILL IT BE IN THE KORAN. FOLLOWING ISLAM IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN. I PITY U, ALL THIS YOUR FREE THINKIN WILL SEND U 2 HELL. U THINK LIFE IS BREAD AND BUTTER BA. U LL KNOW WHEN U DIE. U HAVE NO XCUSE IF U GO TO HELL . WHAT ELSE DO U WANT THE SUPREME CREATOR OF THE COSMOS TO DO TO MAKE U BELIEVE. THE QURAN IS ENOUGH FOR U. IF U LIKE DONT BELIV . U NO GO GET 72 VIRGINS KAFIRU OSHI |
Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 8:40pm On May 01, 2016 |
nelsonoba: Like seriously, I dont understand your fascination with "Islamic" hell. Hell is hell, and I don't understand why you must create an Islamic hell out of the already existing hell. By the way, you sound so apprehensive each time i talk about hell........if you're that scared of hell, then why do you still want to end up there?
And you claim to be one of the atheists backing up Mr HardMirror, but you are here wishing for me to end up in "Islamic hell"? If God does not exist as you claim, then hell too does not exist because hell is just a place for punishment of damned souls who rejected God. How could you possibly be wishing for somebody to end up in a place you claim does not exist? Aren't you the most confused human being on the planet or the worst liar there is?? Cry however u want but deep down u know islam is the right choice . why are you so angry with allah ur lord . i pity u. The moment u die and u are not a muslim u will chop koboko . allah is the true god. Muhammad is his prophet. #dont die a kafiru |
Christianity Etc › Re: But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 8:19pm On May 01, 2016 |
opeaceo: This defies LOGIC, I don't believe in eating apples or I don't like apples, and I keep telling people the core in an apple is bad or it has an alkaline taste, it's not worth the fight naw, haba!!! "Apple believers" dont go around carrying out crusades or blowing airplanes. Apple believers dont go around spending millions of naira on building churches to worship apple |
Christianity Etc › Re: Child Indoctrination by urahara(op): 8:14pm On May 01, 2016 |
Richirich713: I'm done arguing with u guy, just one last thing, how I know ?, It's called commonsense and actually making a effort to understand how the ancient hebrew eastern culture ,society understood the texts, not just reading from my western perspective. Reading commentaries from people who can read the original Greek not just reading English translations.
And I don't say verse are symbolic cuz they go against my beliefs, I actually do research before I make a decision, I even said I'm not completely certain about the view of hell I subscribe to since I haven't completed my research.
For ur info I use to take the literal fire view, there's evens earlier posts of me arguing strongly for it. What made u change ur literal hell view then. I ve read commentaries from those who understand greek and some say literal, some say figurative |
Christianity Etc › Re: Child Indoctrination by urahara(op): 8:11pm On May 01, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 8:02pm On May 01, 2016 |
opeaceo: we should ponder on it and then do what??
hmmm, scratch that, if you no longer belive the Bible, why bother about it anyways?? I bother about the bible because bible believers exist and i am surrounded by them. |
Christianity Etc › But Its In The Old Testament !!!!! by urahara(op): 7:52pm On May 01, 2016 |
Yes . we hear this all the time . many or virtually all christians use this cop out all the time when irreligious people like myself challenge them with the genocidal , infanticidal, homophobic and misogynistic behaviour of their god construct yahweh and the behaviour of his chosen ones , the jews and also the barbaricness and silliness of his laws. But those this really absolve the blame. 1. There is no explicit verse which states that the old testament or law does not count For every verse which xtians claim support this, there are other verses which debunk this. Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void. 2. It is for a fact that xtians still use some of the laws such as paying of tithe and offerings and first fruits. This just shows that christians cherry pick verses thag suit them. Why pay tithes and offerings when this is clearly part of the law. 3. If jesus is god as the trinity implies. This means he was the one who commited those atrocities in the bible. Jesus ordered the massacre of innocent virgins, babies and unborn babies, ordered the stoning of adulterers and etc 4. If yahweh is perfect , then all his deeds are perfect and good ergo all his deeds in the ot are good, if all his deeds in the ot are good , why then do you have to be ashamed of them and sqy they dont count necause they are in the ot.  why dont you encourage your children to emulate such a good behaviour. 5. Are xtians implying that morality is not fixed and changes over time 6. If we should turn a blind eye to the atrocities just because they are in the ot xtians should honestly answer these questions .. .. If they were in the old testament times and their daughters were found not to be virgins would they honestly stone their daughters to death because they were in the old testament times. ....... If they were in the old testament times and their brothers or sisters or children turned away to worship other gods would they honestly put them to death as was instructed by yahweh ....... If they were in the old testament times and their sons were killed for trying to prevent an ark from falling down would they honestly smile and accept this as just. ...... If they were in the ot times and they were ordered to attack their neighboring countries and to slay pregnant women and children would they honestly do these because thet are in the old testament times In John 1:1, we read "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." In verse 14, we read: "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us." We are told explicitly that Jesus Christ IS THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT! You probably already accept this. But, by logical extension, you must also accept therefore that it was Jesus Christ who ordered the Israelites to slaughter millions of defenseless men, women and children in the conquest of Canaan; it was Jesus Christ who killed every firstborn child in Egypt; it was Jesus Christ who ordered king Saul to butcher thousands of children and babies in the genocide of the Amalakites; it was Jesus Christ who ordered the Israelites to capture and mass-rape 32,000 young girls of the Midianite tribe after killing their families; it was Jesus Christ who struck dead 50,000 innocent people at Beshemish for merely looking into the ark of the covenant; it was Jesus Christ who caused the painful asphyxiation of every man, woman, child and animal on the face of the earth during the flood of Noah (with the exception of  ; and it was Jesus Christ who condemned every person ever born to a state of eternal suffering, all because 6000 years ago a curious and naive woman ate a piece of fruit. And, of course, it was Jesus Christ who sent 2 bears to chase down 42 little kids and disembowel them for just acting like kids My xtian brothers and sisters ........ Ponder on this Cc Johnnydon22 Hardmirror Son of lucifer |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Unbelievers Going To Hell? by urahara(m): 6:18pm On May 01, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: So the guy stole just one orange all his life ?! Haba ... habatically ! These questions are not verisimilitudinous Steals an orange and is knocked down by a vehicle which kills him on the spot |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Unbelievers Going To Hell? by urahara(m): 6:09pm On May 01, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: God is an all wise entity . Don't you think He is in the best position to give a just , wise and appropriate verdict ?  U are so ryt. A guy who steals an orange totally deserves to be tormented for infinity years |
Christianity Etc › Re: Are All Unbelievers Going To Hell? by urahara(m): 6:08pm On May 01, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Did this elude you ? One eternal punishment for the unjust , different religions . You just have to discern the authentic from the fakes . One eternal punishment for disbelief in the religion ebuka |
Christianity Etc › Re: Child Indoctrination by urahara(op): 6:06pm On May 01, 2016 |
Richirich713: 2nd - he doesn't ask to get out of hell he only wants to get Lazarus in, to continue to serve him by relieving him of his anguish. In fact he indirectly blames God for not giving him enough information. The story in no way tells us lazarus served the rich man while alive . hs asks lazarus to dip his finger in water to cool his tongue because he was in agony in the fire. The last time i checked fire isnt exactly the most pleasant of places to be in. Richirich713: 3rd- the term agony is better translated as "anguish" as NT Professor Darrell L. Bock points in his book "Luke" : "The rich man has gone from self-indulgence to anguish. Luke here uses a different term for suffering than that used in 16:23: 'odynaomai' refers to continual pain and grief, especially mental pain, which is why 'anguish' is a good way to render the term." [cf. its usage in Luke 2.48: "When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.” And Acts 20.38: "What grieved them most was his statement that they would. never see his face again." Odynaomia means agony. Christians always remember a better translation for a word whenever it doesnt agree with their beliefs . this is why there are so many denominations and differing doctrines in xtianity. Each and everyone of them claims they know a better translation of a greek word. Anguish means extreme pain either of body or mind. Richirich713: 5th - Jesus commonly used an hyperbole and overstatement to convey his points eg. Luke 14:26, Mark 10:24 and I am not in the opinion that the NT Writers intended all their words to be taken literally. 6 - like for example Jude calls hell the black darkness in Jude 13 but just before that spoke of eternal fire (Jude How then do u know when a bible verse is symbolic or not. Why is a verse always symbolic when it goes against ur beliefs. |