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JIMMY1393:
Is the 1 death that doctor guy?

na wetin I wan ask oh. This people na scam

izibili44:
take it to the bank.

as per collateral?

What are we supposed to do with this information now?

I'm ashamed of our our bandits our military and our president

petra1:
A Pastor Wife is not a pastor . But sitting with her husband does not constitute being a co Pastor . Don't you seat with your wife in church?

Secondly a Pastor wife becoming a Pastor is not out of Place . Its by desire and choice . Being a pastor is a place of service.

1 Timothy 3:1
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

Paul's workers Mr and Mrs Aquila and Priscilla were couple who served in Ministry and the couple eventually run a church in their house

1Corinthians 16:19
The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

As much as its a plus if the wife of a Pastor serve in ministry with him. But not every Pastor wife can be a Pastor . Some Pastor wife may be better as children church teacher or just be his wife at home . .

if my wife was one of the pastors sitting in the altar, do I go to Join her in the altar because she's my wife? I'm not against women being pastors or carrying out any form of service in church. I'm only not cool with the pastor/wife pastor pair in 95 of the Pentecostal churches in Nigeria.

bukatyne:
What exactly is your concern?

Your mother has 'agreed with you' so why are you unhappy?

I wasn't trying to get her agree with me, just for her to understand me tho.

I'm beginning to think this panel is a nonsense panel with no clue of what to do first they go to a military morgue to search and look for dead bodies(dumb idea) now they are asking the military to reveal the identity of the soldiers deployed that night which is another stupid dumb idea. I mean what were Dy expecting? They should be more concerned about getting irrefutable evidences, testifiers and video footages, present them before the court and let the court do their job. All this Waka Waka is just a subtle way to make this case die a natural death.

Eviana:
I know I'm in the minority here, but I've not understood this issue....that I read is rampant in Nigeria.
One should be very clear that "he" is called to pastor a church.
That absolutely does not automatically qualify his wife.....to be in the same position.
Women can minister to people (in many ways), but not pastor a church.
I've said it before on a thread that although I am a woman (and believe in respect--meaning no abuse-- for my gender), I would not attend a church where I see a woman pastor, woman elders leading out, or pastoral husband/wife team, because those are all out of the biblical design.
There are no biblical guidelines for such.
I understand that the couple want to work in ministry together, however, there are many areas for the wife to work and still be the helper for her husband without having to hold a "title".

With a husband/wife pastoral team, you really get little accountability because they both are running things, and there is no hierarchical accountability structure. All sorts of temptations such as greed, power-struggles, etc., which all are rooted in the sin of pride, will more than likely occur.

I agree with you in some aspects, I mean I don't see any problem with women pastoring a church or holding any office in a church what I don't understand is this husband and wife pastor team. God supposedly Called the pastor and not the wife.

Does being a pastor's wife automatically qualify you to be a pastor and sit next to your husband at the altar? Why is this a norm in Pentecostal churches?

Na who hungry never catch dy check who Dy pass am food.

jesusjnr2020:
It's a real shame that you believe that someone is ignorant and brainwashed just because he used a picture of a white man to illustrate Adam.

Is that all that you live and breath for?

You couldn't see anything about the message but just that little picture.

Maybe if I had used a black man instead, and said God made joined male and male together you'd find no fault because it's all about the colour of the man in the picture. And you wouldn't think you are racist?

You have serious issues to worry about because your priorities are seriously misplaced.

You need serious help! Go get one!

why would you use a white man to represent someone you know was never white? As for the rest of what you said, I don't see no sense in them. There's no dignity in being a homophobe

cupidhero:
There are certain emotions and things you don't reveal to your mom no matter how it worries you it is better to keep it within yourself or best reveal it to any fatherly figure in your life or someone manly and wise enough you can share this new found truths or temporary emotions with. This is one thing i learnt early even though i still let some emotions like anger slip through which leaves my mother thinking i am sad about life making her worried and eventually unhappier than me. No matter the amount of self love you possess the chances of your mom loving you more than you love yourself is quite huge. No mother will be happy living with the fact that her child will burn in an actual hell forever. To you it is an old belief while to her it is a fact that you will burn in hell. The best thing to do is to pretend to love,pray and believe in what ever that will make her happy because life is too short atleast let her grow old knowing if she leaves earth anyday you will be fine and reunited with her in the place called heaven.

yeah thanks for your insight, I've handled the situation

Agbegbaorogboye:
Can't you say hello too?
Who is worshipping you?
Why worship your equal? Does it not sound slavish?
Who told you you're a Nigerian? Was it not people like you? If you want to hear from God, quit chasing pussies while playing keyboard. Focus on him and open your mind to hear from him.

I'm just laughing because me I know there is nothing I did not try in my Christian days to hear God speak. Man won't just say anything, and I'll be the last person to deceive myself, I need to hear clearly. I said hello, he didn't respond a lot of times. If you are ready to tell yourself the Truth, you will agree too that you have not heard shit from the God you worship.

jesusjnr2020:
I'm racist because i'm black and put a white man picture to illustrate Adam according to you, yet you think you're not racist for being black and assuming that it's racist to do so.

It's obvious who the real racist is between the both of us. And it's certainly not me.

you are not racist but obviously either ignorant, or brainswashed or both. There is no way the first man on Earth could have been white. White supremacist christians brainwashed you into believing that Adam, Jesus and all the rest of them were white so that when you close your eyes to pray you keep on imagining the picture of a white man, acknowledging him as God or superior.

It's funny how Christians abandon all Christ taught about for an issue he literally said absolutely nothing about. Christ taught love, being less judgemental. Jesus never talked about homosexual relationship not even once. So how are you pathetic lots worrying yourselves about it and assuming to know the mind of Christ? Can't you live and let live?

No need for a long epistle. There is absolutely nothing spiritual about marriage. Marriage is purely a societal construct. There is no point staying in a marriage you are enduring. As far as I'm concerned marriage is a prison and the couples are inmates. Very unnecessary.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Why don't you worship an ATM then. Can a woman's butt say hello?

the woman can say hello. Funny enough no God has ever told me that he wants me to worship him. It's always humans telling me what their God wants. If your God really cares if I worship him or not he would tell me na.

mission08:
Hmmm....this explains it. You never knew God all along, you were just a church goer.

of course go ahead and judge me because I'm the only one that had premarital sex, I hope you never did such too. BTW, there were times I was celibate for a long while purposely.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Why would you worship your fellow human just because of curvy ass?
Does it make sense to you to reject God's omnipotence and omniscience just because you can't see him and turn to an ass worshipper.
Are you so stoned on feeding your eyes?

I'll worship any God that can say hello

Agbegbaorogboye:
So the pussies were so sweet you decided you want to spend the rest of your life worshipping them?
What am I hearing self

pussy not the same as ass. I mean I rather get on my knees and worship a woman with a very nice curvy ass that I can see with my eyes than worshipping some God that I've never seen before, only heard stories of him turning water to wine and other stuff which I don't see him doing nowadays.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Why don't you start the branch?!
Just tell your mum you're angry with God because you're sex starved and you ain't getting any.
Instead of convincing her God doesn't exist so you can worship a woman's ass.
Weyrey gbogbo

lol no I'm not angry with God and no I'm not sex starved, infact I had the best pvssies when I was the keyboardist of a popular church in Nigeria, my choir sisters were very generous In that aspect. So, if it's because of sex I'll rather remain religious for real.

Advision:
you can start it and become the general overseer

I need Gods. As in I need curvy butt women.

LadyTianna:
How did you manage that?

it's a bit long story. But in summary I introduced her to the Grace version of Christianity as opposed to the old school assemblies of God doctrines that she's used to, I used scriptures because I know them well, took her to house on the Rock church, she admitted she enjoyed the cool tushed up environment and people dressing nicely and the fact that they keep to time, so she now feels like she's been released from a cage of assemblies of God and their outdated difficult doctrines and lifestyle and feels she's now under grace bla bla bla. I'm cool with that.

LadyTianna:
You shouldn't have done that bro. You took away her hope

I didn't know better. I've somehow managed to get her believing again.

Advision:
Nothing Musa no go see for gate

Bro, now I agree you need Christ

bro talk say you no like this religion. I just wish they have a branch in Nigeria.

It's a good thing he blasted the government, but saying government should block foreign social media apps, is a foolish thing to say, the world is a global village. We are not like north Korea that are isolated from the rest of the western world. No need trying to regulate social media because the truth is you can't. U can only Try to punish fake news peddlers, but that would mean you start with the Nigerian army because they lied back to back on their official Twitter page that they were never at the lekki toll gate only to later lie again that they were their but never shot anybody. After punishing them, then you move over to Lagos State governor for posting on his official page that forces beyond his control were responsible for the lekki shooting only for the army to recently say he was the one that invited them. You see the government is not interested in curtailing fake news as long as they are the ones spreading it, they only want to shut the masses up, 600 years of suffering for all corrupt politicians.

costandi:
Tasha Cobb was the artiste of the year. The racism isn't that deep. The likes of Tauren and Travis have won several Christian music awards on this and several other platforms. I get your point tho, especially the distinction btw christian and gospel music although one can easily tell the difference upon hearing them without knowing the race of the singer. So I tend to think that colored people have built their distinct style of music over time which has been branded gospel same goes to whites. In summary I think they are two different genres divided by style and not by skin.

this made blacks abandon their original style and sound to start singing CCM so as to think acceptance. This brought to limelight the likes of Ron kenoly, then gradually everyone now sings this style as na wetin Dy reign Travis green, Jonathan Nelson Dem. I'm glad you at least understand my point.

costandi:
Tasha Cobb was the artiste of the year. The racism isn't that deep. The likes of Kirk, Tauren and Travis have won several Christian music awards on this and several other platforms.

it has significantly reduced tho. Kirk himself spoke of this. As for Travis, Tasha and tauren, you know the types of songs they sing. When did Kirk win a Christian award? Not gospel award oh, pls tell me, I've not been current with with happenings tho.

costandi:
You have a point.

people need to know whasgoinon.

HitlerGaddafi:
Gosple musicains are very pathetic set of people. Why sing and praise God because you wanna get paid for it. I remember a keyboardist of a particular church calling it quit because they weren't paying him well.

God should come first,

Money second.

Unfortunately, secular and worldly people have seeked solace in gosple music. Some of them drink alcohol and fvck around but see gospel music as an alternative to secular music. You begin to see names like yomi sax, ABpraize, TPraise, Femisax, Gpraise etc. And 90% of them are usually bad boys.

lol when I was playing for house on the Rock, I actually fvck but not anymore than choir sisters and our church leaders too. I didn't quit because of money tho because house on the Rock don't owe their musicians, they treat them like VIPs.

Hambivert:
Sparogatively, Way Maker has always been a beautiful song... but it only gained global attention when she performed it at Kanye West's Sunday Service and everything changed for that song in the global sphere!


Why am I even saying this?

...Pray for Divine Helpers

gained global attention when Leeland sang his version of it. That's the version that is even globally popular and more accepted

This song only made limelight because of Leeland's version of it. If it was possible for her to be totally sidelined and the whole credit given to Leeland, it would have been done. The racism that exists in Christian music industry is bigger than you would think or believe. It is so much that any song that does not sound like the regular CCM (white pattern) is called gospel song and not Christian song, lolx funny enough everyone accepted this without asking why, songs that sounds black Americanish or Africanish can never be in any christian music award nomination. Well I know all that matters to y'all is as far as Jesus is glorified, no wahala. But at least know what happens in the industry.