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Subzero047:
This rule will help a lot of African countries

Munir El hadd addi
Tomori
etc

komekn:
The say a picture can say a thousand words and of so then what about a video.

Let's not be comedic, but how will a player playing Wing or Wing back and not be able to cross the ball in the EPL.

The video clips shows Victor crossing with both feet left and right foot crosses from the Wing. And that's in Seria A so it's very recent.

A very basic skill that our current wingers seem to struggle with.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLJbVnpFA0

I don't need a video, I have watched him more than enough

forgiveness:
Which defender? He played as a winger in the 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 season in the Turkish league. Ain't you aware?

He played as an Amf in the seria A once this past season. Ain't you aware?

Here and now, he is still better.

Ramos has played as DM, is he a midfielder?

He didn't light up Super Lig, he was at most, average.

Playing for bigger club doesn't make one better.

Chuks is better than Moses. He should enjoy his retirement in peace

komekn:
That's not a good example it's not the perfomance of Bale that is in question but his demand for a transfer. It is an issue of football politics.

It's not all about politics, it's because he's becoming expandable.

What of Kane taking over from that Spanish striker, Soldado? Is that one politics too?

forgiveness:
Here and now, Victor Moses is still better than the wingers we have. Gbam

Playing more as a defender??

He's not even better than himself, I mean his younger self. He's on decline, gradually

komekn:
He is simply not, that's a fallacy birthed from your own deluded imagination.

One player is tried tested over a decade of competitive football in the best leagues in the world and the other in comparison is essentially a rookie.

Chukwueze is potential yet to be realised indeed he has a very long way to go to attain what Victor has achieved and may not even achieve.

Tried and tested is often exaggerated. When you don't deliver as expected, you are relegated.

Bale acts more as spectator while Rodrigo is running things

I can give you 1001 examples.

forgiveness:
Take it easy. Where did Moses play when we won Afcon?

WING 100%

He whas sense and also, no credible competitor then.

Unfortunately, we are talking about here and now. Football is not all about age and experience, if so, Hart for still be Man City no. 1

Subzero047:
When was the last time Victor Moses played as a winger?

Moses as a winger is rubbish. Running and making fruitless dribbles

komekn:
It was obviously apparent that his reason for leaving had nothing to do with football.

In the past the fixture time of AFCON conflicted with the first priority of players in Europe. This put a lot of them into a position of contention.

I know for instance because of AFCON it cost Yobo his place at a stage in Everton. In addition made African players less attractive as they would be missing right in the heart of the football season.

Thankfully that has stopped.

Nonetheless, l really don't see anybody in the HERE and NOW better than him. And in a country where we do not have any official certification of birth date. Who is old or older is open to never ending debate.

In this regard Victor Moses is not old and some of those claiming to be younger than him are open to debate.

Moses real age is open to debate too. He's older than almost all our fowards or do you have solid evidence to prove otherwise, I don't think.

komekn:
Can you be specific who was going to take his position, because l do not see anybody.

Because you chose not to see anybody.

Chuks is better than him...

elyte89:
So aw dt one take affect us



Abi...na d shock news b dt

Ejaria can still change his mind

Edopesin:
abi
It's not when the news drop they'll now be claiming "I've known this but decided not to share it"

You know the drill

Vicmo retired because he was afraid that he might lose his starting spot in SE.


This is the MAIN and ONLY reason!

Nawa oooo

This year UCL is becoming more interesting

Coutinho helped knocked Barca outta UCL


If Bayern eventually win the trophy, Barca will still pay Liverpool about €10 mil

Bayern have successfully turned Davies to a beautiful fullback

jihday:
Abidal too

Abidal is the core reason for this. His concern revolves around French players -- Sorry, I mean 'French left footed players'. Dembele, Griezmamn, et al

It's now confirmed that no league is farmer's league


Upon the mouth wey Vidal make last 2 days

Edopesin:
Dayot Upemacano vs Atletico Madrid

82 passes

91% pass accuracy

3 successful dribbles

10 accurate long balls

1 tackle won

3 interceptions

5 clearances

3 aerials duels won

He's just 21

He will send Umtiti to exile if he continues growing

charlesemeka85:
u wey dey yab person pics but the other time u posted one here you resemble fido dido

This thread hath taught me a lot.

Thanks Charles for the 'Fido dido'

TheGoodJoe:
Very true. We can see it in Partey and Rodri (Man City). Those guys blossomed under Simeone.

Yeap

Gimenez too

TheGoodJoe:
Atletico is such a terrible side when it comes to player development. Their football just sucks the lives of the players. Joao Felix hurts me because in a more offensive side, he would have developed at a faster rate.

You will only develop if you ain't attacking player.

Considering what's going on, I think joining Valencia will be bad move for Chuks. Seems Villarreal cooking something better.

Valencia has no clear project

Neobulletzz:
Lol
Thanks

You said R is not better than H, are you not insinuating H is the better one then

No, it's not always black or white.

Always remember, we have grey at the middle

ChrisKels:
Oya oo Norseman no vex oo. I am sorry no come kill me for nothing, na cap I cap, I no follow u argue or battle for supremacy oo abeg. I no go talk Una talk again sorry

Sevilla playing Technical football while Wolves are doing their EPL kick and rush

TheSuperNerd:
Okay. Fine. Let me agree. You rate Victor more than Tammy. Alright? That's settled.


Now... How am I rubbishing Tammy's good season? Statistically, I even admitted that he did good. Very good in fact. Lad was Chelsea's top scorer in all comps. wasn't he? I went on to say he indeed will be in the convo for best young U-23 striker in the world. If you talking Top 10, Tammy must be mentioned.

I think you really misunderstood what my post was doing. It was addressing a simple comparison between Osimhen and Tammy on their gametime. On one playing a full season and the other not even finishing his. Finito. It was never about whether Tammy's season was good or bad. It is about who had it better comparatively. Tammy's good season is one discussion. His comparison with Osimhen is another. Don't mix up the two. Alright?

Inugo? I hope you get this b'cos I no wan repeat myself Biko. Merci.

I'm pretty sure you understood me.

TheLoneCitizen:
Great analysis here, mate, but I'm afraid it's flawed and not conclusive.
A player being substituted out doesn't always signify he's poor, it signifies he might have good competition.

To illustrate:
Aguero started 18 games but has been substituted out 10 times, only once has that sub been on account of an injury.

On the other hand, Harry Kane has started 29 games and has been substituted out just 3 times, never on account on injury.

But when starting(bar injury) Aguero scores in 53% of his games.
Kane scores in 48%.
Aguero scored 16 times . Kane scored 18 times.

This obviously shows that Aguero was substituted a lot because of the competition of the squad.
But Kane was not substituted enough because of zero competition.

This stat is not fair on Tammy because he has scored 9 in 25 starts compared with Osimhen's 10 in 25, but is still subbed way more.

But, yeah, Osimhen is clear of Tammy, man.

Thanks for saying it better.

I'm glad 'you saw what I saw'

TheSuperNerd:
You see what I mean? Your only purpose for quoting me was to shout bias with no concrete evidence. Pretending under the umbrella of "I rate Osimhen too". Lol


Now let me show you a post of mine that defined Tammy's season.










Look below.... That was my beautiful balanced take. Adios.

Irony of Life -- accusing me what you are guilty of.

I'm wondering why you are uncomfortable that I rate Victor higher than Tammy

My problem with you and your clique is unnecessary jab on Tammy to rubbish his 'Okay season'

IDENNAA:
I prefer a club in Spanish Segunda division to Turkish first division clubs. Especially , for a young player like Awaziem.

Awaziem is not young anymore

TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahahahaha... Rubbish. It is your understanding of these facts and figures that is messed up. Point out the bias in what those figures state. Please do.
People are making it look like Tammy didn't get gametime and were quick to use he had "less gametime" to justify Tammy's stats BUT THE TRUTH IS HE GOT DROPPED AT SOME POINT FOR POOR FORM. FACT!!!

I stated everything as it is...

What is biased in just stating the facts as it happened?

Obviously you are just pretending on my mention to rate Osimhen to make your point look legit. I have seen such before.

Tell me, where is the bias?

The bias is so CLEAR.

Cut the boy some slack. Poor form or no poor game, he did okay, I mean very okay.


Enough of these nonsense

TheSuperNerd:
Speaking facts...

Tammy started 25 league games and got subbed out 16 times! He got subbed in on 9 ocassions majorly b'cos hé lost his place to Giroud with time.

8 out of those 16 times he got taken off, he didn't score or assist in those games. I guess he was always injured those 8 times he didn't score and got yanked off.

In the Champions league, Tammy also started 7 times out of Chelsea's 8 games. And was subbed out in 4 of them.





On Osimhen, this guy started 25 league games and only got subbed in twice. He was taken off/subbed out only on 5 ocassions and 3 out of those 5 occasions, Osimhen scored or assisted goals. I will not even bother elaborating those two times he didn't score.


In the Champions league, he started five for Lille and finished them! He was NEVER taken off.






Now from these, it is obvious one had a team relying so heavily on him. One literally carried the team but the other was having it up and down and seeing his game time reduced partly due to poor form and losing his place to a much older Striker in Giroud. And yes, he still got some goals... Who wouldn't in a high quality side like Chelsea in 45 whooping games?? (Read on and you will see how I arrived at number 45 ).


In Summary, Tammy started 33 games in all competitions in 2019/2020 and Osimhen also started 33 games in all competitions.

Osimhen got subbed in only 5 times in all comps.

Tammy got subbed in 14 times.


In total, Osimhen made 38 appearances while Tammy made 45 appearances.

Tammy played more games but got less minutes b'cos several times he simply didn't perform and got yanked off 8 times out of 16 sub-outs in the league alone where he didn't score nor assist. He also lost his place to Giroud at some point hence his game time got hit hard!





So who are the biased ones?


Enough talk please... Moving on.

I rate Osimhen higher ATM but your analysis is biased.