It was staged by Amoda. Una dey deceive unaselves

Iamgrey5:
The Lady is a power drunk lunatic

That's not how you declare independence.

You have all these money but can't help poor communities within the South West to dig borehole water, you can't help the poor with education scholarships.

However, you simply bought guns and Cutlass for some hoodlums and gave them instructions to match to the government secretariat which happens to be the most heavily secured place in the state to go and meet their doom.

She is not different from politicians that give guns to tugs during election to seize power.

How do you declare the freedom of millions without seeking their consent or gaining their trust.
Are you not just a rebranded dictator?

El Rufai is only corroborating what we have been saying that subsidy is being paid through the backdoor. A reason person would know that without subsidy, petrol price woild be fluctuating with dollar.

We're not fans of El Rufai, infact, he is the one now supporting our position because we took this position of subsidy payments long before him

Honor10:
I expect emergency lover of Elrufai to come and counter this news, they suddenly love Elrufai because of the perceived distrust going on between Tinubu and Elrufai.

You should keep fooling yourself, Tinubu go still win 2027 election, you can all cry to death.

The British put you together. Either we build a fair and just country or we go our separate ways

benodic:
Hello Everyone,

I don't usually like discussing politics because it seems like anytime that word politics is mentioned in Nigeria what follows next is tribal and religious divide with abuses thrown into the mixture between opponents.

But I still believe I should speak out and make my voice heard as we are gradually spiralling into oblivion as a country.
I have had the privilege of going round this country and have also had the privilege of working in many areas of the country's geopolitical zones ; north-west, north-east, north-central, south-west, south-south and south-east.

I have mingled with the different tribes that make up this country and have also taken time to study the different religions that make us who we are in this country.

My conclusion is that God didn't make any mistake in putting us together as a country. Nigeria is actually a litmus test for the rest of the world and we are standing on the precipice of total success and being a beacon of light for the rest of the world starting from Africa or being the most disastrous spiritual experiment in creation.

All the regions in Nigeria have their unique strengths and weaknesses and I discovered in my travels that we really do complement each other and need each other to survive and strive.

The only obstacle standing in our way is if we can raise our collective consciousness to make considerations of tribal and religious affiliations secondary to the strength a particular person or group brings to the table that will move the country forward.

Failure to do this will never help this country no matter how long we remain together. Even if we split this level of reasoning will still follow us to our various regions because there is no region of the country that can boast of only 1 tribe and 1 religion.

It's either we get it right now or lose it forever.
The choice is ours to either sink or swim.
The world is watching

APC too like criminals!

Is it not time to separate this country to atleast 6 countries?

We can't continue like this. Let the North deal with their banditry themselves and not drag the rest of Nigeria perpetually

I agree with you 100%

I don't understand why some people insists on cohabiting with people they openly hate. You cannot love what you hate!

whatisthetruth:
Anytime any Nigerian accuses their fellow blacks of worshipping white people or having low self esteem, ask them:

WHY THEN HAVE YOU VOWED TO UPHOLD THE WHITE MANS NIGERIA, EVEN WITH BLOODSHED OF YOUR OWN?

It seems no one else in the world is truly as senseless as the average black Nigerian.

I read a thread today about Tinubu threatening secessionists and all the responses on the thread were like "yeah, uphold our slave masters country", "yeah, kill them."

Thank God whites came and clothed you guys to hide your unclothedness, giving you phones, internet, computers e.t.c

Thank God for the whites helping you to discover Oil under your feet as you didn't even know you had it or what it was used for, wow.

Thank God for the white man helping you to travel by Ocean, cause by now you would still think marine spirits live in there.

Thank God for the white man helping you to identify animals in the Ocean, cause today you would have thought that a Whale is your god.

...


You lot are inferior in almost everyway and everyday you keep hailing and praising your inferiority, while still being the barbaric savages you were by threatening to kill your black brethren to uphold the white mans toilet country; Nigeria.

So what happened to African nationalities that have morbid fear of forming their own countries?

I totally agree with the Op

jazzman7711:


ILLITERATE IMBEC.IL.E

LET ME EDUCATE YOUR EMPTY, DUMB, THICK SKULL.

ANCIENT NIGERIANS MANUFACTURED GLASS AND EXPORTED MANUFACTURED SOAP AND TEXTILES HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE COLONIAL INVASIONS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/glass-africa-made-before-european-arrival-colonialisation-advanced-technology-a8168601.html

BENIN CITY WAS DESCRIBED IN THE 15TH CENTURY AS BEING AMONG THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND BEST PLANNED CITIES IN THE WORLD, COMPLETE WITH STREET LIGHTS, MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS, AND A MILITARY WALL/RAMPART THAT WAS 4 TIMES LONGER THAN THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA, AND CONSUMED A 100 TIMES MORE MATERIAL THAN WAS USED IN BUILDING THE BIGGEST PYRAMID IN EGYPT, THE PYRAMID OF KHUFU.

THE WALL IS RECORDED IN THE 1974 AND 1982 GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS AS BEING ''THE LARGEST SINGLE ARCHAEOLOGICAL PHENOMENON ON THE PLANET''.

BENIN CITY WAS BUILT ACCORDING TO AFRICAN MATHEMATICAL FRACTAL DESIGN UNKNOWN TO EUROPE TILL THE 19TH CENTURY

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace


MORE EDUCATION FOR OUR LITTLE THICK, EMPTY HEAD:

12 Amazing African Inventions That Created The Civilized World



1 Speech

The first words by humans were spoken by Africans.

''Using statistical methods to estimate the time required to achieve the current spread and diversity in modern languages today, Johanna Nichols — a linguist at the University of California, Berkeley — argues that vocal language must have arisen in our species at least 100,000 years ago. Using phonemic diversity, a more recent analysis offers directly linguistic support for a similar date. Estimates of this kind are independently supported by genetic, archaeological, palaeontological and much other evidence suggesting that language probably emerged somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa during the Middle Stone Age, roughly contemporaneous with the speciation of Homo sapiens.''


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language




2 Writing


In 1999, Archaeology Magazine reported that the earliest Egyptian hieroglyphs date back to 3400 BCE which "...challenge the commonly held belief that early logographs, pictographic symbols representing a specific place, object, or quantity, first evolved into more complex phonetic symbols in Mesopotamia."

Who were these original Egyptians?

The Greek historian Herodotus.. described the Colchians of the Black Sea shores as "Egyptians by race" and pointed out they had "black skins and kinky hair."

Apollodorus, the Greek philosopher, described Egypt as "the country of the black-footed ones" and the Latin historian Ammianus Marcellinus said "the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny desiccated look."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1624_story_of_africa/page88.shtml

In his book 'Egypt', British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt [present day Somalia]."

''Greek historian Diodorus Siculus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were.. the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture.''

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)

http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html

To summarise:

"Ancient Egypt was a Negro civilisation. The history of Black Africa will remain suspended in the air and cannot be written correctly until African historians connect it with the history of Egypt. The African historian who evades the problem of Egypt is neither modest nor objective nor unruffled. He is ignorant, cowardly and neurotic. The ancient Egyptians were Negroes. The moral fruit of their civilisation is to be counted among the assets of the Black world."

- Cheikh Anta Diop, The African Origin of Civilisation.



3 Medicine

''The earliest known surgery was performed in Egypt around 2750 BC.... The Ebers papyrus (1550 BC) is full of incantations and foul applications meant to turn away disease-causing demons, and also includes 877 prescriptions. It may also contain the earliest documented awareness of tumors..

Homer (800 BC) remarked in the Odyssey: "In Egypt, the men are more skilled in medicine than any of human kind" and "the Egyptians were skilled in medicine more than any other art". The Greek historian Herodotus visited Egypt around 440 BC and wrote extensively of his observations of their medicinal practices. Pliny the Elder also wrote favourably of them in historical review. Hippocrates (the 'father of medicine'), Herophilos, Erasistratus and later Galen studied at the temple of Amenhotep, and acknowledged the contribution of ancient Egyptian medicine to Greek medicine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_medicine



4 Architecture

The African empire of Egypt developed a vast array of diverse structures and great architectural monuments along the Nile, among the largest and most famous of which are the Great Pyramid of Giza and the Great Sphinx of Giza

The pyramids, which were built in the Fourth Dynasty, testify to the power of the pharaonic religion and state. They were built to serve both as grave sites and also as a way to make their names last forever. The size and simple design show the high skill level of Egyptian design and engineering on a large scale. The Great Pyramid of Giza, which was probably completed c. 2580 BC, is the oldest and largest of the pyramids, and is the only surviving monument of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. The pyramid of Khafre is believed to have been completed around 2532 BC, at the end of Khafre's reign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_architecture

Sudan (Ancient Nubia) is also a site of MORE pyramids than Egypt, many older and smaller-sized.

Sudan has 255 pyramids in total, dated several thousands of years old.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2015/4/5/pictures-of-sudans-forgotten-nubian-pyramids



5 Mathematics

The invention of mathematics is placed firmly in African PRE-HISTORY

''The oldest known possibly mathematical object is the Lebombo bone, discovered in the Lebombo mountains of Swaziland and dated to approximately 35,000 BC. It consists of 29 distinct notches cut into a baboon's fibula. Also prehistoric artifacts discovered in Africa and France, dated between 35,000 and 20,000 years old [respectively], suggest early attempts to quantify time.

The Ishango bone, found near the headwaters of the Nile river (northeastern Congo), may be as much as 20,000 years old and consists of a series of tally marks carved in three columns running the length of the bone. Common interpretations are that the Ishango bone shows either the earliest known demonstration of sequences of prime numbers or a six month lunar calendar.

Also, Predynastic Egyptians of the 5th millennium BC pictorially represented geometric designs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics#Prehistoric_mathematics

''Numeral systems have been many and diverse, with the first known written numerals created by Egyptians in Middle Kingdom texts such as the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus.

The earliest uses of mathematics were in trading, land measurement, painting and weaving patterns and the recording of time. More complex mathematics did not appear until around 3000 BC, when the Egyptians and Babylonians began using arithmetic, algebra and geometry for taxation and other financial calculations, for building and construction, and for astronomy''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics



6 Mining of minerals

The oldest known mine on archaeological record is the "Lion Cave" in Swaziland, which radiocarbon dating shows to be about 43,000 years old. Much later on, the Africans of Egypt mined malachite....Quarries for turquoise and copper were also found at "Wadi Hamamat, Tura, Aswan and various other Nubian sites"..The gold mines of Nubia were among the largest and most extensive in the world, and are described by the Greek author Diodorus Siculus. He mentions that fire-setting was one method used to break down the hard rock holding the gold. One of the complexes is shown in one of earliest known maps. They crushed the ore and ground it to a fine powder before washing the powder for the gold dust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining#Prehistoric_mining



7 Iron Smelting

Iron smelting is a form of extractive metallurgy; its main use is to produce a metal from its ore. This includes production of silver, iron, copper and other base metals from their ores. Smelting uses heat and a chemical reducing agent to decompose the ore, driving off other elements as gasses or slag and leaving just the metal behind.

Early iron smelting:

''Where and how iron smelting was discovered is widely debated, and remains uncertain due to the significant lack of production finds.. [but] there is a further possibility of iron smelting and working in West Africa by 1200 BC. In addition, very early instances of carbon steel were found to be in production around 2000 years before the present in northwest Tanzania, based on complex preheating principles. These discoveries are significant for the history of metallurgy.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelting


8 Religion

Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. He wrote about the ''Ethiopians'' south of Egypt.

"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity,"


9 Laws

Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says:

"Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws."
Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62.



10 International Trade


In 1825, Arnold Hermann Heeren (1760-1842), Professor of History and Politics in the University of Gottengen and one of the ablest of the early exponents of the economic interpretation of history, published, in the fourth and revised edition of his great work Ideen Uber Die Politik, Den Verkehr Und Den Handel Der Vornehmsten Volker Der Alten Weld, a lengthy essay on the history, culture, and commerce of the ancient Ethiopians, which had profound influence on contemporary writers in the conclusion that it was among these ancient Black people of Africa and Asia that international trade was first developed. He thinks that as a by-product of these international contacts there was an exchange of ideas and cultural practices that laid the foundations of the earliest civilizations of the ancient world. Heeren in his researches says: "From the remotest times to the present, the Ethiopians [ancient name for blacks south of the Sahara] have been one of the most celebrated, and yet the most mysterious of nations. In the earliest traditions of nearly all the..civilized nations of antiquity, the name of this distant people is found. The annals of the Egyptian priests are full of them, and the nations of inner Asia, on the Euphrates and Tigris, have interwoven the fictions of the Ethiopians with their traditions of the wars and conquests of their heroes; and, at a period equally remote, they glimmer in Greek mythology. When the Greeks scarcely knew Italy and Sicily by name, the Ethiopians were celebrated in the verses of their poets, and when the faint gleam of tradition and fable gives way to the clear light of history, the lustre of the Ethiopians is not diminished."

http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html


11 Philosophy

Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language. Philosophy is distinguished from other ways of addressing such problems by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on rational argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy#Ancient_philosophy

Philosophy in Africa has a rich and varied history, dating from pre-dynastic Egypt, continuing through the birth of Christianity and Islam. Arguably central to the ancients was the conception of "ma'at", which roughly translated refers to "justice", "truth", or simply "that which is right". One of the earliest works of political philosophy was the Maxims of Ptah-Hotep, which were taught to Egyptian schoolboys for centuries...Ancient Egyptian philosophers made extremely important contributions to Hellenistic philosophy, Christian philosophy, and Islamic philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_philosophy

''Ancient Egyptian philosophy has been credited by the ancient Greeks as being the beginning of philosophy''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_philosophy


12 Art

The oldest art objects in the world—a series of tiny, drilled snail shells about 75,000 years old—were discovered in a South African cave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art

Tinubu is already performing woefully so he is already campaigning against himself. The oppositions work is already made easy

helinues:


Would you be interested in becoming a comedian?

It get why oo

You won't hear it. Tinubu would be the one to shout rigging in 2027!

helinues:


Because we don't want to hear another tale of how the election was rigged

Yes...Tinubu is their master.

crossfm:
Hehehe.

He should face his wahala alone,was Tinubu with him when he was looting the state.

Is it your waste?

Why do you care?

helinues:
1 year after the 2023 election, the oppositions and their supporters are still nursing the hangover of the 2023 election defeat.

They are not interested in putting their party together, they are not interested in woing people to their side, so as they normally waste the first 3 years after the election but when the election is now a year to come, that's when they will remember they want to take.tjeir country back from those who have been defending her from same them.

How do you think you can win presidential election in Nigeria with preparation in a year to the election? How?

Excuses. This is not the kind of restructuring advocated for but holistic

drlateef:




Tinubu has already started restructuring Nigeria. He accented to State Police and is now part of constitutional amendment being carried out by NA now. He cannot change the laws. It is the NA and SA that will do that. He can only send bills which he is gradually doing. He stated that it is necessary to have stability and prosperity before more aggressive restructuring can be done. He is a pragmatic leader. If Nigeria is restructured in a state of hunger and insecurity, the states will not be able to cope with the powers given to them.

Yet the corrupt Ariwoola as CJN allows corrupt people to use the courts to block their arraignments.

You tell me, you guys were the one saying it then

Tjra:

What makes GEJ an ineffectual buffoon?

Why the street lights after 1km? To gaslight people not to focus on the fraudulent contract?

Vixlot:
Speed:Lagos - Calabar Coastal Highway: Kilometers Completed With Street Lights

Coastal Road today.
Hi-tech is already done with about 1km of the road pavement with street lights installed on both sides and at the median.

The rail line will begin at Jakande.

These people are not smiling at all.
Keep it up.

Rescued from where? Where is/are the father(s) of these children?

The never ending orchestrated kidnapped that spiraled out of control!

Such hypocrisy? Remember when you guys were calling GEJ ineffectual buffoon?

What goes around comes around!

Indeed Buhari was an incompetent buffoon

Tjra:

Anyone not from your village is always a buffoon. You people always think you are the smartest and knows it all. I've never seen a mob with so much pride and arrogance

Hmmm.

Raskimonojendor:

She flew AirPeace and she reviewed AirPeace that left her stranded. So we should not call out AirPeace again when they offer a customer bad service? I don't think AirPeace offered her a free ticket.

If she flew a foreign airline, then she will also review the foreign airline.

Out of all the numerous local and international airlines that missed flight, why air peace?

Raskimonojendor:

You can't shut down free speech. It's on twitter which even has more views than Nairaland.

Nigerians did a number on themselves by allowing an extremely unqualified buffoon like Buhari to be president twice. Such a shame!

Buhari did damage of historical proportion. Tinubu is cementing it

Whats your point?

AsabaPropertyAg:
It is a normal routine for immediate past Governors, this is not the first time it will happen.

quote author=LordviccoDaGuru post=129486345]

Source:
https://saharareporters.com/2024/04/17/breaking-anti-graft-agency-efcc-barricades-ex-governor-yahaya-bellos-house-abuja-amid

Una don start una campaign of calumny.
Why don't you open thread for all the missed flight by all airlines?

Vixlot:
So
@flyairpeace
sold a ticket at 120k from Abuja to Owerri scheduled to leave Abuja at 4:30 and land at 5:30. Ended up delaying until 6:18 because "no pilot". Half way on air, we were told that they can't go anymore because Owerri airport closes at 6:40 so they turned back.
Arrived at Abuja again and took more than 20 minutes before passengers were addressed and let out and another 20+ minutes to have someone tell us what will happen next. They then promised us a bus to drive us to a hotel to sleep but it's past 9pm and the bus is nowhere to be found after leaving with a few people in the first round. We are all stranded, scattered around. I myself was coming from Kano but missed my connecting flight with Dana air because Azman delayed for 1 hour+ then I went ahead to book air peace because I needed to get home today but here I am, stranded after spending over 300k on domestic flights today. When will our government and laws start protecting us from all this rubbish. If air peace knew people could sue, they won't do this.

https://twitter.com/Grace_undiluted/status/1780690729263620416

Una don change mouth?

So now Tinubu cannot restructure the country? But he was fighting Obj to restructure, to the extent of creating his own local government dev councils?

favor914:
Which kind ignorance be this for Christ sake, how President wan take restructure the country?

Na the Executive arm of government dey draft laws for any amendments of the constitution, or restructuring? werin come be the National Assembly work, & two third of the state houses of assembly work needed for any illusion restructuring?

I agree with all you said and thats why I am not happy with our trajectory

MrBrownJay1:


what do you believe made what Nigeria is today (if not Nigerians)?
what i am trying to tell you is that Nigeria and India shouldnt remotely be compared, not because Indians are superior humans (such country doesnt exist)... India is in a different league because...
- they have a DIFFERENT HISTORY
- they are DIFFERENT PEOPLE
- they have DIFFERENT POLITICS
- they have DIFFERENT RULERS
- they have DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
- they have DIFFERENT MILITARY POWER
- they have NUCLEAR POWER

apart from yeye oil/gas that Nigeria cant even refine themselves thus have to work with foreign thieving companies that gives you peanuts for your natural ressources (and get the best deal in that equation)... that same oil/gas that these yeye leaders (that you've elected) steal and share among themselves instead of using the funds to improve the country's major infrastructures (and better the lives of Nigerians).... what really do you have in Nigeria (to be proud of)?

Nigerians celebrate mediocrity because thats only what they have/know. Nigerians have never known anything other than mediocrity.... so even though their lives aint better than yesterday, they will be glued to watch big brother Naija and celebrate some yeye people in a house; they will celebrate giving away their money to some charlatan-in-robe promising them a better life while continuing to live in poverty (while that same fraudster-in-robe lives in a mansion in Banana island and drives a Rolls Royce etc); they will complain about the price of Dollar and/or items in the market, yet they elected the ignoramus that removed subsidy that created such nightmare environment; they will say nothing while that yeye president creates a company called Oando PLC with his children and have that company settle the decade long lawsuit that the Nigerian gov had against Shell/ENI, after putting his children in charge of Oando Plc (a company who now suddenly owns all the onshore assets of Eni)... this type of madness is the reason why Nigerians are celebrating mediocrity, but sadly remains at the bottom while other countries strive.

Use your head for once, stop being gullible!

Exousiang01:


How you can be so ignorant and still so loud eludes every imagination.
Your level of arrogant ignorance needs research

Give it up already!

LegendHero:
Lol, Nigeria media and nonsense sensational reporting.

Below is a quick chart I did on python with the FX reserve data from CBN. You can see how the foreign reserve move average through the years from 2006 to 2024.

Cardoso paid over $6bn in FX backlog, repayed trillion from the way and means, where do they expect him to see the money aside dipping in the foreign reserve and borrowing?

Even the Bloomberg report that they are all copying and pasting clearly mentioned the above in their report. Just that Nigeria media don't use brain in copying.

To all those kids screaming keep your dollar, how many of una even get dollars lol? For those with dollar, keep it so that your family can cry for you when you lose your life fortune.

God bless Nigeria.

Breeze don dey blow fowl yansh

Damagun is the most docile PDP acting chairman in history. He must be working for Tinubu through Wike

Amoda stop this your hired Yoruba nation agitators! You don hire another set of bishops agitators

Face governance, propaganda cannot lead your govt anywhere. Na magistrate court dey try people for treason? Jokers!!!

2027, you'll be booted out due to your ineptitude and corrupt administration.

Is he not planning to contest 2027?

Now tell me, those 16 Yoruba nation agitators believe they're enough to declare Yoruba nation just like that?

They were staged by Amoda and that why the security agents did not engage them. Its too obvious!

Is that the way a new country is declared?

LegendHero:


How does this your own conspiracy theory make sense to you?

Ho can the current GCFR be using secessionist to beg a “North” that is out of power.

Use your head!

Igbos are different from Obidients!
There has been agitation for Biafra since the 60s

T8ksy:



@ bolded, above..........Really? Are igbos truly ready to leave Nigeria??
So what then is the meaning of their slogan in the last election ; a new Nigeria is POssible.

Production = Industrialization?

How about massive agricultural production for a start? Petroleum products production?

Lithiumite:


And in your supposed wise opinion,you think Nigeria can achieve the level of industrialisation it requires within 4 or even 8 years?

Do you have any idea what china went through to get where they are today.....if govt were to begin to implement something close to that, u will be the first to lampoon govt