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MrBrownJay1:
doesnt change the fact that majority of the old Nolly movies and/or many of NOLLY movies today....are GARBAGE!

same with today's movies 20 years from now.

MrBrownJay1:
sadly, they also had GARBAGE movie quality, GARBAGE sound, GARBAGE acting, GARBAGE visuals, GARBAGE camera work etc

just like everything you mentioned here will be applied to today's movie 20 years from now.

pu7pl3:
you're confusing losing once in a while/here and there as midcard...they are the most decorated tag team in WWE bro and Big E has more of that "it" factor than Kofi so I don't see himk going the Kofi route

they are the most decorated tagteam in WWE, because that's the safest and sometimes only place to perform...give them a mid-card title sometimes and that's the only thing the New Day need for 7 years. Didn't you know the New Day was created because the 3 were trying to keep their jobs? Out of them all, Kofi was the only one of them capable of surviving alone as a matter of fact he was supposed to get a world title push early in his career before Randy halted it...so yeah I think Kofi has more of 'It' than Big E who spent years to finally get a world title, but hey different strokes for different folks. I still feel bad for New Day. They are great, but the goofy gimmick, though entertaining, is a bit of a drawback for them.

pu7pl3:
Nah I think he will...I don't even think he loses at Day 1

I doubt man. Lookat Kofi, he has only been close to a title win once...and that was just a filler. Man let's agree, even if it's to disagree, with the cartoon gimmicks, cereal, pancakes and the goofy dance routine, New Day is mid-card for life. That's how I see it bro.

pu7pl3:
Lol, Roman Nd maybe Brock are the only people that won't take a pin like that

Big E is still an expendable champion

I feel so bad for him. After this he might not get another push. New Day is mid-card for life.

pu7pl3:
God is helping them

looking at it now, I get your point. Having Big E(the champion) take the pin is bad booking, especially after Lashley had already faced 2 guys and is more exhausted, but anyway it's Big E right.. Vince will never have Roman take a pin like that.

pu7pl3:
From a storyline point of view, yea

wow. God help RAW.

pu7pl3:
WWE RAW REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS


Ready to get started? Let’s talk Raw!

All Mighty Marathon Man
I promised to always keep it real with you. These are my thoughts, whether you agree, right or wrong. It’s just how I’m feeling at the moment. And right now? Despite some parts of it being really entertaining, none of this main story running through Raw this week made an iota of sense.
Let’s start with the fact WWE used the tried and true “stack the deck” trope against Bobby Lashley, a heel. One doesn’t simply stack decks against heels. Because, duh, they’re bad guys. You stack the deck against the good guys because it garners sympathy, gives the fans something to cheer for, and it’s unfair. To say nothing of the fact two of Lashley’s three matches were against other bad guys! So what exactly is the audience rooting for? If we’re not supposed to like Kevin Owens or Bobby Lashley, why do we care who wins the match? Especially when the former makes a quick tap to preserve himself for the upcoming big match. Same goes for Lashley and Seth Rollins. To quote a certain Tribal Chief, it’s confusing.
When Adam Pearce and Sonya Deville—still the two worst people at any job other than NY Giants GM Dave Gettleman—declared Lashley’s matches were No DQ after KO got Lashley disqualified in his match with Seth, they presented it as something to excite the crowd. Big E is the champion and this week, WWE did more to garner goodwill towards a dastardly fiend than their babyface with the gold around his waist.
This speaks to WWE’s weird booking on Raw. Especially the fluidity Pearce and Deville display on the regular. Depending on the show or the week, the two are either neutral umpires calling balls and strikes, or they’re either bad to the bone or goodie two shoes. Sometimes, they’re all three on the same show.
All of this is why I felt nothing during the main event. Lashley and Big E make beautiful music together but their notes are drowned out from all the noise around them. Which sucks because their No DQ match was as physical as you think it was.
Rollins and KO interfering to take out Lashley is one of those disconnected moments. I get it. They want to preserve their advantage and not share a ring with another man. Word. But in doing so, they once again make everything weird. E fended them off because he’s a man of honor and wants to do it the right way. Of course, his righteousness came back to haunt him when MVP struck E’s knee with a cane, allowing Lashley to hit a spear and earn his way into the Fatal 4-Way at January 1 Day 1.
More stakes for E as he rings in 2022, but the way we got here just doesn’t compute.
Best part of the whole story? Seth’s suit and then Seth complimenting Bobby’s suit. Love to see two cats giving each other props for looking fly.


The Rest
Another January 1 Rematch
I’m not feeling Liv on the microphone. I’m not sure what it is, but she sounds too rehearsed and I can hear her thinking. That said, when she gets physical and responds to Becky’s jackass routine, I buy it. Becky injured Liv and accepted her challenge for a rematch at Day 1. Typical heel move and a good way to keep building heat for Becky Lynch. That said, Liv has to get a W or else this is really just spinning wheels.

Big O Gets a Very Big W
Otis beat Riddle in pretty dominant fashion. Riddle had his moments, sure, but this was all Otis all the time. The story? Riddle isn’t focused and no matter what Randy Orton says, his tag partner refuses to put all of his energy into his matches.

Bianca Wins the Battle But...
This feud confuses me at the moment. I get Doudrop’s motivation and why she wants to beat Bianca. But in two tries now, she came up short. Once by DQ and now with her shoulders on the mat for three seconds. Bianca can’t overpower her like everyone else, but she just outsmarts her and uses Doudrop’s weight against her.
But after the match, Doudrop attacked Belair. Frustration? Sure. But that means this will keep going. Belair has two wins under her belt now, what legitimate reason does she have to keep fighting?

Over the Edge
The most interesting part of Edge and Miz’s latest back and forth was Miz using Maryse as a human shield. Maryse’s husband erred because she wasn’t feeling that. Not one bit. The segment ended with Maryse slapping her husband because as the mother of his two children, she can’t put herself in that kind of danger anymore. This adds some intrigue and another layer because before that, it was yawn city. Edge presented another version of what he said last week, while Miz provided more smugness and violence.
This program is exhibit A that one month is way too long for the way WWE builds matches.

Theory’s Dirty Deeds
Austin Theory and Finn Balor are going to tango. Either next week or at Day 1. My money is on both. Theory interfered as Balor and Damian Priest took on the Dirty Dawgs. It was actually a fun tag match until Theory interfered and cut it way too short.

Nikki A.N.C.H.O.R.
Queen Zelina defeated Rhea Ripley. Clean. In the middle of the ring. While that in itself is enough to go “word?” it’s how Zelina beat her that matters. Well, it matters to some. Nikki A.S.H. keeps proving she’s an anchor around Rhea’s waist. She’s the reason they’re no longer tag champs, and now she’s the cause for Rhea taking a rare L. And Rhea knows it too. I’m interested because I really want to know how this ends.

24/7 Still a Thing
I have no words for this.

Wasn’t feeling Raw tonight. The bright spots didn’t have the intensity to blot out the dullness and poor logic around them. Plus, we’re still getting this thing with Vince McMahon and Austin Theory, which now includes a pencil eraser. Sure, Jan.
One month is too long for WWE, as they’re doing their best to fill the hours. Only problem is their best isn’t that great this week.
Corey Graves summed up my feelings on Raw best: Of all the things I’ve seen, that was the most recent.

Grade: D

grade D. Lol. Na so e bad?

Debroslink:
My view concerning Roman Reigns is well documented on this thread. Give him mic, and he will choke. The 'face' of the show should almost always start Raw, but even the management knows that he sucks.

We know he's gonna win the main event of Wrestlemania and that's gonna be the most boring end to Wrestlemania of all time. I honestly don't know what Vince saw in him that made him love Roman like that, when we have guys like Strowman and Rollins hanging around.

this comment was from 2018, but the truth is Roman sucked then. Comparing him then and now is like night and day. Same guy. What changed?

pu7pl3:
Now that ROH Is no more which company are they under now?

from what I've read, it seems ROH is going to rebrand into something else.

Young Bucks, Braun Strowman(now Titan), Jay Lethal and FTR were all present at ROH's Final Battle. Strowman made his debut as a member of EC3's stable.

Tonight is the last PPV for ROH.
Without ROH, there would be no AEW and WWE as it is today.
It's a sad day in wrestling apparently.

pu7pl3:
Pro wrestling

it's not even close to an excuse. They should be logical and follow their own rules is all we're asking. Pro-wrestling would be ton better if promotions followed those 2 rules.

pu7pl3:
WWE SMACKDOWN REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS


When Friday Night SmackDown kicked off this week with Sami Zayn rolling his way to the ring with a boot on his foot and a neck brace on, flanked by two nurses, I knew we were in for something magical. He cried conspiracy, because of course he did, and then Paul Heyman showed up, surprisingly enough, and the two exchanged some barbs before nearly getting into a physical confrontation that was only stopped when Brock Lesnar showed up, wearing overalls, no less.
I forgot he was going to be on this show, and oh boy were we in for a delight.
Look at the way these two interact:

https://youtu.be/cPKNRenASo8


Right away they get you laughing, as Zayn responds to Lesnar, with a shit eating grin, asking him “how you doing” with an incredulous “I’m not great!” Brock keeps joshing with him, genuinely treating him like a friend he’s giving a hard time to. He plays it so well. The way he nods his head and looks at the ground right at the end of the clip after Zayn tells him how much his feelings are hurt over the situation makes me lose it all over again.
These two are fantastic together. There’s a real chemistry here you don’t often see with Brock. He invites Sami out to Canada where they can bond over hunting and fishing and just generally being Canadian dudes in Canada, and even starts wheeling him out, even when Zayn seems less than enthused. You get the idea that this is just Friend Lesnar, and there’s a terrifying charm to it.
As entertaining as it all is, there was a payoff to all this.
Heyman, seeing this display of fondness and affection, reacts with a mixture of confusion and disgust. Who the hell has Lesnar turned into? Is this really how it is when Brock is left to his own devices? The trademark aggressive nature is still there — you see how pushy he tends to get, even while being friendly — it’s just lurking underneath. As it turns out, he needs someone to help bring that out of him.
As it turns out, that someone is Paul Heyman.
His advocate.
They go right back into the schtick, with Heyman giving him that legendary introduction and Lesnar feeding off it as he goes, growing ever stronger, eventually unleashing a burst of impressive violence on the two nurses before doing the same to poor Sami Zayn, all while Heyman was smiling along. Just like the good ol’ days.
So, then, we’re right back to Final Boss Brock and right back to wondering if Heyman really is still on his side or not. Roman Reigns, for the record, was not on this show and therefore unable to get involved in any of it. Surely he will have much to say about this when he returns next week.
Well done all around.
Later in the show, Lesnar met up with Adam Pearce for a truly bizarre segment where he went into detail about hunting a moose and killing it and eating it and also hanging it up and naming it “Pearce.” That way he remembers being suspended, which he was actually happy about.
Also, Brock uses a flip phone.
https://youtu.be/UQAFq5uHfXk

This guy, man. He sure is something.


All the rest
Shinsuke Nakamura & Rick Boogs defeated Los Lotharios in a strangely short match considering they pushed on commentary that the latter team was undefeated since coming over to SmackDown. Seems odd to just throw that away for a random match on a random Friday night, but such is life in WWE.

Oh no, there’s a higher authority again.
Drew McIntyre was told the higher authority didn’t want him in the battle royal, and that also he needs to stop taking that big ass sword to the ring, probably because he tried to murder some guys with it. Even without it, he beat Sheamus clean in the middle of the ring and he “continues to roll on Friday nights,” as Michael Cole put it. He got his sword stolen by Happy Corbin and Madcap Moss, though.

I’m not sure how crazy I am about debuting Xia Li, she who helps the oppressed, by having her make the save for Naomi. It makes sense from that character perspective, I suppose, but I strongly dislike how one-sided this entire program between Naomi and Sonya Deville has been. Naomi badly needs a win here, somewhere, somehow, and without someone else coming to save the day for her. In this case, Li was more or less just acting as an equalizer, and there’s still time to put Naomi over, but they’ve been dragging this out too long and now the focus turned to the big debut they hyped for weeks and is much less about Naomi finally getting hers. It’s fine, it just didn’t sit right as I watched it live. Your mileage may vary.

Toni Storm was given a “championship contender’s match” against the SmackDown women’s champion herself, Charlotte Flair, and she got the trash beat out of her. She won by disqualification because of it, of course, but it was done in such a way that Flair decided she was done with someone she sees as underneath her and went about making that clear in a very physical manner, regardless of the rules. We’ll see if this somehow means Storm gets another match but Sasha Banks buddied up with her earlier in the night, so perhaps we aren’t far away from her getting involved once more.

The main event of this show was a triple threat tag team match pitting Raw Tag Team Champions RK-Bro vs. SmackDown Tag Team Champions The Usos vs. The New Day in a match that would decide, as they kept pushing all throughout the evening, the best tag team in all of WWE. Naturally, the match was entirely built around making the crowd want Randy Orton to tag in, his doing so, running wild, and then getting taken out late to give Xavier Woods and Kofi Kingston time to steal the match. Immediately, commentary said “they’re the greatest tag team in WWE tonight.” Funny how they added “tonight” onto that. It was a fun match, though.

I’m a big Lesnar fan, and loved all this interaction with Zayn, so this show was fun for me. The non-Lesnar stuff was mostly bland, though there was plenty of solid wrestling throughout the night.

Grade: B-

my question is what's the use of the brand split and the "Survivor Series is the only time RAW and SmackDown get to compete in a year" if RAW and SmackDown tag team can compete any time they want. It's becoming ridiculous.

Young MJF with Rated RKO

I feel bad for Hardy

Scott Steiner's mathematics promo in Impact Wrestler. Funny.

Dem don release Jeff Hardy. He was offered rehab but rejected it.

What do you guys think of the fan's comment on SmackDown?

See 2 adults crying. Who knows why?

What do you feel about the man's opinion on Bryan Danielson and CM Punk's match routine?

Is there any other wrestler in the business with 8 packs asides Ricochett?

pu7pl3:
WWE NXT WARGAMES REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS


Let’s talk NXT WarGames.
Case of the P.T.A.
There was a moment in the men’s WAAAARGAAAAAMES match when every individual feud had a moment to shine. Grayson Waller landed an elbow drop from the heavens on top of a defenseless LA Knight. Tony D’Angelo put Pete Dunne in a swinging neckbreaker from the top rope. Oh, and he had a crowbar around the Bruiserweight’s throat. Dexter Lumis reappeared to chase off a nosey Trick Williams! And then there were the main four: Tommaso Ciampa, Johnny Garagno, Bron Breakker, and Carmelo Hayes.
Those four had multiple moments that changed the temperature of the match. Whether it was Johnny and Melo during the match’s first five minutes, Ciampa calling in an Air Raid on Bron with a metal trash can breaking his fall (trash cans don’t really break falls), or the multiple mini DIY reunions perfectly in flow with the match.
The beauty of this particular WarGames match is it’s steeped in history. We’re talking about a battle between NXT’s past and its future, so everything has to count. That context is the only way a freaking crutch pops the crowd. They know what it means to the wrestlers, to the brand, and why its appearance is momentous. But if you get your Sherlock Holmes on, you’ll notice it was the Black and Gold team doing most of the callbacks. “Purple,” you’re saying to yourself, “of course they had the callbacks. They’re the team with all the history!” And you’re 100 percent correct. At a certain point, focusing too much on the past and the way things were done can inhibit one from focusing on the present and what’s happening now. And that’s how The Black and Gold walked away as losers.
Team 2.0’s number one rule was there are no rules. They’re the ones who bought in the plunder. They’re the ones who locked the cage door to use the numbers game to their advantage even if it was for just a few extra seconds. Melo and Bron’s crew didn’t have it easy, but they used every edge—no pun intended. Hey Beth!—they possessed to stall, punish, or surprise their counterparts who believed they just weren’t ready. That means we had several near falls, a lot of momentum swings, and many moments where the Black and Gold crew figured they had the entire thing wrapped like presents, mummies, or sandwiches.
Which brings us to the closing moments of the match. As I said, it was all about the four main players in our performance. Johnny announced this was his first WarGames and it might be his last. It only makes sense that he Ciampa showed off the moves and chemistry that made DIY, well, DIY. If that teamwork and showmanship ended the match and sent Team 2.0 crying? That’s pure poetry. And it’s what almost happened.
After a Meeting in the Middle put Bron out of commission, it was Melo shooting at Ciampa and Gargano. A thumb to the eye here, a low blow there, and it looked like the North American champ was ready to make history. Then that DIY teamwork kicked in again, as Gargano held Melo long enough for Ciampa to nail the champ with a knee to the back of his head, with Johnny taking some damage in the process.
Ciampa grabbed Melo, positioned him near a table placed ever-so-properly in a corner, and prepped him for a Fairytale Ending. Yet, somehow, through all that, they lost sight of the Big Bad Booty Nephew. Seriously, how do you take your eyes off of a human that large? Anyway, in one of the best moments of the night, Bron speared Ciampa through the table right as the NXT champ lifted Hayes into the air. It was poetry in motion because it said so much in less than 15 seconds. The NXT Champion took his eye off his biggest challenge because he doesn’t think he deserves a shot. While taking his sweet time to finish the match, he was caught off guard by that same man, put through a table, and then powerslammed for the three-second tan.
It wasn’t the greatest WarGames, but it was a damn good story, a satisfying ending, and the boys put on a hell of a show.
More importantly? I have no idea where we go from here. As someone who wants surprises from his wrestling, that’s the best place in which to be.
If you didn’t know already, it’s official now: 2.0 season has begun.


Separation Anxiety
The question going into the women’s WarGames match—for me at least—was whether the babyface squad could get on the same book, much less the same page. Everyone had their own agendas and that normally leads to at least a mild case of chaos. Opposites attract but they can also repel. Nope, that’s not how science works, but you get my point.
In the end, the story was about the rookie and youngest person in the entire match: Cora Jade. Jade, the third entrant, wrestled with something to prove. And who can blame her? Her teammates and her opponents are champs, former champs, or wrestling legends. Of course she goes after Dakota Kai with her skateboard. Of course she goes after everyone like a rabid dog. And, of course, she took the riskiest high risk of the match.
With her squad placing Jacy Jayne on a table, Cora went to the top of the cage. High on adrenaline, and, again, needing to prove her self, Jade goes for a Senton. I say goes for because she landed awkwardly. Sure, anytime you land on someone, it’s not a smooth landing, but you normally don’t land on your shoulder either. Cora held on to that shoulder and was clearly in agony. After some discussion with the referees, it looked like Cora was on her way out. But Dr. Io Sharai wasn’t having any of that. Sharai popped Jade’s shoulder back into place after telling everyone she would handle it.
Cora nursed her shoulder for the rest of the match while the fighters fought. And fought they did. Trash cans, tables, and utter violence. At this point, Raquel González, Kay Lee Ray, and Sharai were just trying to protect their injured partner.
But then something happened. Once Mandy Rose entered and the match “officially” started, Cora summoned the Power of Greyskull, and broke up a potential match ender with a Kendo stick. Once again, that adrenaline kicked in and she managed to get a few shots in before getting a surprise rollup pin on Jayne.
The one-armed woman in a wrestling match scored the W for her team, and the biggest one of her career to this point. A fun opener that had a couple sloppy moments, but props on the ending that makes sense based on the main story the match conveyed.


The Rest
No New Friends
Kyle O’Reilly is done with affiliations and friends. O’Reilly and Von Wagner—still an awful name—put up a really good fight against Imperium. But that good fight didn’t equate to a meaningful win. Their newfound friendship wasn’t enough for the longtime chemistry the champs developed. Kyle fell victim to an Imperium Bomb and unloaded his frustration on his partner and only friend in NXT. Kyle’s paranoia got the best of him because he doesn’t trust a soul anymore. Good match with an interesting twist in the end.
I hope the Powers That Be weren’t going for a heel moment there because the crowd was fully on Kyle’s side. Almost as if to say, “Von Wagner, we’re just not that into you.”

Luck Be a (Grimey) Lady, Tonight
The right man won. Does it matter that he had a handful of tights? Not really. The whole thing between Cameron Grimes and Duke Hudson is about outplaying the opponent. Poker isn’t about playing the cards; it’s about playing the person in front of you. Bluffing and hustling are built into the rules. In that context, I have no problem with a babyface playing loose with the rules to get a win. Another good match with the added bonus of seeing Duke Hudson humbled with a God-awful haircut. Seriously, a bowl cut is better.

Get Your Weight Up
Roderick Strong walked into the Performance Center as Cruiserweight champ and he leaves the same way he entered. I’m not sure how to feel about the match because if Joe Gacy isn’t going to win, what was the point? Not even saying I’m a fan of dude, but it’s just weird.
Gacy stopping Harland from harming Ivy Nile was the most interesting part of the match. Other than that? Meh.

This was a fun show for the most part. The one match I wasn’t feeling is the match I predicted I wouldn’t feel, while the rest was, unsurprisingly, consistent. We also got a lot of vignettes in this show.
It didn’t need to be anywhere near 3 hours and it felt like they were dragging it out for Sports Entertainment Reasons ™. The two matches that needed to stand out did, while setting the stage for a very interesting week of television.

Grade: B+

so guys, between the old school NXT(black and gold) and it's current new school(2.0) based on their little time under the sun, which is your individual preference yet?

pu7pl3:
For real?

yep. I am as shocked as you are. I guess Ric being in the news lately for the bad reasons after his infamous Dark Side of the Ring story affected their relationship in a bad way.

Chris Jericho is going on tour with his band Fozzy.

Inside reports stating that WWE is planning on retiring the Cruiserweight title.

Charlotte Flair and Andrade have broken up.

pu7pl3:
So a wrestler that can't cut a decent promo that will be able to sell what would have been weeks of storytelling

yes, because the good guy vs bad guy story already sells itself. I know you'll find it hard to believe because it looks too simple to be true, but you and I know in wrestling it's the simple things that work.

pu7pl3:
It will be too boring and robotic please...there needs to be character development and huge cumepance for absolute wrestling experience

no it won't, it would rather be taken seriously and and not silly as opposed to today's product. It won't be boring and robotic because wrestlers will be allowed to be themselves on the mic and in the ring to say and do whatever they want as long as it's along with the promotions' rules while still maintaining a face and heel dynamic, a bit of how it was in the 80s. I know the history of pro-wrestling well enough to know what I'm saying. Pro-wrestling today it's on the wrong track and we need to move on the right one.

pu7pl3:
Cos The Rock was away for long and came back close to Wrestlemania... What would the wrestlers be doing with their time if they are not playing storylines out? Just hanging around in limbo?

My point is where did storylines come to play in the big PPV buyrate? What made you as a fan watch the match? To your question, wrestlers will be cutting promos and WRESTLING.

pu7pl3:
How will you now know who is the good guy and the bad guy? How do people get invested?

What you just explained is basically Boxing/MMA and they are not nearly as entertaining as Pro-wrestling

this is the question i want to hear/see. Personality display comes to play here, what you say in your promos, how you say, facial expression, manner of move execution in the ring, basically acting like the bad or good guy anytime you're on TV. What do you need to do to make people want you to win and make people want you to lose while still being yourself at the same time, that will give you a good pro-wrestler.
This is going to be hard to swallow as I wrote earlier, but in my defense, I'll use Rock vs Cena at WrestleMania 28, the biggest PPV buyrate event in wrestling history, which was sold mainly on ring abilities and PROMOS.

Kaycee7:
Nope. Storylines are integral to what make pro-wrestling what it is. I do admit, sometimes a potentially good match going to shit to further a storyline can be disappointing and frustrating at times but that's a flaw that can be remedied instead of abandoning the storyline format entirely.

my point is it's unnecessary, I already stated what actually needs to be done under Pu7pl3's comment.

pu7pl3:
It's Pro wrestling entertainment...I don't think the promos will carry any weight without the storyline behind it

its pro-wrestling, a combination of sports and entertainment. Have you ever had this feeling when you see an obviously scripted story play out on TV on a wrestling program and it just looks a out of place, doesn't grab your attention, but you watch it because, you know, THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN. Promos will do just fine without scripted stories. Lets just have an official(in no character) coordinate an interview session for and between wrestlers announced for a match for an event, let the wrestlers cut their promos either as a face or heel and watch that PROMOte the match without an unnecessary scripted story. The story writes itself out, good guy vs bad guy.
Anyway I said it's going to be hard to swallow.

This is going to be hard to swallow, but if you think through it, you'll get it. I believe storylines are totally unnecessary in pro-wrestling. What we need for big matches are promos, sports style. Its pro-wrestling, not entertainment.

What do you all think?