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Engineer96: You sure say the older Chime did not-----k the babe.
The man sabi do that thing or may be he has the intention of -------king the girl.
It may not just be father-in-law and daughter-in-law relationship.
Something may be fishy here.
The story has not ended.
This is part 1 and can be likened to Obj and Gbenga story.

No,he is not from the tribe that does that.

Ayomax: lol.... its all abt serving ur country

My brother, some things are more serious that the other, her wedding is most important to her on the hour of the wedding. Its not like she is going to stop the earthquake!

eko ilee: Awolowo via the old Western region government..

I heard he also built

Cadbury's,
PZ
Nestle
Lever brothers (yoruba brothers)
Agip
Total
Guinness

eko ilee: illiterate, apapa, matori, ilupeju and ikeja industrial estates are what's powering Nigeria's industrial activities and one of them alone dwarfs whatever you have in your region combined.

Guy, dont get it twisted, we are not talking of who provided land for the establishment of industries, my question was and still is, who built the industries in Nigeria before and after independence?

Ayomax: some men will be very proud of her

This type of woman may run off from the labour room after delivering one twin, with the remaining twin in her belly to cover a robbery scene live! I bet the husband will be proud of her then.

Ayomax: sorry I don't think her husband is from Nigeria.

Even if he is from the moon, he will find it hard to stomach this abandonment from his runaway bride. Is it that there is no other reporter in the whole of China?

You guys who said its an eastern problem and decided to bury their heads in the sand will now get a rude awakening. Kidnapping is spreading like a viirus and Lagos is the next bus stop.

Are you guys madd? What gives me goose bumps is when I imagine that you all are expecting the country to function properly now or in the future. Nigeria had mudered sleep and will sleep no more.

Supressing meritocracy while promoting mediocrity had been the worst mistake made in the 60's and 70's. Same mediocres are still foistering incompetent leaders on us with crafty exclusion of some tribes from the main corridors of power.

Let us drink to a one Nigeria, united in corruption and perpetual underdevelopment forever. One Nigeria!

Magicdon: you are right bro, he will definitely reject the nobel prize award if they gave wen he was alive. They should go n die wit the Nobel award.

Right now, Achebe's image dwarfs that of the Nobel committee. He is everything they will like to be associated with and more, they will be biting their nails in regret.

Expect a divorce from the angry man.

charcoalblaq: I am a yoruba man from Osun State of Nigeria. I read the book 'there was a country' by Africa's most revered author, Prof Chinua Achebe, and it brought tears to my eyes the destruction our culture has brought upon the most free spirited of all the tribes in Nigeria.

Prof did not lie, and the OP should be shot for assuming he did.

The book came from someone who was right in the middle of everything, he saw death and escaped it on many occasions, wrote a book about his experiences backed by facts as seen in the appendix of his book, and you call it a lie?? Because you are of a different ethnic tribe

Close to 3 million Igbo people died in that WAR!!

100,000 Nigerians died, can you see the difference?


You said all is fair in war, that economic blockade is a weapon of war, but what was the war about? Were the Igbo people fighting Nigerians, or weren't they being killed in all corners of the country by. Northerners in government sponsored progroms!

Awolowo, the great politician, however brilliant promoted said genocide by implying that all is fair in war.

We did this country a great disservice, and honestly, it would never recover from what it had done.


You single out an excellent people, excellent by basis of a culture of independence and true democracy, having excelled far more than any other ethnic group, and you try to destroy their spirit through genocide. The same people ran to seek cover in their hometown away from a country that could not stomach there success and a government who would not recognise their sufferings, so they wanted out, and you say NO to that. Killed them some more, destroyed them economically and every other 'ally's' there are, and then you try to re-write history by writing off the facts of what happened.


There indeed was a country, and Nigeria ate her up.

The truth is out there but Nigerians will never embrace it. Until we do, let us continue to wallow in mutual mistrust which will continue to hold us down.

eko ilee: Awolowo via the old Western region government..

Yes, he also built these companies

Nigercem
E.M. Michelletti
UAC
BATA
Gaylads
A.G. Leventis
Volkswagen
UTC
Julius Berger
Coca cola

chin chin chin chin chin, I am laughing in nupe language.

eko ilee: Sad that you don't know at your age. You missed social studies class in Nigeria...

Nigercem
E.M. Michelletti
UAC
BATA
Gaylads
A.G. Leventis
Volkswagen
UTC
Julius Berger
Coca cola

All owned by Europeans, before the indeginization policy after the war.

eko ilee: Before or after the civil war, it makes no difference because before or after, the major industries and economic activities with the manpower and vision responsible for its creation was never in his region.

The fact that you have government jobs has nothing to do with smartness or ingenuity, it only means while others are building industries and economic base, his people prefered desk jobs and shuffling paper in offices hence the situation today per how you lack the economic and industrial powebase to tie you over.

No, you and the bitter old man got it wrong and that's what's killing you people...

"The elites attracted clients and socially inferior groups not only in the far north, where Islam legitimized the traditional hierarchy, but even in Igboland, an area of southeastern Nigeria where power had been widely dispersed before the 20th century. The elites of the three regions preferred to close ranks to share the fruits of office and to prevent challenges to their positions, but by the time independence was achieved in 1960, policies designed to enhance the security of one regional elite threatened the security of others."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Nigeria

I saw Hausa and Igbo on this quote, still looking for Yoruba, will be back

eko ilee: Yes, you caught me with your apples and oranges nonsense...

Eko ilee, who built the industries in Nigeria both before and after independence?

eko ilee: Apples and oranges.

Leisure traveling and shopping has nothing to do with millions of ibo people working and remitting money home to feed their families back in their villages.

You slow small sha...

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Keep twisting, I caught you back there and you know it.

eko ilee: Before or after the civil war, it makes no difference because before or after, the major industries and economic activities with the manpower and vision responsible for its creation was never in his region.

The fact that you have government jobs has nothing to do with smartness or ingenuity, it only means while others are building industries and economic base, his people prefered desk jobs and shuffling paper in offices hence the situation today per how you lack the economic and industrial powebase to tie you over.

No, you and the bitter old man got it wrong and that's what's killing you people...

So, who built the industries?

eko ilee: The only reason why people leave their own family and the comfort of their own home to do hard labor in another man's land is survival and greener pasture. Looking for your daily bread and economic survival is not adventure.

Look up the meaning of adventure because you obviously don't know the meaning.

Adventure ko, escapade ni...

So, OBJ AND Stella travels abroad to "do hard labour in another mans land" when they go on shopping and pleasure in foreign countries? Look again in the mirror, you will see that you have grown two horns and a long goatee, you are a goat!

eko ilee: Again and unfortunately for the old man and his warped tribal supremacy. What exactly did they wiped out.?

What realities have changed on the ground. ? What's the present physical, political and economic condition88s in his iboland against Yorubaland? Is Yorubaland not home to millions of his people and are they still not troooing to Yorubaland daily? How many Yoruba people do you see trooping to iboland?

That tribal supremacy rubbish exist only on the pages of his fictional book and it has nothing to do with the day to day reality of via own people.

That is where you constantly miss the point, what Achebe meant was that before the start of the civil war, between 1930 and 1950 the Igbos were able to climb into juicy positions of government and power because of their adventurous spirit and natural adaptive characteristics. He was not talking of today and where the Igbos are, he was talikg of 1930-50.

Sometimes your problem is that you will not understand anything and you launch off to attack anybody with your blind arguments borne out of bitterness. Just sit back and learn about your life history from Prof. Chinua Achebe.

eko ilee: Same way the people of lagos could not believe that the people they welcomed and showered with hospitality could turn around and bomb them in the middle of the night like ungrateful and mean spirited cowards, the same man whose kinsmen men showered the people of lagos with evil joined the same perpetrators to later invade their land. Maybe the old man forgot all about that because of amnesia or old age got to him, either way , he was not only a bitter and troubled man, he was a coward, mean spirited and bitter man.

One of your people said something about the dangers of single stories, but unfortunately, you people eat, drink and get high on the same single stories

Nobody welcomed anybody, listen to this;

Had the Igbo been a minor ethnic group of a few hundred thousand, their menace might have been easily and quiety contained. But their numbers ran in the millions. As J.P.Clark's fine image of "ants filling out of the wood," the Igbo moved out of their forest home, scattered, and virtually seized the floor.

By this small quote, it is clear that nobody welcomes the Igbo, their adventurous spirits carries them to places unimaginable.

CyberG: First achebeism means nothing. He had no political views while alive. Political view is different from ethnic/tribal view on which he built his life. He should have left Lagos on the first day for what did he do or say when his people were killing leaders from the north or south west? When he Ironsi refused to prosecute the coupist, what did achebe do or say?Nothing! No wonder he could never get over his bitterness for he and his folks got really served!

Achebeism is a political concept of freedom and liberty and is steadily gaining ground in many world nations, I am not surprised you are oblivious of this thought process because you are a Nigerian, and so you have that age old custom of burying your heads in the sands of history.

A HISTORY OF ETHNIC TENSION AND RESENTMENT.

"I have written in my small book entitled 'The trouble with Nigeria' that Nigerians would probably achieve consensus on no other matter other that their common resentment of the Igbo. The origin of the national resentment of the Igbo is as old as Nigeria and quite as complicated. But it can be summarized thus: The Igbo culture, being receptive to change, individualistic, and highly competitive, gave the Igbo man an unquestioned advantage over his compatriots in securing credentials for advancement in Nigerian colonial society. Unlike the Hausa/Fulani he was unhindered by a wary religion, and unlike the Yoruba he was unhampered by traditional hierarchies. This kind of creature, fearing no god or man, was custom made to grasp the opportunities, such as were, of the white man's dispensations. And the Igbo did so with both hands. Although the Yoruba had a huge historical and geographical head start, the Igbo wiped them out of their handicap in one fantastic burst of energy in the twenty years between 1930 and 1950."

And........

"The problems of the Nigerian federation were well known, but I somehow had felt that peharps this was part of a nation's maturation, and that given time we would solve our problems. Then, suddenly, this incredible, horrific experience happened-not just to a few people but to millions, together. I could not escape the impact of this trauma happening to millions at the same time. Suddenly I realized that the only valid basis for existence is the one that gives security to you and your people. It is as simple as that"

By the time the soldiers and mobs started cleansing Igbos from the north and West, Achebe had this to say;


"I was one of the last to flee Lagos, I simply could not bring myself to accept that I could no longer live in my nation's capital, although the facts clearly said so. My feeling toward Nigeria was one of profound disappointement. Not because mobs were hunting down and killing innocent civilians in many parts, especially in the north, but because the federal government sat by and let it happen"

eko ilee: unfortunately for the bigoted and tribalistic coward mod, you cam only hide behind your mod rubbish while you perpetrate your tribalistic agenda, you cam not dictate to me how to spell or pronounce anything because if your your own and.your kinsmen low self esteem since it doesn't bother me how your kinsmen basterdize other people name everyday in every thread, the insecurity over name is yours and never will be mine.

Back to topic, again, the only relevant recognition as far as NL is concerned is the hall of shame recognition. Period.

Also again, it was cowardly to sit in a foreign country while fanning hatred, bigotry and doom and gloom against your own country and countrymen. That was his was legacy.

Nice bitter comment.

alj harem: You see op you come across as an unserious fellow. LOL

WHAT IS ACHEBEISM

My friend, it seems you are swimming in an ocean of iberiberism

otokx: and people will still enter young shall grow motors.

No, you should now try Old shall die motors, ewu.

Ikenna351, you said anybody who intentionally spells names of leaders wrong will face bans, let me see if you will not ban Eko ile for the intentional misspelling of Achebe. I have attached the evidence here. Bluetooth also mis spelt Ojukwu. I am waiting.

https://www.nairaland.com/1264218/understanding-politcs-achebeism

[quote author=~Bluetooth]The same old devil that couldn't live in Nigeria but chose to stay in the US.Even ojuku had more respect for returning home despite running away during the war.

politically,ojuku is more recognized than ashebe though for the bad side of history.[/quote]Fine, every Nigerian who choses to live abroad is a devil according to you?