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werlay: Like Fela sang during military rule "suffering and smiling" , but now we are suffering and crying.
My point: Nigeria was far better then.

In what ways?

[quote author=distribute inc.]are they still in power?
has the corruption ceased?
infact more corruption is being perpetrated today.The Nigerian system is faulty,we worship money over values,the ex leaders are products of this system,where money is glorified above all else...the system needs a paradigm shift-let us embrace values and shun rich men who got their money through unscrupulous means.A people deserve the type of leaders they get.[/quote]They are not in power but the shitt they shitt for aso rock is still smelling.

rooftech: no body knows the truth.its like the 2nd civil war has started and am not informed.i heard nig mopol training school has been torched. bye bye naija

It is a good development for this nation to scatter, what did we all gain in over 50 years being handcuffed with a strange tribe who may never understand your peculiarities.

Will be back with more quotes.

seguun: My question is only meant to be sure that I'm not anwsering your question in futility. Abi! What is the use of explaining ritual money to someone who doesn't believe in God if perhaps you are one. God is the root of all spirituality if you (by chance) you don't believe in his existence, we can as well go into that discussion before moving to the next level.So my question is highly logical.

Where in the bible, koran or any other religious books can you give us a quote to support your ritual beliefs? Dont bring God into this if you cannot prove he talked about it.

toluene12: so u guys actually expect someone to come online and admit to occultic practices.
its like u guys dont know the meaning of occultism
Where in the world is occultism open or branded as a theatre show?
Its secret and engulfed in darkness. U never know until you enter, those outside only have a vague idea of whats its all about.
And trust me u never want to know.
And in case u dont know, most of their activities are against the laws of the land - just like armed robbery - thus its not something for open discussion.
I dont know if you guys were grown up during the otokoto saga of the 1990s in owerri. Most men involved in the case have been convicted and sentenced to death by the state.
There was also the case of some 3 osu boys who were rounded up by the police after purchasing new hummer jeeps. The 3 confessed to money rituals.
Besides industrialization has nothing to do with cultural belief system of the people, in fact in most cases they do co-exist.
India is an emerging economy but they are also rich in black magic and occultic sects.
japan u mentioned also has Myo-o and aum shinrikyo sects.

Sorry to burst your bubble, there is nothing like money rituals, can you prove its real with a personal experience instead of your long epistle of "them say, them say"

Civil war thingz! Am sipping my alomo bitters under one huge tree in the bushes of Ikot Ekpene, far away from the shelling of the 2nd Nigerian civil war in Borno.

honeric01: Make una dey continue to shed blood o, the land is getting more cursed.

Boko haram kills innocents and the guilty

JTF or whatever kills innocents and the guilty

So what exactly is the difference here? the innocent at the end of the day still suffers.

So it's like being between the ocean and the deep blue sea.

Boko haram kills only innocents. Who was guilty in the churches or bus they bombed?

Is it not right to kill civilians who are used as human shield to confuse the JTF and kill soldiers? Those villagers knows what they were going into partying with boko haram killers. Next time they should run away if they hear say army dey come.

[quote author=St_Black]WAAAAT! "......things that held us together......" . HERE WAT DIS LIAR AND BITTER MAN WHO HATES HIS FELLOW MAN SAID?[/quote]Please, if you have nothing to add to the iseas, please walk away.

Otseh: WHY

Ok.

It is clear from the story that the paster was employed by this couple to solve a spiritual problem for them and allowed him to stay for several days in their house. For them to allow him into their house to splve the husbands business problems means that he is either known to them or comes highly recommended.

A problem must have developed along the line, most likely when he was still in the house, he may have tried to seduce the woman while trying to do his work (or rape her)if he is not a genuine paster. This move may have backfired and the woman was not bough over, she may tell her husband who may have paid money befor this 'pastor' agreed to come for the prayer sessions.

When the couple finds the man out for the fraud he is, they may have tried to collect their money from him since that kind of dishonest man can never invoke Gods blessings to turn around the mans business. When this pastor refused to pay up, the couple now frames him after he leaves their house and report him to the police for stealing panties to shame him. The 10,000 may actually be the fee they paid him to solve the husbands business problems.

I will be back with another theory, I am training to be a detective.

How do you like my theory?

“The white man is very clever. He came quietly and peaceably with his religion. We were amused at his foolishness and allowed him to stay. Now he has won our brothers, and our clan can no longer act like one. He has put a knife on the things that held us together and we have fallen apart.”
― Chinua Achebe, Things Fall Apart

I dont believe this story, na wash. ASK ME WHY.

Them swear for am for village?

He continued thus;

"Having acknowledged these facts, any observer can clearly see how the competitive individualism and the adventurous spirit of the Igbo could have been harnessed by committed leaders for the modernization and development of Nigeria. Nigeria's pathetic attempt to crush these idiosyncrasies rather than celebrate them is one of the fundamental reasons the the country has not developed as it should and has emerged as a laughing stock." Chinua Achebe (2012)

To understand the character of the Igbo, here is a quote credited to the icon himself which even seemed to critique the Igbo themselves, talk of a man with a balanced view to life;

"I will be the first to concede that the Igbo as a group is not without its flaws. Its success can and did carry deadly penalties: the dangers of hubris, overwhelming pride, and thoughtlessness, which invite envy and hatered, or even worse, that can obsess the mind with material success and dispose it to all kinds of crude showiness. There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behaviour that can offend by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness" Chinua Achebe (2012)

eko ilee: The bitter and disgruntled old fictional writer you are talking about and your people in general including you say all the time that you are better and morei superior than other people, you yourself made similar assertions in this thread so the nonsense about ibo man believing that one man is as good as another makes no sense, this is even outside of your mentality. The gross and empty delusions about you better than other people is one of your major and well known warped mentality and character flaws.

You said earlier that your people were better and superior back them because you dominated the civil service when in fact, it had nothing to do with all that, you people just liked sitting behind the desk and shuffling papers and doing oga sir while other people were interested in more meaningful and major endeavors from politics to commerce and industry.


You people really need to get over yourselves because you spend too much time beating your chest, claiming you are better than this and that when in fact, there is nothing under all that rubbish, you people are just shallow and empty and this is obviously as seen all over your land and your people dependent on the same people you claim you are better than for survival.....

Reality is not on your side.

Nobody mentioned the word 'superior' but I know you feel inferior and thats why you keep those bitter comments on instead of debating like a man. What you confuse as chest beating is infact self confidence in action, some might also think it arrogance. But we continue to churn out results like Jose Mourinho at the height of his arrogance. You can see it your way or jump into the lagoon if it pains you too much.

For the second time, read those posts again and see where it says that the Igbo man "believes that one man is as good as the other" If you still dont understand it, enrol for adult education.

[quote author=Ogbuefi_Negro]Interpretation: US is open to the possibility of REGIME CHANGE[/quote]Or a split in 2015 as they predicted/suggested.

eko ilee: That's the problem with you people, in one breath you beat your chest claiming your are the best, you are the smartest, you are superior, then in another breath when confronted with realities, you are all of a sudden the lowly victim and your problem is now the fault of the same people you claim all the time you are better and more superior than.

You people are the most empty and shallow people on earth...


lol @ this confused dude.. we are talking about real industries and industrial estates and he's talking about okporoko and Akpu..... smh

Let me clear your confusion a little, the Igbo may seem to be beating their chest by their actions and composture even when they are not thinking in that direction;

"The rise of the Igbo in Nigerian affairs was due to the self confidence engendered by their own open society and their belief that one man is as good as another, that no condition is permanent. They did not concern themselves with pan-Igbo unity nor were they geared to securing an advantage over non-Igbo Nigerians" Chinua Achebe (2012)

eko ilee: Even to go with your bogus talk. Instead of sitting behind the desk, shuffling papers and doing oga sir and oga sir, why didn't your leaders came up with the same vision, provide land, create clusters of industrial estates for industries and have all the industries on your soil?

Industrial estates is not just about land, its about providing critical planning, lay outs and industrial infrastructures for industries to utilize ...


Guess what, this was done within 5-7 years before Nigeria became a country and while your leaders like zik were peddling the same tribalism and bigotry that was handed down to you confused and bigoted generations..


Common sense and wisdom can not he replaced hate, bigotry and empty tribal supremacy.

It is very obvious that lousy thought process and jundiced mentally is part of you peoples DNA.

It strikes me as odd that you always want to throw insults to use it as a added weight to your shallow thinking. I would have loved it if you can communicate with those bitter languages which is typical of low quality upbringing. Thank you for understanding.

The problem with the Igbo setting up companies in our lands is that your people in the central government will always kill it like before. Remember those post war time policies by Awolowo on second hand clothes and stockfish? What happened to Ibeto after he started importing cement? Obasanjo simply banned cement imports to protect Dangote who was selling at N2,400. It took Yar adua to save the poor masses and he allowed Ibeto to keep bringing in cement. There will always be policies against anything the Igbo starts to do.

I still praise Innoson for his bravery in starting to produce cars in Nigeria. I am also expecting a yoruba man to ban that after Jonathan leaves office.

The Igbos were refining and using their own petrol during the turbulence of civil war. The same engineers may be alive today, but your leaders chose to ignore them and spent trillions building refineries that never work.

Desola: Tribalism aside, only a demented individual would fail to see where the strength in these exchanges lie. Eko has put forth very sound reasoning throughout.

The surprise will be if you fail to stand where your brother stands, even as the floods are threatening to carry him away. That is why we still vote along tribal and religious lines even when your brother is a thief. That is the origins of nepotism and tribalism which Achebe wanted to destroy with Achebeism.

Desola: Wow! Mesmerised by Eko Ile's rebuttals!

Sound cogent arguments and counter arguments from Eko. My head dey swell o.

Welcome Desola, I know you cannot resist the scent of this thread. The trouble with Nigeria is tribalism, we must support our own even when they are losing their shirts in an argument. Meanwhile I had been flogging Eko ile with a long koboko all night till he ran away. Welldone Desola.