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Christianity EtcRe: My Encounter With The Marine World. by vannessa7(f): 12:13pm On Mar 21, 2023
Gurakel123:
How do i get disconnected from spiritual husband totally?
Only genuine Islam can do that, check my profile for my story, it's true.
PoliticsRe: PDP Agent Shot Dead While Dragging Ballot Box With Thugs In Ebonyi State by vannessa7(f): 11:19am On Mar 20, 2023
Advancedpenis:
Wasted animal.

This should be done to all accomodating landlords anytime there is an election in Nigeria too
You are a fuul, that person was trying to stop thug from snatching ballot box, is that a crime? Killing an innocent person is right ba, inhumane
PoliticsRe: I Need To Quit Nairaland by vannessa7(f): 8:06am On Mar 20, 2023
Blizzy9ja:
I have been a nairalander since 2008... No social media platform comes close in terms of brazen, unabated show of tribal and ethnic sentiment and hate towards other tribes and ethnic groups like yoruba nairalanders, from the owner Mr Seun Osewa to his mods that usually feel like demi gods, it is really disgusting.
Lies, igbos started it all, in every thread bashing and cursing Yoruba even when not necessary, such as a Yoruba celebrity issue or achievement, you can't stand it while Yoruba praises and surport any good thing from everywhere including from igbo, it took a while for Yoruba to learn to retaliate, your insults and curses are still the hottest here and it used to be depressing and shocking to read and feel the hatred oozing from igbo until some of us develop a tough skin, up till now I cannot still bring myself to curse and insult online because I won't go to hell because of anyone, I've been here for long too, I had to abandoned my former moniker because it was coined from my late husbands name. Igbos generally are very emotional and aggressive, and you expect people you are bullying not to retaliate. Now I don't allow the insults to get to me, I just report the person when it get too much and I stop seeing post from such troll.
PoliticsRe: Sanwo-Olu Set For Second Term, Wins 18 LGAs by vannessa7(f): 8:55pm On Mar 19, 2023
Mercy2006:
Personally, I would like to know how Gbadebo lost his polling unit because there was no voters suppression and intimidation there.
Neither was ballot snatching.
Does it mean he is not as popular among his people as people were making him out to be?
ROFL,🤣🤣🤣in fact this election has debunk igbo claim that they have the highest population in Lagos which we all know it was a lie, they travels hundreds of kilometer to Lagos how can you be more than the people living in all the neighboring state to Lagos , I'm very sure there is no igbo person that didn't vote LP, lol
CelebritiesRe: Guber Election: Jim Iyke Reacts To Oba Of Lagos' Comment About GRV by vannessa7(f): 2:57pm On Mar 19, 2023
otuomasirichi:
You see the reason why Igbo and Yoruba marriage should be abolished by all means. They rejected Gbadebo Vivour because his mother is Igbo. What's the essence of of marrying an Igbo woman and later see her children as Outcasts or intruders. This is an act of wickedness angry
You think if a full fledge Yoruba man publicly insults all Yorubas and then seek to be elected in any political office Yorubas will still vote for him? You guys always play deaf to the real issue while you keep harping on non issue thus the problem persists. That Gbadebo vivour Rhode should have deleted all those posts and make a public apology, there are full blooded igbos working under Lagos ministries, we all know Desmond Elliot has an igbo mother, yet we support him. It is only when you learn from the past mistakes that you will not repeat it in the future.
PoliticsRe: Guber Polls: Ezekwesili Blasts Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu Over Attack On Igbos In Lagos by vannessa7(f): 9:18pm On Mar 18, 2023
nwekeugochukwu:
Guber Election: Oby Ezekwesili Blasts Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu Over Attack On Igbos In Lagos

Nigeria's former Minister of Education, Oby Ezekwesili took to her Twitter handle to criticize President-elect, Bola Tinubu and the Lagos state governor, Babajide Sanwo-Olu, over the attack meted out during the governorship and House of assembly elections in Lagos state today March 18, IGBERETV reports.

Her post on Twitter reads;


https://twitter.com/obyezeks/status/1637121014105620482?t=PdcuYWaKYijCT3Ukh8a3tw&s=19



https://twitter.com/obyezeks/status/1637128500829200386?s=19[/quote]I used to like this woman because of her role in chibok girls issue, is this political thug thing limited to Lagos alone? What does she have to say about the 15 people killed in Anambra because they voted APGA, can she say she does not know that the activities of thugs may not be orchestrated by the party flag bearer because party members can take matters into their hands, can we blame Peter Obi for the Yoruba person killed in okota today? Truly, common sense is not by age and education does nothing for bigotry.
PoliticsRe: 2023 Lagos Governorship Election Results From Polling Units by vannessa7(f): 8:55pm On Mar 18, 2023
BeauBragnar11:
You must be very stupid if you think you want to school a Chartered Accountant on Finance and investment. grin grin
uncourt, tactless and ill mannered as expected, chartered accountant indeed!!
PoliticsRe: Rhodes Vivour's Threat About Lagos Should Not Be Ignored By Police - Reno Omokri by vannessa7(f): 8:48pm On Mar 18, 2023
Wiseandtrue:
But you were also silent on Oluomo's threat and today violence was recorded in almost all the polling unit yet na LP own you carry for head

Reno Omokri, I hope the appointment they promised you is worth it undecided
A governorship candidate should not be in the same category as MC Oluomo, what MC Oluomo said although reprehensible is expected of him and is not a surprise, also it's in the news that's political thugs cause mayhem everywhere all over Nigeria today including the south east . It is when an intending governor stoop so low that we should raise eye brow, shows the type of governor he would make if he won, God forbid.
PoliticsRe: 2023 Lagos Governorship Election Results From Polling Units by vannessa7(f): 8:29pm On Mar 18, 2023
Chechem:
Why all these hatred for we the Igbos? This shows that we have never been one Nigeria and may never truly will...

Its really disheartening seeing the comments here. What has the Igbos done? We registered to vote in our location of businesses and residences, this is a place we spend more time than our hometown, I believe we even have more investments in Lagos and you are saying we should not freely express our rights to vote? It is only fair that we be part of politics there, even if its the minute part of voting!

Are we trying to say there are no Hausas and Yorubas that registered and voted in the South East, South-South and North? I am in Owerri, I personally voted with some Hausa guys in my polling unit and that is how it is supposed to be... So why all these hatred?

Please, we Igbos are full fledged Nigerians, we have the right to vote wherever we register to vote, stop all the harrassment and hatred... For many years I voted in Rivers peacefully but I am from Imo. I registered and voted there because I am among the people the winners will govern.

Moreover, we are all first humanbeings before anything else. PEACE!!!
Do you mean the insults and curses your people heaped on the Yorubas and any other people who don't see things their way is unknown to you, even here right now they are busy cursing out a guy who explained why he didn't vote LP, God has not created any people with shock absorber for insult so much more that they will embrace and love the people cursing them all the time, tell your people the truth like Soludo did, igbos may never rule Nigeria because election, like any business is about people who are the customers you are trying to woo and the customers is always right or they patronize someone else, you can't curse them to love you.
PoliticsRe: 2023 Lagos Governorship Election Results From Polling Units by vannessa7(f): 8:20pm On Mar 18, 2023
BeauBragnar11:
Just like the image attached below.
We'll keep buying up properties from your broke parents and systematically take your ancestral lands and there's nothing you and your likes can do about it. grin grin grin

You and your parents would be homeless soon. grin grin
So selling land and houses which is one of the best investment tool is now a bad thing, many people buy land and build houses as speculation for future appreciation in value and it is done all over the world especially in America, to the igbos it means the person will be homeless while you take over his land, no wonder igbo land is still full of forests till today except for the state capitals, I was mouth agape when I had to tour igbo land on my job when I saw that you people practically live in the forest because you refuse to embrace other people, you will see one house far away in the bush with forest all around it and the next house will be miles away, if Yorubas are like that you won't be migrating here in droves claiming developer. Igbos are traders and surprisingly see any people who don't trade as poor, FYI Real Estate investment is a very lucrative investment which hardly fail if you sell at the right time and it's one of the many career endeavors Yorubas are known for. You think that person selling a house has nowhere to stay and they are selling off the roof over their head, use your brain.
PoliticsRe: 2023 Lagos Governorship Election Results From Polling Units by vannessa7(f): 7:55pm On Mar 18, 2023
Believeintruth:
Yorubas don't know any calculation they used thuggery and intimidation. It is a cowardly way to win if to sat e sure why didn't they remove thigs let people vote. So many were disenfranchised. Stop all this glorifying most Yorubas should be ashamed of themselves.
As if there is no election thuggery in south east that are even worst than in Yoruba land, remove the log in your eyes before pointing at the speck in my eyes, read the news.
PoliticsRe: Igbo Are Shooting Yoruba Lagos indegene by vannessa7(f): 2:01pm On Mar 18, 2023
Coldsperm:
Genocide which year? You forgot that Igbos also retaliated countless times and massacred them as well. Hear this, Yorubas without the help of other tribes can't withstand Igbos in Nigeria. Know this and know peace.
You are of indomie generation, if it happens and you survive it you will tell your great grandchildren the story over and over again.
PoliticsRe: Igbo Are Shooting Yoruba Lagos indegene by vannessa7(f): 1:45pm On Mar 18, 2023
bdon123:
Shut up.Truth is if u guys keep attacking igbos in Lagos....remember say dem strong n get mind pass una o.Igbo bois no dey run frm fight o,no be by making noise....me i dey type frm north like this fa,jst say make i remind una
When I saw the genocide against igbo in the north several times I wept bitterly for them but obviously you guys are asking for such all over again in Yoruba land, you can't pity the many igbo with investment in Yoruba land, you can't use your brain.
PoliticsRe: Lagos Police Arrest 53-Year-Old Woman With Laminated INEC Materials (Photo) by vannessa7(f): 11:17pm On Mar 17, 2023
GeneralPulal:
Igbos fixation and obsession towards Lagos is just too much. They’ve abandoned their region completely. E con be like say nah only Lagos election wan happen tomorrow..

They don’t care about good governance. They just wanna win by fire by force..

I’m glad yoruba have seen thru the,,ir hypocrisy & bigotry..
They won Lagos election last time because they rigged seriously and because of voters apathy of many Yorubas , yet they accused everybody of rigging, they are obsessed with Lagos, they want to swindle Yoruba of Lagos same way they swindle people of their hard earned money as master scammers.
PoliticsRe: Lagos LP Writes A Petition To DSS Over MC Oluomo's Comment & Oro by vannessa7(f): 9:16pm On Mar 17, 2023
trutharena:
Lol 😂

Writing petition about Oro.

They no born Lagos police well to stop the Oro festival. Who born them?
It further goes to show they are anti people, they are challenging and criticizing the age long culture of the people they want to govern in a democracy, which means they are interlopers, they are not part of us, another bastard attitude, Yorubas have a better way of handling elders and traditions especially in this case when the oro has nothing to do with the election, it holds in the dead of the night, voting LP means losing our selves, more like recolonization by a foreign people, God forbid.
PoliticsRe: This Is Why There Aren't Many South Westerners In The East (pictures) by vannessa7(f): 6:51pm On Mar 17, 2023
MaliCampus:
Igbos in Lagos are doing far better than the Yorubas in Lagos in every aspect,the major reason you all are crying that Igbo want to take over your land.,I heard Igbos are now flocking to Ikorodu,very soon we will also dominate that area.lols
What igbos like to tell themselves to feed their overbloated ego, delusions.
PoliticsRe: "Stay At Home If You Won’t Vote APC" – MC Oluomo Warns Igbos In Lagos State by vannessa7(f): 8:25am On Mar 17, 2023
easyfem:
im not in support of mc oluomo on dix but ibos wahala too much in lagos , they make this obidient fight hard for us that support obi....
You are supporting Obis movement because you lack knowledge, go through this and be educated,

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing/19#117559848
PoliticsRe: Lagos Guber: You Want One Nigeria, Yet You Want Igbos To Leave Lagos - Aloy by vannessa7(f): 8:12am On Mar 14, 2023
Masterito:
I honestly hate when politicians makes some foolish ones divide us. Yorubas and Ibos have healthy relationship but politicians always find a way to divide us.
Is it politicians that put the words on your mouth that Lagos is no man's land and every other profanities you people banter around, is it politicians that made that vivour Rhode to publicly insult Yoruba and still have the audacity to want to govern Yoruba, can Yorubas go to the south east and be shouting Anambra is no man's land? You people always acting as if you have monopoly of offense, smh
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Share Their Experiences With The Agberos In Onitsha by vannessa7(f): 4:16pm On Mar 13, 2023
Lashist:
What regulation??🤣🤣. Do you realize that the agberos don't even obey court orders as well? Omo you dey talk like mumu. The situation in the said onitsha also happens in lagos where[b] touts at busstops harasses people they think look good to extort money from them. Or they see you are driving and stop your car to collect money by all means[/b]. Stop acting like lagos isn't the head office of lawlessness. My point is that agbero even have mouth than you in a court. [b]The govt will listen to this agbero first before they keep someone like you alive. [/b]You complain about agberos everyday but bigotry don enter so now you want to defend the agberos with your life...isn't that funny?? cheesy
The bolded is not true about Lagos agbero (NURTW), those are the works of pick pocket and street touts,, if you enter a bus at the pack they will even help you to secure your property if you forget it in a bus, their fights is only with themselves and drivers.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Share Their Experiences With The Agberos In Onitsha by vannessa7(f): 10:09am On Mar 13, 2023
Lashist:
Everyone knows mumu like you will talk. As long as there is hunger in naija, these agberos will spring up everywhere. What you should look at is are govt making these agberos in anambra or other parts of naija big men? Those ones are motor park touts which are everywhere. But MC oluomo that is a known agbero has backings from lagos state govt which shouldn't be so. How many touts in igbo land do you know that has govt backup like oluomo or popular like him?? Name them if you can
They have government backing to be able to regulate their activities because in south west we are more brain than brawn, we realized blacklisting them will not make them go away rather they become more dangerous or armed robbers. At least now they have a limit they operate withing and you will see them warning their members against anything that can disturb the peace of the society and make government angry, even right now the government is still trying to proscribe them and they know, nobody is supporting their activities but just managing the bad situation so it does not escalate to the like of Onitsha.
PoliticsRe: RHODES-VIVOUR'S PARENTS SPEAKS OUT. FAMILY PICTORIAL EVIDENCE INCLUDED. by vannessa7(f): 12:15am On Mar 12, 2023
Konwan:
You're probably blind, deaf and dumb or suffering from selective amnesia or in comatose. Which one of them applies to you? Are proud of your thuggery xenophobia, tribalism and primordial bigotry? Shut up and sit down.
Your folks needs education seriously. You've lost your glory Awolowo worked hard for. Hd will be heartbroken in his grave 😡😡😡😡😡
For all your profanities proverb 26:27, what is the use of education to a classless, tactless and crude set of people, even if the entire Yoruba should abandon education as you deeply desire, we will still be light years ahead of you and you will turn around and start emulating us as usual. Keep deceiving yourself.
RomanceRe: Advise Needed Pls, I Am Planning To Start A Family by vannessa7(f): 8:29pm On Mar 11, 2023
deavicky:
you people just only allow people to interpret the bible to you. Read that account of the Bible verywell you see that the servant was sent to that land to find a wife for isaac.
And he asked for divine help in finding the right person which he clearly received
RomanceRe: Advise Needed Pls, I Am Planning To Start A Family by vannessa7(f): 4:00pm On Mar 11, 2023
My advice to you is to go ahead and get married because if you postpone marriage even till 50 you will still spend some time solving whatever challenge you are meant to experience in marriage because living in close proximity with another person will bring out some new character in you and it depends on who you are, for some it might not be too difficult to adjust for others it needs years to pass through the huddle of marriage and get used to each other, the day you decide to do it is the day you start solving whatever challenge that might be waiting for you maritally so the earlier you do it the better so you can grow past that stage and start enjoying your marriage.

the advantage of marrying early outweigh the disadvantage. To avoid divorce just make sure the girl is cool headed because females don't easily mature into settling down until late twenties and early thirties unless the gentle ones among us, a twenty two year old female can divorce you when challenges come unless she is the gentle type, also involve God in chosing a wife. Research has also found out that most billionaires became one after marriage unless you have special talent.
RomanceRe: Advise Needed Pls, I Am Planning To Start A Family by vannessa7(f): 3:43pm On Mar 11, 2023
deavicky:
sorry I had to come In here. first don't see me like I'm against the bible but let the truth be told. God does not give anybody wife. The only person God gave wife was Adam and Adam blamed God for that. Since then God washed his had from our wife matter. When Adam eat the forbidden fruit God asked him Adam why did u eat that fruit. His word were "it is the woman u gave me" meaning if God had not given him Eve he wouldn't had eaten the fruit. He could be right away because the fruit had been there ever since before even showed up.
And that is why down the line He said ya who find a wife finds a good thing and obtain favor from God.
Note here, he didn't say ye whom I give a wife. Please get that. It our soul responsibility to find ourselves a wife. But u can still prove me wrong by stating categorically any body God had told to go a and marry a particular lady in the bible.
You are so wrong, I wonder what they teach you in churches nowadays, you mean when you ask Almighty God to give you the right spouse for you He will just ignore you, when He said we should ask Him for what we need, did he exclude marriage from what we can add and is there a verse stating that in your Bible?, FYI I married a man I prayed about and received revelations of go ahead to marry him and I also know more than 10 couples in my walk through this life who married based on God said. If you depend solely on yourself to chose the right person how will you determine spiritual compatibility because being religious cannot really tell you about a person's spiritual foundations and load. If a persons mission is in opposite directions to yours and you marry them it can lead to failures and frustration, only God knows what is in the future for each person and can lead one to someone who will help our destiny not truncate it, you need to verify all these from genuine men of God and not just prosperity preachers.
The story of Isaac and Rebecca clearly indicate how God can give someone the right spouse if you pray about it, the servant obtained the help of God, read the story in Gen 24-27
PoliticsRe: RHODES-VIVOUR'S PARENTS SPEAKS OUT. FAMILY PICTORIAL EVIDENCE INCLUDED. by vannessa7(f): 10:00am On Mar 11, 2023
Konwan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYFRQ5bxiRE

Good morning buddies ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Honestly I getting very furious and outraged at the tribalism attacks on GRV. This is the lowest of the lows. Certain things are beyond politics.

How can you attack a person based on their genetic formation? How can you attack a person based on their DNA? That's moral crime and utterly reprehensible.

How can you criminalize, socially ostracized, exclude and maliciously cancel him from his father's heritage just because he was born to an Igbo woman?

They basically want him distanced and deny his mother 👩 😈🤬🤬

Mostly annoying the crazy folks spewing all these garbage aren't from Lagos State.
You being from a south western states doesn't make you Legosian enough to drag an indigenous Legosian.

What's wrong with some of these people drifting down to the dark hole of ancient times of primordial tribalism? That's diabolical mehn🤬🤬

He's been accused of every crazy thing on the devil's book 🤬🤬🤬.

He wasn't a Legosian- He's a full Igbo throwing shade on his paternity.
He was born out of matrimony and raised by his single mother and father absent in his life
LIES LIES LIES- just listen to his dad.
He's gubernatorial race is a secret Igbo agenda to take over Lagos, lands and dethrone obas.
He needs to go back to south east to run for gubernatorial.
He doesn't speak Yoruba while he speaks Igbo fluently again LIES LIES.
He's trolled and bullied by his Igbo name Chinedu given by his mother.
How does anyone believe these stuff?

I am so embarrassed and actually very sad for the intellectual regression of some of our folks. Our politicians has really caused a lot mental and psychological damages for a lot of people.

And to think they're fighting for the same governor and party who has kept them impoverished and uneducated leaving them hanging on the thread 8 and 4 years respectively.
You are spewing trash, Yorubas will never react to anyone based on their tribe if there is no reason to warrant it, those tweets this Vivour Rhode guy posted is enough to make any tribe doubt and reject him or have you not seen them?, You people will gloss over your humongous mishaps and keep harping on the other person's attempt to resist your oppression, as if igbos will tolerate such if it had happened in your region, you conveniently forgot all those full blooded igbos being given opportunities in the south west and made a sweeping conclusion because of this Vivour Rhode bigot who obviously hates his father's land.

As for you people saying Yorubas are foreigners to Lagos because they were not indegens of Lagos but igbos who are from south east are the Lagosians even though you lot will travel en mass to your forest village which you have refused to develop during Xmas, it's not a big deal because Yoruba land is developed everywhere you go you see cities unlike your region where only state capitals are cities, infact many of Yorubas in Lagos know a lot of people who stayed back home and are better off than those in Lagos, it is you lot that have nothing to hold on to that are wrestling over another person's rights. One thing is sure if by all this igbo tussle over Lagos a civil war should erupt other south westerners will not have any reason to panick, it is only igbos that will have to go back to south east, then you will know Lagos belongs to the south west.
PoliticsRe: Indeed, The North Remembers by vannessa7(f): 8:35am On Mar 11, 2023
olasaad:
How many Yoruba elders supported Tinubu presidency. Why did Tinubu not having 90% votes in each of the states in the west like Obi had it in the East.
It's because Yorubas are not tribalistic, we don't play politics of "it must be my tribeman by all means" even when that tribeman have nothing to offer, each individual votes based on his or her analysis of each candidates ability or previous performance without considering their tribe. All this talk about Rhode vivour emanate because of his public insult and affrontation against Yorubas because despite the fact that we are detribalised we will not accept disrespect from anyone talkless of the one who plans to rule in Yoruba land
PoliticsRe: Remi Tinubu, Ibijoke Sanwo-Olu Visit Bus-Train Crash Victims by vannessa7(f): 8:05am On Mar 11, 2023
boldtruthalways:
Look at the face of this woman Remi Tinubuu, God forbid her to be first lady of Nigeria.
She will be the first lady and there is nothing you can do about it, I know old age is a taboo where you come from but Yorubas appreciate old age because we know the elders are the reservoir of knowledge. Americans are not complaining about Jill Bidens age too because they know old age is even an advantage. smh
PoliticsRe: Enugu Auto Crash: Ugwuanyi Visits Scene, Commiserates Victims by vannessa7(f): 11:12pm On Mar 09, 2023
ransomed:
Sacrificial materials for renewal of power. It is the season of politics.
Not so, read my post above🖕🖕🖕
PoliticsRe: Enugu Auto Crash: Ugwuanyi Visits Scene, Commiserates Victims by vannessa7(f): 11:09pm On Mar 09, 2023
Kingdollar28:
lipsrsealed

I hope it's not what I'm thinking lipsrsealed



Is it not possible that politicians can intensionally plan this just to campaign?

I mean taking souls intensionally because of campaign?

Could this be possible? huh embarassed
No, it's not, it is due to the date, number 3 is a number that allows evil to flourish and for a holy person presence of God will be strong, this year generally has that quality because of the 23 number, now we are in March which is another 3and today happens to be 9 which is 3 in 3 places, I'm sure other parts of the world would have experienced some calamities too, but it will ease off in April, although everyone should be prayerful this year itself. That's why any March or September child must move close to God,
TravelRe: Photos Of Ikeja Train Accident Victims Being Treated On The Floor by vannessa7(f): 4:24pm On Mar 09, 2023
naijainstinct:
I just watched this video and I am forever grateful I never believed in or joined the Obidient movement. My head has been spinning since over 10 minutes ago.
I have sincere questions? Where is CSP James Nwafor? How come Peter Obi wasn't compelled to face the Judicial Panel of Enquiry on Police Brutality in Anambra State. From today, I will never see Obidients in the same light anymore. If Anambarians knew the amount of atrocities committed against innocent people while PO was Governor but chose to still support him because of tribalism, then they are worse than the devil. I can't believe what I just watched.
They are very much aware but the desire for igbo presidency supercede the desire for good governance and the youths who are still being fed who were babies during the tenure of Peter Obi and Tinubu governorship are supporting them without verifying who they really are. When I saw this thread below, I was shocked too.

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing/19#117559848
PoliticsRe: Dumebi Kachikwu: All Four Major Parties Rigged Presidential Poll by vannessa7(f): 12:40pm On Mar 09, 2023
reddingtonblack:
Don't waste your time on that dude, he cases is a hopeless situation.
just dole the evidences out, people that will receive sense will receive it.
I have given it to two people on nairaland
PoliticsRe: Dumebi Kachikwu: All Four Major Parties Rigged Presidential Poll by vannessa7(f): 12:34pm On Mar 09, 2023
XAUBulls:
Are the alleged LP rigging video evidence posted on YouTube as well? Any credible web links?
Thanks.
I'm not sure if it's on YouTube, maybe you should check

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