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Danielnino00:
You exposed nothing!
The thread has been going on long before we eve heard of you..

If I was a moderator,I'd have taken it down long ago..

But u guys are creating more cash for Seun,so ......

The moderator that banned me will disagree with you.



Good , it is creating cash for seun and at the same time creating awareness for the citizen's of other nations to be wary of Nigerians and Nigeria as a whole. many Kenyans and South africans here have gotten a bigger and better picture of what is accessible in Nigeria. at the end of the day, it benefit all of us.

sufferNsmiling:
WWE Kofi Kingston GHANA

That guy is a killer

Danielnino00:
The guy is a PDP member.. he is even a leader of one of the PDP youth wings. . everybody know that this thread was created to rubbish Buhari.

Now I'm not a PDP member but I was totally against Buhari's reelection(forgiveness can attest to it)

If Atiku had won the election, Tonye would have begged the mods to take this thread down!

Why do u think it was removed from the politics section few weeks to d election

it was removed immideatly after i expose some nasty lies about some chest beating Nigeria here. either it is pertaining to politics or self hatred. only the moderator can say anything in regards to that. or are you also a moderator to know better than us..

XhosaNostra:
What I do with my money & time is none of your damn business, afonja. Trust me you're last on my priorities. [b]Every morning I have to pee, fart, scratch myself & do other important things 1st, [/b]then I can login on Nairaland. Burping > Nigerians/Nairaland. Know your place.

You have your way with words. loll.......

frank317:
If Hitler killed a lot of people and thought he was doing good, just what do u want to do about that?
Do u want to use God as basis for morality to undo what he did...

I mean, isn't his kind of ideology the reasons why we have wars and law?

I really don't know what u are getting at. The existence of people like Hitler is the reason why saying God is the basis for morality makes no sense.

what i simply mean is, many bad people see themselves as being just like everybody else -- they often rationalizing their behavior by real or imagined insults or actions that have been levied against them. Some believe their actions are justified by their need to survive or situations beyond their control or even flr the benefit of others.

Example , cuilt members, do what they do to maintain respect or to demonstrate loyalty to their gangs; even though they are not "bad" people per se.

Psychopaths believe they are superior to everyone and have little or no empathy for others, human or animal.

note : these are generalizations.


Theists aready put this kind of lifestyle into check, by working base on the instruction giving in their holy books. whether it is written by God or human is not part of this topic.

frank317:
It does not matter. We do not live in an isolation. Actions are judged by us and others. That's why people make mistakes and are corrected. That's why learning exist.
Every human has the capability of judging his action based on how it affects him and others. Enjoying a wicked act does not mean the individual does not know its wrong.

No, they are the protagonist of their story, why would they consider themselves wicked? for example: Hitler definitively thought he was the good guy. Hitler thought he was saving Germany and truly thought that the Jewish population was a detriment along with all non-German races. He just decided to target them first. He was extremely nationalistic, and thought the German people deserved the land.

tylann:
Okay skyscrapers don't mean development

ohh pls don't get me wrong. what i mean is skyscraper is not a necessity for development. To developed you don't need to build skyscraper and sometimes you can’t just build skyscraper

You dont need to:

Compare the french cities with cities with more skyscraper. Take New York. The destiny of population is way higher in New York. At the Same time there is no place to grow into the green belts outside the city. That’s why cities like New York or Shanghai grow into the air.

You can’t:

Sometimes the soil and ground is not right for skyscraper. It is good to have a hard ground with rocks and stone to have a good foundation for the high rising building. Accra is as far i know not the best place to build skyscraper in case of condition of the ground.

tylann:
Anyway there is no need for building skyscrapers which will end up being empty like one of our east african brothers
It is about demand
Germany doesn't have skyscrapers and it is still great

Germany has skyscraper but not as much as that of usa.( they are lot of skyscraper in Frankfurt) . Europe in general has fewer less skyscraper, In some cities like Munich it is indeed forbidden to build buildings higher then a certain height just to preserve the historic skyline and same apply to other city in Europe.

Despite the huge number of skyscrapers in Dubai, it can not be compare with London or Berlin in terms of development.

tylann:
You can try building skyscrapers in your other cities just to decorate your skyline
I hope no one died or was seriously hurt

sure, but there simply no need for higher buildings. Skyscrapers, might it be as office building or living quarter (or both) have to be economically reasonable in order to be built. Since the government sees no reason to support an unnecessary high building just to please our nation’s ego (unlike other countries which see it as a cause for national pride to have the tallest building of the world), there is no skyscraper build for politcial reasons.

If there are neither economical nor political reasons to build a skyscraper, then why build one? nonetheless Accra still boast of 26 storey building.(vitiago)..with finest architectural design.

NairobiWalker:
Rule number 1.

No Nigerian Immigrants allowed.

lol...

This is the reasons you will hardly see skyscraper in ACCRA...

some part of Accra was hit by earth tremor yesterday. .

""earth tremor has been recorded in parts of the capital, Accra.

People living around Gbawe, Sowutuom, Old Kasoa Barrier, New Bortianor, Awoshie, Abelemkpe and McCarthy Hill have all complained that they experienced the tremor.

They claimed it occurred between a few minutes after 11:30 pm on Saturday.

Accra recorded a similar shake in December 2018 around Weija and Gbawe in the Ga South Municipality.

The tremor, which occurred at about 7:50 a.m. on Sunday, December 9, 2018, shook buildings, creating some panic among the resident""



citinews room....

advocate666:
why rape is wrong for the theist.

Romans 13: 9- For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love does NO harm to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. There is quranic equvelent .

Anything that harms, directly or indirectly, immediately or over the long run, is morally wrong by harming both the individual and the collective. Harming one harms all. Equally, harming the collective harms everyone in it.

This is not just an ethic code of every theists but a cold mathematical certainty. Game Theory takes no prisoners.

Let's play some game....

advocate666:
You confuse things. Is that deliberate?

The theist position is that nothing is wrong as long as their god sanctions it.

what is it that you don't understand?

johnydon22:
The question is; why is it even evil in the first place?

frank37 is of the opinion anything objectively concluded by human to be wrong is evil and hence i have to play by his rule

OpenYourEyes1:
They probably deleted the original work out of shame due to errors and lies

lol...... A published Articule powerd by UniversIty of Chicago is based on shame you mean.?

i think you are wasting my time.



Check the sublinks attached to the page, check the university link . the articule is still intact.

OpenYourEyes1:
This is the original article which futurism.com references: https://m.phys.org/news/2016-11-biologists-speciation-laboratory-flask.html



Below the article I found this:

More information: J. R. Meyer et al, Ecological speciation of bacteriophage lambda in allopatry and sympatry,
Science (2016). DOI: 10.1126/science.aai8446

Then how those it refute the Articule.


Do you even know how to verify an authentic publication and how to render a publication substandard?

OpenYourEyes1:
I didn't see much here. I was expecting to a detailed publication not stuff done by biased evolutionists with no input from critics.

Has the experiment been repeated and peer reviewed?

Seems they deleted the original research:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.aai8446

No wonder nobody is talking about it since the first publication.



Please check if this website is reachable at your end.

what nonsense are you talking about. do you want me to copy the whole Articule here. and that is not the only Articule that talk about the experiment .


The Articule even have a subset of other links with video detaling the research

frank317:
How many rape victims have u seen rejoicing after being raped?

Or will u throw a party if anyone rapes ur daugther?

You forget emphaty is what devilish individual lack. As long as you are evil, everything wicked or satanic become a thing of joy. what if i derive joy in it.

OpenYourEyes1:
Evolution is suppose to be through natural process.
Your pictures are too funny,lol.

Let me go through your article. I will get back to you when am done with some house chores.

Natural selection has been observed and measured both in the lab and in nature. so nothing controversial about it.

johnydon22:
People do not understand, being an atheist doesn't mean you become illogical and dogmatic, arguments require an open mind to understand the idea of it all and even an opposing idea can be very logical.

Take that guy for example; He replied that rape is wrong to me and replied of course it is not to you.

Why?

Because he doesn't see morality as something with basis but simply as a surface value judgement down to individual interpretation - which literally proves my point that secular morality (at least how secular people see it) lacks basis therefore literally meaningless.

Let's probe him further; he said, species propagte through rape therefore it is fine to rape - This is him making a logical leap first that 'species propagation' is good.

He is trying to show something is good using a benchmark he hasn't shown is also good.

Or he argues it hurts people thereforr wrong - again, he is making a logical leap of concluding 'hurting people' is wrong without showing how and why.

Trying to prove something is bad using something you haven't shown to be bad.

That is the dilema of secular moral basis.

Morality require a fundamental assumption about the subject that distinguishes it from others, moral weight is not in the action but the subjection of the action.

Example; If you touch someone on their hand, it is ok

Touch their vagin_a or peni_s, it is sexual assault.

See, the problem is not touching someone's body part but which particular body part you touch.

(That is the mistake they make when you talk to them about basis, moral basis is the assumption about the subject not the action)

One can ask why is touching a vagin_a without consent wrong but touching a hand isn't, after all, both are just human body parts which by secular definitions none is any more sacred than the other, there is nothing sacred about sexual intercourse.

But to a theist, sex is a sacred action and this implicitly means that any organ involved in sex must be equally sacred hence the distinction with other parts of the body.

Therefore, touching a body part is morally neutral.

But touching a body part with a fundamental assumption detailing it's intrinsic value gives it a moral weight either positively or negatively - And this scaredness is ultimately connected to God.

That is moral basis.

But to a secular mind, something is wrong simply because i feel and say it is, there is no reason why it is.

I feel like most atheist here do not understand this basis argument.

You may argue morality is subjective and not objective but you cannot argue that the moral derivations and basis in theism isn't logically sound and their non-arbitrary value system a very solid argument you can't win against.

You can only scream: God doesn't exist as a counter which is basically shifting the goal post

i am impress with this explanation.

OpenYourEyes1:
Which experiment? Have they been able to recreate evolution in their labs or supercomputers.

Has any specie of organism evolved into a new specie?

How about evolution of outer space? How many stars, galaxies, solar system, are observed being born today?

This topic is offerflogged on religious section.


Have you heard of fruitfly experiment? it was evolution experiment that literarilly occur in the very eye of scientists.


or just the recent one of 2018 that was tested in the chemistry lab ( A noble award was even given)or that of 2016...

https://futurism.com/breakthrough-scientists-see-the-evolution-of-a-new-species-occur-in-a-flask/

OpenYourEyes1:
"Theory" is not fact/truth

And theory is not a make up idea too. it is an attribute of truth, it is sound, it have explanatory power, and have been vetted by experiment over and over. consistency and accuracy is vital.

advocate666:
Of course it is good. Do you know how many species of animals perpetuate themselves by rape. Nearly all.

Now, what has god got to do with it?

That is why johndon says morality basis has a quality theological explanation. Theist offer a plausible explanation as to why it is wrong to hurt others in order to gratify yourself. it will always be wrong even without putting God to it base on human veiw

The most fundamental point of theists is about interacting with other people. ... for example ""My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins." Since neither of us has a privileged position, ACCORDING TO THEISTIC explanation neither of us is entitled to impinge on the other against the other's will.

This is complicated

Vic2Ree:
So, by my estimation, it appears that theists have won, for all intents and purposes:
1. The logical problem of evil
2. Morality (objective moral standards and non-arbitrary value systems)
3. The limits of science, the axioms of the scientific method, the end of materialism/naturalism, etc.

well some atheist may disagree that the logical problem of evil has been won by the theists, nor have they won morality. Especially( Christians), since their book is arbitrary, and they have to pull in other sources to correct it. well, some unstructured theist (i.e. those who are not bind by any book)has offer a better explanation and that is commendable.

Atheists, by contrast, have won:
1. Determinism (no free will)
2. Evolution
3. The emotional problem of evil
4. Scientific inerrancy of religious texts

And it appears they can all agree, for the most part, upon:
1. Evolution
2. The psychological significance of religion (though they often disagree on the impact being positive or negative)
3. Infinite reality (theists believing in an infinite being, atheists believing in an infinite material universe).

These debates are by no means settled, of course.

And neither as atheist solved anything too. - there is a lot of work to be done to actually settle those, and no one has done that (yet).

Evolution is now a phenomenon every objective individual consider to be true . some smart theist has even offer a theological explanation as to why it is possible.

advocate666:
This is where you argument is defeated before you even started.

Any human would agree that rape is wrong. It is human nature. It has nothing to do with god.

Infact the opposite is the case. Only godly people can justify rape and say it is sanctioned by their god. There are numerous examples of this in their holy books.

So, humanity is the "moral basis". Not god.

ok let me play the devil adovocate. rape is good. can you argue it out?

Just30:
yeah
impressive

All things equal Ghana is expected to grow at the rate of 9.8 this year while at 5.9 in 2020. i think Ghana need something better than that.

NairobiWalker:
Off track means, the poverty levels are reducing but not fast enough to reach the SDGs - Sustainable Development Goals.

ok......send me a link to that page.

NairobiWalker:
Hey buddy, focus on Nigeria, I'm told your poverty is increasing.

The off track indicates that Goverment of such country is not catching up to close the poverty gap right?

budaatum:
Is that perhaps because no human is perfect?

miss you budha. how is life at your end?.

check this below

Just30:
it is part of the E-governance project that is in the nation development plan.
It started with the eastern corridor fibre optic backbone

great. i was reading about the medical drone today. i learnt it will be deployed this month.

NairobiWalker:


https://www.nigerianinfopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Obasanjo-Oshomole-who-ugly-pass.jpg

That is obasonjo and oshimole.lolllllllll. i