₦airaland Forum

lazy youths

which way nija

I see

I love my mum. she is d best

God will give u double for your loses but please and please keep your married life off social media

very good

HtwoOw:
So you know Aso rock has a clinic of it self and it's assigned it's allocation as well and you know we have national hospital in Abuja, 80% world class with 800 rooms+ So the question you wailers should be asking yourself is that is ARE the hospitals not well equipped or does buhari require a specialist Nigeria does not have ?

Ohhhh ! Can you hear yourself?
So because it has 800 rooms it's now 80% world class abi? shame on you! Are you not ashamed that Nigeria does not have even one 100% world class hospital? Shame again.
the 100% hospital in UK that buhari is always rushing to , was it built by a spirit?
Are you also taking about the aso rock clinic that despite all the billions allocated to it, it dose not have common paracetamol hmmmm? go and ask your oga wife.
As for specialist, you mean that no single Nigerian doctor has the special skill to treat buhari?
chiiiiii
you are completely useless

Jesus!

so sad. pls someone should send the NGO info asap

HtwoOw:
Maybe that's true


But i don't blame him


I blame the 16 year looters who couldn't build standard hospital befitting this nation for all those donkey years

how about Aso rock clinic with a budget of over 9million naira annually.?
is 3years too small/short for buhari to build a world class hospital, even for himself n family?
stop painting old bucket to make it new

buhariguy:
For This buhari time .
People still lugard to allowed one lazy idiotic pig of biafra to locate their house.

so you finally admitted this buhari time is hard
hahahahahahahahahaha

Fogman:
Adikwu is an idioma name

you de mind them? see how they have bought tribal war into this. foolish people

olasco18:
Abeg buhari till 2050....igbo presidency is nt d solution to Nigeria's problem.. We dnt need igbo as a president.........igbo presidency is d worst tin dt wil ever apn to Nigeria

can you hear your self?

how did we get here

hmmmmm

you don buy market

tribalmall:
Igbos n lies are here again. All in a bid to incite Nigerians against the system, failed campaign.

can you hear yourself??
you are next.
say Amen!

HitlerGaddafi:
oga stop saying cowshit. Parish pastors are far paid than that. All those low figures you are quoating are just stipends or bonuses. A provincial pastor earns well close to 200k and may be entitled to one free SUV if certain conditions are met. I've been attending rccg for more than 15 years now but i must confess there are so many flaws in that church. Even winners better pass them. But one fact I keep telling people is that the fault isnt from the G.O but from those head pastors.

I did not want to say any more about this before. l agreed the fault are not from Daddy G O. but the head pastors. what am telling u is true just say u are not aware. I will advice u to investigate it if u can. this parish is under Edo Providence 7 but was later transferred to prov 10 .if u want to know the truth chat me privately, I can give u the details. peace

tim26will:
It's always better to keep quiet if you do not understand things than make comments that might land you in hell. I wonder which of the gods led you to rccg but im very sure it's not the same Holy Spirit I know.
Parish pastors either part time or full time have a provision of 5k as stipends to load their phones to make calls to members or as may dim fit, while Area pastors have 10k either full time or otherwise and same to Zonal pastors who are on 15k. These are stipends which has nothing to do with the salary whatsoever. The stipends is statutory depending on your parish, which as the truth of the matter, no pastor do remember to take it.
So where you get yours from, I think my best advice for you is to relocate immediately. Rccg is not a do or die affair church.

see who is talking about hell. Are u God? my current parish pastor earned 15k monthly as full time pastor. what are u telling me? many of u sits in air-condition office without checking out on those huts planted everywhere in the name of let's go a fishing. leaving the real genuine pastor and members to suffer. as I type this, i am just recovering from an illness that lasted almost two weeks. my pastor was unable to check on me once through call because he can't afford the transportation which I underground. you are telling me its 60k, continue

ayogabriel:
You have no idea what you are talking about.

don't mind him. am a Dada too. nothing like a evil spirit.

tim26will:
Well, even though I dont for once like to get entangled in this kind of talks, I just need you to know just one point that had been kept off from many of you, and why it doesn't matter how much people try to pull the church rccg down, it only continue to grow stronger daily.
Pastor EA Adeboye is not a lazy man that will sit to feed on church money. So all the offerings, tithe or other money you're wondering where they do go to ends up here: RCCG nigeria has over 5,000 administrative staff including drivers and cleaners with the least earning 30k per month.
RCCG has over 2000 full time pastors and missionaries with the least earning 60k basic salary and with other allowances running to 150k/month the least. 3 of their children are liable to scholarships from prumary school to university level. Other things are involved in the money that goes to the rccg HQ but that is the basic. Now try do your calculation and see how many people are praying to God for the church to be blessed so they can have food on their tables and also have a take home pay. I guess same must be applied to Winners and co.
Please be kindly polite in your mention even if it's going to be insult, try to be polite with it.
Christians brought themselves to this level by discussing their issues on social media where no man regards God but still need Him to help them. If only the pastor you're going to for spiritual help knows what you're writing online, I know he wont even waste his time praying.

I hate it when believers lies. a full time pastor in RCCG earned 15,000 while a part time pastor take home 5,000 monthly. am a witness. if not the love I have for this church and given to the fact that I was lend to the church by the Holy Spirit, I should have left long ago. What we are saying is that the church should mend its ways. money doesn't buy salvation.

rezzy:
You have said well. This issue is not a problem from daddy Go but from church growth officers and zonal pastors. They keep opening branches here and there just to brag about how many parishes they opened while at a particular province or zone.

OK, likewise my own parish, my husband and assistant pastor pay the rent, zone and province have refused to send money for payment. My husband has complained a lot too but nothing was done, he didn't have any option than to pay from his pocket.

The only problem I have with RCCG is opening mushroom parishes. Like my parish, I don taya to go there, it's 4 years now but it looks like we just started the place.

God forgive if I have sinned

you have not sinned sister
if the national headquarters are receiving a bunk of the money, I don't see why they should not take responsibility for their action.
God will help us

Dongreat:
I am glad to know that my writing is validated. It’s a shame that the HQ is receiving all and allowing the branches to suffer. I have made up my mind and if I am interrupting while passing my messages then I will have no choice than to tell the church and members some hurtful truth and become blind to their pleas. Enough of the business empire on poor peoples funds.
I am also sorry for what has happened to you guys but if I was you I don’t think I can worship in such a church where the leaders are blinded by greed and selfishness.

there is nothing wrong with telling them the truth. though it could hurt .but they need to know

CarlosTheJackal:
This type of stories make me cry. The church is an obstacle to itself. don't contribute a dime again into building anything rather continue to serve God faithfully and you will be rewarded

yea, it makes me cry too.
to even think that for all this year (6)years the Area/Zonal headquarters can't conduct baptism for its passionate and zealous members . the only one they did was a selective one. no Wonder we keep losing members every week. and getting new members is almost impossible
thank u

MaziOmenuko:
Still it doesn't strike you a bit that something is wrong somewhere? I have read many order lamentations from RCCG members in this same thread but yours touched me. I can imagine how the members will feel after going thru the stress of forfeiting their salaries to build the church, only to be treated with contempt from your headquarters.

Can't you guys open your eyes and smell the coffee? Don't you read in your bible that god is not an author of confusion? How can you all be this gullible at the same time? I'm just plain speechless.

I know. I feel sorry for d pastor who is as helpless as the members
I have made up my mind to leave after my wedding.

NoToPile:
This post touched me so hard
It's well

thanks. its well

Dongreat:
I hardly comment on Nairaland these days due to the invasion of kids and/or people who wanted to deliberately act stupid for likes and being infamous.
But I have to say something about this RCCG issues. This is a firsthand saying. My mum rented her land to RCCG in Warri and initially they agreed to pay yearly fees of which was being fulfilled. But suddenly there was a delay in payment and my mum ask them that despite their members, offerings, tithes and other donations, why can’t they pay their fees and the pastor told my mum that when the money is collected every Sunday, the elders get the total, take a share of the money to the HQ and give him the remaining for the Maintenance of the church. The little he is given can’t take care of church stuff nor pay rent that’s why he is struggling for rent.
My mum met the elders and ask why is it like that and they said it’s directions from HQ and they are powerless. One funny thing is they told my mum to sow the land to them and God will reward her well. Mum laughed and said God has already rewarded me by making me to buy this land, taking it from me, how will I feed my children?
Till today it is a battle for rent payment by a church whose net worth can be equated to billions of naira. I have decided that on my visit to Nigeria, I will go to the church on Sunday and during testimony will politely give the church 30 days to vacate the land else they will hear from my powerful lawyers who is not only well feared but he’s agnostic, so there won’t be sentiments in his duty.

l don't know much about what the pastor said but all you said about RCCG is true. very true
I joined RCCG some years ago. but what am seeing now is heartbreaking. My parish was half built with planks. the owner of the land was a member of the church. He lanes the land free to us but later said he could sell it off for 1.4million. we sent out a cry for help to the Area , Zonal and provincial headquarters asking for assistant. We were told to relaxe that the land will be bought soon.
With that assurance the few members start donating funds some giving up two months salaries as we start building the parish. from planks we moved to a complete building. Windows and doors were fixed remaining the paintings
when the owner saw that we have raised the building and the provincial headquarters are yet to give him any money , He gave us a quite notice
we went to the provincial headquarters to complained
They said we should leave the place and look for space elsewhere to rent. as am typing this we are moving to an uncompleted building where we are to pay a rent of 70,000 yearly
what pained me most is that what the church generate from offerings, tithes and others amount to 80,000par month ,but the headquarters will take 90% of the money leaving only 10% to the poor parish. Now all the labours of the poor but dedicated members lies in rains
its well

madridguy:
We Buharist, our love for PMB is based on the will to see Nigeria succeed. We are not paid to support him. We shall be with him till 2023.

who asked you if you are paid or not? Ewu hausa

this country ehhh!!

maxiuc:
: For me I think Banks should have and fund their own Police security

Build a well and nice security tower on top of the bank building equip with well trained sniper rifle personnel

Their police officer should not been seen in an open place they should always be hidden and monitoring every moves when arm robber comes and see no security outside they might think no security is around before they can do shitt their men Will be falling one after the other by the time you have gunned down about 4 the arm robbers will retreat
Go to bank and see bank securities police officers exposed and gisting they are been taken unware by this robbers that why they get killed. the moment you wear a security uniform you are always a Target

Simple security logic that banks should Carry out but no they wouldn't because they are interested in maximizing profits

so on point.