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Enugu also have rice locally produced in parts of the state like Oduma, Ugbawka, etc.
They are all good rice that augment those brought into the state from Ebonyi.

chrisooblog:
Listen spare me all this your bs I have no interest in your Biafra political talk face your lane don't ever mention me again

Stay off re writing Igbo history, and we are all go to go.
Meddle into Igbo history with ulterior aim to manipulate facts, mis represent Ndiigbo and assassinate our image before the nations of Africa gathered here, and you will surely meet brutal and unfriendly resistance.

Thanks.

0xtr200r:
"Secondly at the 1954 Constitutional Conference that was held in Lagos, the Action Group, under the distinguished leadership of Chief Obafemi Awolowo, demanded that the “right to secession” be included in the proposed new constitution.This was rejected by the Colonial Secretary, Oliver Lyttleton."
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/time-think-femi-fani-kayode/

Lying propagandist and notorious history distortionist, find below a brief history of the killings of Igbos in this cesspit:

https://www.nairaland.com/2791382/history-igbo-massacre-across-northern

teufelein post:
History Of IGBO Massacre Across The Northern Nigeria

MASSACRE (City/Town and Year)

1. Jos 1945
2. Kano genocide 1953
3. 1966 pogroms- over 60,000 civilians were killed
4. May 29th 1967- over 200,000 civilians were killed.
5. 1967-70 – over 3,100,0000 killed during the bloody civil war (Including the Asaba Genocide).
6. Kano 1980
7. Maiduguri 1982
8. Jimeta 1984
9. Gombe 1985
10.Zaria 1987
11.Kaduna & Kafanchan 1991
12.Bauchi & Katsina 1991
13. Kano 1991
14. Zangon-Kataf 1992
15. Funtua 1993
16. Kano 1994
17. Kaduna 2000
18. Kaduna 2001
19. Maiduguri 2001
20. Jos Maiden Crisis-Setember 2001
21. Kaduna 2002
22.Jos-November 2008
23. Beheading of Gideon Akaluka in December of 1996 in a POLICE STATION in Kano
24. Saint Moritz killed December 2001
25. Post April 2011 Presidential Election: 10 youth-corps men & women and numerous citizens murdered because a Christian Southerner was elected.
26. Jos Christmas Eve 2010
27. Madalla Christmas day 2011
28. Mubi January 6 2012
29. The many Igbo deaths caused by boko haram(which of course has the full backing of the northern elites).
...

http://www.may30.org/history-of-igbo-massacre-across-the-northern-nigeria/

https://www.nairaland.com/2502880/ibrahim-taiwo-the-man-that-ordered-asaba-massacre-oct1967

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/10/revisiting-the-asaba-massacres/

Asaba Oct 7, 1967 Massacre by Murtala,  Awolowo and their Cohorts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaX9lVVrCM
N.B: The Igbo people of Isheagu, Ogwashi-Uku and Asaba were exterminated by Murtala Muhammed and Ibrahim Taiwo, supported by Yorubas and other Southern stooges.

This is a sucker punch.
In mortal kombat, it's called FATALITY.

ianSweet:
You are not the elected speaker of igbo land nor are you a sole custodian of igbo affairs nor a member of representative of any part of igbo land.
Speak for Ipob alone if u must. Jeeez. No wonder the Ipobs are never taken serious.

I, an Igbo is not an elected speaker for my people, but you, an Igbo hating Nigerian with Nothing good to say about Ndiigbo is?

Inukwa !

ianSweet:
Ok, can u pls tell us what Osu caste system is about, Mr Igboland?
I don't think Kenyans here need to ask u guys. They can go online and read up about it for themselves from the mouth of your fellow igbos. There are many nairaland threads about it.
Any kenyan here interested should go and read online about the Osu caste system in Igbo land. No need for any further arguments.

Ipob members always looking for every avenue to spread hate as if we don't relate with free minded and patriotic igbos everyday who explain all these things to us.

You are not serious. Just stay off Igbo issues.
Focus on your failed nation. Leave Ndiigbo alone.

Stop mis representing us before the world.

Ndiigbo of this century will not allow such mis representations go uncorrected and the carrier of such mis representations and image assassination put in an uncomfortable situation.

chrisooblog:
Well history has proven your perspective to be false and untenable

1960-66 Igbo dominated NCNC party entered into alliance with the northern NPC party to form government
1983 Igbos tipped the presidential election in favour of shagari a Hausa Fulani over awolowo a Yoruba man
1993 igbos again voted for a Hausa Fulani man Tofa over a Yoruba Abiola
2007 igbos in partnership with their Hausa Fulani 'enemies' voted for yaradua no prizes for guessing where he's from

This is another jaundiced Yoruba falsehood re packaged to fool onlookers here.

In 1966, Awolowo, the Yoruba and AG leader treachery, left Zik and NCNC with no option but to form an alliance with the Northern NPC.
But AG led with Awolowo, would also form
Alliances with Northern minority party to become the opposition.

There was no election in 1983. I guess you were talking about 1979 election here.
The. Igbo were still counting our loss from the war in 1979.
Awolowo after uniting the Yoruba with North to fight Biafra between 1967-70 fell out with his Northern masters, after it became obvious to him that the North won't hand over the leadership of Nigeria to him.
Awolowo felt he can use the Igbos to get at his Northern friends by choosing an Igbo VP, but the North checkmated his move by also picking an Igbo VP.
In addition to this, Azikiwe the Igbo leader was a candidate in the election too.
So the Igbo votes became divided and cancelled itself out, allowing the North under Shagari to emerge victorious.
Of course, Ekwueme, an Igbo, was the VP of Shagari.
It was the power tussle between Awolowo and his Northern masters in 1979 that led to the Emergence of Shagari. It wasn't any alliance between Igbos and the North, as Igbos hated both the North and Yorubas.

1993. Was Abiola vp not a Northerner? Can we now call that a Northern- Yoruba alliance?
2007, this your claim is ridiculous. How exactly was Yaradua-GEJ ticket an Igbo- Northern alliance?
Is GEJ an Igbo, was Yaradua not selectively handpicked by OBJ, a Yoruba man and rigged in using his do or die politics style, after aspirants like Odili had been rejected for being too Igbo, despite being from a part of Rivers state that started denouncing their Igbo identity since 1970.

Please, you lots should leave the Igbo out of your hallucinations.

Please, for the Africans here. If you want to learn anything about the Igbo people, our tradition, culture, social and political idiosyncrasies. Do open a topic about that and tag, vicenzo, Bigfrancis21, Abagworo,Cheruv, etc.

Nigeria is a tribally charged nation, you are only going to get biased, jaundiced and tainted opinions about the Igbo from Nigerians.
If you want to know anything about the Igbo, ask the Igbo themselves.

In Igbo land (south eastern Nigeria), there are descendants of people who were believed to be inferior, slaves and outcasts in the past and till date they are being discriminated in their homelands, they can never intermarry or lead their superiors in anything. It's really terrible.

What type of trash is this? First of all, Igboland does not translate to SE Nigeria, as there are Igbos in South South Nigerian states of Delta( Enu-ani), Rivers( Egbema, Asa,Ndoki, ), Cross Rivers( Isobo) Akwa Ibom( Ndoki), etc and Igbos in the North, as found in Benue state, the Umuezekoha clan of Izzi.

Why are you Nigerians hell bent on mis representing my people before the rest of Africa?

No such thing as you described existed in Igboland.
Osu caste system practiced in some parts of Igboland is often mis understood and misrepresented by non Igbos like you.

Please, stop this rubbish in the future.
Damn! Why is the average Nigerian wired to be so Igbophobic.

cheruv:
Anioma has always been Igbo so I don't see that as an achievement
We used population during the slave trade era but now,we'd use it in combination with another method that ensures that your Edo people adopt Igbo mannerisms,culture and language subconsciously. Maybe the only place that may still be speaking Bini in Idu would be the palace. It has already happened in Ekpon and is spreading across the rest of ishanland.

Nawao!
Nnaa, take it easy o! There is no need for these acts of provocation towards Binis/ Ishans.

These Yoruba guys are setting you up against the Edos, puting you up on collision course with them, and you are buying it hook, line and sinker.
All this type your post would elicit from the Edos towards the Igbo is more Igbophobia, and that's what these Yorubas are counting on.

You don't build bridges with such posts as yours.
in as much as Ndiigbo want to rid western Igboland of all Edo influence that was planted there centuries ago, we have no interest in Igbonizing the Edos, as the Edos have an ancestral obligation to preserve their own heritage.

Cire80:
These towns were never fully Bini of course but Igbo is never the majority constituents. Anioma for example is mixed with many different people but Igbos are on a mission to wipe out any trace of Bini in Anioma land. They plan to achieve this through propaganda and fabrications and if you put their population into consideration, you will understad how simple this is for them to achieve.

This is a falsehood.

Bini/Edo is right next to Anioma, yet everything deep rooted in antiquity in majority of Anioma towns, are Igbo and not Bini. King is Eze, Man is Oko, woman is Mgba/nwanyi, water is mmili, sky is Enu, land is Ali/Ani,Life is Ndu, death is Onwu.
The Anioma communities of non Igbo origin like the Odiani towns, who are Yoruboid, the Ebus, who are Igalas, all retained a corrupted version of their original languages, while they now speak Igbo as a second language.
Oza nogogo are also another non Igbo group in Anioma, who were non Igbo speaking Edo migrants accommodated by Agbor in time past, the people remain non Igbo speaking till today, but rather speak Oza, an Edoid language as a first language, and Ika( Igbo) as a second language.
If these Anioma Igbo speaking communities didn't have a majority of Igbo constituents before Bini influence, they would be speaking a corrupted Edoid language as a first language and Igbo, as a second language. Instead, what we have in these Anioma towns is that despite the fact that Igbos have no empire as to have forced Igbo language on them, and Eastern Igboland separated from Anioma by a natural barrier, river Niger, their first language remain Igbo/Igboid, that had been tainted with few Bini words, with the taint more in Anioma dialect closer to Bini, and continuously fade as you move towards Onitsha.

Cire80:
where are you from Vicenzo? An Anioma man said lineage is Agbon in his language and you're trying to correct him. Ebon is not lineage but kindred or kinsmen or family. Agbon and Ebon means different things. Like in Ika area we have Ebon which is a group of people from the same extended family.

Ok. I will have to verify this and get back to you later.

YourNemesis:
The binis were mumus for allowing Igbos claim a huge chunk of their territory.
They said they wanted to leave western region to leave Yoruba domination only to loose a huge chunk of their birthright to Igbos.
Even the Urhobos and Isokos are gone... so funny.

Nobody claimed anything. Things always returned to their stable states, call it regression to the mean, if you want.
Those communities were already Igbo speaking since ancient time, Bini imperialism and influence changed the demographics of the entire region, now Bini empire has fallen and Bini influence is dying, things there are returning to their stable state, which is Igbo.

The entire Anioma( including those in it who were previously non Igbo speaking, like Ebu and Odiani communities) will continue to evolve into an Igbo enclave, with all edoid and non Igbo sounding names forsaken for Igbo ones, until there are little or no iota of Edo or non Igbo there.
It's nature running it's course.

Igbos never claimed any territory, we were never expansionists or empire builders. Our motto have always been " live and let's live", which is why our region is densely populated despite the smaller landmass. You need peace and masterly of peaceful resolution of conflicts to have the kind of population Igbos have in a relatively small landmass, wars gain territories but cost lives. Which might explain why the once big Bini empire has been reduced to minorities. with few LGAs in Nigeria.

cheruv:
I even read up somewhere that the igueben people in ishanland are descendants of awka blacksmiths

Yes!
That narrative was done by no other person than the great Igbo history researcher of our time, Osita Mordi, an Igbo man from Ika part of Anioma.

Here is a link to it here:https://www.nairaland.com/3463205/igbo-speaking-people-inter-relationship

laudate:
With this your theory, you want us to believe this so-called influence is why many of the indigenes as well as the Enogies, also have personal names and surnames that reflect an Edo heritage, not so? We are talking of entire lineages of different families bearing Edo names, o! Aren't surnames supposed to reflect a person's ancestry??

Not necessarily so.
Many Igbanke indigenes have Igboid surnames too.
The fact remains that the native word for king in Igbanke is Eze, and not Enogie.

Cire80:
do you know the history of Ugbodu? These people are from Owo area of Ondo state before the advent of Oduduwa. They are more related to the Edos than they are related to Oyo and Ife. They sojourned in Bini before moving Eastward to their present location.

My point exactly. Having Bini surnames and names of King means nothing, as having those didn't change the fact that the people were of Owo origin.
The Edo names their kings had at a time in history when they were under Bini influence is only a mark of Bini imperialism.
Today, with Anioma having been excised from Edo, and Bini influence dying a natural death, the entire Anioma is once again returning to their root, and even Ugbodu, though of Owo origin are pulled along, as they today have kings with Igbo surnames.

laudate:
Re-ea-ally?? You want us to believe this? Is that why those Enogies also have Bini/Edo personal names & surnames?

Means nothing, when we know that there are long list of Ugbodu kings with strictly Bini names, when Bini still had influence over Enu-ani area.
Igbanke is still currently under Edo and hence under lots of influence from Edo, hence those Edoid names.

The word for king in Igbanke local dialect is Eze, and not Enogie, Enogie is a vestige of Bini colonial influence on Igbanke.

Second, y did Benin not expand into Anioma wen their were no natural barrier, but the Nri Kingdom was able to overcome the River Niger to settle in Anioma?


Rational question, especially when you consider the fact that there are non Igbo speaking community in Edo whose progenitors were Igbo speaking, Who migrated to Edo from western Igboland and as far as from present south East.

ehikwe22:
Why can't you use your senses? Dein of Agbor said all that in an interview and you chose to believe that interview was real? Agbor was formerly called Agbon before it was anglicicized. Lineage is called Agbon in Edo and Anioma and There is no relationship between Agbon and Agburu. Look for another lie. Dein never said this. Paste the link to this your interview let's see.

Lineage is called "Ebo" in Enu-ani.

laudate:
The money spent on your education was NOT wasted!! I once asked this question earlier, on another thread: "Why do the rulers of Igbanke clans bear Edo names?" Afterall, in this day and age, people are free to change their names back to their ancestral ones, if they feel their current names do not serve any useful purpose. Yet they are still bearing their Edo names with pride. Why??

Secondly, do you agree that sons and daughters of Igbanke land bear Edo names like Omorodion, Idabor, Olubor, Osunde, Eni, Ogbomor, Irabor, Oghumu, Edobor, Idahosa etc., which reflect an Edo heritage?

Finally, do you agree that they are no less Igbanke, than those who bear Ika names?

Asking why the rulers of Igbanke bear "Enogie" title, is akin to asking why the leaders of Nigeria bear " president" title
Both are results of colonization.
King in Igbanke as is obtainable in all western Igbo communities translates to " Eze", and not Enogie.
Enogie is a vestige of Bini colonization of Igbanke.

ehikwe22:
you ended up not making any sense. Ika is not Igbo so you can make a comparison of ika and Igbo. If Ika is Igbo and another person say ika is from Bini, the right thing to do is to place ika side by side with Bini and Igbo and make an in depth comparison of the Igbo and Bini elements found in ika. If we should do this with all those things I listed, ika is a million miles away from Igbo.

Ika as a language, is and will always be Igbo.

Whether Ika identifies as Igbo, is a different issue entirely.

You can't speak of "Igbo" element found in Ika, as there is no Igbo as long as Ika is concerned. You however can speak of Enu-ani elements found in Ika, which I know you would find many of, especially amongst Ika clans like Ekwuoma, Igbodo that border Enuani communities.

ehikwe22:
When classifying ethnicity, what are the things to put into consideration? For me they're history and origin, cultures, custom and traditions, kingship and village structure, festivals, music and dancing steps, traditional believe systems, food and cuisine, art and worldview. If you make a comparison of ika and Igbo putting these into consideration, you will find out ika is a million miles away from Igbo

This submission is irrational. You can't make a comparison between Ika and Igbo, as there is no group in the Igbo conglomerate known as Igbo.
You can make comparisons between Ika and it's Enuani neighbors, and then you can make a comparison between Enuani and Her Onitsha/ Idemili neighbors, then between Onitsha and Ogbaru, and between Ogbaru and Ukwuani/Ndokwa, between Ukwuani/Ndokwa/Ndoni and Oguta, between Oguta and orlu.

If you do this, you will notice a gradual shift of dialects, cultures, dressing styles, deities, etc as you move along
The further each Igbo speaking group are from each other, the more different their culture, dialects, dressing pattern, foods, etc will be.

This is a rational way of studying a dialect continuum like Igbo.
I'm sure you will find 98% similarities between Ika and their Enuani neighbors, who then share up to 90% similarity with Onitsha/Ogbaru, who share many similarities with Ukwuani/ Ndokwa/Ndoni, who are linked with the Ogutas in Imo state.

This is how it is in every large ethnic group.

You can't "come and go and be" comparing Igbo with Ika, it's as silly as comparing Ezza with Igbo, Nsukka with Igbo, Ngwa with Igbo, etc.
The question would arise, " who then are the Igbos" you are comparing these groups with.

kcmichael:
Our winning strategy
It worked in Edo

It worked in Ondo

Okorochs won under APC


Anambra loading...…..




U guys can only cry me an ocean

It failed in Bayelsa
It failed in Rivers
And it will 100% fail in Anambra.

laudate:
Irrational being. Let me guess.... you flunked history, geography and social studies in secondary school that is why you do not know that there are over 150 ethnic groups in Nigeria. In your backward mind, you feel everyone who expresses a view contrary to your own, must be a Yoruba man. Why are you chaps so obsessed with that tribe, anyway? Abi, dem give una something chop?

Your post was irrational, if this is your poor attempt at saving face after making that irrational post, then you are even more pathetic than I originally thought.

No Igbo man gives a dead rat about where you crawled out from,the message is clear. Igbo independence and search for self determination will not be undermined or blackmailed by satanic beings from any part of Nigeria, hiding under ambigious ethnic group.

laudate:
You think so? It won't work. The Biafrans would still troop into the South-West and other parts of Nigeria daily, like they have always done. So, of what use would the wall be??

Irrational post.
Biafrans are currently still in large numbers all over west African countries, Cameroon, RSA and North America/ Europe, so is that now a reason to fuse Igboland with those nations and regions, simply because we troop to those places in large numbers?

Jews are scattered all over North America and Europe, is that now a reason why there shouldn't be an independent Jewish nation of Israel?

Go and sleep, Yoruba man, when you wake up and your sense returns, go and seek for nationhood with your kin and lithe in Benin republic and Arewa.

I believe one of the factors is that Igbos erroneously latches on to the lie that Goodluck Jonathan is an Igbo man, with his adoption of Igbo names: Ebele and Azikiwe. He played Igbos so hard that many may not realise this in their lifetime…

This is ridiculous.

Are you insinuating that Ndiigbo don't know the lands and boundaries of Igbo speaking people in Nigeria, as to mistake an Ogbia man from Bayelsa state for Igbo?

Enice:
first of all, Barca has spoken well. We Niger Deltans are not agitating for a country of our own.
Secondly, you are not from delta because if you are you will not use the word delta speaking to qualify any niger Deltan.. Speak for your state and leave others alone.

I think, that Statement should read: " Speak for your ethnic group".
Both you and Tonye only have rights to speak for your ethnic groups, Tonye can only speak for Izon/Ijaw, and you for what ever unknown ethnic group you crawled out from.

You can't speak for Igbo groups( Asa, Egbema, Ndoki, Enu ani, Isobo, etc) scattered all over six states of SS under the pretense of speaking for a non existing amalgam called "Niger Delta".
So next time, I'd suggest both you and Tonye rein in on your use of the trash term called " We Niger Deltans" and start using real terms like " We Ijaws", " We Itsekiris", " We Isokos", etc

FreeGlobe:
Its the same thing we are saying, these people are getting free 50kg bags of rice while the other are getting 2kg bags of rice.. where is the recession biting harder?

This is epic

Why the backlash on Wike?
Has any SE governor ever supported Biafra?
Was Peter Obi not implicated in the drowning of pro Biafran youths in Ezu river?
Did Sullivan not arrest and hand over the pro Biafran group that attempted to hijack the radio house in Enugu?


Has Obiano, Ikpeazu and Umahi ever openly drummed support for Biafra?
Did Ifeanyi Okowa and Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi not also declare allegiance to Nigeria?

We all know these people are part and parcel of the select elites who are undeservedly benefiting from the lopsided settings of things in Nigeria.

You would be foolish if you expect them to join you in killing the cow( Nigeria) that had continuously supplied them with milk.

Spy360:
Did you consider both benches?

Yes, I did.

Spy360:
Compare the two teams and still say Arsenal has a better squad.

I have no argument that another coach like Simeone can do better with these lads. But it doesn't change the fact the Chelsea has the better squad by a mile.

Chelsea doesn't have a better squad.

Spy360:
Arsenal has a better squad than Chelsea?

The year is still new o abeg. Control your faculties biko.

" We played a top team today. A very good team. If you look at the players on the pitch and those that did not play, you discover that Arsenal has the best squad in the Premier League.
Unlike Chelsea's, he continued. I know the man there will buy in January. He will not just sit down there. Let's see what Chelsea can do. But Arsenal have all what it takes to place them in the best position come the end of the season".- Tony Pulis

metro.co.uk/2016/12/26/tony-pulis-arsenal-have-a-better-squad-than-chelsea-6345591/

I'd take pulis words over yours.

Give Wenger Ronaldo and Messi, and he will still not win the league with them.

His incompetence stinks to high heavens.
Give Arsenal squad to a competent manager like Klopp, Simeone, and see wonders.

The tension between Ndiigbo and Yoruba will defuse when Nigeria disintegrates and a well demarcated border established between Igbo nation and Yoruba nation somewhere in Edo state.

Fences make for good neighbors. A permanent well defined border will do same for Ndiigbo and Yorubas.
This is the ONLY solution.