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jamp: na lie

i just booked now for 14k

You forgot about tax didn't you or you feel they will advertise with vat inclusive.

And the annoying part is that even though you are a Muslim from southern or western extraction these northern zombies don't even see you as one of them.

I pity all this Yoruba Muslims because I know how confused they are just now.

Ola Johnson: You may be right on your position on Chinua Achebe, that's not my business, but calling GEJ the Niccolo Machiavelli of our time is, to say the least, wrong. Do you know Machiavelli, the author of The Prince and the brain behind The Mafian Manager was? Since I don sabi u u nova say anytin wey make sense.

Did you read his post? No wonder there is mass failure in JAMB

[quote author=jaymdee]But Prof. Achebe doesn't want the President to attend his funeral. He made it clear to us! [/q
uote]


Achibe specifically mentioned that to your dumb self?

chinchek: Abeg how was he carrying on the "prostitution" business?
I can understand the visible breast implant that presented him as woman to "customers"...
But the other part, nko

Have u heard about blow jobs?

Artistree: I saw it on CNN today and couldn't help but shed a tear. I wonder what might have been going through their minds as the bricks hailed on them, true love I'd say...touching indeed!

That's that situation you have no choice than to get born again and love your wife.

gays!

olaric: Why won't he make more threats when he has an "oga at the top" (Aso Rock)?

Oga or no oga at the top this guy gat guts, don't be lazy do some research.

Trust Nigeria those guys must pay

Xavier's:
Pls any advice, cos I'm really down η don't know what to do..we haven't spoken or texted for 5days now.. I really want to forget her,I'm trying to.. What do I do? Cos I believe she s doin same too

Haha! What a learner.

Rest in peace sir.

BTW has the rest of his organs been brought back from Saudi Arabia for second burial?
I heard Umaru was left at the Arabian hospital while Yar'adua made it back.

Clerverly: For me, is either Buhari for president or i quit politics. Rhino., be realistic here, there is no other candidate capable of sending the killer party away from Aso Rock than the incorruptible, irrepressible and consistent Mohammadu Buhari. Please dont fall for the lapdogs antics, they already knew this, that is why you see them attacking Buhari left and right cos that is the major job thy are assigned to do here on NairaLand.

Another younger candidate can come, when Buhari must have laid the foundation. Lets support the only presidential Candidate with no baggage, god father, god mother, unrepentant crusader for eradication of corruption, one who naturally loves Nigeria.

Let us all say, Sai Buhari

How many times will Buhari try to send them to jail and fail? That man was even too old 10 years ago.


BTW start drying your ground nut seed because you will sure leave politics for farming

Michaeljones36: Click like if you support Fashola for president!

No tribalism, just development!

Click LIKE if its really about development and would Vote Godswill Akpabio for president.

I don't expect up to 20 likes here because its all about ACN and tribal noise as usual.

deSika: let me at this point highlight that you are seriously running on assumptions(non facts). Most of your points are hinged on assumptions and It is wrong to live on assumptions.

For example your claim that other religions started out on a pure note but later deviated is unfounded.
Let it be clear to you that those religions budha, hindu etc started out exactly as what you can see them doing today. You can google hindu and budha and see wat the originators brought. Nothing has changed. They started out as pagan and are very much pagan today.[go on on google and search for history of budha,hindu]
The same can be said for christianity. There were no deviations but only that in the case of christianity there has always been misinterpretations and heresies but no utter deviation from the main stem which is Jesus and what he came to do.

2. I dont buy the idea that jewish historical stories were muslims in the way muslims are today.

For one, the bible from which you get your stories is being accused to be not 100% truth. But you seem to bypass this logic when you delve into it to acquire stories that support ur viewpoints. NOW HOW CAN YOU TRULY POINT OUT TO US THAT THOSE PARTS OF THE BIBLE YOU PASTED ARE NOT AMONG THE CORRUPTED PART OF THE BIBLE. Including all those other parts that alledgedly point to Jesus saying Allah, Mohamed beinng comforter etc.. Your answer as expected would be based on assumption.

This is what i want you to know. If the bible is not true then you are not to take ANY part of it. For as it is, you cannot tell which parts are corrupted or not. for example the verse you use to point that Jesus mentioned Muhameds name also talks about God being a father yet Muhamed says God does not beget..so is the part that says "i will pray the father" corrupted while the part that says "to send you the comforter" not corrupted.

But this is my position. The bible is true allround that is why u can guiltlessly open it and believe some parts of it. But you have to do better. You have to accept all of it. its either you take all or you take non..something that is polluted cannot be trusted. But when u find ursef trusting some part you are being deceptive to yourself. I will be opening a thread on this bible corruption issue soonest.

seconndly there are some other things these exampls of urs from the bible did that muslims dont do today. that disqualifys them also there are some thinngs moslems do today that they didnt do..these exampls you bring from the bible did not do ALL the points rasied in the Op and as such cannot pass for muslims..


The available evidence from the bible does not in any part show us any of these early muslims derived from the bible worshipping any entity known as Allah. The bible gives us the many terms referring to God and never ever used the word Allah. There was no place showing where these jewish patriachs calling their God Allah..instead they referred to their God as Elohim, Yahweh..
Allah being an arabic word would not have been pronounced by hebrew speaking jews. The Allah as represented in quran is in contrast to the God as represented in the bible.


3. we have EVIDENCE of what happened in the Kabba before Mohamed came but there is no evidence that a one God was worshipped there. From this i can conclude that Mohamed speculated/assumed against any evidence that a one God was once worshipped in Kabba . Its an assumption because he was not in the time of Abraham to have known what Abraham did

history has it that kabba was a place of idolatory during the early life of Muhammad and you attest to this.that same history has it that Allah was one of the dieties worshipped there. At this point history stops and never tells us about Abraham and Ismael building any Kabba. But one thing we know Muhammed assumed that it was Abraham and Ishmael that built it as he was not there at the time and the people at the time did not have knowledge of such. So i can say he assumed but ofcos from an alledged revelation.

another reason why i can safely say Muhammed assumed is that once upon a time he changed the direction of prayer to Jerusalem and then back to Mecca. if he was so sure that Abram built that Kabba why would he change direction of praying from what God authorized Abraham to build

4. I can conclude that there were no muslims before Muhamad in arabia becos of the following reasons.
A. At the time of Muhammad early life. Idol worship was predominant in the Kabba. Most of the rituals undertaken by muslims today were actually practised by those idol worshipers such as circumbulating the kabba, kissing of stone etc
B.. there is no evidence of any group of people worshipping in mosques before Mohamed. Rather the people that were doing some of these things such pilgrimage, kissing stone., going round kabba were actually idol worshippers.
C. Muhamads fathers name was. Abdallah. . Was his grandfather who named his father a muslim. No he was pagan and he named his son after his pagan god. There is a story
From the above we see that there were no Muslims before Muhammad came. Muhammad started a new religion.

Muhammed started a religion but his new religiion eliminated some aspects of idol worship such as the associating of idols with Allah and left some..such as the circumbulating of kabba, the kissing of stone etc.

Please teach them Islam because its like everybody now-a-days worships what he grew up to see his father doing and could even kill to defend it

Herds men looking for 2 legged cows to kill again

Boko is now kidnapping its own

rokiatu: And treat me like this...

Dream on

Yoruba's dont like GEJ and they use his name to defraud innocent people. Must our name home and abroad be tarnished by the Yoruba or Igbo's? The Desperate 2

BUHARI you were too old even 10 yrs ago to be the president of these country

Some police officers stopped me for using a tinted glass yday after presenting my tint permit and to my surprise they said its fake. Well I asked them to join the ride and also call for reinforcement so I could take them to police office I got my permit so they can arrest the officers that issued it but they refused. I called the office and the officer in charge requested to speak with them through my phone but they all relented. There and then I just knew they are hungry police hustlers so I entered my car and off I went.

I guess this would have made more sense to idiotic few here if he was a PDP rep.

Technocracy: Retarden and yet he climbed to the top and yet im sure in your life time what u will end up achieving is copeting to comment first in nairaland front page and posting on nairaland front page, impoverished l.u.n.a.t.i.c

GBAM!!

All I know is that be you government or anti government you will never be witch hunt if ur not corrupt.

Why are Yoruba's and Igbo's only uniting when it comes to robbery?

The scientist meant eating oooo aand not using.

honeric01: You're a fool, when i provided answers on that thread to your miserable comment, why did you run?

Some of those who knew them in person that wanted to broker a peace deal with the govt that got killed by them are now innocent abi?
The politicians who use to give them funds for protection and loyalty that were later killed by the bokos were also innocent abi?

So many people like that linked to them but later killed by this same group are innocent too abi? Olodo!

Your brain is too air-filled to comprehend. What a disgrace you are!

Wow!! BH now has a face

All the word i could understand in the video is alah bla bla bla..


ISLAM-A-BAD

TB Joshua should please predict who will contest or win now o not coming after 2015 election to claim he predicted GEJ will massively win.

I have no EX because I don't look backwards since there is not where and heading.

You can't have a Government Job without it