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plappville:
True talk. But they dont enter our bank account and take money. People should start ignoring thier pressure and threats on what will happen if you pay tithe and what will happen if you dont pay. Many athiest are blessed today. They dont pay tithe. But they support the poor. Have a good heart my people.

Behold a wise man!

Islam is the dream religion for pedophiles, rapists and criminals. Muslims try and deny that thighing (Mufa’ Khathat) is allowed in Islam when they are confronted with questions concerning this revolting practice.

Incest, bestiality, rape and sodomy is a common practice in Islam. Ayatollah Khomeini even clarified the legal sanction to sodomy of infants for Shia’s, on both boys and girls, far younger than Aiysha – prophet Moham-mad’s incest victim. According to Shia Imam, a man is fully permitted to commit sodomy on infants; babies as small as 24 hours old. And a man who ‘permanently damages’ the sexual organs of children must provide for them financially through their life. That’s their only punishment. That is Khomeini’s interpretation of the Koran.

Muslims always blame non-Muslims for their dirty behavior. And if they cannot blame non-Muslims, Sunni’s blame Shia’s and Shia’s blame Sunni’s. But both savages follow the same fascist ideology and the same warlord. In Saudi Arabia The Permanent Committee For Scientific Research And Religious Sanctions claimed Mufa’ Khathat (thighing/incest) is imported to their countries through “foreign films”. Imported by whom? It is a practice dating back over 1,400 years and committed by the very creator of Islam: Moham-mad himself and his followers. What films did they import? There is no foreign element responsible for Muslim sodomy of infants at all. Nor is there any foreign influence for Muslim marriage of children. It’s pure Islam.

Where is Rilwayne001

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plaetton:
Lol.

Funny, jokes apart, I actually thought you could do better than this.

This last post clearly shows that You are suffering from
What I call Mental Decohesion.

It is an extreme form of cognitive dissonance, the full ret.ard mode.

It happens when a religiotard, suffering from complex ignorance, meets the brick wall of reason.

I have seen you in this trajectory many times before.
You have become very predictable.

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Amateur Septic(sic)
Any time you are ready to donate your rectum for humanity's ever-evolving social cohesion let us know

Have they started denying this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKHewLgVUBk

Tartar9,watch all of it but for thighing start at 30:00

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plaetton:
Today again.
What is it about religio-heads that makes them so daft ?
How many times?
How many millionth time will it be repeated on this forum ?
Atheism is not a SYSTEM, not a philosophy.

It is the same common sense, the same rational skepticism that YOU employ and freely exercise when I try to SELL YOU The Lagos Third Mainland Bridge , or , when I tell you that the TOOTHFAIRY puts money in your wallet.
We simply employ same rational skepticism in examining , and in most cases, rejecting stone age religious superstitions.
DID THAT SINK IN

To say that atheism ( TOOTHFAIRIANism) is hollow is really daft, and shows a very shallow reasoning faculty.

I could as well say that not believing that I own the Third Mainland Bridge is shallow and groundless.
After all, by your kindergarten logic, the Third Mainland Bridge is there, built by someone, so it has to be owned by someone.
Why can't I be that someone ?

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Amateur Septic(sic) is thoroughly embarrassed of his faith.
Today I feel like we can accomplish tons of 'social cohesion' if twenty sex starved jailbirds went medieval on your rectum. Care to sacrifice your 'primitive instinct for self gratification in favor of the collective'?

STILESGANG:
Do that writeup look like a joke to you.Your prophet was a sex crazed man who slept with anything in skirt.

He is not my prophet, I just so badly wanted it to be false because the very thought is repulsive

Tartar9, Abuamam, do you self-service off single digit aged babies?

basilico:
The prophet was very considerate. At 54 years he could not risk harming a 6 year old girl through penetration. He waited until she was nine.
Allahu akber!
See how muslims emulate their prophet . Read the links below


http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/sep/11/yemen-child-bride-dies-wedding

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264729/Child-bride-13-dies-internal-injuries-days-arranged-marriage-Yemen.html

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/11/03/4-year-old-child-raped-cleric/

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/07/23/227979.html

Very CONSIDERATE indeed.
Can I guess that the beneficiaries of this are the rich.
Don't expect to catch a 70 year old wanking off the thighs of a Qatar princess

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plaetton:
Your shallow half-think benumbs me.

Humans are social animals. Over the past 250,000yrs or so, we have been evolving socially.
Part of social evolution is primary about subduing one's primitive instinct for self-gratification in favor of the collective.

For example, instead of hunting your neighbor for food, and always afraid that your neighbor would hunt you for his food, both of you realize that you are better off and safer if You combine your strengths and efforts to hunt the people on the other side of the forest. This is an example of why social cohesion is PREFERABLE.

Making the decision to unite with your brothers, your neighbors to hunt for and defend yourself from being prey doesn't require an external spiri spiri inspiration.

Second example:
Rather than kidnap the young virgins from across the hills to be your wife, and at the same time protect your own young daughters from being kidnapped by others across the hill, then, Viola! you realize that everyone's best interest is much better served if you go across the hill and KINDLY ask for the young virgin's hand in marriage.
Likewise, you open the door to other men to GENTLY come and ask for the hand of your own daughter in marriage.
Again, Viola! A strong, mutually beneficial social bond is forged.

Through such non-aggression CONTRACTS, the social cohesion grows stronger.
Now, you have your brothers, your neighbors and your in-laws watching your back, helping to guarantee your well-being and safety.

The above is just the second , specially made for you, kindergarten example why social cohesion is PREFERABLE.

This is how humans have been socially evolving from the beginning of time.

It is common sense, common interests, logical.

No god required .

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I think you are more brainless than I initially thought.
Note the circularity of your reasoning; humans are social, social cohesion is a product of being human.
Am not questioning the NEED/merits for social cohesion but rather WHY you specifically strive to pursue it.

Gayjesus:
Ever since I joined this site I have been curious about how possible Nigerians hate gay people. I heard Christianity was meant to replace old and barbaric laws but it is shocking how Christians in Nigeria are extremely homophobic.

My question is: what if Jesus was gay? Would you Christians still see him as a role model? I thought the way you guys portrayed him as a saint, he would actually welcomed gay people with open arm and see them as normal.

And what if Jesus himself practiced the act? Extremely intelligent artists, painters, Kings of the ancient world like the Michael Angelo, da Vinci Alexander the Great all slept with men and there was nothing wrong with it. A master back then usually have beloved males like " John the beloved"

I think this homophobic thing in Nigeria needs to stop if you want to stop being a " third world country"

The answer is yes. If he was gay, gay would be IT. But gay is an abomination and God would not have any of it
Jesus loved sinners but never the sin. He died for sinners to save them from sin. He had no problem with prostitutes and adulterers but he warned them against it. 'Go and sin no more'.
Loving sinners is different from accommodating their sin.

America has only this year accepted homosexuality in their constitution yet they have been growing all those years BEFORE they did it. So development has nothing to do with 'homophobia'. America grew even faster when they had racist segregation. Now that that is no more, development has slowed. Does it mean segregation is the key economic driver?

If you live for seminized rectums,please carry on without reasoning like marine invertabrates

Go and improve your asinine(pun) arguments and get back.

STILESGANG:
.... Now let us see how it is practiced on a female
child and who began this evil practice. According to
an official Fatwa issued in Saudi Arabia, the prophet
Muhammad began to practice thighing his child-
bride, Aisha when she was six years old until she
reached nine years of age (Fatwa No. 31409). The
hadith, which was quoted earlier, mentioned the
prophet Muhammad started performing literal sex
with Aisha ONLY when she reached the age of nine
(Sahih al-Bukhari, book 62, hadith No. 89). Therefore,
Muslim scholars collectively agree, by virtue of divine
example, a child becomes an adult, available for
sexual intercourse as soon as she reaches the age of
nine. Likewise, the Shari’a allows any of the faithful
to marry a six-year-old child.
According to the fatwa, the prophet Muhammad
could not have sex with his fiancée, Aisha when she
was six due to her small size and age. However, the
fatwa said that at age six, he would put his penis
between her thighs and massage it gently because
he did not want to harm her. Imagine a man of fifty-
one removing the clothes of a six-year-old girl and
slipping his erect penis between her thighs, rubbing
her until he ejaculated and his semen ran down her
thighs. To this day, this is considered a benevolent
act on the part of the adult male “not wanting to
harm her.” What harm could be inflicted upon a
young girl mentally and emotionally if not a grown
man showing her his penis and stripping her of her
clothes and rubbing his male organ between her
legs? Of course the twisted mind that does such an
evil to a female child, would not hesitate to ejaculate
on her body. And if this sexually perverted evil frame
of mind committed such an act upon a child, the
pedophile would not stop at ejaculating on her. His
evil desire would go further and rape the child before
she was a mature adult. This is exactly what
Muhammad did to Aisha when she was yet a child of
nine. Before she reached puberty, he began to have
sex with her. Let us see what the fatwa said about
the prophet of Islam and his child-bride,
Aisha.“Praise be to Allah and peace be upon the one
after whom there is no [further] prophet. After the
permanent committee for the scientific research and
fatwas (religious decrees) reviewed the question
presented to the grand Mufti Abu Abdullah
Muhammad Al-Shamari, the question forwarded to
the committee by the grand scholar of the committee
with reference number 1809 issued on
3/8/1421(Islamic calendar). The inquirer asked the
following:‘It has become wide spread these days, and
especially during weddings, the habit of mufakhathat
of the children (mufakhathat literally translated
means “placing between the thighs of children”
which means placing the male erected penis
between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of
scholars knowing full well that the prophet, the peace
and prayers of Allah be upon him, also practiced the
“thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may
Allah be pleased with her?’After the committee
studied the issue, they gave the following reply: ‘It
has not been the practice of the Muslims throughout
the centuries to resort to this unlawful practice that
has come to our countries from pornographic movies
that the kofar (infidels) and enemies of Islam send.
As for the Prophet, peace and prayers of Allah be
upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six
years of age and he could not have intercourse with
her due to her small age. That is why the prophet
peace and prayers of Allah be upon him placed his
penis between her thighs and massaged it lightly, as
the apostle of Allah had control of his penis not like
other believers’” (Fatwa No. 31409).Thighing of
children is practiced in many Arab and Muslim
countries, notably in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, and
the Gulf countries. These countries are notoriously
known for this evil practice. There are many more
such evil practices like altamatu’a bil almufakhaza
(pleasure from sexual contact with her thighs),
altamatu’a bil almuka’aba (pleasure from sexual
contact with her breasts), altamatu’a bil alsagirah
(pleasure from sexual contact with a baby girl),
altamatu’a bil alradi’ah, (pleasure from sexual
contact with a suckling female infant), (Reported by
Baharini Women’s Rights Activist, Ghada Jamshir).
These are all different styles practiced on the female
child by placing the male erected penis in different
parts of the child’s body for getting sexual pleasure...

Please tell me this is a sick joke

plaetton:
The reason I asked you if really wanted to be educated on why social Harmony and social cohesion is preferable, is that if you HONESTY agree to be educated, it would be a direct admission that you are unenlightened.
For you, it's seems to be more about bellicose posturing , rather than the simple application of reason.

Like I said, if you sincerely want me to educate you why social cohesion is preferable, I would indulge you.

But bear in mind, it would be an admission that you are an unenlightened brute, unable to resson and rise beyond the dictates of your primitive instincts.

Amateur Septic(sic)
Put it this way, am more primitive than an orangutan. Am primitivity incarnate. I ooze with primitivity which can only be exercised with 20 billion years of accelerated evolution. Happy now?

Now, WHY is social cohesion 'more preferable'?

Let me walk you through your suicide:
1. Your choices are a function of 'higher reasoning'
2. 'Higher reasoning' seeks everything that promotes 'social cohesion'
3. 'Social cohesion' is to be aggressively pursued because it is 'more preferable'
4. 'Social cohesion' is 'more preferable' because.......


Am so gracious that I will give you a month to consult your extraterrestrials and come up with an intelligent reason

There is a Neanderthal called mellin. He can help you on this quest


PS
Here is what hurts you endlessly; you are an arrant hypocrite. You pretend to subscribe to a system ( atheism) yet you cling to values ( morality,meaning,purpose...) that are 101% external to it because it is amoral as it has zero logical basis for them.

You thus expose the HOLLOWNESS of atheism. It has no answer for morality,reason or purpose. Grow a pair and admit all is meaningless. This is what the more honest atheists have done. Examples include Dr Will Provine

scarred9jan:
Should one be duty bound to love or love based on free will?

A better question is,what is love? What is the PURPOSE of love?

plaetton the Septic(sic) slithers away with his tail between his legs.

Repeat; the epitome of hypocrisy is subscribing to morality within an amoral system without any logical basis

plaetton, WHY is social cohesion 'more preferable'?

You are postponing your whupping

You can default to evolution and I will hit you harder than ever. I know EVERY possible answer you can give

plaetton:
You.have not made any sense.

Just posturing and pontificating

You are not the sharpest tool in the shed but you are made in the image of God and am duty bound to love you

WHY is is social cohesion 'more preferable'?

This is the time you throw in a towel or end with a bloodied nose

plaetton:
C'mon.

Do you really need me to educate you on this?

If you do,just say so, and I will do my best to bring light to your mind, and you can thank me later.

Shoot. Make my day.WHY is social cohesion 'more preferable'?

plaetton:
Lol.
Brick wall of reason has slapped you.

You have zero clue how brain works probably because you can't comprehend how it does

plaetton the Amateur Septic(sic),

Atheists are congenial hypocrites. Here is why;

1. Atheists are not necessarily immoral, in fact some of the best Negroes with the kindest heart I have known are serial staunch atheists

2. Atheism is sort of amoral in that it offers zero basis or rationale for OBJECTIVE morality

True atheists openly admit there is no LOGICAL BASIS for purpose,meaning or morality and they readily adopt a philosophy of MEANINGLESSNESS.

Hypocritical atheists (and they are the bulk) subscribe to morality without any reason. This is where our amateur septic(sic) plaetton falls with his theory of 'higher reason' precipitating aggressive pursuit of 'whatever promotes social harmony' because it is 'more preferable'

plaetton:
Your problem, dear young man, is your tendency to half-think. Seriously.

The fact that I mentioned " parts of the human psyche" in my post should have made it obvious, I'm case you didn't know, that a human mind , the human psyche consists of two dynamic and opposite hemispheres.

One is older, from an evolutionary point of view, more primitive, irrational, fearful. This part likes to preserve the status quo. This is also the seat of religion.

The other, more recently evolved ophthalmic region is the seat of reason, that constantly challenges and tries to overide the primitive impulses.

So, your level of humaness is directly corrolated with whichever region of your brain dominates.

Because religion comes from the limbic , more primitive part of the brain, religious people tend to be more irrational, fearful, selfish ,greedy and more fraudulent.

Simple science.

Go back to school amateur Septic(sic)
I can't believe you are this dumb

plaetton the Amateur septic(sic),

You also need to demonstrate 'higher reasoning'. Take death. Why is it that there is so much death among the religious?

Duh, NUMBERS! It goes without saying that if most are religious then most deaths will be registered among them

plaetton:
Again, that is easy.

Whatever promotes social harmony and social cohesion is always more preferable than what doesn't.

WHY is social cohesion 'always more preferable'?

plaetton:
Well, fraud bothers me because when one person is defrauded, I am also defrauded.

As for my moral compass, that's easy.
You see, I continously subdue the primitive aspects of my human psyche, the primordial nature, the irrational, fearful, and ironically, the religious.

Higher reason is my moral compass.

What determines what to suppress/subdue? What criteria do you employ?

Anas09:
@Vooks.
In life we choose different Parts. All man to his own. You choose New Age, I choose Christ.
I have a Testimony; anytime I feel shaken in resolves, my testimony stares me in the fac. Then I remember were I came from. Most people can't abide in Christ because they don't ve any Testimony.

If you have actually seen life ebbing out of you, and then u actually died, I mean, saw urself out of ur body, but was brought back, U'll take Christ More seriously.

I choose Christ, not because my parents are Christians. No, Christ met me. I was like in a valley of dirty muddy water, nobody could possibly know if anyone was there, Only Christ could put his precious hands in there, and pulled me out.

I have a Testimony, and am good with Christ alone. Am not good at sharing.

My broda,
New Age is full of nonsense and that's what I was driving at. Sarcasm

Highcuerayte:
I need not exchange word with you Mr vooks, your words says much about you that there is no need to reply you again.

I wish you won't quote me again because I won't be replying you again. As for the Scripture go and read Jer 1:10-19.

Jeremiah 1:17-19 King James Version (KJV)

17 Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.

18 For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brasen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land.

19 And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the Lord, to deliver thee.

Young man,
Please don't regurgitate the garbage you read or hear from your MoG. Use your brain.

These words were addressed to Jeremiah not to Jews

He was to be a;
1. Defenced city
2. Iron pillar
3. Brass walls

AGAINST
1. Kings of Judah
2. Princes of Judah
3. Princes of Judah
4. People of Judah

Or in short, AGAINST JEWS

Highcuerayte:
I need not exchange word with you Mr vooks, your words says much about you that there is no need to reply you again.

I wish you won't quote me again because I won't be replying you again. As for the Scripture go and read Jer 1:10-19.

You have a funny way of slithering away from wisdom.

Answer my question. What is the difference between a Jew and a Gentile?

And what is the difference between God's promise to bless Abraham and God blessing Jacob?

Hear the Holy Spirit;
Galatians 3:28 King James Version (KJV)
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

My broda,
I will not begrudge you if you imagine yourself to be a subhuman and a Jew superman but don't pretend that you have scriptures in your side

Highcuerayte:
The PROMISE to Abraham through Christ makes both equal Spiritually, the BLESSING through ISREAL(JACOB) makes both differ physically.

The difference is not in the promise but in the blessings.

Don't be an idi0t
The PROMISE to Abraham was to BLESS him and through him to BLESS all the nations.

[b]Genesis 12:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and Iwill bless thee


Genesis 22:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

Galatians 3:5-14King James Version (KJV)

5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

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Repeat, the PROMISE was to make Abraham a BLESSING. Since you admit that you receive the BLESSING through Christ, you agree with me that we have the BLESSING PROMISED to Abraham just as Jews do

Highcuerayte:
The Blessing of "No War Shall Overcome You"

You reason like a toddler and I can't help ask how young are you.

I will demonstrate
So the difference between a Jew and a Gentile is 'No war shall overcome you'!

What does your puny brain make of 'No war shall Overcome you'? What does it mean?

And where in the scripture do you find that?

MrPresident1:
Simple English lesson, you do not use 'am' to start a sentence, you can use the shortened form 'I'm' or 'I am' to start your sentence.

If the Bible has historical value, which I believe you know it has, then it is tad bit important to be able to decipher the nature of peoples who played very important roles in the rendition of its very important stories.

For the sake of research, I seek evidence from you that ancient Assyrians were black.

Was Abraham right/left handed? Or was he ambidextrous? What was his shoe size?

You can see how m0ronic it gets in the name of 'research'. I merely 'agreed' with your claim that Assyrians were pitch black and blacker than you for the sake of argument.

Now that they were that dark, what next?

plaetton:
It's Pulpit Pimps And Bling Bling Theology.

Gees , I wonder why there is so much fraud associated religion and faith ?

Hhhhmm!

Could it be because it comes from the most primitive, the most irrational and the most selfish parts of the human psyche ?

Fraud is human because we are intuitively selfish and not a product of religion. As an amateur septic(sic),why would fraud bother you? What is your moral compass? Guesswork?

Aptly called Pulpit Pimps

Anas09:
@4C2215131.
My Moniker is Anas09, not as09.

Am a Christian, who believes in the Bible.
Yes, am an adherent to the ManGod who Appeared on the scene 2000yrs ago. While on the scene, he did something no other person/spirit had ever done before him and after him. "He gave up his rights for me to recover mine". He died that I may live. He became poor, that I maybe rich.
He told me a lot of things about my evironment. He told me to expect certain occurrances, and watch out for some behaviors of folks. He told me, He'll return to where he came from, but he will come back for later. He didn't tell me wen, but he told me to checkout some signs with regards to that. Now all he told me from the Bible is coming to pass before my very eyes.

I have actually not taken note of you, untill I read ur post here. I hear you talking about esoteric science. Well those things don't interest me much.

The only time I tried delving into stuff like that was yrs ago, wen I felt Christianity was just to easy and superficial. I started studying the Eastern Tibetan religions and stuff. Real enough stuff, but I discovered Christ instead, in the process. (Up until then, I was just going to church) wen I Jesus found me groping, a new lease of life was opened for me. Now, I have discovered that chritianity is the deepest of all.
I love Jesus, and am okay having just Him in my life.
If you are okay with what and who you are, fine.

Why did you abandon New Age?
See my reasons here for dropping Christianity for New Age
https://www.nairaland.com/2742255/why-leaving-christianity-new-age

Highcuerayte:
The PROMISE to Abraham through Christ makes both equal Spiritually, the BLESSING through ISREAL(JACOB) makes both differ physically.

The difference is not in the promise but in the blessings.

What BLESSING is it through Jacob that a Jew possesses that you don't, or that makes a Jew differ from you?