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FaithDaniel:
c guy wen it comes to men of God you select ur words, dis changing world doesn't change God. I hope u get wat am trying to say, urs might not b barreness

When companies, multinationals have plundered you, they throw in some tokens known as CSR to blind you. Question is, why would any Negro I. The name of religion/charity accumulate enough to buy a $60M jet and you are here hysterical over some tokenism. Wake up and think. TB Joshua is a charlatan

viviangist4:
The senior pastor of the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), Temitope Joshua has added to the growing number of individuals and organisations that have so far responded to the humanitarian calls of persons who have been internally displaced from their homes by terrorist group, Boko Haram.

Joshua, in response to request for help by the internally displaced persons
(IDPs) who are currently settled at a makeshift camp in Kuchingoro area of Abuja, donated to them a cheque of N10 million with which they are expected to offset their medical costs, as well as cost of educating their children whose education has been temporarily halted by the acts of the terrorists.

Also, Joshua pledged to deliver to the IDP camp, a medical ambulance for use in cases of emergency by the members of the IDP community.

Speaking through his representative, Taleb Tebite who made the donation recently in Abuja, Joshua stated that the intention of the church and its partners to help alleviate the difficulties of the IDPs in resettling away from their homes.
He noted that even though the camp could not be described as home to the IDPs, its conditions should be improved on to provide some level of comfort to them.
Joshua thus called on the government and good spirited individuals to help improve the situation at the camp.

source http://viviangist.com/tb-joshua-gifts-10-million-naira-medical-ambulance-to-abuja-idps

Cc; lalasticlala , ishilove

No amount of charity can wash off the pungent Charlatan smell off him not to mention he killed 116 inside his own building and is busy avoiding paying for it

Highcuerayte,
Please be wise. Do you think Jesus TAUGHT Luke 24:1? Any reasonable primate would tell that is a HISTORICAL account and it has nothing to do with what Jesus taught. Where is the Aramaic manuscript?

Point remains, Luke 24:1 was penned in Greek and;
1. The languages Jesus spoke/taught in no way affect the verse because it is. It an account of what Jesus SAID
2. There is ZERO proof of Aramaic manuscripts of the gospels which were later translated into Greek (only a person of unsound mind would make such a claim and stick to it)

Highcuerayte:
In your answers to my question lies the answer to your question.

Lol....Silly claims and you are afraid to answer them. Peter wasn't a scholar yet he knew much than the scribe (scholars) of his days.

Answer the question broz.

Peter's imagined credentials are no proof for Aramaic manuscript that was later translated into Greek. Please drop nonsense and marry critical thinking

Highcuerayte:
This proof is evidently present in Strong's concordance while you fail to see it is amusing.


As per the Aramaic translation have explained that too,if you failed to see it that's up to you.

Which Aramaic translation. Do you know what a translation is?
How does Strong's Concordance prove anything? Can you intelligently demonstrate the 'evidently present' proof in the Strong's Concordance?

Highcuerayte:
What am saying is, they were (the four Gospels) written first by the Apostle before translating it into Greek for public reading. Jesus speak and teach in Aramaic and the Gospel is an orderly record of what "we heard". Notes were made by the Apostles as Christ delivers his speech... translation were made to make Greeks understand these things. That's what am trying to let him see.

What we are asking for is PROOF that the gospels were FIRST written in Aramaic. You claimed the word FIRST in Luke 24 was not in the Aramaic but was inserted as it was translated into Greek. Says who? What proof do you have? Your infertile imagination?

Highcuerayte:
This is no digression, it is common sense challenging the validity of the Gospels being written in Greek. That a supposed white man (Scholar) said something doesn't mean it is true and that can't be challenge.

So i ask again, what language did Jesus speak? Since the Gospels were firsthand knowledge of those who walk and listen to him.

You should only challenge scholarly consensus with scholarship not silly claims. Now please answer my questions

MuttleyLaff:
LOL, what I guess, which is a fact, is that Highcuerayte is saying Jesus's teachings & preachings were done in Aramaic
The ''Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani'' utterance on the cross was left intact when translating to Greek in making the NT though

He specifically said NT was originally done in Aramaic and then translated into Greek. There is a difference between claiming Jesus spoke Aramaic and NT was written in Aramaic

Please look at his posts and if he amends them, just look at where I have quoted him

He asked for scholarly proof, how you managed to twist that into skin color is baffling

He isnt ranting,
he hinted about a sloppiness and was advising you to be more careful next time as he easily can catch you out
I'll heed to that warning if I were you

Thank you sir. A bigger problem than making unsubstantiated claims is making them on the fly. He makes them up as he goes. Very dishonest character

Highcuerayte,
One thing you NEVER do with when engaging me is making silly and baseless claims because I will call you out.

You first claimed FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK was not in the original manuscript. I countered that by educating you on interpolation. Only the word DAY is interpolated. Then you claimed FIRST as well was not in the 'original manuscripts'. I ably prove you wrong from Mounce. You whined that interlinears are translations of English into Greek or something and are thus unreliable. I demolished this nonsense by demonstrating that FIRST is in the Greek text by quoting two different Greek NT. You made another wild and extremely silly claim; NT was written in Aramaic and then translated into Greek, and that FIRST was not in Aramaic. I asked for the names of these Aramaic manuscripts. You have none.

Listen buddy, I engage in idle banter when am extremely idle. This is why I gave you my time. I can tell you are just making up claims to avoid learning. I can't help you with that, but am mighty entertained by your gimmicks

Highcuerayte:
The phrase "First day of the week" doesn't exist in the original manuscript.

Get me the 'original manuscript'. ALL manuscripts have names and dates and language. Which 'original manuscript' are you talking of?

And btw, what do you mean by 'original manuscript'?

Try and be reasonable enough and cite your sources. Your word is not the gospel

Highcuerayte:
Let start with a simple question,

Which language did Jesus speak?

You are digressing. Here is what I need;
1. I asked for any scholarly proof or even a mere claim that NT was written in Aramaic but translated into Greek
2. Since you claim to know what was NOT in the Aramaic manuscript but was added DURING the translation to Greek, could you give us the names of these Aramaic manuscripts you are so well acquainted with enough to know their contents?

The key to learning is having a teachable spirit. Being stubborn like a mule in ignorance is the hallmark of simpletons. I pray you are not.

Highcuerayte
Here is a chance to redeem yourself.
What is the FIRST day of the week according to the Jewish reckoning of time from the scriptures?

Highcuerayte:
and that is not the original manuscript. The word 'sabbaton" contradicts the word 'Heis".

The Original manuscript which was translated to Greek from Aramaic don't have those in it. Oo I forget you have no idea it was written in Aramaic .

Who and what? James Strong Exhaustive concordance of the Bible.

Show you again? Have done that in the analyzation.

I have backed my position by citing my sources. It is your turn to cite yours. The NT was written in Greek not Aramaic. EVERY book by any decent NT theologian would prove this so there is no need quoting them. PROVE NT was written in Aramaic. What is the name of the 'original manuscript which was translated from Aramaic'? And what is the name of the Aramaic manuscript?

Here is a catalogues of all KNOWN NT manuscripts. All the earliest ones without exception are in Greek. If you hallucinated and saw some Aramaic manuscripts please include them here and you will be a hero

Highcuerayte:
lol...... i have done the best I can do.

Interlinears are contextual analyzing of versions of the Bible using the interprataion of that version. Strong's is still to be used to find if the Greek used in the interlinear to interprete the versions are in the original context of the original manuscript. So the above still boils down to Strong's exhaustive concordance which in it, Heis originally means "One" not "Of the first".

I awaits your next twisting

Your 'best' is ignorance at its best.
You made a claim that FIRST is not in 'original manuscript' and I just showed you that it is. WHO/WHAT told you FIRST is not in Greek? Can you show me your 'original manuscripts' that lack FIRST

I have underlined the Greek word FIRST for you.

Highcuerayte:
The word "First" is not in the Original manuscript. I have just analyze the original Greek manuscript.

Please try and read scriptures and not your imaginations. If you don't want to learn just say so.

What is HEIS?

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Highcuerayte:
Let me clear your confused brain with the original manuscript

It will be done in this order for each word of the interpreted phrase, "On the first day of the week":

Original Greek
Correct translation
Wrong Translation
Correct Meaning
Wrong Meaning

1. τῇ
ho, hé,
—
The
—

2. δέ
de
—
but,and,now
however

3. ἷς, μία, ἕν
heis
mia
one
first(day)

4. ὁ, ἡ, τό
hé
tōn
the
of the

5. σάββατον, ου, τό
sabbaton
—
Sabbath or sabbaths
Week

So here we have the correct translation in sentence, "the but,and now one the sabbaths" which contextually rephrased with strong's concordance will be "Now on the sabbath"

And not

"On the first day of the week"

You see now the word "Week" is not in the original manuscript but "Sabbath" is.

Christ died on Wednesday and resurrect early on the Sabbath day (Saturday)

Next time try and read the original manuscript.

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Amateur theologians are worth a dime a dozen.

What is the purpose of the word FIRST? what is FIRST?

Highcuerayte:
Smoking? lol

I said "The phrase "First day of the week" does not appear in any of the four Gospel narrating the resurrectiom of Christ in the original manuscript."

and not

"The phrase , "The first day of the week" does not appear in the New Testament.

See the different now?

We have the phrase FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK appearing 6 times in the gospels. The word DAY is interpolated and the exact phrase is FIRST OF THE WEEK. Now, the FIRST OF THE WEEK in the gospels and elsewhere mean one and the same thing. Questions for you
1. What day of the week is the FIRST OF THE WEEK in the gospels?
2. What day of the week is FIRST OF THE WEEK in Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:1-2?

Highcuerayte:
Do you have learning disorder? The phrase "First day of the week" does not appear in the original manuscript, it was added by King James.

You have poor comprehension skills and what you know is so shallow that it is a pain teaching you common sense. How old are you?
FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK appears 8 times in the scriptures and you claim it is non-existent? What are you smoking? Can you read for me the 'original manuscript' for Acts 20:7 or 1 Cor 16:1-2


Jews never had NAMES for week days, they named them first,second third with exception of SABBATH the SEVENTH day. Sunday was the FIRST DAY

With the exception of the Shabbat, the weekdays have no names. They are simply numbered:

alef yom rishon = "first day" = (Sunday)
bet yom sheni = "second day" = (Monday)
gimel yom sh'lishi = "third day" = (Tuesday)
dalet yom revi'i = "fourth day" = (Wednesday)
he yom chamishi = "fifth day" = (Thursday)
vav yom shishi = "sixth day" = (Friday)
The week culminates in the seventh day, the Holy Shabbat (shabbat kodesh, abbreviated sh''q).
Source

Highcuerayte:
Yes we can if we understand the event that surround his crucification, Passover and Feast of the unleavened bread

Am asking can we with certainty tell what day of the week is called FIRST day of the week?

These two verses have FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK;
Acts 20:7
1 Cor 16:1-2

Which day are they talking about between Monday and Sunday?
If you don't know, please say so. The key to learning is having a teachable spirit

Xtopher123:
I second your post..

I can't believe some Christians are shouting 2years, when has prophesy become time based..

In their bible the prophesy about Christ came about 7centuries before his birth..

And Nigerians are here shouting 2years...

Sometimes I think we are our own problems

Christ prophecies were Christ enteric. They pointed towards the incarnation and they lasted THOUSANDS of years right from Genesis. Only a fool would compare gem to this.


What VALUE does this 'prophecy' add to anyone?

Idi0t, do you know how easy it is to predict an attack of ANY KIND in any country? That's as predictable as predicting Buhari will die one day

Watch the original clip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ijFdK3efg

Dav24:
Some of you are disgusting, why must you coment on every issue? prophecies are things of the spirit, so if you are blind spiritually you will always hate to hear them. they are massages warning us about what we should expect, prophecies are not prayers, and a prophet can only give the massage he gets from God and not the wishes of the people.

You are utterly blind if you can't see through the foolishness.

1. Terror attack on western country has been imminent since 911
2. France has a very HIGH proportion of Muslims
3. He says attack of ANY KIND. that covers all bases. Could be an alien attack
4. What VALUE does this 'prophecy' add to anything? How does it edify?

M0ron you need to listen to the full message to understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ijFdK3efg

An attack of ANY KIND. That could be anything including alien attack

Here is the original 'prophecy'. We thank God for the idi0ts who faithfully upload them independent of SCOAN because SCOAN can pull down damning evidence against TB Joshua.

Am currently trying to get the relevant portion. Stay tuned

What I don't understand is why they would say 19th January 2013 was a Sunday because it was a Saturday. Let's hope they got the date right but the day wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ijFdK3efg

Annunaki:
You know your guy well

Man of God,
You need to grab the original and uncut message to appreciate the extent of 419. Am diggin for it and soon I will share it

Guykhena:
I remember a guy with the moniker Vooks predicting this .
T.B Joshua the only Prophet who gives his prohecies after the deed is done. Smh

It is quite unfortunate when a charlatan runs out of creative juice for such extended period of time such that his modus operandi can discerned by those endowed with the least mental faculties amongst us. But what's worse is the fact that some fools still can't see it

MuttleyLaff:
https://i57.tinypic.com/34sp9j4.gif
You're so funny.
When last have I been tested with the E & F type multiple choice answers
Let me get back to base first.

Thank you man of God, take your time

sonOfLucifer:
Hi Vooks

Anything personal with TB Joshua? Just wondering.

Wassup my Negro,
Nothing personal with the charlatan. We only share roughly the same amount of melanin content

MuttleyLaff:
Am currently on the road, moving around will come back to you on this but for now:
One day = 1 day
Next day = 2nd day
Next day = 3rd day
Next day = 4th day

There you have your 4 days on the next day on the 5th next day

Drive safely and let scriptures speak to you; FOUR DAYS AGO. Memorize and recite verse 30 as you drive around

To help you along, assume Cornelius had the vision on Monday, which day of the week did he utter 'FOUR DAYS AGO'?
A. Monday
B. Tuesday
C. Wednesday
D. Thursday
E. I don't know
F. None of the above

With the Russian Jet tragedy dry, the charlatan turns to Paris terror attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcS6YuwY3bM

In under 24 hours TB Joshua has claimed responsibility

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcS6YuwY3bM

There more myths on spiritual warfare than the world population. Here are some

http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/discipleship-teaching-30/modern-myths-about-spiritual-warfare-part-1

ccollins:
permit me pls.. i have a sensing that Rebecca brown is of God Almighty.. although in these end times, sadly she is even persecuted by fellow Christians..any peple who read her book "he came to set the captives free" have given any testimonies.. what. do you guys think?

When thinking primates see through your nonsense and call it out,it is not persecution