₦airaland Forum

Islie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft83NLf0ge8


https://www.thecable.ng/even-if-tinubu-appeared-as-my-surety-i-would-have-rejected-him-says-sowore/

So wore is 52yrs of age while Egbetokun is 60yrs of Age.

I agree that the conditional bail is only to be given a competent court of jurisdiction.

Bail in police station is free and not supposed to be conditional. If police feel there should be conditions, the case should be charged to court and have a judge grant such conditions.

However, I must also say that Sowore is not a man that I admire or respect. How can he say that he is an uncivilized citizen of Nigeria? Why would he denigrate te office of the Inspector General of Police, irrespective of the person in that office at anytime? Who the hell is he before the laws of Nigeria?

Tomorrow he will come and ask for my vote.

BondRiv:
There are divergent views in the legal profession. As a member, I'm not in support of that separation. It is an unwarranted duplication that will achieve nothing. Rather we should drop the title of Minister of Justice. One of the problems in Nigeria is this copy and paste syndrome. We don't tailor things to suit our peculiarities. We are practising a presidential system, not parliamentary. The President appoints the AGF, and other cabinet members. This is just a case of distrust in the system. Separation is not the solution, neither will it strengthen the system. You have people not appointed or elected in the civil service engaging in massive corruption. The position of a Minster of Justice is found in the UK, where they also have an Attorney General. In the U.S. there is no such duplication. We have better things to focus on, and shouldn't chase shadows.

My dear learned person, I am not a learned (legal practicioner) person but I am informed to the extent that I strongly believe that the separation of the position of the AGF from the Minister of Justice in Nigeria will not be duplication of office and it will be highly beneficial to Nigeria.

Nigeria is a peculiar country with a system of government that is nascent and still developing. The structure and constitution of the presidency in Nigeria is so powerful that you should agree with me that after God is the Nigerian President in Nigeria.

The president as constituted today in Nigeria can do anything and get away with it, there are minimal checks and balances and there is hardly any office that can check the president that he somehow does not have leverage upon.

The president of Nigeria is too powerful hence the Judiciary should be the last line of defense. This is anticipated by the Constitution because the Constitution indicates that the Judiciary is independent of the executive and legislative arms of government but there is constantly the need to strengthen the Judiciary to perform her duty, resist corruption, stay unbiased and uncompromising in cases that involves the government against citizens, public or private institutions.

This can't be guaranteed and consistently achieved with the position of AGF and position of Minister of Justice being occupied by the same person. There is a natural conflict of interest and the AGF in him (Minister of Justice) will often times be compromised.

This is the strong and utmost reason I posit that the office of the AGF should be separated from the office of the Minister of Justice kn Nigeria.

This is my personal opinion, my learned friend.

Starzo:
Bottom line is she can be removed by the president. Only that he has to tell Congress why.

In this case her fate is sealed wether through Congress or executive order.... Republicans control both houses and even the supreme Court. So all that is formality.

And if she feels Trump has violated the law then she can seek justice the appropriate way.

P.S. Trump is not the first president doing this type of thing. Republican and democratic presidents in the past have removed numerous IG's during their time. It's only getting major publicity now because of who is in power.

I want to believe that she will approach the court to seek redress and Justice.

I trust the USA judiciary to be the last line of defense for the law even if the Congress is compromised.

Trump's removal of Inspector General is getting a major publicity now because of the manner and approach that Trump applied to to do it. I want to believe every other president that removed Inspector General or career civil servants followed due process. There is a reason for that law that requires the president to follow that process.

Now, we have an understanding.

Starzo:
Sorry I might have missed that part

But your argument has been centered on the point that she cannot be removed by the president. Not that due process must be followed

You've been arguing that she cannot be removed by the president hence my response to you

And yes the Congress being informed is mainly a formality... they don't usually turn down the president's request in this scenario.


If by chance they ever do, the supreme Court will ultimately have the final say

She can't be removed by the president with executive fiat in the manner Trump did.

Trumo can remove her, and she did not say he couldn't, but by following a process which is backed by law.

The process, most importantly, includes that the President of USA (Donald Trump, in this case) should inform the Congress of the USA with reasons his justification to sack or remove an Inspector General before the IG is removed.

That is the law in the USA.

Trump ignored that part of the law and used a unilateral executive order (fiat).

Let me ask you: Do you know why Trump removed her? Trump never told the press or the Congress why he removed her till now.

That position of the Inspector General can investigate any head of agency and even the president of the USA himself, so you should understand why the law seeks to protect the Inspector General from a power drunk, bullish and overreaching president like Trump or in future.

Ojuntana:
That is basically a lie. Where did you get that idea from. Any position that is for Presidential appointment, the President is at liberty to make it as he deems fit except in a situation where the law clearly spells out conditions.

An example is the AGF. In Nigeria, the AGF is the only Minister that the constitution prescribes the minimum qualification of 15 years legal practice for. The rest is at the President's discretion

So unless you can show that the law mandates that IGs should be appointed from career civil servants which is not so, you are simply lying.

The IG can be appointed from anywhere. No law says it must be a career civil servant and even if a career civil servant is appointed. He can be fired by the President and he will simply return to the civil service office he previously occupied just like that of Jack Smith

We are talking USA Inspector Generals not Nigerian Inspector Generals. Don't agree with me on my position, just do your own research about what I have said and then come back for more conversations.

About the position of the Nigerian Attorney General of Federation that you mentioned. Do you know and understand why there has been a lot of clamor, especially from the Legal practicioners and learned persons that the position of the Minister of Justice should be separated from the position of the Attorney General of the Federation(AGF) ?

Conflict of interest!

The AGF is supposed to be a career appointment and professional independent of political or sentimental influence.

While the Minister of Justice can be political appointment which could make the person in that office sentimental or politically influenced.

Combination of the two as one creates a dangerous compromise of conflict of interest.
That is already evident in the Nigerian Justice administration.

Research more please.

Ojuntana:
It's obvious you have issues with English comprehension

What does it mean to not follow proper procedures? How does that mean Trump does not have the power to fire her according to you?

Trump did not follow due process to fire her.

If you can't read or research to comprehend, that is your problem not mine.

Starzo:
You're still not getting it...yes Trump should have notified Congress...even that in itself is a formality

The issue here is her claiming 'the president cannot remove her'...He actually can. It's in the Constitution

There's a difference between saying 'i don't believe due process was followed in my removal and saying 'i cannot be removed by the president'

I nor dey explain again

Oga, stop talking rubbish.

It is not a formality to inform the Congress. That position is a very sensitive position because an inspector general can investigate heads of agency and even Mr President himself. That is why the President of USA can't unilaterally fire Inspector Generals. That is why the president must justify with reasons the desire to fire an Inspector General to the Congress of the USA.

Again I will show you why you are talking rubbish like you said again with your statement that I made bold.

"Phyllis Fong, a 22-year veteran of the department, had earlier told colleagues that she intended to stay after the White House terminated her Friday, saying that she didn’t believe the administration had followed proper protocols, the sources said"

I copied it from the original post. now I ask:

How did you miss that information on the original post? Do you still have your eyes or you just don't want to see?

Starzo:
You're still not getting it...yes Trump should have notified Congress...even that in itself is a formality

The issue here is her claiming 'the president cannot remove her'...He actually can. It's in the Constitution

There's a difference between saying 'i don't believe due process was followed in my removal and saying 'i cannot be removed by the president'

I nor dey explain again

Oga, stop talking rubbish.

It is not a formality to inform the Congress. That position is a very sensitive position because an inspector general can investigate heads of agency and even Mr President himself. That is why the President of USA can't unilaterally fire Inspector Generals. That is why the president must justify with reasons the desire to fire an Inspector General to the Congress of the USA.

Again I will show you why are talking rubbish like you said again with your statement that I made bold.

Starzo:
You're the one not comprehending....

Can she be removed by the president?,yes...it's written in the Constitution

Only that Congress has to be notified...

She didn't say due process was not followed. She expressly said the president does not have the right to remove her.

Either she's ignorant or a terrible liar who feels uncountable to the presidency. Either of these two scenarios make her unfit to hold key govt position.

Did Trump notify the Congress before removing the Inspector Generals?

Trump has to notify the Congress with reasons or justification before he can remove her.

It is quite obvious that Trump is seeking and gearing to have absolute power, that is something no USA president had because of checks and balances.

Trump criticized African leadership recently but he covets the absolute power that fuelled corruption, bad leadership and bad governance in Africa.

I am afraid of what failure, terror and pevert USA will become with Trump as the president.

Besides, I want to answer your silly assumption that - She didn't say due process was not followed. She expressly said the president does not have the right to remove her.

I answer it with an extract of the original post of the main op:

"Phyllis Fong, a 22-year veteran of the department, had earlier told colleagues that she intended to stay after the White House terminated her Friday, saying that she didn’t believe the administration had followed proper protocols, the sources said"

This shows that you don't read to comprehend or you just don't read at all, you just talk - thrash talk.

Ojuntana:
Just look at yourself. You are simpy disgracing your education
You posted a "research" that says the IG is appointed by the President and you are still saying rubbish that the IG is not a political appointment. Do you even know what a political appointment means. Abeg go and rest and stop typing nonsense

Did you read my post? Maybe you should read again and try to comprehend.

A political appointment is such that the president can appoint anybody, even outside civil service or from anywhere into an agency, ministry or department of government.

Career appointment can be done by the president or head of agency by recommendations of career officers for such position to the president, onward transmission of such candidate to the Congress for approval and subsequent appointment.

Did I just explain the difference to you or you still don't understand. If you don't, read and do more research about the subject yourself. I am done spooning you.

Ojuntana:
The office of inspector General is a political appointment not civil servant office

Stop typing from ignorance

Trump is not the first president to fire an ig

Even Reagan and Obama did

Do you even do research before you talk, the essence of the research is to prevent you from spewing rubbish like you just did on nairaland.

Again, I insist that the office of an Inspector General in the USA is not a political appointment; it is a career driven appointment.

the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) in the United States is not a political appointment. Instead, the President nominates the Inspector General (IG) for Cabinet-level departments and major agencies, and the Senate confirms the appointment. The IG is appointed based on their integrity and their ability in areas like accounting, auditing, and law.

Explanation:
The IG is a nonpartisan official who leads the OIG, which is responsible for detecting and preventing waste, fraud, and abuse.
The IG's office conducts audits, investigations, and evaluations to recommend policy improvements.
The IG is independent and can't be prevented from conducting audits or investigations by the agency head or deputy.
The IG can be removed from office by the President, but the President must notify both houses of Congress of the reasons for the removal.
The OIG was created in 1978 in response to the Watergate Scandal.

Please research:
https://www.ignet.gov/content/frequently-asked-questions

How are IGs appointed and removed?
IGs are appointed without regard to their political affiliation.
The appointment is based on integrity and ability in:
accounting, auditing, financial analysis;
law, management analysis, public administration; or
investigations.
The President nominates IGs at Cabinet-level departments and major agencies with Senate confirmation. These IGs can only be removed by the President. The agency heads appoint and can remove IGs at designated Federal entities. Both houses of Congress must be notified if an IG is removed by the President or an agency head.

Starzo:
Stop saying what you don't know

How you people say ignorant things with so much confidence amuses me

What have I said that I don't know?

Even in Nigeria, do you know a president can not use executive fiat or order to fire a Civil Servant.

There are rules and procedures to disengage or fire a civil servant as backed by the civil service rules.

There shall be litigations to determine the legality of these disengagement of civil servants by the president.

NothingDoMe:
That's nonsense talk from her.

The president fired a government employee and the employee said the termination is not effective without justification and briefing the both houses in the Congress of the USA.

Now the government don use force remove her from their office her body don cool down.

She is a career civil servant, not a political appointee. The executive president of USA can't fire her without justification and briefing the both houses of the Congress in the USA.

She has a good case against the sack. She should go to court.

God1000:
This man is behaving like a King, he keeps signing nonsense executive orders ignoring the congress

United States of America is in for a long thing

spiceadole:
Cry baby Cry!
Use.less child of a mad mother.
Bas.tard!

You mean yourself. Ingrate son, you should be more respectful to your mother despite her madness.

However, since you inherited the lunatic trait from her, why wouldn't you be on nairaland displaying "crazy" behavior.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Yes,considering the amount of money they both received,name any other apc gov that have performed more than him

You are just a joker based on your statement in bold letters.

Do you mean he also outperformed Benue state governor - Hyacinth Alia. .

What about Borno state governor - Babagana Zulum?

I will even rate Nassarawa state governor (Abdullahi Sule) ahead of him.

Bala Mohammed is in the level of Kogi state governor

If you disagree: itemize his projects and achievements on office. Let us compare.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
He has performed more than all apc govs put together.If not mention one apc gov that have performed more than him and what they did

Oh, he outperformed Lagos State governor.

HelipsTech:
Typical Agbadorian spotted.
They avoid the subject matter and attack the object.

What is the subject matter? Please remind me.

spiceadole:
As your mama dey roam for streets.
Shame!

Oh I see, your mama too dey mad abi, no wonder she birthed a lunatic like you.

Idiot.

Glimpsetv:
In a recent video that has gone viral, renowned Nigerian gospel artist Mercy Chinwo-Blessed opened up about her troubled relationship with her former manager and record label boss, Ezekiel Onyedikachukwu, known as Eezee T. The video, which has caused a stir online, comes after Mercy had shared documents detailing how her professional relationship with Eezee T deteriorated over time.

In the emotional video, Mercy accused Eezee T of orchestrating attacks against her, particularly targeting her only child. She alleged that he had paid people to spread malicious rumors about her son, which left her visibly upset. Despite the accusations, Mercy emphasized that she had never filed a lawsuit against Eezee T and expressed her dismay at the public ridicule and insults she had been subjected to, despite her deep respect for him.

Mercy also went on to accuse Eezee T of bullying her and attempting to sabotage her career. "You paid people to spin false narratives," she said, breaking down in tears as she described how her former manager had spread lies about her on social media. She also claimed that Eezee T tried to sow discord between her and Pastor Jerry Eze, stating that he wanted her to become enemies with anyone he was on bad terms with.

In a moment of raw emotion, Mercy expressed the overwhelming sadness she feels daily, describing how unjustly she had been portrayed by others. "They call me names, accuse me unjustly, and paint me as someone I am not," she said, revealing the emotional toll the situation had taken on her. Despite the public attacks and frustrations, she held on to her faith, saying, "I know the truth, and I know my God sees all. He is the God of justice, and He must arise for my sake!"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD6A0Kdc9g

I almost insulted Mercy Chinwo until I saw the video. However, I think this is media trial and it is unnecessary.

Mercy is already in court so she can sort it out there. There is really no need for these explanation to us, crying and whipping up sentiments against the guy.

If he is the devil, prove it in court.

Why are you (Mercy C.) trying to convince us or explain to us? We are not the court.

spiceadole:
"His chosen one" Annie in the mud.

When this lady got married to TuBaba,Nigerian men were hailing her for sticking by him despite his promiscuity.


The moment Nigerian men start hailing you,just know that you have done something very stupid.

Now,they have turned against her,calling her names..Typical .Serves her right!

How can you meet a man first,then he goes on to have 4 children with 2 women, you still go ahead to marry him such that your first child is his 5th and you think you are special.


Women will consciously make bad choices and blame everyone except themselves,for it.

Next to be embarrassed ...Chioma Davido.

Useless ladies with zero self esteem

E remain small wey your madness go enter street

nlfpmod:
Aproko Doctor writes on the implications of Trump halting HIV funding for Nigeria.



https://x.com/aproko_doctor/status/1884329487510425779?t=SEqCpy3MyYOtywVUrR3pQw&s=08


Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8328519/trump-halts-hiv-funding-nigeria

Aproko Doctor, why are you telling lies about Nigeria? You said: Nigeria has the world's second highest number of people living with HIV.


The human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), which causes AIDS, varies in prevalence from nation to nation. Listed here are the prevalence rates among adults in various countries, based on data from various sources, largely the CIA World Factbook.[1][2][3]

As of 2022, around 39 million people, or 0.7% of the population, were estimated to be infected with HIV globally. Prevalence was higher among sex workers, gay and bisexual men, people who inject drugs, transgender people, and prisoners.[4]

The HIV pandemic is most severe in Southern Africa. Over 10% of all people infected with HIV/AIDS reside within the region. Adult HIV prevalence exceeds 20% in Eswatini, Botswana, Lesotho and Zimbabwe, while an additional five countries report adult HIV prevalence of at least 10%.

In absolute numbers, South Africa (9.2 million), followed Tanzania (2.55 million) and Mozambique (2.48 million) and Nigeria (2.45million) had the highest HIV/AIDS number of cases by the start of 2024.[2][5] While South Africa's large population of HIV-positive people is attributable to its high disease prevalence (17.3%, one of the highest in the world), Nigeria's is lower at 1.3%.[1] However, countries such as Nigeria with high HIV rates above 1% are classified as having Generalized HIV Epidemics (GHEs) by UNAIDS.[6]

Extracts from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_adult_prevalence_rate

Canpeakmilk:
When will your granma own be mined because you have agreed it’s a God given Yoruba right

There are ritualists everywhere in Nigeria, not only in Yoruba land.

owobokiri:
Nothing to pity Annie for..
She has been all over the place with her family business.
Lambasting and lampooniing your husband to play the victim is not a strong point for a "good wife".
If she didn't like his history with women, she should have never married him. Forcing her way into a marriage with him, and then turning herself into a vintage primadonna whike emotionally blackmailing him, is to the least, very evil..
My take there..

When did she do that - Lambasting and lampooniing your husband?

owobokiri:
Timing was right!
That gal goes through all levels of bipolar spasm in a second.
If you have never been in a relationship with such HBP inducing daughters of jezebel, you won't relate.

Nigerian ladies should back off and work on themselves. Tuface should never allow all these avalanche of emotional blackmail to make him shift his grounds! Stick to your guns.

Let her go and treat her mental illness

I guess that was why Tuface did a video to emphasize the divorce when some people first claimed that his Instagram or Facebook account was hacked when he first dropped it.

I pity Annie and my sympathy goes out to Tuface too.

Honestly, I didn't know he has serious health issues.

bestman09:
Man wey sabi!

His only mission is to Make America Great Again, and he is seriously doing it without minding what people will say.

Na man you be Trump!


Haters can go and jump into the lagoon

Really,he is seriously doing it

Can you back that up with statistics and data?

nairavsdollars:
Na by Force to stay in US?

Did you even read the post at all?

Edygrin:
https://www.nairaland.com/8327004/colombia-block-us-planes-landing

Sorry, I meant to say:

Colombia did turn back America's planes. It is their country, their airspace afterall

epainos:
Lol

We call the US a world power for a reason. Someone has decided to use the US power, and we can see nations bowing in just seconds. First it was Mexico, and now Columbia. Even Canada is afraid. I used to think Canada is a powerful nation, but I started seeing traces of its weakness even before this time. Even Elon Musk japa from Canada to the US because he knows the US is where the real game is.

Just wait and see how Greenland and Parnama will agree to almost everything Trump proposes in order to avoid conflicts. That of Parnama is almost certain...... the US will most likely establish a naval camp at the Panama Canal to begin inspecting ships arriving from China. This is the game. And will most likely achieve the same in Greenland to begin regulating Chinese ships that enter Europe. The idea is to block the majority of Chinese ships and prevent them from expanding economically. US under Trump wants to break China.

Of course, the US has already broken Russia by demonstrating that it is willing to crash the price of oil. Does Russia have any other option but to agree with Ukraine? Ukraine is already weak because there is no more fund from the US.

And what do you think? The US has already approved sending the bomb Israel purchased, which Biden refused to let go because he believes Israel will use it to destroy everything in Gaza. Trump released it. Lol. You think Trump is a mad man? Nope. Before releasing the bomb, he proposed alternatives for Palestine. Run now to Egypt and Jordan. . You decide to stay, na your death. Why? Israel and Palestines are two nations that will keep fighting. Israel will never let Gaza go. Not possible. That Gaza is a must for Israel to take over. Is it unfair to Palestine? Yes, I think so. However, without this, there will never be peace in the region. The only way to achieve this is that Palestinians leave Gaza permanently. No matter what you say, this is the way. Will any agreement achieve this? No way. Na to talk and talk. They will settle now, and they will continue. It is an everlasting war. So the best way is to evacuate them from Gaza. Whether you agree with me or not, that's your business. But on this....Trump has my support.

The way Trump has stopped Russia vs Ukraine and Gaza wars is clear now. I kept wondering how this man will solve both. Now, I get it. Do you also get it.

If you like, mess with the US. When a "kolo-menta" president like Trump gets there, you go hear am.

No dey deceive una selve, after the US, na the UK. Period. I don't want to hear anything from anyone.

Your sick theory makes me wanna puke.

Edygrin:
People underrate America's power lately because Biden, a very weak president was in charge.

No country in North or South America or even Africa here will turn back America's military plane.

You can droll all you can online but you see reality, it will always hit very hard.

Colombia did turn back America's military plane.

So what is your blablabla

Ishilove:
Oga, you nack abi you no nack the mama? If the answer is 'yes', then that child is yours until proven otherwise by DNA testing.

Irresponsible , adultery committing idiot

E be like say na you go conduct the DNA test ohhh. The baby mama na your sister or na you?

The way you take matter personal ni

Habib101:
is this the same burna boy was talking about ?

Yes, Burna Bons