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johnydon22:
If there is a God powerful enough to create the universe, all theistic religions and the childish petty activities of 'God' found in their holy books like Quran, bible would be an insult to it

Definitely. Even the simple concept of prayer is offensive, it implies that the thing is incompetent or evil or doesn't have EVERYTHING going according to plan ALREADY.

bemagnify:
house i av a question to ask....If God exist y will he allow what he created to suffer...i almost committed suicide cuz of stern hardship...me dnt tink God even exist

Depends on the meaning of the word god in your head. The Bible god is a fake though.

johnydon22:
Only a man made God needs man to make itself known to man.. haven't you always noticed.

Wisdom. These people don't even have the
common respect that should be afforded to a potential creator, they reduce the creator idea to a mere superhuman person and then worship that hero.

That's why you will see both Manny Pacquiao and his opponent pray before fighting each other for cash at 2AM in Vegas.

taurus25:
there is enough proof of gods existence but sadly its only in religious books. Notice that in those books, you dont necessarily need faith to believe, god is always there to prove himself. But in our world today proof of gods existence are things like: earth (in habitable zone) , complexity of animals , scientists that believe in god etc.......its just ridiculous really

Don't forget ice cream. It implies a designer. One cannot glance at an ice cream cone without realizing that God exists. Meanwhile, in the Bible, people who doubted were treated to a true magic show when all the local graves opened one day and the whole country saw dead people walking around.

But in real life, it is me who needs to open my heart before I can even see one ghost.

Edybleketara:
----Sometimes when i look at religion and believers, i cant help but laugh cos of the glaring irony of God and religion. Believers have gone through so much stress just to prove that God exist.

----They have written millions of publications, used all kinds of preachings, teachings, examples, parables, arguments, logic, illustrations and stories just to prove that God exist. Some desperate ones even go as far as using threaths, pity, sympathy and eternal reward to prove God exist. While others engage in full time ministries and evangelism to convince people of God's existence.

----All these shows that God REALLY want people to know that he exist. But its IRONIC. If God is eager to let people know he exist, why doesn't he just give us a sign to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he exist since he has the power? Why doesn't he give us the kind of signs he gave to people like Pharaoh, Paul of tarsus, the baal worshippers, etc, to prove to mankind that he exist, instead of ridiculing his worshippers??



-----Its either God wants people to know he exist or he doesn't want people to know he exist. God can't be in-between if he is reasonable. If God wants mankind to know he exist, then he should let us know by giving us incontrovertible signs like he gave to the bible characters mentioned above. Otherwise he should bleep off.

----Once everyone is 100% certain and convinced that God exist, it will then be left to each individual to decide whether God is worthy of his/her worship. Any other scenario beside this, then religion is a scam and a counterfeit, and will continue to be unravelled by truth seekers.

Cc lalasticlala seun oam4j

Don't mind them. They will say that it is YOU who don't see him because your heart is not open, whatever that means. Once you open your heart, you will begin to communicate with the lord.

odijeks:
So in your defense, nature has had more time in practice of life-creation, while man has had less time in practice, so in order to be fair, I should just give man more time? Lol. I have nothing else to say.

What does this have to do with the existence of a talking god and the book that you carry? I don't think that you understand the atheist argument. You have been misled into thinking that atheists are people who doubt the existence of every definition of the word GOD.

That is not true. The talking god, the one who tells people to write books, is the god under scrutiny. How can you prove that that god exists and still talks today?

Take #1 on your list, for example. You're saying that something designed all the beautiful things we see. Some atheists will argue that beauty and complexity don't imply design. I'm not even going to do that. I'm going to agree with your #1.

But how does that prove that your god exists? We are given a book from the god and told to read it. Nobody asks you to observe the beauty of a butterfly and then go your way. There's church, there are rules, rituals, etc.

rawgame:
Faith is a credible evidence. Don't you think that believing is a risk worth taking? OK, what do you stand to loose if you believe?

Enticing the wrath of other Gods like Allah and Shiva. The risk that comes with empty belief is that another person with a similar empty belief system might be correct, even if he believes in another God.

pweetylivia:
And I'm probably 13

That's your business. I was assuming that the child was born over in the West somewhere and they do keep their original birth certificate forever.

How old do you think Robert Nkemdiche is?

Julius Caesar and Plato didn't open their graves and fly into the sky. Whether or not they were real is unimportant because they should be dead NOW.

poksmahn:
did this guy repeat two classes?? He looks old for a high school graduate

He's probably 17 or 18.

Amberon:
Nobody should call this man names. This man was one of the few prophets that told Jonathan the truth that he would the election. When an African president also reached out to him for prayers regarding his re-election, TB Joshua said to him, "No need, God has already decided and you will lose the election". And indeed he lost.

TB Joshua also told MKO abiola that he would win the elections but would never rule as president, the same happened.

Nobody should even call him a prophet of doom. Did Jesus not prophecy about earthquakes, famine, disasters, wars, etc?

Compile a list of prophecies for 2016, if you're sure that TB Joshua is NOT an atheist. I say he's an atheist masquerading as a god person.

90% of what he says will be rubbish. Even a dead clock on the wall tells the correct time TWICE every DAY.

Oluwaseytiano:
its meant for the most life threatening situation as indiscriminate use can give fatal results

Oh, so you have made attempts to obtain information about the technology afterall? Good. So what happens during a sudden episode of myocardial infarction? Can one teleport himself into the ER?

Oluwaseytiano:
yes, one was actually teleported on the roof adjacent to his house, several kilometres from where the accident occured

Hahaha. Don't kill me with laughter. And no one bothered to obtain the technology from him? The man is a mere driver, so he couldn't have paid too much money for the teleportation device. It's not like the device renders you immortal, you can teleport today and die from heart attack tomorrow.

Didn't anyone express interest in his technology? I'm just saying...

He will forget her after entering the next strip club.

laribari:
Only fool like you will like the trash you just put up. Ask any proper Christian they will tell you God ministers to people and in words too.

You are indeed an antichrist with your statement for suggesting God is a dumb God.

Please just carry your beast orientation go becos you only reason in the flesh.

Beast in the bible depicts a man who is carnal (reason within physical realm alone). I have already told you that your words sounds like that of a child.

Answer me first, are u a Christian?

Must you be an Islamic terrorist to understand that suicide bombing is foolishness? The truth will cut you like a dagger. It is none of my business and I don't care how it makes you feel.

Oluwaseytiano:
Hmmmmm, nice write up. I believe there exist certain people who can tap into dimensions beyond physical. Av seen drivers use forms of teleportation during accident situation (four cases to be precise). Other cases include the Magun charm (thunderbolt).

Really?

Believers who wanna preach with their empty mouths and useless bandwidth. Nawa o.

Meanwhile the Bible says that I'm entitled to see signs and big wonders upon command. SMH

laribari:
Lol ignorant na sickness honestly.
So every man of God called today has to perform like Elijah?
Didn't the bible say let every man abide in his own calling?

My friend, be quiet. It is you who hasn't read the Bible. I've exhausted the material in that book, and it was a big waste of my time.

Mark 16:15-18King James Version (KJV)

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Go and deceive children or gullible adults. You can NEVER just use your mouth to tell another human that you or your pastor speak to the creator of everything. You must put on a very big magical demonstration. That's just the nature of human culture.

The Bible is riddled with stories of believers performing magic, with Jesus being the biggest magician of them all. In your case, you expect me to simply read your words and believe. Go and read your Bible again.

sonOfLucifer:
[size=18pt]The day there's proof of God, faith becomes useless.[/size]

Good one bro.

laribari:
I love what you said and it made me smile. Bros, if the bible didnt record what those great guys did you for nor believe. God is not respected of persons and I have really tasted God Bros and no need to say anything because no evidence on NL only those who were there. The power of God is real indeed and He can use anyone.
Another massive gift of the spirit I have is revelation of the word. Anyways enuf abt me as it's taking attention away from the topic at hand.

Why I talked briefly abt myself is that I can't taste God and know Him to the level I did and come out again one day to say I'm atheist. It is weird and that is the point I'm trying to clarify when I talked abt my self.

It's like saying my brother in overseas is not real becos I don't see him but talk on the fone.

I don't believe that Elijah called fire down from the sky. What I do believe is that you will need to perform something similar before expecting ANYONE to believe that you communicate with the creator of the whole universe.

Elijah was providing evidence of his claim by calling fire down from the sky, whether the event really happened or not.

Every time you use your mouth to tell someone how God speaks to you, remember the requirement of the Bible Elijah. There are certain magical feats you must do, otherwise you are to remain quiet.

Kheddy:
Being an atheist don't just happen

these are one of the different ways the devil uses to confuse the people of God. Deep down somewhere in their hearts,they know that God Lives. . .but the devilish spirit will always give them the impression to believe that There is no God.

Do what believers in the Bible were doing, calling fire from the sky, and then come and present your deity for scrutiny. Using mouth and fingers to argue, accuse, and insult will only reinforce my belief that you are a lying arse scam artist who has never spoken with the creator of the universe.

Edybleketara:
d supernatural forces i talked about r still unclear. My view about it is based on pples account.

90% of all African American males believe to this day that professional boxers must get their hands registered as a lethal weapon.

Na lie. Bernard Hopkins, Joe Rogan, Alistair Overeem, Bas Rutten, and some of the most dangerous humans walking have all ridiculed that myth.

The tales you hear are just that. Tales.

laribari:
You see how weak, funny and ignorant you are? God does not use special people who are super heros. You are scripturally empty as you don't even know the scripture but at least you belief God created the universe
Didn't the bible says God uses the stupid things of these world to confound the wise?

1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

You see that you don't know anything bout how God works?

Apostle Paul was brought to nothing but a blind man when God started with him. Peter was an ordinary fisher and an ilitrate when Jesus took him and upon that same not special one did Jesus commit the church.
David was an ordinary shepard boy at 18 years when he dealt with goliath and God used him.

Moses was a runner and lost every he had when God started with him. Haba! Father Abraham was an idol worshipper in his father's house when God started with him.Abram had no child at the time.

Joseph was an ordinary carpenter when God choose to bring Jesus in his lineage. Should I go on? You see my friend, u are empty scripturally and don't know God is not looking for the best, else we will glory in ourselves.

If I were special u would have heard so much about me but I am not. I just shared a testimony and only God bears me witness and those who know me.

You want me to prove it so that you can belief? You do not have to belief and I have nothing to prove to you as long as there are true ministers of God out there. God called many of them in same ways and others in various ways. When God called Enoch Adeboye, Oyakilome, Ikumuyi etc, who was there?

You think God works with third party?

Moses at the burning bush who else was with him, Abraham about his promise child who was there? Daniel in the dream who was there? When God spoke to Mary through angel Gabriel, who was there and Zachariah too?

Go and read the bible please.

Even if you see evidence you will still argue blindly but believing is by faith but in your words you have narrowed God and condemed Him in a box that He can only talk to certain people. I really pity ur ignorance because e high well well.

If there is a creator of the universe, and that creator happens to be the Bible god, AND that same creator speaks to you today, then you will be endowed with special gifts that support your experience.

Typing words on NL is not proof of your encounter with the creator of the universe, the same creator who supposedly made all human beings. Paul, Elijah, Simon Peter all made the same claim, that they spoke to the creator of the universe.

One of them manage to set a small stream of water ablaze by calling fire down from the sky.

Praktikals:
Oh lord, show mercy on your son HardMirror and restore him back to yourself. So that he can start using the wisdom with which he is typing all these jargon for writing christian tracts. For I have prayed in Jesus name.

In Jesus Name? LOL, the same name that porn stars call out when they reach orgasm from double penetration. You try sha.

orisa37:
Allah is Arabic and means God. His Holy Spirit born Starred Prophet is Anobi Isa. Anobi Isa gave Islam to Mohammed in his dream as a symbol of worship, a Sceptre and a Staff of Office. To distinguish them from Christians and act true to type in Arabic fashion, the Believers in the Revelation to Mohammed started describing themselves as Moslems and
Muslims. Allah is God. Isa is his non human born Prophet and Islam is His Gift to the Arabs. Worshipping Allah in Islam is equivalent to worshipping God in Christianity. As for the Atheist, he doesn't know God, Allah or "Olodumare" like many others. He is different from many others. He is therefore irrational and insane.

God spoke with Mohammed and then decided to **** for a millennium, not bothering to talk to anyone else. The same Mohammed who repeatedly **** while he himself was a full grown man with pubic hair. There were Africans then who didn't ****, but Allah preferred the Arab **** in the desert to my own ancestors.

Allah must be a **** too, birds of the same feather, they say, fly together.

lepasharon:
So they are not atheist

They all are. Nobody can stand in that place and lie or use magic props if the god is real. The majority of atheists have a conscience, enough to prevent us from stealing from blind people or the elderly. But there are a few atheists who don't mind telling lies to the blind and elderly in return for cash. They're called pastors and Daddy GOs. I'm willing to wager my left nut.

Because the Christian god is imaginary and fake. Humans enjoy breaking the law only when the police is not around. Drug dealers don't sell cocaine in front of the local precinct. They are AFRAID of getting caught, so they HIDE from the human police AND continue their cocaine market.

All Christians know that there is NO HIDING from Yahweh. Yahweh is not a police officer you can avoid, he knows, sees, and records the sale of everything, even a cocaine transaction in your bedroom Is recorded on tape by this powerful DPO. So by sinning, the Christian is doing the equivalent of selling cocaine in front of the DPO.

The precinct or DPO is fake, and THEY KNOW for a fact. Otherwise, you go run leave "sin" behind.

lepasharon:
U saying religious ppl lack conscience and empathy?

Pastors and preachers are highly skilled liars who lack conscience and empathy.

These are all arguments for the archetype of a GENERAL God, or some unknown source of the universe.

Do you have any arguments for Yahweh, Jehovah, or Allah?

HardMirror:
Just so daft.

Seriously thinking of taking advantage of the fooolishness of Nigerians.
Politicians are using God to win elections, pastors building empires on the gullibility of believers. Not my fault they are dumb why not milk them. Oyedepo is no match for the psychology I know and can take advantage of.

Will you rob the blind? Oyedepo is the wrong kind of atheist, he lacks empathy and conscience. To do what he does is to disobey your own conscience.

orisa37:
Only one God created The Heavens and The Earth.

And let me guess, it's the same god who you coincendently worship today. Hahaha.
From Jesus point of view, is there a difference between a Muslim and an atheist? Shouldn't Islam also be equally foolish and insane?

A better question is "what is God." God is a meaningless word now. People use it to mean the sky daddy who created the universe and told bronze age Jews to write a book. They will tell you a bunch of other rubbish, but remember that is the bottom line.

Intelligent people use it to imply the unknown source of the universe, whatever that may be.