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ochuski:
humans are evidence that a creator exist..our brain do billions of calculations within seconds, our cell die and regenerate new ones within seconds etc.. All these amazing things gives prove that their is an intelectual designer who created us. If you enter a big forest and came across a beautiful house, will u just assume that it came by chance? Not-at-all the house must have been designed by someone There is evidence of a creator in everywhere we look- the laws that guids our galaxy, the inteligence of humans, the seasons, our ability to love, our DNA, e.t.c

A creator can be anything. Keep your options open. Don't select the first Jew you read about and put him in that category.

Otherwise, you become Olumba Olumba, asking others to prove why you did not create the universe.

waldigit:
do let us mix up things. Objective is to proof that God exists. Who created God is another field of study for another day.

Before we prove something, we must first identify it. What I mean is that we must all agree on the definition of the something. When you say that God exists, what do you mean? Who or what is God?

KingEbukaNaija:
Let me explain how the Christian faith works .

I have an iPad4 , and I was not present during its production . I just bought it - proven its no imitation because of the iOS , design , quality etc .
In the Christian way , I can say I have faith that my iPad4 was produced by Apple . That certainty/assurance is the faith

Comprendre ? When I say I believe the bible or God by faith , all I'm saying is that Im certain God exists or everything in the bible is truth .

This is divine and cannot be understood by the apparently spiritually deficient ones like you

Don't continue to dwell in dishonesty. There are many things on an IPad which indicate its originality or claim of origin. For example, it's called an iPad for a reason.
IOS is an Apple exclusive software. Stop deceiving yourself.

What you're doing is the equivalent of telling me that the iPad was designed by your cousin, who not only lives in the village, but has never left.

Anas09:
The entire cemetery commot begin enter market at your command?

I'm afraid of the walking dead. My point was that it isn't a big deal. Greater things were done on the Bible pages.

Anas09:
HahahahahahahahaHHHa. Oh you know he can do it right? But he will never do it at anyone's demands. Satan has been making these kinds of demands from time.
You Satan's seeds just don't get that we know this line, it's as old as Satan himself, so, change tactics.
You, just like your master, keeps demanding 'If this is, then prove this and that'. The line is over used.

Was it Satan who wrote the Bible? Was it Satan who challenged the prophets of another religion to a magic show?

Anas09:
The dry bones have risen since. That prophesy was specifically for the Nation of Israel. They were scatered all over the world, for centuries they seemed dead and their case hopeless, but now, Israel is a Nation again. Not just a nation but a formidable army. Try take your craze go near them. Arab league with all their oil money dey fear Israel like winch.

Wrong. Arabs fear the US who possess UN veto power and an incredible amount of resources. Thanks to Jesus, the fake Jewish deity, a dwindling amount of Caucasians, have pledged their country's resources to defending these occupiers. They do so because it is Jesus country.

Anas09:
Romans Chapter 1:22.
Professing themselves to be wise, they have become fools.
The day that scripture was written, the Holy Spirit had you in mind.
Christians should show people on earth the souls of people who are dead before you will believe...

It wouldn't be the first time. LOL. From what I read in the Bible, the entire cemetery commot 4 begin enter market b4. His own request is small.

davien:
Indeed... anyone is free to fact check me by searching for Refuting the irrefutable proof of god And listen while scrolling your forum from page one...

He's copying and pasting from a creationist website without bothering to even give them credit for the work. I expect this type of behavior from someone who goes to worship a fake god in a shrine every Sunday.

The OP is causing my thoughts to fornicate. I'm sitting here thinking about her body and vagina now. Nothing good can come out of this thread.

On a real note, congratulations to your husband. That guy will walk like he owns a Koenigsegg automobile now.

Which part of dry bone don't you understand. There is a 90% chance that the author of that passage was smoking illegal drugs BTW.

As for corruption, it will get plenty worse before it gets better.

frosbel2:
These scammers in religious garb spewing their garbage while deceiving millions and rendering their congregations from poverty to complete impoverishment , superstition and turning them from 'brainfull' humans into brainless sheep , need to be STOPPED.

So while Buhari is tackling the endemic corruption in Nigeria he should turn his eye to their allies who are mostly leaders of pentecostal churches and seize their assets ,money and in some cases close down their churches for GOOD !

Their universities should become state owned rather than exclusive enclaves for the rich and privileged despite the fact that they were built from the widows mite ( of course the widows were cast out afterwards ). Their jets should be sold and the money returned to members of their churches.

Every Sunday the thieves think of what scripture they will twist to their own destruction and extract money from the hard working and even jobless suffering members of their congregation , including students. If this is not a CRIME what else is, is this not extortion , no ?? They are cursed and no for good rogues that must be dealt with asap.

People for how long will you allow yourself be a hypnotized member of the churches of these miscreants, why not completely abandon them so that their source of their income will dry up , and they will eat Nebuchadnezzar's grass of humility .

Since when did preaching become a career or source of salary/income ?? Is this not madness, telling people about the good news which is truly a free gift and indirectly charging them for money. Did Paul not work and from time to time receive freewill offerings, NEVER TITHES OR FIRST FRUITS!

While the church members are eating from hand to mouth these rogues and their families are wining and dinning on the most delicious and exotic foods and going to the most expensive restaurants.

These rogues called pastors, sleep with the wives of their members, defile young virgins and stupid girls while preaching about fidelity, who the hell are they kidding ? They want to control you and yet they cannot control their greed and passions. Woe onto them.

Buhari needs to setup a special branch within their EFCC to investigate the people, track them down, seize their assets and punish them according the rule of law. That will put an end to their scamming, noise pollution and corruption of politicians and innocent church members.

End of rant.

I understand your anger, because you live there. The white man is removing superstition from his place, it's only Africans that are increasing the level of superstition.

Bamidelefundz:
Claiming that your God is the creator of universe is farce because we have no evidence to proof God in the first place (undefined). So, for me to prove another entity as the creator is also farce, that's why we must agree that anybody with vast knowledge of his/her environment can claim to be God still, it doesn't mean it is a fact.

He never calls out the name of his fake god. He simply hides behind the general terminology which has multiple meanings. Meanwhile, his god is the one who sponsored the Bible. Lol.

In one thread, he will tell you how he believes his fake god is real by faith. In another, he's asking someone to disprove that same god that he only believes by faith.

gimakon:
Ok, which god is the real one?

The one from whom all things came. Science calls it nothing, but in layman's terms, it's everything. It is the tiniest subatomic particle that can exist in isolation, so tiny that it would fit your definition of nothing.

Except it isn't nothing. It's everything. It's what I call the observer particle. Because of its size and Nature, everything is made up of it, you and I included. Even trees and bushmeat are made up of atoms, atoms which contain the God-particles.

KingEbukaNaija:
Then prove me wrong , show me this creator .

remember the illustration I gave:

Meeks is the president of USA - this is a claim . Would wait for someone to prove that or you would you simply provide proof that Obama is usa's president .

Don't wait for me to prove God is the creator , provide a cogent proof that something else is to prove me wrong . But if you insist the onus probandi is on me , then you simply have no proof against my 'claim' .

Welcome to logic 101 with King Ebuka , you may please have a seat !

More like Bible logic, lol. This is the stupidest thing I've read.

So, in your head, you must always know everything, even if there are no answers? That nonsense you wrote up there is the definition of a fallacy.

You: what happened to the Chibok girls? I have faith that they were kidnapped by Romulans and taken up to mine gold using a Tesseract

Me: I don't know what happened to the Chibok girls.

You: You don't know therefore they must be in the space ship with the Romulans.
Your delusion is sponsored by Caucasians. They have a unique way of telling lies.

gimakon:
When you open your mouth to talk, I see stupidity written over everything you say. See how you fumble. So you haven't heard christianity broke out of the Jewish religion of judaism some 2000 years ago, wrote new laws and brought the new testament? How did you pass through secondary school?

Was it Christianity that broke out or your fake god who changed completely? In one testament he is accepting blood sacrifice, in the other, he takes money. SMH.

Wait, I've been sipping on some Hennessy so please bear with me. Did this OP just put up a photo of a lit match as proof of the resurrected Jew?

I saw a video earlier today of a nude female with one leg hopping across the street smoking a cigarette or something. No kidding. The OPs own is minor foolishness. He get time to recover.

Israel5:
Do you want the christians to give you convincing answers so that you join the faith as you accept Jesus again (being a backslidden believer) or you want to push them into sin/arguments? If it's the former, say it but if not, May the God of Israel Rebuke you!!!

That's a fake god. The Jews worship money and gold bars. Money cannot rebuke anyone. In God we Trust is written on the US currency, just in case you were still doubting where their allegiance lies. Or look up the 12 US Federal Reserve banks, be careful to check the names of members of their board members. It is all available online.

Now you understand why atheists say God doesn't exist. If Jesus is God the source of the universe to you, then he doesn't exist.

But there still is a source to the universe, call it God. So if I tell you that God doesn't exist, I'm referring to the dead Jew.

Stevebamdex:
Hardmirror is arrogantly treading the path to his own destruction..no one ever fights against God and come out innocent..you have already committed a grave sin against the holyspirit by turning the heart of men in NL against God through ur previous anti God posts and you are gonna pay for it real good.
Watchout for the judgement of God..I pray you will live to witness ur own plagues.

Empty threat. The truth has no agenda, nigga. I have challenged multiple men of your fake god over the years right here on NL.
Plus, you and your team of lie peddlers always employ the same word trick which ends up prolonging the discussion. Who is God to you? Is it not the dead Jew, I'm sorry, Jesus Christ.
That person is as powerful as a cheap nylon bag flying in the wind. He went to meet his maker. Porn stars use his name to propel their e)jaculate further, increasingthe pleasure of their orgasm in the process. I can show you evidence of this happening now, thanks to the internet. Back in 96, you probably would have dared me to show you where ashewos were calling out the man's name during commercial intercourse.

Meanwhile, demons are supposed to be terrified of the mere utterance of it. Find better threat, my brother, the god in your head is a storybook character.

dazzlingd:
I'm sorry but I must say ur use of reasoning has been completely flawed if at all u actually applied it.
It was stated clearly in the bible, no bending or twisting...God regretted creating man and decided to destroy man with flood" this has no two explanations, no other meaning other than he never knew man would become dat evil meaning he acknowledged his own error. Sorry bro even the gods are not perfect. that is the absolute truth. 7 + 0 will give u 7, it's a fact and absolute truth without debate. so it is as written in the bible, God repented he created mankind. The omniscience and perfect God principle was flawed. I've asked one thousand and one pastors this verse and none has ever gone straight to the answer all looking for one excuse or the other for God. Let's jst be truthful, that verse contradicts the image of God as being perfect and all knowing. simple!!
Remember I said, u myt either defend ur beliefs with ur religious thinking or ur common sense myt still speak to u. I'm not disappointed as u neglected the common sense option

The Bible has two things going against it, one is its self contradictory nature. The other is that the claims that it contains are rejected after they are applied to reality.

What you highlight here is an open and shut case of contradiction.

chistev12:
With all these, why do people say there is no God?!!!!!

People don't say that. When they do, they are using the word to mean your fake god, the one you go worship for dat shrine, abi, church on Sunday. That god is a story book character.

We know that you only keep the fake one in your head, so that's why we say God doesn't exist.

The true God, source of the universe, is still under discussion. Ideas are needed. Keep your fake book, we've already examined it.

KingEbukaNaija:
God not being the creator of the universe is an assumption . If you disagree , you should provide your evidence - the irrefutable proof the universe made itself from nothing .

There you go again. You're a very skilled magician with words. God is a placeholder for whatever it is we came from. However, whenever you use the word, you mean Bible god. So why not take pride and call him by his name. Jesus Christ or Yahweh.

Personally, I think it was the tiniest subatomic particle that can possibly exist in isolation. A particle so small that it would fit our definition of nothing. A particle with crazy intelligence, obviously, because it now occupies all things simultaneously due to its presence at the very core of all atoms. We are all a part of it, both you and your next goat stew. My thoughts are engineered by me/it as is your foolishness/or perceived wisdom.

KingEbukaNaija:
Some people believe that Obama is not america's president and the first moon travel is fake so ... Opinions !

Use the word God accordingly. The bloodthirsty book character you go to that building to worship on Sundays is not the creator of the universe. It is book character. Grow up.

The Illuminati is supporting Islam and Christianity in Africa while rapidly removing those ideas from where they sleep themselves. Let Africans continue to use prayer as the primary solution to problem.

That's my random conspiracy theory of the day.

KingEbukaNaija:
The emboldened text is your opinion , don't be dogmatic about it . Experience is a path to knowledge , people have experienced God through these means . Others include miracles , etc . Bible texts consist of revelations made to man by God , these experiences were indited and passed on . Though some texts were altered for obvious reasons .

Listen to yourself. Revelations that came to white people, and were reassembled by Roman politicians. Coincidentally, the politicians included verses forbidding others to add their own revelations later.

KingEbukaNaija:
Back what up ? Experience it yourself and make your own conclusion . Even God himself was on earth and people were not convinced at all . So I'm not sure what I'll tell you To Make you believe . One question : how did the early church grow despite persecution from the Gentiles ?

White people have enslaved your entire lineage, bro. The creator of the whole universe came here as a white man to do something? I pity you.

KingEbukaNaija:
Lol . I've experienced God so I'm not sure there's any reason to believe cooked up stories . Let's say there's a similarity , does it stop God from existing ? kilode ?

What do you mean when you say God? Nobody can say God doesn't exist because God is an undefined word. Now if you say the god you go to worship on Sunday, then YES, it doesn't exist.

KingEbukaNaija:
Mr Weah , nature was given that ability because its a working system . There's a software that can write codes for any particular program you want - somewhat "automated programming" . The software was designed to work that way - to write codes for the design of other complex software .

What gave nature that propensity seeing it has a cause ?

Nature has no cause. It's a difficult concept for me to accept, but it shouldn't be for someone like you. That's because it's right up your alley. You already believe that it's possible for mega complex harbingers of intelligence to make themselves.

KingEbukaNaija:
you have a ludicrous belief that nature found a way to be complex with no designer . Just imagine procreation for example - shi.t just figured itself out . Smh .

First of all, a designer doesn't imply Bible god.

Second of all, your Bible god found a way to be infinitely more complex than the whole nature without needing any designer himself. But you are having a hard time accepting that Nature has the same ability.

Is that where your faith comes into play? You need faith to assume that the Bible god is the designer of the universe.

Which part of God told him don't you all understand? This is not the first time you swallow something that was supposedly spoken by the Bible god.

Splinz:
Do not think that you've made any sense all along. Instead of countering my arguments constructively, all you do is to throw tantrum.

Why don't you prove your worth by answering this, "Who or what created your mind?"

You're here to prove the Bible god who, in your head, represents God the source of the universe. Let's not get sidetracked.

The phrase intelligent Being doesn't connote the same meaning to everyone. For example, I don't see why a supremely intelligent being couldn't exist exclusively as a sub-subatomic particle, directing all of its affairs from there. So your watchmaker could just as well be a 5 th dimensional particle that we haven't yet been able to detect through science.

Problem is, you approach this topic with a preconceived notion, that you already know, speak, and have a book from the Being under investigation. You have already given the yet unidentified Being an identity by claiming to have a book. So in your head, this discussion is closed. You already know everything.

On the other hand, I'm just throwing my ideas out there. You can never deceive me with your sleight of tongue trick though, the one where you pretend to prove that your god exists by replacing it with the phrase intelligent Being. In my head, an intelligent Being on that level, is something which transcends jealousy and human emotions, especially against its products. That description doesn't fit your god. In addition, the Bible doesn't agree with reality.

Regarding your question, I have a unique view on the source of my consciousness which I don't shove down anyone's throat as objective; because it isn't. It also has nothing to do with the Bible god, which is the essence of this thread.

Splinz:
Through reason and sheer plainness of logic, we now have absolute PROOF that only a Great Being of Superior Intelligence could stand as the Designer and Architect of the entire universe and all complex life within it—including the pinnacle of His creation, your human mind!

Alright guys. Lets savour this one.

Didn't your reason also tell you that it could be more than one Great Being? Or ten or a thousand or a whole race of Great Beings? Be honest with yourself.