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HCpaul:
It simply implies relying on [size=18pt]an invisible [/size]someone who is smarter than you, wiser than you and more intelligent than you.

FTFY.

sonOfLucifer:
@0P
Do congenitally blind people dream?

A HA! Good question. I believe that they do but their dreams are based on what they observe here in this reality. So the more precise question is, what do blind babies think we and everything else look like?

PastorandMentor:
The end is near. Jesus is the only way. If you depart this night, [size=18pt]Are you sure of your destination[/size]?

Are you?

KingEbukasBlog:
Me : God created everything in our universe - that's a clear evidence

Johydon22 : God does not exist , there is no such thing as God . The universe is not an evidence for God

Me : Wow ... So how did our material universe come into being ?

Johnydon22 : I don't know .. science has not found out yet ... in fact no one knows

Me :

So to demonstrate that YOUR deity is real, you point to the iroko and palm trees as clear evidence? Is that how you accept claims in your everyday life?

You: my deity is real

Me: where is it? Show me.

You: look at that beautiful palm tree.

Me: I see it.

You: my deity created it.

Me: OK, so where is the deity?

You: look at the beauty of that spiderweb, and the ingenuity of it's construction.

Me: I see it.

You: See, I told you my deity was real. The beautiful design of the spiderweb is a clear indication.

trapQ:
dreams are not attributed to religion but they show the existence of the supernatural or spirit world.

Nah, it is an indication that different levels of consciousness exist.

blueAgent:
God hates Islamic practices e.g, new moon,
slaughtering of Ram for him, facing eastward
direction to bow to the ground and worship. etc.
New moon means The day when the new moon is
first seen or is expected to appear.

This is the silliest thing I've ever read. God hates Islam? What does that even mean?

The God knows the fate of every human he creates in his factory, but he decides to give each person a limited edition copy of the Quran anyway. Let us imagine a scenario:

Allah creates Malik knowing that Malik will one day serve as firewood for his torture chamber. He then proceeds to give a copy of the Quran to Malik so that Malik could use the guidelines in his life.

Do I look like a small boy to you?

Shameful. It is a win win situation for the Bible and Christians. If the currency becomes even more useless in spite of the national day of prayers, the devil will be assigned the blame.

On the other hand, if it gets better even by a margin of only 2%, Jeebus did it.

Why would a know-it-all God give religion or anything to man when he already knows the future decisions of each man? Does it make sense to you? The God would have created a hellfire next to the human manufacturing company so that he could immediately dispose of humans right after making them. It doesn't make sense to prolong an inevitable outcome. You know the man is destined for the roasting chambers, and yet you give him the Quran. Does the Quran produce ice water? Hahaha

KingEbukasBlog:
What's your point

It's possible to ponder existence without making up stories.

KingEbukasBlog:
Try probing man's existence and tell me how well you are doing

The mystery of man's existence has little to do with walking on water or murdering 42 children.

5minsmadness:
Blah blah Santa Claus blah.
They campaign against God like thier very lives depend on it yet have nothing to show for thier own beliefs.
Why do they think the Christian God is such a threat? After all another god is there ordering the daily beheading of infidels and locking of women in purdah. Yet you don't see them there, fear won't let then near those threads. Why don't they dispense this same energy there to save the world, right where it is really needed? It's the Christian God who preaches forgiveness and Love for one's neighbour that they find fault in and ridicule.
Cowards.

Why are you being so insecure and getting all in your feelings? Muslims on NL were smart enough to include a prerequisite before allowing comments on their threads. That's it. I don't contribute a penny towards the maintenance of this site and therefore must abide by the rules.

If adults around the world one day decide to engage in a weekly ritual which venerates the Almighty Santa Claus, I'm pretty sure that their delusion will be met with a similar campaign of derision. As of now, there are no shrines dedicated to Santa, so stop the useless comparisons please.

Santa doesn't exist and everyone knows it. We refuse to afford your deity the same level of nonchalance precisely because YOU think it is real. There are different ways to save the world, and one way to do it is by reducing the number of functional zombies.

Annunaki:
MOSLIMS WHY MUHAMMAD IS NO PROPHET.THE END OF YOUR BULLSHIT CLAIMS.
Why Muhammad was not a prophet?
It is impossible that a man in his mid-54’s could engage in sexual intercourse with a nine-year-old child (Aysha), and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could finance his religious and political community by robbing the trade caravans that passed through his area on their annual trips between Arabia and Syria, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could encourage his adopt son (Zeid) to divorce his wife (Zeinab) so that he, the father, could marry her, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could lie to his wife (Hafsa) to get her out of the house so that he could sleep with the slave girl (Mariyah) he had given her as a gift, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could call other men to follow him, and then watch them die one after the other in the battles he instigated to build his empire while giving them promises of the sexual Paradise with 72 virgins that awaited them, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could behead three Jewish tribes men who had lived in his city for centuries for the simple reason they refused to accept him as their leader, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could trade the Jewish wives and daughters of the men he had just beheaded for weapons and horses, and be a prophet of God.
It is impossible that a man could be so fearful of criticism that he would send a man at night to kill the mother of a nursing child because of the poems she had written against him, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could sentence a woman to death by having her limbs attached to camels that moved in opposite direction pulling her apart, then behead her and parade her severed head through Medina, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could torture a young Jewish tribal leader to death to obtain his money, and then "marry" his 17-year old widow (Safiya) the same night, and be a prophet of G-d.
It is impossible that a man could allow his followers to have sex with their female slaves as well as their prisoners of war, whether or not they were married, and be a prophet of G-d. Peace.

Source: facebook

NOTHING is impossible for the God who allegedly allowed HIMSELF to get violently murdered at the hands of ordinary human beings. If the God was willing to murder almost 50 children for screaming bald man at a bald man, then surely he wouldn't oppose the sexual union between a grown man and a little baby girl. In fact, given his track record of sanctioning the deaths of women and children, and his preference for keeping sex slaves as a reward for a job well done, it would be unusual for him to react otherwise to the pedophilia.

The internet will lay waste to religion. Most religious people aren't religious anyway, especially the pastors. It's difficult to be holy when your job constitutes telling lies all day.

400billionman:
The Vatican does not belong to an individual my dear. Stop confusing an Institution with a person. I am a pentecostal but i do not belong to any of these confused businessmen. Nigerian pastors are persons who engage in personal aggrandizement. If you gain access to funds being controlled by one of these popular Nigerian pastopreneurs in his personal account, (Naira, dollar, pounds and Euro accounts all in millions) you will weep for the foolishness of Nigerian christians. You will understand why they change private jets like cars.

I have been close to some upcoming pastopreneurs too. Believe me, most are businessmen. The first interface i had with one of them even before i knew he was a Pastor passed him as someone who commands worship from anyone he meets. He insulted me, i told him off. One in my area has 3 personal cars, while 95% of his church members trek to church service every worship day. This is IDOL worship. If you get close to most of them, you did be convinced they are self centred craftsmen. Craftiness has grades. The more knowledge you attain, the lesser your gullibility. For me, i am still on a learning curve.

One thing that distinguishes men like Dangote is that they have very high IQ, not knowlegde based IQ for getting good grades in school, rather Problem Solving IQ, brains that process practical situations with ease.

Pastopreneurs process the gullibility of Nigerians. My ideal pastor is Apostle Johnson Suleiman. He has Gods message. Having attended almost all the popular pentecostal churches, only this guy impresses me with God's undilutted word.

Prosperity gospel, suit saying are some of their tools. God help me.

The Vatican maintains a FLEET of military and consumer aircraft. What are you saying?

Just when you think you've heard it all... Is this story even real? There was a man who beat up several women in MMA matches after undergoing a sex change operation. He wasn't even ashamed after the fact. These men have no balls. They are mental eunuchs.

starlingslimnet:
Not at all am only making an analogy,literal analogy.

The answer to my question is not a yes or no,its a question of what, so answer if you want to

I would do a host of things, none of which would involve roasting a human being. If my enemy teams up with a child of mine, and they both try to do me bodily harm, my reaction would be to mount some form of defense.

But like you said, your analogy was literal with no divine implications. Humans, as you know, use bullets and exploding projectiles because we are not all powerful beings.

starlingslimnet:
Any man that ends in hell chose hell for himself

A r)etarded child who wanders unattended and gets struck by a vehicle also chose his/her own violent demise.

johnydon22:
What will you do if your children disown you, burn them with your enemy?

Hahaha. Only mad children would dare to disown an omniscient father, which means that the God will be burning mental invalids. Just like Hitler used to do.

starlingslimnet:
In any where in my question do i infer omniscence? Kindly quote it. If none, then answer the question literarily

Yes. What's the point of being God if someone can subdue you in a combat situation? I figured that your comment was a reference to either the Muslim one or the Christian one.

Have you seen where the pope calls HOME? It's a sovereign state. LOL The sale of one of his paintings alone could convince Oyedepo to become his house boy. Or even Creflo Money, abi, Dollar.

Don't compare the pope's annual earnings with these multi millionaires please. That's disrespectful to the hard work put in by the Vatican over the centuries.

starlingslimnet:
I asked a simple question if you want to answer do,if you can't keep quiet

Only suicidal people, or the mentally deranged, would dare to disobey an omniscient acquaintance. That's my point. Your analogy didn't make sense, because the children were assumed to be SANE and not mentally ill. SANE children won't disobey an omniscient parent in order to combine forces with a much weaker enemy. Which part of OMNISCIENT are you missing?

Find out the percentage of humans who set THEMSELVES on fire annually, and you'll have the approximate number of atheists who voluntary choose to disobey your omniscient deity.

When omniscient people talk, EVERYONE listens. When a talking primate says that an omniscient person spoke with him, then I challenge the primate to prove it.

starlingslimnet:
If your children reject you as their father and take your enemy as thier father what will you do?

Children who SEE and LIVE with an almighty father would never reject him. However, if you've never met your father, and have listened to CLAIMS of him being all powerful, then it's possible to reject the man.

How can a child who has seen an ALL POWERFUL daddy in action leave to join forces with an opponent? Which enemy would dare to challenge an ALL POWERFUL foe? Does it make sense to you?

Whenever I come across a police car while driving, I slow down. The police isn't ALL POWERFUL, but they're powerful enough. Imagine if I knew an ALL POWERFUL policeman, one who can read minds and everything in between.

adedayourt:
Simple

work and try to be numbered among doz dat make heaven, den u can ask God in the face dat same ques

U should have kept quiet.

Antiparticle:
@OP:
I have no certainty about the existence of a creator either. But if there is one, he/she/it is definitely not the God of the Bible or Koran or any of the religions marauding themselves as truth.

And that's the point. Just like a poster above alluded to the billions of believers, those same billions contradict themselves. Some follow Mohammed, others follow Jesus. The number of believers then say nothing about the existence of God since they believe in DIFFERENT Gods. In the case of Islam, the believers are so convinced that Christians are talking rubbish, to the extent that they commit suicide to demonstrate that belief.

So there must be something other than the sample size which legitimizes the belief to a third party.

menesheh:
Think of what will happen in the case of a totalitarian regime that wants his subjects to worship him and obey whatever he commanded without question. Extend such dictatorial law to the next 1000yrs, then witness the birth of a new ideology.

North Korea has had a hundred years head start in that department.

winner01:
Someone should please explain what comprehension means to this guy.

Read my reply again, you'll get the point.

No I didn't get your point. You failed to address the scenario presented. I think you're being disingenuous, because something is hitting close to home.

winner01:
ill be more concerned if my kid told me;
-Dad, our fathers were animals, we shouldnt act any different.
-Dad, im a coincidence and so are you.
-Dad, im not relevant, why should i bother about life
-Dad, i can rob a bank, ill be rich if my operation is successful, afterall morality is subjective.
-Dad, ill have sex at 12, it no big deal.
-Dad, i can use you for rituals, im sure you love me and want me to be successful. (opps!!!sorry, no such thing as rituals too)
-Dad, arn't you tired of mom, go out and enjoy yourself, you've got only this life remember.
-Dad, ...........

You have no point dude. You are, because a Creator is.

Are you kidding me? Did you not comprehend the scenario presented or do I need to repeat myself? Try to stay on the topic this time please. Red herrings are not tolerated.

Let's try this again. You are a parent to a child who repeatedly holds dinner table conversations with an invisible friend called Chinye. Do you ignore the child or not?

KingEbukasBlog:
[size=18pt]They are full of hatred for and ridiculing a non existent being . Isn't that madness ?[/size]

Imaginary friends often annoy parents to the point where they either beat it out of the child or schedule a visit with the pediatric shrink.

If your brain wasn't sealed to reason, you'd understand. Wait until your child begins to talk to Eddie at the dinner table when there is no Eddie there.

stephenduru:
[size=18pt]Bros u dnt need a mere knowledge to understand God.You will understand Almighty God better if u are spiritual[/size]

Look closely at this space below:











Can you see a sequence of six numbers written vertically? Look again. Only people in the spirit can. Mumu and LIAR-in-chief.

You represent your deity well. Lying muthafkr.

Jason27:
Do you believe that religion is only problem we have on earth, killing, war, political problems, anytime this problems comes up, when you look at it clearly it's links to religion in one way or the other, your opinion pls, u can move this topic to front page to continue the conversation. Thanks.

Religion is the manifestation of the problem, not the problem itself. The ACTUAL problem is the unwillingness to speak the TRUTH. As a result, we have entangled ourselves in this religion business, with some pastors even daring to sell oil and pure water under the guise of those things being somehow remedial. One lie was all it took to set the ball rolling.

Pastors are the best liars on earth, followed very closely by politicians.