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favor914:
Right about what?

Lol nvm

favor914:
Indeed, IMF is Evil, Obi is a Mole, PBAT under pressure" -Farooq's Cognitive Dissonance“ topic was created for analytical minds to exchange ideas?

Don’t blame you oblivious Obidient.

boldbrainz is right though. If you slowed down to read the OP post you’ll see that I’m even supportive of the policies BAT has implemented so far even though one can question the pace.

Not sure how you’ve taken it so personally lol

BoldBrainz:
No arguments here. Again, you have to understand that if the elections were conducted under sublime and impartial circumstances, sampling just Atiku and Tinubu as the major contestants, Atiku would have won with a distinctive margin.

Despite the deep seated dislike the core North has for him, he would have had enough votes to guarantee his constitutional spread in that region and would have trounced Tinubu in the East, South South and Central, irrespective of what enthusiasts of BAT will have you believe.

Our disdain for Atiku's thievery is only bested by that which we have for Tinubu's kleptomaniac tendencies and even more so, his never ending zeal to conquer, capture and dominate political landscapes.

So in essence you’re saying the divide on Tinubu among southerners is one of character rather than ideology, because stealing money is more character deficiency than policy lol.

It’s an interesting theory but then that begs the question why a significant portion of the core north, who are socialist in general and are also thought to value character (part of Buhari’s popularity in the core north was his perceived honesty hence the nickname Mai Gaskiya) supported Tinubu. Was the religious angle just that strong?

EmperorCaesar:
Dumbo
If we are to judge by personalities, style of Governance and belief system. Academic Qualifications, Landmarks and even off-politics achievement, Iswear, Obi and BAT shouldnt be in same sentence

The only and last time time they appeared together was during the election period and BAT won...Elsewhere, they're not Equal

Pitobi is 2centuries behind BAT in intellectual prowess

My statement was very simple. Please try to keep up. Ideologically, Obi and Tinubu have 1000x times more in common than Tinubu does with Buhari. Do you disagree lol?

Or you’re only interested in hating an innocent man because e de boost your ego somehow lol

This post was inspired by Farooq Kperogi's article which you can read in full from the link at the bottom but these are the key bits that stood out to me:

One Professor Chris Nwokobia who was a member of the Labour Party/Obi-Datti Presidential Campaign Council lamented to Arise TV on June 29 that “Tinubu is copying Peter Obi’s planned policies, programmes.” Although it’s delusional to say Tinubu has stolen from Obi’s programs (because Obi didn’t even have a manifesto until the last few weeks of the election) Nwokobia is right that Tinubu is ruling as Obi would have ruled.

Obi is an ideologue of the Washington Consensus, a mole of the IMF and the World Bank in Nigeria. He is pro-market and anti-people. As a governor, he “saved” money and starved people. He fired workers for demanding a living minimum wage, caused needless deaths in hospitals when he ignored a one-year-plus doctors’ strike, and so on.

That was why the Western financial press supported him. Although Atiku Abubakar vowed to sell everything and take away subsidies, the World Bank didn’t trust his capacity to resist pressure, particularly because he is a northerner whose people would be the most hurt by the World Bank’s death pills.

They also thought Tinubu might be too populist to implement their agenda. Now they're pleasantly surprised that he's compliant to their prescriptions of death for the masses of our people. That's why they're praising him to the skies in their media. International praises are intoxicating for low-self-esteemed, legitimacy-challenged Third World leaders.

Tinubu thinks he needs the support of the World Bank, the IMF, and other racist Western financial institutions to shore up his legitimacy. He doesn't understand that the most important legitimacy he can have is the happiness of the people he governs.

I like reading Farooq's articles because he gives insights into northern politics that not too many explore and I agree with him sometimes but not today lol.

Can you see the framing of the politicians here? Obi is the evil "pro-market" politician, like that is even a bad thing. Tinubu, who is the one implementing these pro-market policies at extreme pace without a soft-landing for the masses, is just an innocent man who is being blackmailed by the evil "World Bank, IMF and racist Western financial institutions" lol. Meanwhile Atiku is a fraudulent liar who even the evil "World Bank, IMF and racist Western financial institutions" don't trust lmao.

It's interesting that the APC is an alliance seemingly built on a SW & Core North coalition when ideologically Tinubu and Buhari are completely opposite. Anyone paying attention can see that Tinubu and his cabal view Buhari's administration as a complete failure, as do most people outside the Core North in general. It is no surprise that Tinubu's frustration with the previous regime has meant that he has implemented an outburst of changes with little regard for the masses. The problem that Farooq and many northerners are having is simply one of cognitive dissonance. Buhari and Tinubu are both APC and muslim so they should govern the same way unlike Obi the devil. Like Birdbyrde440 said in his post yesterday "The North Is Socialist" (link below).

I've said it before and will say it again. Ideologically, Obi and Tinubu have 1000x more in common than Tinubu does with Buhari. Tinubu clearly believes in economic growth. You can question his character (and I do) but he is far from a socialist. He is a capitalist. If anything the pressure he will face during his time in office will come from the socialist North and not from any World Bank. The same cognitive dissonance Farooq is displaying is similar to the one Chris Nwokobia and many Obidients were displaying when they claimed that Tinubu was copying Obi's policies when in reality both candidates were always likely to move away from Buhari's policies of national poverty.

So why does there seem to be a divide between southerners when they are ideologically more similar and why is there a percieved coalition between the SW and the Core North when they seem to be ideologically more different? Maybe someone else can answer.

PS: Someone else will also have to answer why Atiku is so hated in the north lol

PSS: As much as I despise Wike, maybe he was right about one thing; It is the turn of the south

https://www.nairaland.com/7778373/imfs-neoliberal-sadomasochistic-paradise-finally
https://www.nairaland.com/7778167/warning-tinubu-should-remember-north

mynd44
OAM4j
seun
nlfpmod
Lalasticlala
mukina2
Dominique

Well well well

Universal disapproval from everyone

Let’s hope it’s fake

Garfield1 I thought Jonathan is a retired politician?

nairalanda1:
Most Nigerians, irrespective of religion, are Socialists....when it concerns the general economy, and Capitalists when it concerns their personal businesses and lives.

Lol that’s just not true

Many Nigerians (even some northerners like Sanusi) criticised PMB’s disgraceful devastation of the economy. In fact many of those who supported Tinubu (I wasn’t one of them) said they did so because he was different to Buhari and would encourage economic growth.

Many Nigerians (especially southerners) are capitalist at heart and simply need a striving economy to thrive, regardless of whether their tribesmen occupies the Villa or not.

Many people support the removal of subsidy, some just wanted a softer landing. Many people understand the economic illiteracy of Buhari’s dual naira rate policy in the name of “defending the naira”. The damage that policy alone did to this country is still not discussed enough. Foreign investment discouraged, currency round tripping encouraged. It was a disgrace.

The issues we are seeing today is as a result of the sharp divide between Buhari and Tinubu’s ideology, even though Tinubu was the one that stupidly put PMB in office. Tinubu is not being patient enough to try and fix things slowly. He must have had huge frustrations with how Buhari led the country hence the outburst of changes lol.

If you’re pro-APC, you should be enjoying the ride. You voted for it ❤️

Birdbyrde440:
It's the nature of Islamic way of life to be socialist, Tinubu should recognize that fact and do the needful

Lol next time maybe do your research outside religious sentiments and vote for an actual socialist

You rejected others that promised a softer landing with the removal of subsidy so enjoy the results

In the words of Wike, who I’m sure you love, “It’s the turn of the south”. The south is capitalist ❤️

Birdbyrde440:
All this talk of "market forces determining the price of fuel "
Should make the price goes back to old 180/litre, nobody is happy here
You people have removed the SUBSIDY on health care, transport, education now it fuel SUBSIDY , what have you done with the other subsidies?

It go red very soon.

I keep saying this shit. Ideologically, Peter Obi and Tinubu have 1000x more in common than Tinubu does with Buhari. It’s the redpill of Nigerian politics today.

It’s a shame that tribalism among southerners doesn’t allow us to ever have ideological discussions. I was completely against Tinubu before the election and still question his character but if he sticks to his guns on policy and delivers us from the economic hellhole that his failed predecessor put us in I’ll be Obidiently Batified.

But he needs to be less erratic and stick to his guns against Northern resistance. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Not holding my breath tbh

PS: Sorry I’m a Capitalist. Socialism just makes everybody poor. The problems we’re facing today were caused by Buhari’s economic illiteracy if we’re being honest. Tinubu just didn’t give anyone a soft landing with the changes but the changes are needed. Capitalism creates opportunities. Maybe Wike was right, it is the turn of the south lol. Tinubu should rule like it

Oblitz:
Ole

Go to court

Inspired by Garfield’s “Most popular politicians from the south south” post, here’s the most popular political leaders in the world, no ojoro

Cc: Garfield1

kokorokoman:
the best poll to test a politicians popularity is the elections.
Wike cleared all the electable positions in rivers during last elections, from local govt to house of Assembly to house of rep to senate to presidency. Opposition couldn't win a single seat in rivers.
Do you mean to tell me the people that voted were spirits? Politics is local and grassroots and wike is deeply rooted in that aspect.
Political influence and popularity is not social media gra gra, what can you offer in the field of play?

Lol okay sir ❤️

garfield1:
A lot of people like wike sir

You’re Mr. SS apparently. So tell us why you love Wike lol?

garfield1:
Why does he find it difficult to deliver rivers

If this is what you use to define “popularity” then you should have said so in the OP

If you mean “influence” then you’re talking about something else entirely and no one will argue with you

kokorokoman:
he is far more than what the op described him as.
There is no single governor that can do what he did in the last general elections in rivers.
It takes guts, political sagacity, ruggedity, connections and a very deep pocket to do what wike did in rivers during the last elections.
In terms of Influence, maybe very soon in the future his dynasty will crash like a pack of cards mostly if he is sidelined by the tinubu govt but for now....... Baba just comot hand for that manchi matter.

Okay he has connect, money and he can rig. We understand. The Rivers result shocked us all because no one expected that level of rigging lol. You’re right there’s no one else corrupt enough to pull it off something like that.

But is he popular among the people? Simple question. Maybe carry out a poll for us if you’re there lol

garfield1:
I think obidients are more like the goons than batists.hundeyin has some credibility as he's largely non aligned even though sympathetic to obi.most of Jackson's news during the campaign were false.that he's operating alone is the main reason why he is not trustworthy.sowore is the best,he has several people digging for news.ask yourself,who in tinubu circle will leak such info to Jackson? You think tinubu is as careless as buhari? Up till now,the ministerial list hasn't leaked and you are here believing mere speculations because it suits your desire to ridicule wike.

If it happened then someone from Wike’s circle could have leaked it

The incompetent Buhari keeps confirming his title as The Failure in Chief. History will not be kind

Fsboperator2:
Clown.

I was banned by your fellow Okoro.

Had to open another account to keep this thread alive.

By the time of next elections, fsboperator will be on its fsboperator541 account.


I dey kpampke.

🤣🤣🤣 I knew you would have excuses for your failure 💀

It’s always someone else’s fault abi lol. It’s okay I believe you boo boo ❤️

Fsboperator2:
Good morning

wegevv:
UPDATE: Just 2 days after FSBoperator promised to bump this thread every morning till 2031, he disgraced his family and failed to do so, proving to the internet that he is a failure like Buhari. No wonder he no get real work. Na only hatred of innocent men dey him body and him laziness no allow am even do that one well 💀

Oga I already noticed your failure lol. So what happened yesterday? Why you no bump thread? Na so you lazy reach? Your life’s purpose is to hate and you still manage to fail at that purpose lol

Life can be cruel sha. Keep doing your thing

PS: I knew you wouldn’t fail to disappoint me but I still love you boo boo ❤️

Wawu

Is nairaland the home of atheist lol

Be like every other profile I click on is one regardless of their political leaning

FSBoperator:
Goodie mourning!

Peter Obi will never ever be President whether you like it or not.

Good boy. I like it

Keep going. Every morning. Day 1 of 2720. Simple

If you’re successful, someone will give you real work. I’m sure

Don’t let down your family and future generations

Don’t be a failure like Buhari

I believe in you boo boo ❤️

Mr Yakubu! Ę ma ń se bi fraudster

FSBoperator:
And I expect you to answer my early morning Kedu to you .

Anything just for you boo boo ❤️

Early morning, late morning, doesn’t matter. Just before 12pm sharp, every single day till 2031.

Don’t let us down ❤️

FSBoperator:
In less than a month from now Una go call for this thread to be deleted .

My oga don’t let that deter you.

You made a promise. Stick to it.

Wake up before 12pm everyday and bump the thread.

Do it consistently for 8 years without fail.

Very simple something.

Don’t disgrace your family and your generation by failing to keep your word.

I believe in you ❤️

FSBoperator:
Every morning I will be bumping this thread till 2031 AD.

Okay let's see you do it.

Every single morning (before 12:00 sharp) till 2031.

You better not disgrace yourself by waking up late one day and displaying your laziness to the whole internet.

You better not disgrace your family by showing us Buhari-levels of incompetence and not keeping your word.

We know you have nothing better to do so you must do as you've promised.

Someone might even give you real work if you succeed.

Good luck lol


UPDATE: Just 2 days after FSBoperator promised to bump this thread every morning till 2031, he disgraced his family and failed to do so, proving to the internet that he is a failure like Buhari. No wonder he no get real work. Na only hatred of innocent men dey him body and him laziness no allow am even do that one well 💀

IconicR:
Jonathan, his Ministers and Buhari killed Nigeria and now Asiwaju is carrying the load alone 😢 and trying so sad to make Nigeria work again yet some few set of people are just spewing trash all over social media. Learn to solve problems from the root if you want a lasting result. This woman and others are the root cause of the problems we face today in our country. May God help Asiwaju to solve the problems

Wait wasn’t it Asiwaju who formed APC and repackaged the incompetent and bigoted Buhari that the country had already rejected numerous times for being an incompetent bigot?

He should fix the problems he created with his political ambition.

vannessa7:
Truth, the only way forward is to let them go, I don't know why they are like that but associating with them cannot help anybody, they are badluck for everyone, if there was no igbo Nigeria would have developed by now.

See genius analysis from someone that doesn’t know the difference between comma and full stop lol

Developer in chief 😂

ipobarecriminals:
failure? I dey enjoy peace of mind and all-round rest where i reside.I go breeze into the country in 7 days time and go back after 2 weeks

Okay I believe you ❤️

ipobarecriminals:
U better take life easy b4 you KILL yourself with hatred. Buhari is in his late 80 while u are probably on ur 20.Nor wundjure yasef

Thanks for the advice sir. I'll take it into consideration ❤️

In return, you should also learn to reject failure though. I hear it can be contagious lol

PS: In 8 years time, when the north says "it is our turn" again, we must demand better than the failed and bigoted Buhari

clydecarson:
Nobody is frustrating Tinubu. His hasty economic policies are giving the naysayers a voice to speak against him. He should act fast to ease the pain of Nigerians and they will all keep quiet


This is it..no one hate him but his foolish decisions are causing the hates even his own people hate him right now

He needs to decide if he's a capitalist or a socialist. Why not open the borders to directly reduce the price of food for the masses instead moving from one corrupted subsidy to another with his 8k palliative? Threading the middle will just lead to a different kind of failure.

The increase in government revenue is interesting. Let's see how the different states make use it. If I was Katsina, I'd keep the failed PMB as far away from state affairs as possible lol