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Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 3:59am On May 16, 2024

MaxInDHouse:
What about criminals and religionists who has nothing to do with faith in Jesus that are saying they've been to Heaven and Hell before when they come out of comma?

Ask them…
If GOD would reveal anything to anyone, He will, and no one can question Him on that.

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 3:28am On May 16, 2024

Kobojunkie:
LOL... so this holy Spirit you refer to, against Jesus Christ, made you this promise that Jesus Christ never sanctioned in His Everlasting Law? Basically, this holy spirit is antichrist in his intentions since he gives to you that which is not of Jesus Christ.
What aspect of what Jesus Christ said in the passage you quoted from earlier leads you to believe that this holy spirit you claim shows you those things is connected to the same Holy Spirit described by Him?

I have been taken down to Hell in the Spirit, and I have been taken to Heaven as well.
I have seen GOD when He revealed Himself to me and spoke to me.
I have seen Angels, I have seen demons.
I have seen Satan too when GOD showed him to me.
I have seen mysteries hidden from the mortal eyes, and that's a record for you to beat.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 9:26pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
My question to you again was, "Where did Jesus Christ state that He goes to His Father's house to prepare a place and that He will show the place to His followers before He comes back to take them there?"

JESUS CHRIST stated that when the Spirit of Truth comes, He will reveal things He (JESUS CHRIST) had not told us, to us. And then, the Spirit of Truth did just that.
Now you are rejecting and denying the power of the HOLY SPIRIT.

Christianity Etc › Re: Revelation: Agonizing Condition Of Mohbad, Michael Jackson & Bruce Lee In Hell. by Westerhoffe(m): 3:40pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
I take it then that you know you lied.

Like I said, your techniques are stale and don't work on me.

Go through your conversation with the man.

If not you know what I am saying, you should have asked me who I am talking about.

So go back through your conversations with him and see his question you refused to address.

We are waiting.

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 3:36pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
You are still not answering the question asked but flailing all over the place hoping you would by chance hit something. My question to you again was, "Where did Jesus Christ state that He goes to His Father's house to prepare a place and that He will show the place to His followers before He comes back to take them there?"

JESUS CHRIST stated that when the Spirit of Truth comes, He will reveal things He (JESUS CHRIST) had not told us to us. And then, the Spirit of Truth did just that and you are finding occasion to disapprove of it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Revelation: Agonizing Condition Of Mohbad, Michael Jackson & Bruce Lee In Hell. by Westerhoffe(m): 3:33pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
You say it is according to my claims yet you have yet to produce any evidence of me stating exactly that, how come?

Go through your conversations with him… or you expect me quoting all that when it's here with you?

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 3:31pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
This time, try to be certain you comprehend the question before you proceed. My question to you again was, "Where did Jesus Christ state that He goes to His Father's house to prepare a place and that He will show the place to His followers before He comes back to take them there?"

JESUS CHRIST openly said there that He has many things to tell them, but they can not bear them now, but that when the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide the true followers in all truth, and shew you things.

The verses are clear enough.

Or do you think all what JESUS CHRIST said in 33 years plus are written down?

Even the Bible said:

“And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.”
— John 21:25 (KJV)

I'm certain you have never received any revelation from GOD… and how would you when you're against GOD?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Revelation: Agonizing Condition Of Mohbad, Michael Jackson & Bruce Lee In Hell. by Westerhoffe(m): 3:24pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
Since you have yet to produce the exact post of mine containing the claims, I take it to mean that I never in fact said any of what you claim then but somehow you resolved to blame me for the confusion in your mind. I guess I am done here then!

Read the question the man asked you.
Or you think this is a debate, an argument, or a game?

The guy asked you for a clarification where he wants you to explain if JESUS CHRIST ascended from earth to earth according to your claims, and here you are trying to twist narratives…

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Christianity Etc › Re: Revelation: Agonizing Condition Of Mohbad, Michael Jackson & Bruce Lee In Hell. by Westerhoffe(m): 3:11pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
Again, Can you quote my words stating what you claim there, in bold? You accuse me of saying what I never said and somehow I am supposed to answer to it?

Acusing you?
Read the comment and the question the man is asking you and explain yourself to him; stop repeating words like a robot.

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 3:10pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, what?

John's vision recorded in Revelations 21 is a promise from Jesus Christ to you, how? My question to you again was, "Where did Jesus Christ state that He goes to His Father's house to prepare a place and that He will show the place to His followers before He comes back to take them there?"

If you are too far from JESUS CHRIST, how will He show you anything of Him?

John 16 (KJV)
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¹² I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
¹³ Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
¹⁴ He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
¹⁵ All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 2:44pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
So where did Jesus Christ state that He goes to His Father's house to prepare a place and that He will show the place to His followers before He comes back to take them there?

Revelation 21 (KJV)
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² And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

…
¹⁰ And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
¹¹ Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
¹² And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
¹³ On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
¹⁴ And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
¹⁵ And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
¹⁶ And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
¹⁷ And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
¹⁸ And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
¹⁹ And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
²⁰ The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
²¹ And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
²² And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
²³ And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
²⁴ And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
²⁵ And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
²⁶ And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
²⁷ And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Revelation: Agonizing Condition Of Mohbad, Michael Jackson & Bruce Lee In Hell. by Westerhoffe(m): 2:37pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
Can you quote my words stating what you claim there, in bold?

Explain yourself pal… he's waiting.

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 2:37pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
And Jesus Christ is a liar to you... I get it!

All those tricks of yours don't work on me… and you know it much too well…
I have been taken in the Spirit to both places. It remains fresh in my memory like it's overnight.

These happened in December 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 26th, 27th, and 28th year 2014.

If I say our LORD JESUS CHRIST did not show them to me, I'd be denying the truth of the Spirit of GOD, and be the same confused liar, a mislead, and misled like you are.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Revelation: Agonizing Condition Of Mohbad, Michael Jackson & Bruce Lee In Hell. by Westerhoffe(m): 2:31pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie, you should answer the question the guy asked.

He is asking that, according to you, did JESUS CHRIST ascend from earth to earth? Since you said the kingdom of Heaven is here on earth.

So, explain your confusion to him in clear terms.

Christianity Etc › Re: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 2:26pm On May 15, 2024

Kobojunkie:
What the man experience was of mental delusions and nothing more. No human has ever been to Heaven or Hell in the Kingdom of God..

I have been to, and seen both.

Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Westerhoffe(m): 2:24pm On May 15, 2024

JW is just one of those Satanically inspired religions we have on earth due to their intensive manipulation of the Bible.
Their method of manipulatively explaining the Bible is also Satanically amazing.

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Christianity Etc › Re: He Who Finds A Good Wife Obtained Favour From Womanhood And Not Any God. by Westerhoffe(m): 8:53am On May 15, 2024

SpiritualWealth:
"The Christian God" is The Concept Used By Your Colonial Slave Masters To Deceive You That A Sky Daddy Will Punish You If You Don't Do Their Biddings.

There Are Several Concepts of God According To Different Religions Across Different Regions of The World.

All of These Concepts of God Are Symbolic To People of Various Cultures Until Some Cultures Decided To Start Enforcing Their Own Religious Godly Beliefs On Other Cultures of Humanity.

With Various Crusades And Killings - The Christian God And Islam God Are Still Being Pushed And Causing Societal Damages in Nigeria.

The Insecurity That You See in Nigeria is As A Result of Poor Spiritual Understanding.

The Spiritual Understanding of Nigerians Is Rooted On Corruption, So There's Really NO HOPE For Nigeria Until Our Present Spiritual Foundation on Christianity And Islam Are Both Rooted Out.

With these said, I don't think you'd ever understand.

Christianity Etc › Re: He Who Finds A Good Wife Obtained Favour From Womanhood And Not Any God. by Westerhoffe(m): 10:20am On May 03, 2024

SpiritualWealth:
Our Response:

The First Lie:

"God is Love".

Which God is Love ?

The Christian God That Burns Little Children With Fire Because They Laugh @ His Prophets ?

Or

The Muslim God That Blesses The Muslims Who Persecute Other People All in The Name of 7 Heavenly Virgins ?

We All Already Know That " He Who Finds A Good Wife Have Found Favour From Womanhood" And Not From Any Man-Made God.

Wake Up.

May I ask you, Who is GOD?

Christianity Etc › Fayaball, Veecruz, And Stilldtruth Finally Accepted The Truth Of The Bible by Westerhoffe(op): 10:17am On May 03, 2024

It is cool that Veecruz, Fayaball, StillDtruth have now finally come to understand that It is not a sin, neither is it adultery for a man to have more than one wife, as long as he marries them legally, just as GOD had never in the Bible called it sin.

Also, you must follow GOD'S directive in ordering the conduct of your house if you have more than one wife.
Do not treat one better than the other if you want peace.

But this is not to encourage anyone to opt for several wives unless you can care for them and your children properly.

Likewise, no man, who has more than one wife should ever send away any of his wives because he is now converted to Christianity.

Bring your family to GOD and you all serve GOD together.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 10:11am On May 03, 2024

FayaBall:
Oh boy madness and delusions in overload ooo

Abeg go take your medicine before madness kills you

FayaBall:
No be display im go display?, I no need to buy the market.

StillDtruth:
Dat mean say you don buy madman market

I'm not mad, and even if you say that just to cast aspersions, I won't be bothered or deterred as they also said same to our LORD JESUS CHRIST:

“And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?”
— John 10:20 (KJV)

If they can say that to our LORD JESUS CHRIST, then who am I?

Christianity Etc › Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 9:53am On May 03, 2024

It is cool that Veecruz, Fayaball, StillDtruth have now finally come to understand, with our argument that It is not a sin, neither is it adultery for a man to have more than one wife, as long as he marries them legally, just as GOD had never in the Bible called it sin.

But this is not to encourage anyone to opt for several wives unless you can care for them and your children properly.

Likewise, no man, who has more than one wife should ever send away any of his wives because he is now converted to Christianity.

Bring your family to GOD and you all serve GOD together.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 9:50am On May 03, 2024

It is cool that Veecruz, Fayaball, StillDtruth have now finally come to understand that It is not a sin, neither is it adultery for a man to have more than one wife, as long as he marries them legally, just as GOD had never in the Bible called it sin.

But this is not to encourage anyone to opt for several wives unless you can care for them and your children properly.

Likewise, no man, who has more than one wife should ever send away any of his wives because he is now converted to Christianity.

Bring your family to GOD and you all serve GOD together.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 9:47am On May 03, 2024

Veecruz, Fayaball, StillDtruth have now finally come to understand that It is not a sin, neither is it adultery for a man to have more than one wife, as long as he marries them legally, just as GOD had never in the Bible called it sin.

But this is not to encourage anyone to start opting for several wives, unless you can take care of them and your children.

Likewise, no man, who has more than one wife should ever send away any of his wives because he is now converted to Christianity.

Bring your family to GOD and you all serve GOD together.

Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:20pm On May 02, 2024

MrPresident1:
The story of Adam and Eve is a story told end from beginning.

There was no record that Adam and Eve knew about idolatry in the Garden of Eden until they disobeyed GOD and ate the forbidden fruit.

Where did you get the idolatry from?
What were they worshiping?

If you had tagged it disobedience, I'd have concurred.

Christianity Etc › Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Westerhoffe(m): 8:14pm On May 02, 2024

Ken4Christ:
Sure. This is why we must keep preaching the gospel everywhere we go and to everyone we meet. Some will believe but most won't believe because of the pleasures of this world and the deceitfulness of riches. Blessed are those who hear and believe.

And may the One True Living GOD continue to strengthen us the more in JESUS CHRIST'S Mighty name.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:12pm On May 02, 2024

MrPresident1:
Adam and Eve is another name for Israel.

But Israel had not existed by the time of Adam and Even…

Christianity Etc › Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:10pm On May 02, 2024

AbuTwins:
He was a man approved of God with miracles and sent only to the lost sheep of Israel!

And then He said these:

John 20 (KJV)
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²⁰ And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
²¹ Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, EVEN SO SEND I YOU.

Matthew 28 (KJV)
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¹⁸ And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
²⁰ Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16 (KJV)
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¹⁵ And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
¹⁶ He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 1 (KJV)
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⁷ And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
⁸ But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Any further questions?

Family › Re: Another Proof Of Eve's Adultery Is Men's Affinity For Polygamy/cheating by Westerhoffe(m): 8:25pm On May 01, 2024

Rexymania:
Sorry but you're not making sense.... Your narrative is poor

He can't ever make sense when he himself has no sense...

Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:23pm On May 01, 2024

MrPresident1:
The filthy bloodthirsty murderous gods of the Canaanites

Jeremiah 32:35
And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

Adam and Eve built high places for Baal?

Christianity Etc › Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 5:44pm On May 01, 2024

MiddleDimension:
All of these and still not able to answer thr simple quesyion @Westerhoffe put to you all: Show either through the bible, or through the engliah meaning of the word ''adultery'', that polygamy is adultery. You still cannot!

And he can never answer it because he wants to dish out lies to the world, and he'll have contentions on that; and since he has no choice, he resorted to name calling, such as, "Satan, Devil, bla bla bla, thinking I'll be deterred, not knowing those are real triggers and more push to continue to counter his deception and lies.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamist, if God Gave Him Wives, Why Did God Accuse Him Of Takin Sum1s Wife? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:41pm On May 01, 2024

otipoju:
Don't mind the guy. People do only surface level thinking.

If God did not command anywhere not to marry more than one wife, and had very healthy loving relationships with men that had more than one and even says that it was he who gave one of such men many wives and if he wanted more, all he needed to do was ask....how than can you say polygamy is a sin.

Polygamy and monogamy are human preferences in intersexual relations.

Both have merits and demerits according to the times and environments where they are practiced.

What God judges an individual by is the condition of your heart towards him and How you treat other human beings.

You can be monogamous and be a wicked soul. You can be polygamous and be wicked.

You can be monogamous and be a righteous person.
You can be polygamous and be a Neighbour's person.

Everything marriage ends here on earth, it has no bearing in heaven.

Thank you.
Tell him more.

Veecruz, StillDtruth, FayaBall, I know all three monikers are one person, but either of them you login to, come and see another blast on your face and corrupted doctrines.

Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Westerhoffe(m): 5:38pm On May 01, 2024

MrPresident1:
How do you mean?

What idol(s) were they worshiping?

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