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Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 6:02pm On Jun 14, 2015
AhmedMustapha:
Well I don't know if you have any recent information on the economic buoyancy of Nigerian states but as at 2007 the top 10(in terms of GDP) had 4SS states, 2 NW states 3
SW states and 1SE state. Again on the debts some states are sunk in, if you checked that report I quoted it stated that most of the oil-rich states were indebted so the issue is prevalent across the political divide. Osun state YES is at its lowest ebb and I've countlessly denounced the governors incompetence but if you want to go political Osun is actually doing better under the APC.
As for Abia, salaries running into months haven't been paid and the partiality of the government in the equitable distribution of the dividends of democracy confirms its inefficacy
https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-
attainment



https://www.nairaland.com/2377269/list-states-owing-salaries-6

Abia is owing a section of its workforce not the entirety...don't get it twisted...owing salaries isn't good BTW...

how's osun better under APC with aregbesola as helmsmanhuh
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:50pm On Jun 14, 2015
AhmedMustapha:
I think you mean APC SE states
and what do you mean by Osun is owing debts for the next 30 years?
Imo state is the only SE state that's being declared insolvent by CBN notwithstanding it gets the highest allocation in the entire SE...

Having declared Osun state insolvent giving the huge exposure to internal and external debts including the interests...now add it to the arrears of civil servants for more than seven months running now...deduct it from their average of their federal allocation noting that federal government is NOT owing them any kobo...and tell me when they will be free...

Kindly note that the external debts aside the ever increasing interest will keep growing with depreciation of the naira...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:34pm On Jun 14, 2015
PassingShot:
In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.
As usual shifting blames to others....hehehehe

1)How is FG insolvent plzzzz?

2)Inequalities in allocation was duly considered hence comparative analysis was made between states with similar challenges and allocations....

3)Any bail out that neglects the conditions listed in the original post is a call for anarchy and chaos by buhari...that's if there will be bail out at all...

4)If APC is better than PDP as you people are forcing us to believe... why are they neck deep in debts both internally and externally?... Why is cost of contracts costlier than in PDP states?....where are the sophisticated and heartless thieves actually?...how can one jeopardize his state future for a whopping 30yearshuh...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:28pm On Jun 14, 2015
Tecnonews24:
I may not be talented in writing, but I do know the APC WAS not change Nigeria needed. no matter what you tell and show to an APC followers, they will still not believe, even with glaring evidence to buttress your point. the reason for that is not far fetched. I guess many of them have been brain washed, no matter what u say it won't hold water, that include the party big wigs. I live in rivers state, I was here when Rotimi ameachi reclaimed his mandate through the court with the help of wike. everybody in rivers state including myself love the man because he hit the ground running from the first day and he perform wonderfully well. that was his first tenure. but the Man became something else when he started missing with APC Folks then ACN . No new project Was started After his eventual defection to the APC . even the once he started befor his defection was abandoned. there is more to APC than people know. I just pity the brain washed followers.
It is such a pathetic situation bro...it is synonymous to Adolf Hitler followership back then in history...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
patrickmuf:
That you choose two regions and not do a wholesome analysis of the state of affairs of the various States indicates big time bias...Talk about sentiments...
cheesy thanks...I did enough comparative analysis to justify my thread...if you think otherwise, I challenge you to do a better analysis and invite me...let's work on facts bro...

btw I choose debts burden today both domestic and international as my yardstick to xray the economic situation in such states and their citizens wrong diagnosis of issues...Try same to counter me...thanks
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:19pm On Jun 14, 2015
After1one:
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Rubbish from a bigot. You are the one to grow up and stop pouring smelling spit everywhere. Your region is owing same as SW states, your region is not dubai nor eldorado. Abia is in ruins but you have not open a thread to advice them, nothing to write home about Ebonyi but the chief adviser is making noise about SW.

Pls face your region and allow SW people to complain, this thread will be necessary if the people of the SW are trooping to your region to beg which is not the case. Pls advice yourself before advising others.
Thank you Sir...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:16pm On Jun 14, 2015
SarahBabyxx:
Naaah! I'm good hun......I know when and where to point fingers and throw subtle jabs wink....you can't take away sentiments from political or ethnic issues
You were soo quick to accuse me of being 'sentimental'....when your comments have sentimental undertones....exactly why I asked you to look in the mirror smiley
Sure, I know this topic is a subtle abi delicate issue especially coming from a non-indigene...but the truth must come from somewhere and my moniker forces me to do the needful cheesy

And to allay fears of bigots and ethnic champions, I had to also xray my misgivings with SE states that are erring too...You came in and dropped bottle of origin for someone who's defending the ineptitude of these thieves in the mold of leaders using the maxim; others are owing too...Does my father being a robber justify my having to toe same line?...Some days we need to drop sentiments and give some hard knocks in the mold of truth even to our best of friends...

How do you feel knowing your state is owing debts for the next 30years?...how old are you now? Add 30 to it and see when some people will become free that's if they do not borrow again from now onwards...

Instead of confronting such leaders, their people are confronting me for speaking up...what kind of people are we?...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 5:00pm On Jun 14, 2015
After1one:
Southwest advisers. We dont need your advice, your region need more of it. Abia, Imo, Ebonyi, are owing salaries except Anambra but you keep screaming SW. I know this is another SW bashing thread, we will be here to reply in kind.
Hehehehe...don't be myopic bro...

1)Because of your prejudice, you fail to comprehend the post before rushing here to display ineptitude...

2)This thread is about exposure to external debts in terms of loans, obligations etc both domestically and internationally...

3)Don't always see or view stuff through your tribal lens...this is the reason for this thread...

4)SW will be free the day people like you refuse to use the three prong criteria of religion, tribe, and party to determine truths and facts...

5)How can you be calling me a hater when your "enemy" within has made it that for the next 30years, the sons & daughters of Osun state will be paying ONLY debts...same to other SW states...instead of confronting him, you're shielding him and fighting me...

6)I am today an adviser to you because due to your bigotry, you fail to know that wise men learn from both the wise and foolish...Best advise must NOT come from your kinsman...grow up Boy!!!
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 4:48pm On Jun 14, 2015
patrickmuf:
Selectivity on play here, you leave out states like Benue, Plateau and the likes just to justify your attack on the APC... I'd like to also know your take on the FG which also ran into huge debts overtime...
Half truths, bias and hate doesn't cut it for me...
Hehehehehe...My concern here is that we shift our attention to where our problem is...federal government is NOT a grassroot government... Have you ever asked a question, on what the money from federal government MONTHLY to your LGA is used forhuh...how about the state?...how about your legislatures?...If you think I am biased here; I challenge you to open your own thread, structure it however you want and invite me for deliberations on facts not sentiments... thanks...

BTW federal government can always take care of itself unlike States...hence my attention is on states...I chose to do comparative analysis of two regions of my choice...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 4:38pm On Jun 14, 2015
SarahBabyxx:
Look in the mirror bruh....#nuffsaid
I already did before coming out babe...why not try same and tel me the result?...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 4:32pm On Jun 14, 2015
AhmedMustapha:
Someone pointed it out to you that 18 states were owing salaries and other arrears and the quoted source included PDP and APC states from the North South East and West but of course the hypocritical you trashed it as one of those incoherent ramblings from the APC fanatics. I have never believed that we have political parties in the country, I call them platforms for the attainment of power so the problem has never been about parties but the system in which the country operates. Before that guy responds to the bolded, you mind telling him what Abians have enjoyed for the 16 years under PDP? Not to worry though, I know your reply-The people from there are so strong they don't need government to survive.
As for your nefarious claims of the debt profiles of states, look into this report
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/fgs-external-debt-states-debt-profile-on-the-ris
Bros, I don't understand your line of argument...

Is it that ALL SW states are not owing domestically and internationally?

Is it my stance that these debts burden are not sustainable?

Is it my submission that these people are enslaving generations unborn?...At the moment, Osun is already owing for the next 30years...How do you explain to a child born today, that his future has been mortgaged negatively till adulthoodhuh...

As for Abia state; they knew where the problem came from and they fought it and are continuing through tribunal...BTW Note that the issue in Abia is about a part(Aba; commercial centre) of the state feeling neglected and abandoned while other part (Umuahia; administrative centre) is being pushed ahead...

Problem of SW is in individuals not in platforms...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 4:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
SarahBabyxx:
#word

A bottle of orijin for you sir cheesy
Also remember to read my replies to him before he finishes the bottle of origin...we just applaud whatever appeals to our sentiments than what should be...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 4:14pm On Jun 14, 2015
huptin:
Mind you, I am not saying SE/SS are infallible but based on the propaganda in the system today, why should APC states be dyinghuh...it is contradictory and worst heat are my brothers in SW...

In as much as i wanted to agree with you on some valid points you raised, saying that south west states are the worse hit is a big lie.....Abia state is in the east, the state is the first to start owing workers, infact as we speak, the state is owing its workers for over 10 months, Enugu owes workers of its parastatals for 10 months also, imo is owing for 5 months, out of 5 south east states, 3 are owing.
Even Akwa Ibom state, the richest in terms of oil rrvenue is also owing, Rivers state nko? Benue is totally moribund, Bayelsa might be managing to pay its workers because of the small size of its civil service but even the governor admitted that most capital projects have been on hold now for over a year.

You cant compare the staff strength of Anambra's civil service to that of Osun, Osun has a much bigger stafg strenght. Even Soludo criticised the Anambra government for deciding to save money instead of investing the money in projects that will galvanise the state into an economic hub.

It does not make sense saving money when 80% of your indigenes have to migrate to to other places if they hope to make any head way in business.

Yes our governors have been wasteful and stupid, but it is not in any way limited to the south west governors, it is a national thing. And GEJ did not help matters he allowed a culture of waste to thrive without any attempt to check it.

The era of oil is gradually coming to an end, its time to buckle up and face realities, as for the south west.... don't bother about us, if the Abacha and Goodluck era could not bring us down, we shall surely survive.
Thanks so much bro...I love your submissions to a great extent...but now;

1)Most states you mentioned in SE owe in patches to singular sectors not the bulk of its civil servants...

2)To say Osun state has more workforce than Anambra is a big lie...I remember brownlord sharing his personal experience of Osun state workforce especially in education sector here...which is a far departure from the scene in Anambra state...

3)Soludo to show he was doing a hatchet job was insulting Jonathan for not saving and in same article criticizing Peter Obi for saving...how biased can one get?...He lost my respect for speaking from both sides of his mouth at same time...

4)SW is worst hit because Osun is far dead economically for the next 30years...Oyo is neck deep in debt alongside Ogun...intact all of them including Lagos...but SE have some exceptional states...Anambra is doing well economically and in infrastructure development...They have the best road network in Nigeria currently...

5)If you read the original post...you will see where I noted that Imo state led by Rochas has no business being declared insolvent only if they had good leaders like their neighbors;Anambra...Remember, Imo state is oil producing state like Ondo unlike Anambra...

6)Igbo migrate not because their state is underdeveloped but rather do to the issue of comparative advantage in business opportunity, development and management...Shell, GE etc are in Nigeria not because Nigeria is more developed than USA but same reason as above...

7)Debts here isn't just salaries but domestic and international debt burden of different states...All SW states are owing so much...

coolYour problem has less to do with leadership at centre(Both Jonathan and Abacha you listed above) than in the grassroots... your LGA and states with Tinubu factor through proxies and companies for inflated contracts....

9)SW gained more in terms of infrastructure from Jonathan than SE...#fact#

10)Your problem is within...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:48pm On Jun 14, 2015
atlwireles:
Please interpret, broda mi, is where I stopped cool cool
gringrin you would have used Google to interpret nah cheesy ...Anyway, it means we won't for the fear of death run away from warfront...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:46pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
How many times must we show this on Nairaland?
Kindly show me again plz bro...I just gave you mine now without much ado...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:44pm On Jun 14, 2015
doublewisdom:
Okada drop me for here.

Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:42pm On Jun 14, 2015
atlwireles:
I told you this was mission impossible. grin grin grin grin grin
gringringrin broda mi...aga eji mgbagbu ghara ogu?...cheesy
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:39pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
Hehehehe.......brother's keeper at work.

Please do not disturb.
BTW you didn't bring your own link again to counter me objectively... what happened?... why not bring it on here bro?...where's your " All economic indices still point to that fact that the SW is far more productive than the SE"huh...


even when relief materials are being sent to Osun state and its mate in Ebonyi state is soldiering on...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:34pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
Hehehehe.......brother's keeper at work.

Please do not disturb.
cheesy Sure I am...your problem lies in individuals not in platforms...unfortunately you have embraced your "enemies" with all the warmth and strength you have...Wake up now...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:32pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
Force you to derail what you started on your own? Are you kidding me?
If you want to know what what I'm capable of, you need to do better than this thinly veiled albeit meaningless junk analysis.
cheesygrin Learn to look at what I am pointing out to you and not concentrating on my finger...Your prejudice and ethnic biase is what you're projecting on me...Look beyond your nose...I am not here to bash anybody but to remind you of what a wrong diagnosis you're making...thanks
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:25pm On Jun 14, 2015
Lalasticlala and Ishilove... this post is aimed at educating my brothers on making right diagnosis of their problems and knowing exactly the panacea...kindly do the needful for improved audience and emancipation of my people politically and mentally... thanks in anticipation...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:19pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
You probably think you are making a whole lot of sense! You are not, and If folks don't understand your article it is only because it lacks substance.
All economic indices still point to that fact that the SW is far more productive than the SE.
https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment

Plz this is my last reply to you if you wanna reduce me to start throwing muds with you in the name of ethnic supremacy...

I wrote this article because I believe the people of SW are making wrong diagnosis which means that solution isn't forthcoming any moment yet...Not to engage in any ethnic supremacy rant with you as it seems that's the best capacity of your brain...


If you see no meaningful stuff in my write up...kindly quit and don't force me to derail into ethnic banter here plzzzz
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 3:02pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
You probably think you are making a whole lot of sense! You are not, and If folks don't understand your article it is only because it lacks substance.
All economic indices still point to that fact that the SW is far more productive than the SE.
Plz can I see those economic indices here plzhuh
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:58pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
Is Anambra the only state not having problems paying salaries? Are there other states in the south west paying salaries? If so why are you specifically mentioning SW states?
If a loan was taken to build a road or build a school did you factor in the economic benefits of those things to the future of that child from Osun as compared to the one from Anambra?
This is a futile attempt to single out the SW for bashing and you are doing a pretty bad job.
cheesycheesy don't be somewhat myopic...I am pointing at an object and you're rather concentrating on my finger instead of seeing what I am pointing at...Have you ever seen this moniker comment on any tribal bashing threadhuh

What's the economic benefit of the world tallest drum for which the child in Osun state willll keep paying debts for the next 30yearshuh...Now, compare it to a child from Anambra with no debt and good education... what do u seehuh...Have you been following recent academic ratings of states and schools?...With all the debts, which SW state outside Lagos do you still surviving any further?

Mind you, I am not saying SE/SS are infallible but based on the propaganda in the system today, why should APC states be dyinghuh...it is contradictory and worst heat are my brothers in SW...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:41pm On Jun 14, 2015
Truckpusher:
Before you blame GEJ. and the PDP ,you'll need to kill Obasanjo who had 8yrs of undisturbed governance and the last time I checked he's now screaming change and even doubles as APC 's navigator.

And before you even go further,let me also remind you that the current economic woes befalling the APC's states has no the same effect on their fellow Southern states.
Some of these folks reasoning push one to begin to imagine sometimes if the unfortunate high unemployment rate isn't somewhat justified giving the capacity of brains you would be employing...I wonder f the guy you quoted read and understood this article before jumping to comment and quote you cheesy

Jesuslovesyou, plz how is the poor in Amukoko, Mushin, Ajegunle etc faring under APC 16years?

How's the people of Osun faring after over 11years of APC leadership?

How's these SW states faring compared to their SE/SS mates whose economy ran under same Jonathan administration?

Is anybody sending relief materials to themhuh
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:33pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
States as paired by whom? Are two states axactly alike? What is a huge debt for Ebonyi, Anambra and Imo may not be for Lagos or Ondo.
Where did you folks study your own economics?
No need engaging you anymore...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:29pm On Jun 14, 2015
atlwireles:
You picked a mission impossible. Everyone will reap what they sow. The bible says, if you sow bountifully you will reap bountifully.
We just have to speak up first bro...silence isn't golden here...

Cc..jackeeh...come and enjoy political discuss...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
Your analysis is flawed on so many levels. Not only ACN controlled states are facing the cash crunch. The problem started when Nigeria lost a major market for its oil and the prices of crude fell.
This was obviously not helped by Jonathan's mismanagement of oil revenues and the economy in general.
To single out SW states is not only simplistic but also foolish.
And this mindset of people like you fueled this article...

1)List out the areas or basis under which my analysis is flawed...don't make empty blanket arguments...

2)I did comparative analysis of states against their counterparts with similar challenges and allocations...

3)Why not counter me based on the analysis as stated above...

4)Anambra state that just increased its salary payment to workers by another 15% with NO SINGLE KOBO DEBT operates in same economy mismanaged according to you by Jonathan...

5)I singled out SW because of their hypocrisy and belief that PDP is their problem while their leaders at home in ACN/APC keep enslaving them the more...

6)How do a child from Osun state hope to enjoy same future as one from Anambra when his governor has accumulated debts that will take nothing less than 30years to clear supposing prices of oil doesn't fall any farther downhuh
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 2:12pm On Jun 14, 2015
omenka:
Op your arguments and assumptions are horribly lopsided. For your enlightenment, read this report: www.punchng.com/news/unpaid-salaries-strike-imminent-in-18-states/

Haba, fear God oo. cheesy
1) Bro, this same link was what Ngeneukwenu abi Cleverly based her/his argument on to defend over 11years of ACN/APC mismanagement of Osun state treasury...So it doesn't hold any water because it has been trashed yesterday...

2)How does it exonerate the fact that ALL South-West states are neck deep into HUGE debtshuh

3)How does it stop the huge discrepancy between states with seeming same challenges as them and same allocations faring better?

4)Based on states as paired above, I challenge you to dispute these facts are laid out by me...

Your last comment is actually meant better for you...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 1:55pm On Jun 14, 2015
atlwireles:
Nigerians are ignorant and very pretentious. Jonathan is gone now, most cannot blame him for their poor social,economic and political skill. The time to pay the undertaker has come. The current economic landscape will be here for at least 24 months, if not 48.
Sole aim of this piece is simply to educate my brothers of South-West who were brainwashed into believing that PDP is their problem, while the enemy within milks them dry and subjects them including unborn generations to wanton debts with no projects to show to hardship unending... How has 16years of ACN/APC rule in Lagos being with the poor masseshuh...Rich keeps getting richer in Lagos...Over 12years of ACN/APC rule in Osun state has left the state bastardized... So is it still now PDP as their leaders told them through wicked propagandahuh
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 1:46pm On Jun 14, 2015
Aigbofa:
What a load of bull crap. Ebonyi healthy economically? Is this a comedy routine?
Load of bull crap indeed tongue ...Compared to Osun state as the article did...Is Ebonyi not healthy economicallyhuh... Dispute this fact objectively based on the comparative analysis of those states as paired and see if your aren't erring...
Politics › Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(op): 1:39pm On Jun 14, 2015
Merry Sunday brethren...kindly do not turn this thread into ethnic bashing thread...Intelligent discuss will be welcomed...Cc. Seun, Lalasticlala, Ishilove, Obinoscopy, Ngwakwe, Mynd44, Truckpusher, Firefire, Zimoni, temitemi1, barcanista, Dearpreye, Francizy, SeverusSnape, Scholes007, Mizmycoli, Mogidi, Anonimi Altwireless Ifyan, Tomakint, Agabai23, OremusSanctus,Komek,hush15, Ecoterrors, Descartes, Gbawe, Passingshot, theVoice, Caseless, Cleverly, donphilopus,cramjones,HzRF, and other brethren here & around...let's go!!!

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