₦airaland Forum

socialmediaman:
I'm really tired of all these name saving for Jonathan. He failed, nothing short of failure can truly paint a picture of his performance.

This is the real story:

In 2012 January 1st, Jonathan announced an end to the petrol subsidy. NLC reacted and mobilized the masses who were taken by surprise. (This was not a party issue).

The NLC replied the government, "Fight The corruption in the sector first, you will have nothing to subsidize"... Jonathan never did this.

What are the corruption in the oil sector imports? There are thousands, but I'll name just a few outstanding ones:

1. Importers bring in petrol into the country and inflate the figures. Let's say an importer brought in 1 vessel, he brings a claim for 20 vessels, he is paid subsidy for the 20 vessels, no inspection to see if these vessels entered the shores of Nigeria, Nothing. They are just paid. This is crazy! No serious government will tolerate this, but Jonathan choose to ignore it

2. Importers bring in vessels into the country. After getting paid for subsidy, they divert these products to neighboring countries where the petrol sells higher, and they make double profits while we experience scarcity. It is noteworthy that these people do not fly these products into neighboring countries, they drive them, passing immigration and customs at our borders. Isn't this crazy? This is how people will be using our borders to import arms and illegal dangerous weapons, do we have a government, really? This was no problem for Jonathan.

3. NNPC imports products and intentionally delay these products from being offloaded for months so as to incur demurrage and share the proceeds with the vessel owners, they were indicted severally for these

4. Even with all these fraud and impunity by these oil marketers, many of them still get import waivers that cost Nigeria $20 billion dollars in revenue as pointed out by NOI in 2014.

Lots other crimes, this is just a teaser...

So what was Our apprehension?
NLC and Nigerians generally believed that unless you fight corruption in the sector, if you remove subsidy, these cabals will gang up and hoard these products so they become expensive again, what will the president do? If he could not fight corruption in the first place, how could he control impunity by the same greedy marketers?

Conclusion
This rubbish of leniency and kid gloves on sensitive matters such as embezzlement, fraud, impunity and corruption will end with President Jonathan's government. Nigerians deserve better. These cabals know we have a toothless president but they are yet to see the reward for their sabotage

Ps: I think Ifeanyi Uba is only being sensible and smart, they probably have got wind of the hurricane that will sweep them away in the coming weeks and it only makes sense to sacrifice and stay in business. These country hijackers haven't seen anything yet

bro...deregularization would have saved us the pain of this long article...

NLC started a protest which was hijacked by political parties...and later culminated in deaths...

You cannot fight corruption when you have no evidence because inasmuch as you know the marketer shortchanged you but how do you prove it beyond doubt in court....These things by marketers are just too easy to divert and make double profit.....

Our experience in fertilizer abi agricultural sector would have been same here if Jonathan had succeeded with subsidy removal....

Most times, we become too sentimental that we lose our head....

Now, proffer solutions that are better than what Jonathan did....say the what and how plz

PassingShot:
To buttress your points, the partial subsidy removal that eventually took place, were the promised palliatives provided?

The SURE-P program, as has been revealed just last week that the employee figure was inflated from 12k to 35k, is another evidence of the scam.

The buses that were promised, where are they today? The refineries, where are they?

Bottom line:
1. I believe there was no true subsidy in the first instance. What we had was an imaginary subsidy.

2. If there truly was subsidy, GEJ could have handled the removal in a more responsible manner than just announcing through the radio, on January 1st 2012, that subsidy was removed. No where in the whole world will such action go unchallenged. He needed to have discussed it with major stakeholders the need to remove subsidy. Ibb, Abach and even OBJ removed some subsidy and we witnessed how they handled it.

3. Nigerians, by rejecting the subsidy, were able to reduce/limit their loss had we allowed full subsidy removal.

4. Now that majority of Nigerians believe we have a more trust-worthy president in Buhari, they will accept a subsidy removal (if there was any) provided they know what they'd get in returns in predetermined dates.

Who inflated those figures if its true bro?
Jonathan brought buses for mass transit and was given to each state...what did you state do with theirs?

https://www.nairaland.com/2306903/why-refineries-cant-work-least

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ngige-seeks-privatisation-of-refineries/106735/

Jesusloveyou:
u are right, but which subsidy? I never believe in subsidy, it is gej that is selling us to cabal,we protested against subsidy scam,not actually subsidy removal, we told gej to make our refinery work,before removing subsidy, if d refinery is working,we can purchase fuel @60naira, that is why me and buhari said we don't know what u mean by subsidizing us, who is subsidizing who? What we know is subsidy scam, remove d scam,we wil buy d idea of subsidy removal.

I support our refineries be put back to function but there's subsidy bro...I don't like arguing blindly especially on matters whose technicalities, I don't understand... but you can read up the attached thread here...

https://www.nairaland.com/2306903/why-refineries-cant-work-least

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ngige-seeks-privatisation-of-refineries/106735/

patrickmuf:
Before you start your image laundering, I'd like you to quote what GEJ said after the removal of partial subsidy...
Did he promise refineries?
Did he promise palliative measures would be taken to ease the pain associated with the partial removal of subsidy?
You're in a hurry to rope the ACN/APC in...Please do a more constructive write up or zip up...

Was there palliative measures after all?...
what was sure-p with its interventions in various sectors for including transport and health?...mass transit buses was for what?...

Truckpusher:
Where are those Lagosians that were protesting like they are the only people being affected by the fuel subsidy in 2012?


This is what you get when a particular section of any country is used to freeloading.

The marketers simply bamboozled them and they protested against their own future .

Jonathan shouldn't pay any dime, let the olodo General they so much loved pay up and see what our Jona was passing through in the hands of these criminal marketers ,and again has anyone bothered to ask why is it that most of these marketers are from a particular section of the country ?
Nigeria needs serious restructuring abeg before we go for each other's jugular.

Baba said he doesn't understand subsidy...these marketers may teach him the hard way

barcanista:
My brother, the problem with the subsidy regime is troubling. However, removing it comes with challenges because the marketers will use the opportunity to rip us. We have no refinery, we have problem of mass transit, we have electricity p®oblem and all these wÍll affect the economy and businesses if the subsidy is removed overnight without fixing some of these things. Yes, the subsidy has to go but we should put mechanism in place for smooth removal. Sadly, our system is so flawed and corruption at every level is so pronounced. I supported the protest then but I wanted a deal that will see gradual removal while things are put in place. But what are we getting?

I blame the Government for not doing what they ought to. I also blame the Marketers for being fraudulent and insensitive. The public too should be blamed for not knowing what they want. Most importantly, I blame the clueless labour

When the situation at NITEL became irredeemable and it was opened up, were we ripped off?

There's always a regulatory agency to monitor arbitrary price increase...

Government can always support or indirectly control the prices by doing some retail through their own mega stations too...

Mass transit was started by Jonathan then...what happened to those buses and their operators?...corruption is deep in Nigeria DNA including the poor people...

barcanista, dearpreye, Truckpusher, Passingshot, 4play, Francizy, Mogidi, Anonimi, Altwireless, Severussnape
Attn:
Obinoscopy Lalasticlala and Ishilove

Nigeria and Nigerians seems to be confused today which way to go thanks to fuel scarcity. And one begins to wonder how can a mother that has big restaurant with numerous customers daily have her children die of starvation?...This is the fate of Nigeria today albeit painful.

Unfortunately, we allowed most of the problems we see today by our actions and inactions. We are a people easily manipulated and bulldozed with propaganda and lies. We are simply smart by half...We refuse to look beyond our noses; while policy formations of government are supported based on; (a) Who's talking?...(b) What party is he?...(c) What tribe is he?...(d) What religion?...(e)Does it benefit me at least for today?...and other such myopic considerations...At the end, good policy formations are sacrificed at the altar of partisanship. And we keep complaining as usual...

Today a group not sufficient to form a kindred are holding us ransom and we groan with little option in view. They engage in business with no risk, because we the people through government bear and pay for all the risks involved in their line of business...What a business line to be in...Even exchange rate differentials are borne by government for them; hence their singular obligation here is to smile to banks at our detriment.

Jonathan cried and pleaded that we extricate ourselves from this people by removing subsidy in January, 2012; but unfortunately we chose to support these greedy businessmen than our president. Deregulation of that sector was killed. And all attendant problems continued.

Yes, today we still cry corruption in oil sector, bureaucracy, and scarcity occasioned by hoarding of products as well as round tripping of products. All these problems to me would have ended if we supported Jonathan in 2012 to deregulate that sector and open it up to competition and transparent undertakings. We rather supported the "cabal". Now, the poor is subsidizing the rich. Business of oil is undertaken with no risk by the businessmen. We choose to kill a proactive measure by Jonathan that would have cleaned and opened up that sector. Partisanship defined our actions than patriotism.

Which way Nigeria?... Yes, we still shift blame to Jonathan as the president. But what was your role in 2012 subsidy wahala?...Because all these problems could have been averted but we chose otherwise. By refusing deregulation, we supported and fed these monsters of a cabal.

Thanks to Ifeanyi Ubah(Capital Oil); that chose to save us now by opening up his tank farms and jetties. But for how long can we continue like this? Do you cure typhoid fever by simply taking care of the headache?...

ACN/CPC now APC fought against subsidy removal. I hope they keep their words and keep feeding these few. At least we can always borrow more to pay the cabals in case we have no money domestically again...thanks

PassingShot:

I need answers or quit blackmailing people...

PassingShot:
Liar!

As at the time OBJ was leaving office, Nigeria didn't have external debts (I stand to be corrected if wrong) and Yar'Adua left over $40 billion in ECA which sadly is now $2 billion.

NOI is the next worst thing to befall Nigeria after GEJ.

What an intelligent, smart and informed being would have done is to provide verifiable and veritable link to counter her on this if you think she's lying...and not insult someone FAR better than your mother here...try Google for your mother's name and achievements before insulting other people's mother...

Rawani:
I am not one of your sentimental quasi-analysts encumbered with vindictive bile which suppresses their rational abilities. Jonathan robbed this country broke and no words should be minced in stating this fact. The call for a probe is to determine the extent and degree of his misdemeanors which will inform the measures that will be taken to mitigate the effects, and determine appropriate punishment for the kleptomaniac.

Your inability to synthesize Jonathan's many failures and it's adverse effects on your life and that of other Nigerians for sentimental and perhaps sadistic reasons speaks volumes about your reasoning capacity and unfortunately skewed value system.

What are you saying

PassingShot:
Who are the people you think will come out unscathed?

Diezani, Abba Moro, NOI, Stella oduah, Bala Muhammed, Musiliu Obanikoro, Farouk Lawan and their likes can NEVER escape guilty verdict.

I don't care a bit about anyone who is found or not found guilty anyway. I just know that it is the right thing to do for the country to start getting things right.

You're an illiterate... is lawan a cabinet member

Can you tag a clear case of corruption to these names you mentioned for which they will be convicted

OduaVanguard:
Jonathan and his cohorts must be probed and if need be jailed for wrecking the Nigerian economy. By now that should be a no-brainer.

They've been lying to us all this while about the true state of the economy. They need to be held accountable.

Was it Jonathan that brought the debt burden on Osun, lagos, Ogun, Oyo, etc? Aren't you worried that all SW states are neck deep into debts with no means of sustenance outside federal allocation

Between your region cum states and Federal government; who should you be afraid of its debts and ability to pay?

socialmediaman:
This will be very good for democracy. I don't care who is involved, whether APC or PDP, I just want the government to set a precedence that says "if you're caught stealing, no mercy".. It's digusting that people would embezzle money when there are very legitimate ways of making money if you're privileged to be close to government. This country is useless without enforcement of law. I don't give a damn about party affiliation, anyone who is culpable should pay the price...

Believe me, I support such measure 100%...but APC won't allow me because any comprehensive probe will bring its leaders to their knees. Check the dark period of our history and names attached to them and see their party...

Rawani:
Jonathan should be probed and punished, nothing will happen, the heavens will not fall. How can we be serious about turning around our travails as a country if we still cannot be objective enough to do what is right without sentiments. The argument that he should be left alone as past leaders were not probed, lacks all validity because;

1. No one restrained him from doing so, his failure to do so effectively underlines his incompetence;

2. Show me a past Nigerian leader that left the coffers empty AND plunged us in a N13 Trillion debt.

This one already convicted Jonathan even before any probe so much for smart Nigerians...

Also, didn't know Nigeria hasn't been owing and no debts where left by past leaders...I imagine the level of education and mental capacity of most of you guys here...smh

PassingShot:
The fact is that for any nation to move in the right direction and progress toward real development, each and every government must be held accountable for her actions and inactions. Only when people realize that they will be called to answer for their deeds and misdeeds would they behave reasonably.

I know many TANoids will argue that for Buhari to probe GEJ or any of his ministers, he must first probe IBB, OBJ and many before GEJ. What they are not mindful of is the fact that President Buhari cannot probe all but he is morally obliged to look into actions of his immediate predecessors and not all before him.

If he does this, Nigeria will have taken a very giant step in moving towards accountability.

I support a COMPREHENSIVE probe of Jonathan administration from 2010-2015...Throw the cards open and let the world judge...ALL offenders should rot in jail...

Believe me, all the people you wish to see in jail may most likely come out unscathed while most APC drivers and consultants will be culpable...Remember, Jonathan dared buhari to probe that he isn't afraid of probe...

mohisi:
Gen Buhari discovered this great woman

Big lie...stop deceiving people...

Jesusloveyou:
what is this one saying, maybe u are referring to dumbo op.

how are u?...have you registered for the almajiri education?

Jklue007:
I refuse to be deceived, Okonjor Iweala is responsible for the mismanagement of the foreign reserve, or are you telling me the governors forum don't know what they are saying before dropping this weighty allegations?? U sef think am

It's a choice in life to choose what to believe... Truth or falsehood?... Right or Wrong?...its all by choice...Choosing to call me a thief though false is your choice and can never make me one...So also in this regard here...thanks

4Play:
You made a specific claim that she shared the excess revenues against advice but that claim is misleading and disingenous because it conveys the impression that she wanted the account depleted. No one railed repeatedly against depleting the account more than she did so the depletion of the account, contrary to her advice, hardly counts against her. She didn't decide to deplete the account, she was compelled to as you cannot maintain the account without the support of the Governors and the President. If we had done what she advocated, we won't be in this position.

Can you just ignore this socialmediaman as he keeps typing LONG uninformed posts all over this forum...

See his skewed submission on NNPC...
Then to NOI depleting ECA...
To events in custom & NPA...
and so many others...
I get irritated seeing people misleading others in the name of trying to claim intelligent and informed folks...

NOI isn't perfect but exhibited some great ingenuity while working with some treacherous beings like SLS; whose term as CBN governor would go down in history as the most rancorous worldwide... I am yet to see another CBN governor worldwide in the news always like him both for economic and none economic reasons...

Our IPPIS and some other initiatives are to her credit...After her term comes other opportunities for her...For I am sure, she would continue being an international player while her detractors who are mainly local champions continue with throwing muds locally...

socialmediaman; is it that you're this dumb or you choose to use your backside to reason...

As usual, you wrote a thesis of simply myopic and uninformed submission... Nigeria is really doomed with brains like yours littering everywhere... And unfortunately, you aren't ashamed of these senseless posts that show how uninformed you're...

The delight of this festive period is going to be lost to workers in about 27
states of the federation, but more especially those in Benue, Ondo, Osun, and
Oyo State Civil Service, as they celebrate in groans and tears over unpaid
salaries of several months by the state government.
While others in other organizations go home smiling with bags of rice and other
take home allowance, this festive period seems bleak and faded for workers in
these three states as the government of the state has ignored them all.
Workers in Ondo state embarked on strike on Thursday over the unpaid salary
of three months by the state government and threatened to shut down
Mimiko’s Government.
Same is said in Osun State where workers rely largely on salaries; there is also
a pause in commercial activities in the State because of non-payment of civil
servants’ salaries for months in the state.
In Ogun State where the civil service workers have been unpaid for months,
there have been lamentations and demands that their salaries should be paid
regularly rather than the staggered mode of payments which is causing them
pain during this festive period.
Meanwhile, in Oyo state, where the government also owes workers of the state,
the state Secretary Chief Michael Koleso escaped by whiskers when protesting
angry civil servants almost mobbed him on Monday over their overdue unpaid
salaries. It always reported that daughters of the state Governor Ajimobi have
been involved in ostentatious display of wealth by buying expensive dresses,
with each of them worth a whooping sum of N3million, for a British Fashion
Award while state workers languish in lack and penury.




Bleak Christmas for Civil Servants …Ondo,
Oyo, Osun, Others, Owe Several Month
Salaries

http://www.thecapital.ng/index.php/lastest-news/1405-bleak-christmas-for-civil-servants-ondo-oyo-osun-others-owe-several-month-salaries

https://www.nairaland.com/2332256/situation-osun-statef
come let's talk osun state under Aregbesola... HzRF

A senior Civil Servant identified as Ojo Owolabi attempted to commit suicide
in Obokun Local Government Area of the State by drinking insecticide.
Owolabi was said to have attempted suicide because of his inability to cater
for his family as civil servants in the State are being owed six months salary.
The incident which occurred at Owolabi’s residence last Saturday in Obokun
Local Government Area of the State threw residents into a state of confusion.
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It was gathered from a source closed to Owolabi that he wanted to take his
life because he got frustrated over his inability to cater for his family.
The source affirmed, “Baba Ibeji, Owolabi, drank herbicide. He was frustrated
because he has been unable to feed himself and other members of his family.
“You are aware that the state government has not paid workers for some
months now. I think he just lost hope and decided to take his life by drinking
Gramoxone.
Diezani reportedly jets out with Buhari to London
DAILY POST learnt that Owolabi’s wife and children have moved out of the
house after he could not meet their needs.


http://dailytimes.com.ng/ogun-osun-workers-protest-non-payment-of-salaries/

A senior Civil Servant identified as Ojo Owolabi attempted to commit suicide in Obokun Local Government Area of the State by drinking insecticide. Owolabi was said to have attempted suicide because of his inability to cater for his family as civil servants in the State are being owed six months salary. The incident which occurred at Owolabi’s residence last Saturday in Obokun Local Government Area of the State threw residents into a state of confusion. DOWNLOAD: Daily Post Android App It was gathered from a source closed to Owolabi that he wanted to take his life because he got frustrated over his inability to cater for his family. The source affirmed, “Baba Ibeji, Owolabi, drank herbicide. He was frustrated because he has been unable to feed himself and other members of his family. “You are aware that the state government has not paid workers for some months now. I think he just lost hope and decided to take his life by drinking Gramoxone. Diezani reportedly jets out with Buhari to London DAILY POST learnt that Owolabi’s wife and children have moved out of the house after he could not meet their needs.

Gbawe:
I hope the usual sycophants of GEJ and the PDP on Nairaland , as well as those generally uninformed of aregbesola's effort, will read and comprehend what is written below. Folks who work with fact and have personal integrity will agree that the attack on Aregbesola is simply motivated by mischief and bigotry. He will be one of the best Governors in Nigeria. His record of achievement is there for all to see even if mischief makers , supporting a historically mediocre President , want to pretend otherwise. In the case of Beaf, he is simply a Yoruba wannabe who follows and worship Yoruba people and the SW like a lost dog with no home of its own.


http://www.osundefender.org/?p=20490

You're one bloody pathetic soul, hypocrite, and bigot that doesn't know when and where to draw the line...

http://www.punchng.com/news/osun-workers-protest-non-payment-of-five-months-salaries/

Most Nigerians are poor & wretched not simply because of the system; but because they channel ALL their energy into the wrong places consciously or unconsciously...How can people grow with this burden of hatred, envy, and jealousy in & on them?...You can NEVER overtake whomever you carry such burden for because they will keep weighing you down... Empty pockets never held anyone back. Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that. –Norman Vincent Peale

southniyikaye:
maybe they think buhari is Jonathan or obasanjo, it's high time they feel the full force of the government... no idiots or some set of nuisance can be greater than a sitting president or government.... those who have ears?

Sir, are you the incoming NSA?

southniyikaye:
use ur brain,it's there for usage

Yes Sir...thanks Sir...